The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

[RayW]

I still seem to have mixed results here from the UK. I use Private Internet Access's VPN anyway and the Network will work on my iPad but not on my PC or PS3. On the PC I either get the 'TV-PG' clip play and then it just loads nothing or I don't even get that; I just get a blank space where the video should be.

[Slim Jim]

Runs perfectly for me now, even skipping backwards and forwards when watching. And I just read (it cited PWInsider, for those that know about credibility, I don't follow the dirtsheets closely enough to know) that once the trial period is over, they'll be adding a lot more content (but not EVERY Raw and Smackdown). That's completely fine with me, as I've got a lot to keep myself entertained with for the next few weeks even without that.

[RayW]

Well I now have it fully working on my iPad and on IE. It still won't work on Chrome for some reason and not on my PS3 either. It'd be nice if they made an official XBMC addon, but since the platform isn't that mainstream, I don't see it happening.

[Jaysin]

Trying to remember a match. I'm pretty sure it was Dean Malenko and Rey Misterio Jr. but there's a spot where one worker goes to power bomb the other from standing on the top rope and the other worker does a snap frankensteiner in mid move.

[ThatChizzle]

<p>That move happened by Rey Misterio Jr. and Psicosis, once in ECW, then again on WCW the night Hulk Hogan joined Hall and Nash to form the nWo, if I remember correctly.</p><p> </p><p>

WCW Bash at the Beach 1996, the finish was Psicosis trying a Splash Mountian into a huracanrana by Rey, heh if thats the one you're remebering. Was almost the same exact match in ECW.</p>

[Jaysin]

Sadly, that wasn't it. The spot was a power bomb, not a splash mountain.

[DaMegaFish]

<p>So I did finally get to watch the rest of ArRival. Thought it was a great introduction show to anyone wonder what NXT is really about (such as myself!)</p><p> </p><p>

Also, Bo Dallas gets a lot of beatings for his mic work, but from what I saw in the promo package before his match, I loved it! I love the oblivious heel act too, all around good stuff.</p>

[milamber]

<p><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">NXT Arrival Review:</span></strong></p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Zayn vs Cesaro</strong> - Awesome MOTY contender. Best match ever in NXT history. I would have marked out for a Zayn win but having the more experienced (in WWE terms) Cesaro win made sense, especially with his recent push. The show of respect was a perfect ending to the feud.</p><p>

<strong>Parker vs Mojo</strong> - Cool-down match. Mojo's finisher sucks.</p><p>

<strong>The Ascension vs Too Cool (NXT Tag Titles)</strong> - OK match. I like the new Ascension theme song. Conner O'Brian is good enough to go solo.</p><p>

<strong>Emma vs Paige (NXT Womens Championship)</strong> - Nice intro from Stephanie. Great match. Powerbomb ("Better than Batista" chants) and Scorpion Crosslock! I was hoping Emma would win but since she's on the main shows she doesn't really need the belt. The Anti-Diva should never wear that much makeup.</p><p>

<strong>Woods vs Breeze</strong> - Should have been a short triple threat match even if the point was only to put over Rusev. Woods' selling made the Accolade submission look devestating.</p><p>

<strong>Neville vs Dallas (NXT Championship Ladder Match)</strong> - The hype videos were top quality. Neville's new theme song is generic. Good match with smart ladder spots. Both guys rose to the occasion. I marked out for Neville winning. He's my 2nd favorite NXT exclusive star after Zayn. Bo still needs a submission move and a strong finisher before he's ready for the main roster.</p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Verdict:</span></strong> Impressive first PPV for NXT. The 3 main matches delivered. The wrestlers all stepped up to the plate, the crowd were awesome the entire show and the announce team did a brilliant job (especially Regal).</p><p> </p><p>

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[bigtplaystew]

I thought Arrival was a fantastic show. Great crowd. Lots of fun matches.

