The Swanton825 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Completely off-topic, but I found out today that one of the aerobics instructors at my gym has acting classes with Edge. I'm still not sure what to do with this information, but I definitely had to contain my squee at finding that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I liked RAW (a lot actually; only the ending was kinda retarded), but there's things I don't get: - How they use Wade Barrett. - How Miz vs Mizdow isn't a match at Mania: sure, it could be a 'moment', but they'd be crazy in the head to just leave them out. And the Rhodes Brothers should at least have a moment somewhere. I get that the match is not on Mania, but there should be some reference, right? Here's wondering if Lana will somehow backstab Rusev at Mania. If would be awesome if she somehow attained American citizenship now. I don't know if she has been trained for in-ring action, but that'd be the ideal gimmick-shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitarzu Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 "It's mine!" "No, it's mine!" Two kids are bickering for a toy. http://i.imgur.com/5lwdFAX.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Best of Raw: Sting/Steph/HHH. LED boards on the ring apron like NXT! IC tag match. Bill Simmons breaking kayfabe. Good long divas match. Axel/Snoop/Hogan. Rusev destroying Cena. Wyatt promo. Tyson/Nattie Burger King commercial. Bryan vs Ziggler and the following carnage. Bork, Heyman & Reigns (until they cold cut instead of letting them brawl). http://i.imgur.com/KqHPqGv.gifhttp://boards.420chan.org/wooo/src/1427178497126.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Edwards Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Brock was just on Sports Center and said he just signed a new Contract with WWE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 I liked RAW (a lot actually; only the ending was kinda retarded), but there's things I don't get: - How they use Wade Barrett. - How Miz vs Mizdow isn't a match at Mania: sure, it could be a 'moment', but they'd be crazy in the head to just leave them out. And the Rhodes Brothers should at least have a moment somewhere. I get that the match is not on Mania, but there should be some reference, right? Here's wondering if Lana will somehow backstab Rusev at Mania. If would be awesome if she somehow attained American citizenship now. I don't know if she has been trained for in-ring action, but that'd be the ideal gimmick-shift. Treating BNB like crap was just creative's stupid way of kicking off this crazy but entertaining IC title build. The tag titles have been relegated to the pre-show so they can fit in a musical performance at Mania. Miz & Mizdow are doing their thing at the Battle Royale and probably have a quick blow-off match at Extreme Rules. Goldust/Stardust has been canned because the awful crowd at Fastlane crapped on their match and Vince panicked. I'd like to Goldust interfere in the IC ladder match but I'm not holding my breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Treating BNB like crap was just creative's stupid way of kicking off this crazy but entertaining IC title build. The tag titles have been relegated to the pre-show so they can fit in a musical performance at Mania. Miz & Mizdow are doing their thing at the Battle Royale and probably have a quick blow-off match at Extreme Rules. Goldust/Stardust has been canned because the awful crowd at Fastlane crapped on their match and Vince panicked. I'd like to Goldust interfere in the IC ladder match but I'm not holding my breath. The awful crowd at Fastlane I remember being pretty loud for the two matches that were actually promoted decently It was a bad feud so nobody cared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 The awful crowd at Fastlane I remember being pretty loud for the two matches that were actually promoted decently It was a bad feud so nobody cared Goldust and Cody are both great promos and workers. The stagnant pace of the WWE kills almost any momentum a midcard worker gets and turns hot storylines into the artic. The Rhodes Boys during their feud with The Shield were hot as hell. Goldust was the beloved veteran who was proving that age means shit, Cody was the good looking young superstar who the crowd had seen grow for years, and they had Dusty their HoF father. They beat the The Shield and won the tag titles as the crowd erupted. Then they lost to the transitional NAO, lost the the new champions the Usos over and over, kept losing until Cody turned into Stardust, won a few random matches, wrestled the Usos twice a week on TV and losing, then months and months passed with them losing against whatever new tag contender there was, random turn, one week build to match, dead match with botched finish, then nothing. Basically WWE's midcard Face Champion - Beat all opponents weekly then beat them again on PPV. Heel Champion - Lose clean weekly, win on PPV Face contender - Beat heel champions 10 times in a row then lose at PPV. Heel Contender - Lose every match then lose on PPV. Not Champion or Contender - Lose every match to whoever we are pushing because you're a meaningless jobber who's past accomplishments and character arcs mean nothing this PPV cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I never said it was their fault, because I've been a Cody fan since his very first raw match so I obviously know about the frustrations with the WWE midcard. I just hate when people criticize the crowd and call crowds bad because they dont react to terribly written storylines or matches that you have no reason to care for, especially when they are never called bad crowds that same night when they are into matches with a little bit of effort put in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RKOwnage Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I'm trying not to get my hopes up, but Brock re-signing has me interested in the main event now. Still hoping for a Seth cash-in though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpoolez Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I never said it was their fault, because I've been a Cody fan since his very first raw match so I obviously know about the frustrations with the WWE midcard. I just hate when people criticize the crowd and call crowds bad because they dont react to terribly written storylines or matches that you have no reason to care for, especially when they are never called bad crowds that same night when they are into matches with a little bit of effort put in them. Its true that the fans shouldnt give a crap about terribly written feuds. That being said, the crowd was terrible for the entire night. They responded well to the main events but even they werent as loud as they wouldve been in a more energetic crowd in another city imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdWarrior Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Brock was just on Sports Center and said he just signed a new Contract with WWE I didn't see that, but it's good to hear about. For some reason, these past couple of days, I've just had this... feeling... that Brock was gonna win at 'Mania. I'm not rooting either way, at the moment, just had that feeling is all. If this information is true, it might make it that much more likely. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Edwards Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 with Brock resign i could still see him losing as Vince just seems to want to push Reigns Then at the next PPV would be the rematch where Seth cashes in if Vince feels Reigns isn't working out like he hoped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mootinie Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Is it reasonable to assume that WWE knew all along he would re-sign? They've made it official today, sure, but do you put Cena and Bryan in secondary title matches when you're unsure about the long term status of your primary champion? It seems odd that they were putting all their eggs in the Roman Reigns basket, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Is it reasonable to assume that WWE knew all along he would re-sign? They've made it official today, sure, but do you put Cena and Bryan in secondary title matches when you're unsure about the long term status of your primary champion? It seems odd that they were putting all their eggs in the Roman Reigns basket, no? You absolutely do because you can't tell if Roman is going to pan out, and having them anchor the other titles gives him more time to get running because they have those two with belts if he's not up to snuff initially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I never said it was their fault, because I've been a Cody fan since his very first raw match so I obviously know about the frustrations with the WWE midcard. I just hate when people criticize the crowd and call crowds bad because they dont react to terribly written storylines or matches that you have no reason to care for, especially when they are never called bad crowds that same night when they are into matches with a little bit of effort put in them. Not criticizing you but agreeing with you in every way including blaming crowds for not being happy about shitty storylines. Does anyone here listen to Aubrey Sitterson and his Straight Shoot youtube channel? I've listened to a few but most of the time I end up hating how much he defends WWE no matter what. At least that's the way I see it. Just wanted to know if anybody else has their own opinion of him and his show. As a positive I do like the diversity of guest he gets on his shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I don't usually listen but I listened fairly recently when he had Adam Cole on since I believe it was his first interview of any kind since surgery and I was interested. He's definitely on the cautiously optimistic side with a lot of issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Sting vs Triple H is a dream match in the way that they are two icons/legends of their respective companies in the same era finally fighting each other for the first time, but not necessarily something everybody have been asking for. That being said, I would've loved to see Sting destroy the McMahon-Helmsley Faction back in 2000. See I do not think of HHH as being on the Icon level. He just married the right person, maybe that is me being a little bias but that is my opinion. I just see Sting at a higher level than HHH. Others might disagree but those are my feelings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakerNGN74 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Does anyone here listen to Aubrey Sitterson and his Straight Shoot youtube channel? I've listened to a few but most of the time I end up hating how much he defends WWE no matter what. At least that's the way I see it. Just wanted to know if anybody else has their own opinion of him and his show. I listen to his show weekly and yeah he is a WWE sympathizer but he has his reasons for it mainly that he used to work for them. So if he ever has a chance to go back to the company he probably doesn't want to damage that. He just seems to see the silver lining on everything and I actually find it refreshing even if he catches a lot of flack for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Sure, Trips got the right treatment 'by chance', but that treatment made him an icon. It's like Cena, who's an icon as well, by being pushed to the moon and back. But one could indeed argue that he never got to A*-level if you are quite selective in what that means (Austin, Rock, Hogan,...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderz Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I still don't know whether I buy the whole "Triple H only got what he got because he married Stephanie" argument. He was already WWF Champion (in his 3rd reign) and the top heel before they got together. He was one of the top stars of the Attitude Era (Not on the level of Austin/Rock/Undertaker but I'd say he was definitely #4). If Triple H didn't marry Stephanie; who steps up as the company's top heel in 2002/3? Who carries the Raw brand (and therefore the WWE) until Cena comes along? Yes he probably wouldn't be running NXT right now; or being all over TV as an authority figure. But I'm pretty certain he would still have had a HoF career. 13-time World Champion? maybe not - but probably not far off. If Triple H married Stephanie whilst he was at, say for example, the level of Test and then went on to become 13-time World Champion, booker of NXT, etc. then yeah - without a doubt, all due to who he married. But when he was already a top star pegged for a long term run at the top - then I think you're selling him short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 It's without question he'd be a HoF'er. But an icon? He was no icon in the making before he married Steph, though one can indeed argue he could've become one without marrying her given the right circumstances. (But we might want to define 'icon' first) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moe Hunter Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Does anyone here listen to Aubrey Sitterson God no. I don't care at all about what he, Cory Ledesma, or any of the other ex-THQ hacks have to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 If Triple H didn't marry Stephanie; who steps up as the company's top heel in 2002/3? Who carries the Raw brand (and therefore the WWE) until Cena comes along? Anyone else? Anyone at all? Hs was great in 2000. In '02-'03, he was awful and dragged the entire product down, at least IMO. I agree with your overall point though, which is that he would've been and in fact already was one of their top stars with or without Stephanie. Maybe there wouldn't be the degree of asskissing and retrospective self-promotion and inflation of his level of stardom, but you're probably right in saying he was the #4 guy of the Attitude Era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderz Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Anyone else? Anyone at all? Hs was great in 2000. In '02-'03, he was awful and dragged the entire product down, at least IMO. I agree with your overall point though, which is that he would've been and in fact already was one of their top stars with or without Stephanie. Maybe there wouldn't be the degree of asskissing and retrospective self-promotion and inflation of his level of stardom, but you're probably right in saying he was the #4 guy of the Attitude Era. There's no denying from me that he was far from good during that initial World title run. The point I was hoping to get across was that who else was on that level and could've taken that spot without the view of hindsight? Austin is gone, Rock is gone, Foley is gone. Taker in 2001 was awful - granted his heel turn at the turn of the year was great and he was rebuilding himself. They clearly had little faith in Jericho. Angle, Undertaker, Triple H - who else was at that level? Obviously Brock came along and got pushed to the moon. RVD and Booker with a bit more behind them could've got there - but they missed the best chance with both of them in 2001. I don't know, maybe I'm misremembering the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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