[Jaysin]

I got really excited when I thought it was going to be Tyler Breeze vs Xavier Woods. That would have been so fun. I do like Rusev though, I just wish that wouldn't have been the segment he interrupted. It should have been during CJ Parker vs Mojo Rawley or whatever his name is. They're awful and devoid of entertainment value. It would have been fun watching them get obliterated.

[Rickymex]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> <strong>Emma vs Paige (NXT Womens Championship)</strong> - Nice intro from Stephanie. Great match. Powerbomb ("Better than Batista" chants) and Scorpion Crosslock! I was hoping Emma would win but since she's on the main shows she doesn't really need the belt. <strong>The Anti-Diva should never wear that much makeup.</strong></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That really looked weird. It just looked caked on and made Paige face look weird. It reminded me of AJ Lee in MITB 2012</p><p> </p><p> <span>http://i.imgur.com/M378D.jpg</span></p>

[Jaysin]

Turns out the spot/match I was trying to remember was Juventud vs Rey from an episode of WCW Pro. I was watching the Rey Misterio Jr dvd and that match was on there. Good thing I decided to watch it or it would have driven me crazy

[dvdWarrior]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jbergey_2005" data-cite="jbergey_2005" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>They have a few RAWs from the first season 93', a couple from the attitude era, and 4-5 from December 2013 until Jan 14.<p> </p><p> I didnt see any SMEs. They have most of the PPVs in the history of WWE, WCW, and ECW.</p><p> </p><p> They will start adding Nitro's very soon Id imagine. On the VOD they had with cable companies they always had numerous Raws/Nitros available to watch from the Attitude Era at any given time.</p><p> </p><p> My speculation is they want to show content on the live stream channel before adding it to the vault so they have fresh stuff for people to watch. I think the vault will be much more impressive in 3-4 months.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'd figured the Monday night Wars thing would be the Raw-Nitro combinationg platter they used to serve on WWE COD, but maybe not. I have to admit, I'd LOVE to have all the Raws, Nitros and everything, (even the WWE Prime Time Wrestling and WCW Saturday Night shows) in there, but the PPVs will do pretty well for now. I was really hoping that the 1988 Jim Crockett Sr. Memorial Cup show would be in there somewhere - there was a little 8 year old dvdWarrior in attendance for that one.</p><p> </p><p> I have to admit it, though, ll the WCW I can get out of this. Their Cruiserweight Division is probably still my favorite thing going in wrestling.</p><p> </p><p> I definitely hope NXT Arrival will still be available when I finally get hooked up though, (my assumption is that the new stuff hangs around, could be wrong I guess). I really want very much to see that, and I've been pretty good at avoiding spoilers lately.</p>

[Teh_Showtime]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Conner O'Brian is good enough to go solo.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Really? He's godawful and has been for years. Ascension in various forms have been squashing people since 2012 and he hasn't gotten better since. He's added a ton of muscle but that's it. The Ascension are consistently the worst part of NXT and he's a huge part of it considering that Victor was good on his own and Kenneth Cameron before being fired was fantastic solo.</p><p> </p><p> And Arrival was added to VOD about 2 hours after it finished as well.</p>

[Russelrules44]

<p>Guys, as much I hate to say this.......</p><p> </p><p>

WWE is screwed this WrestleMania, after years of fans not getting what they want, it's finally unsettling, as much as people don't like the sound of it.</p><p> </p><p>

If Daniel Bryan doesn't make it to WrestleMania......It could mean the end of WWE and the Universe as we know it...........</p><p> </p><p>

Triple H......You can go f**k yourself, you talent burying bastard. (Bring back Shane McMahon and let him take over....or better yet, bring Punk back and have him go all out on Triple H.)</p>

[RKOwnage]

<p>Arrival was the first full NXT show I've watched...solid stuff. I thought the Zayn/Cesaro 2 out of 3 falls match was better but this one was fantastic as well.</p><p> </p><p>

I also love Bo Dallas.</p>

[guyver3]

Just saw that royal rumble 2014 is up on the network loving the Wyatt Bryan match

[dpoolez]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Russelrules44" data-cite="Russelrules44" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Guys, as much I hate to say this.......<p> </p><p> WWE is screwed this WrestleMania, after years of fans not getting what they want, it's finally unsettling, as much as people don't like the sound of it.</p><p> </p><p> If Daniel Bryan doesn't make it to WrestleMania......It could mean the end of WWE and the Universe as we know it...........</p><p> </p><p> Triple H......You can go f**k yourself, you talent burying bastard. (Bring back Shane McMahon and let him take over....or better yet, bring Punk back and have him go all out on Triple H.)</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> WWE arent that oblivious to Daniel Bryan's momentum. I expect it to be Bryan vs Triple H with Bryan going over.</p><p> </p><p> With Bryan/HHH, Taker/Lesnar, Cena/Wyatt, Batista/Orton, none of those matches should suck and unlike WM29 those matches are either new or havent been done in at least 5 years. WM29 will probably have the higher buyrate especially with the WWE network cutting into WMXXX buys but XXX may end up being better than 29.</p><p> </p><p> Now if Bryan doesnt go over Triple H, then we all can and should call BS on the WWE.</p>

[Kovic]

<p>SPOILER on white! </p><p> </p><p>

<span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Batista turned heel on Smackdown, it seems that someone will be put in to that match or they are going to have a real heel versus heel match-up.</span></p><p> </p><p>

SPOILER END!</p>

[milamber]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="dpoolez" data-cite="dpoolez" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>WWE arent that oblivious to Daniel Bryan's momentum. I expect it to be Bryan vs Triple H with Bryan going over.<p> </p><p> With Bryan/HHH, Taker/Lesnar, Cena/Wyatt, Batista/Orton, none of those matches should suck and unlike WM29 those matches are either new or havent been done in at least 5 years. WM29 will probably have the higher buyrate especially with the WWE network cutting into WMXXX buys but XXX may end up being better than 29.</p><p> </p><p> Now if Bryan doesnt go over Triple H, then we all can and should call BS on the WWE.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> They have laid some groundwork for a possible Reigns vs HHH match if they decide to put Bryan in the Title match instead. So long as Batista pins Orton not Bryan and the match isn't overbooked it could make for a good main event.</p>

[milamber]

<p><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Smackdown Review:</span></strong></p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Real Americans vs Big E & Henry</strong> - Good match. Miscommunication between Cesaro and Swagger but they still won. Cesaro deadlifted Big E from the apron and delivered the Gotch Neutralizer to Henry. I like the way they are slowly breaking this team up, just like with the Shield. Do it too quickly like with Titus and Young and nobody cares.</p><p>

<strong>Batista</strong> - Finally a good promo. Full heel mode: running down the fans, Hogan, the Rock and Bryan. Ziggler came out and called him a dinosaur. Batista agreed to match and Ziggler dropkicked him.</p><p>

<strong>Sheamus vs Del Rio</strong> - Solid match while it lasted. Christian joined the announce booth mid-match then attacked Sheamus when Del Rio was about to tap to the Cloverleaf.</p><p>

<strong>Ziggler vs Batista</strong> - Solid match if a little slow-paced. Ziggler complained on Twitter about "Let's go Ziggler" chants being edited out.</p><p>

<strong>Wyatt Family vs The Shield</strong> - Bray killed it with one of his best live promos. HHH stopped them and set a match for Raw. The Shield refused to back down and there was a quick scuffle. Line of the night from Bray: "Run along, boys. You heard your daddy."</p><p>

<strong>AJ vs Cameron (Divas Title)</strong> - No botches so it was watchable. Cameron's new gimmick is getting angry and screaming like a banshee <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/confused.png.d4a8e6b6eab0c67698b911fb041c0ed1.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p>

<strong>Bryan & The Usos vs NAO & Kane</strong> - Good match. Cole finally mentioned JBL calling him Maggle <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p>

</p><p><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">

Verdict:</span></strong> Weakest Smackdown in over a month but still decent.</p>

[Target Practice]

<p>POTENTIAL RAW SPOILER IN WHITE BELOW:</p><p> </p><p>

<span style="color:#FFFFFF;">So yeah, looks like just about every site out there is running a seemingly pretty solid report that Punk's going to be at Raw tomorrow night.</span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">

That's REALLY going to make the road to Wrestlemania interesting, particularly as it now looks like they're going to pair off Bryan and Trips (not that they're particularly far along that road - it would be pretty easy to gloss over it).</span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">

Also, (assuming it's true!) I'm glad he's back, not just because he's good in the ring and on the mic, but also because I really wouldn't have wanted to see that Chicago crowd just crap all over the whole show for three straight hours. That Green Bay crowd was bad enough.</span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">

</span></p><p> </p><p>

/SPOILER</p>

[djthefunkchris]

Don't really think that needs a spoiler... Like (forgive me for forgetting your name) that poster kept telling everyone, it was a work... and it seems specifically for IWC fans.

[delv213]

<p>It definitely wasn't a work and I guarantee nobody knew about Punk's status until they pulled the trigger on Batista's heel turn. All I expect now is a Batista vs Punk vs Orton match for Mania setup when Punk comes out tomorrow night and cuts a worked shoot saying that he's only back because Vince came crawling to him on his knees to save Orton and Batista from ruining Wrestlemania. With the long suspected Vince McMahon vs Triple H/Stephanie feud going around for a long time, I wouldn't be surprised if this happened tomorrow.</p><p> </p><p>

Then at the event you can have Bryan go over Triple H and have Triple H turn on Orton later in the show aligning with Batista. Then finally Triple H can have some real heat to leach off of and he can help build up any midcard talent that joins The Authority.</p>

[RayW]

<p>So, I was reading on another forum people complaining that Daniel Bryan is still being held down by the WWE. I've never really commented on this, and since that forum is full of nonsensical fanboys who like to flame war, I thought I'd share my views here instead.</p><p> </p><p>

It seems that the WWE is caught between a rock and a hard place, because no matter what they do with Daniel Bryan, it isn't good enough. There's only one thing, apparently, that would keep the fans happy, and that is Bryan winning the World Title at WrestleMania. This, I think should be fairly obvious, isn't going to happen. Bryan is pretty much set to face Triple H on the big stage, and more than most likely will go over. However, still fans seem to think that the guy is being held down by creative, which is a completely insane view point to have. Daniel Bryan's journey is one of a few major storylines in the company right now, he get's as much screen time as John Cena, Randy Orton and Batista, and is constantly being featured in their media (website, etc.). Not to mention that over the last twelve months Daniel Bryan has featured in six main event's on PPV. Ok, so two of them PPV's were the Elimination Chamber and Money In The Bank matches, but he was still in the final matches on them cards. That puts him level with Cena and two behind Randy Orton (including their title match at Royal Rumble, if we remove that then he is one ahead of Cena and one behind Orton). The closest anyone comes to that figure are Shemus and Christian, both with two each, but both matches were the Elimination Chamber and Money In The Bank matches.</p><p> </p><p>

This view that the WWE hate's its audience is just bizarre to me. Daniel Bryan has been heavily featured for a year, he is up there with the WWE Champion and John Cena. He is in a storyline where the people in charge don't want him to succeed, and they are trying their best to keep him down, yet Daniel Bryan always seems to come out on top, only to be screwed over. Yeah, it's a storyline.</p><p> </p><p>

It just has me bemused that people that consider themselves 'smart' to the business are getting so bent out of shape over a storyline which they genuinely believe is true. They genuinely believe that Triple H and the McMahon's hate him and don't want him anywhere near the main event. Despite being in six of twelve PPV main events. Despite being in one of the hottest storylines of the past year. Oh my beloved wrestling fans, aren't we a fickle bunch?</p>