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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mr. Jones" data-cite="Mr. Jones" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Bruh.<p> </p><p> You're trusting Paul Joseph Watson with news?</p><p> </p><p> I mean, yeah: WWE loves the advertisers as much as the next business company, but Info Wars isn't exactly the most reputable source for information, no disrespect.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I wasn't "trusting" him with anything. Vince said this himself in his announcement. The infowars guy was just the first tweet I pulled referencing it.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I wasn't "trusting" him with anything. Vince said this himself in his announcement. The infowars guy was just the first tweet I pulled referencing it.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well, then just a reminder: The dude is not to be trusted with anything. You know better than that man.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mr. Jones" data-cite="Mr. Jones" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well, then just a reminder: The dude is not to be trusted with anything. You know better than that man.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> But isn't he one of your reporters Mr. Jones?<img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> I really enjoyed tonight's NXT show. The main event and the Adam Cole vs. Aleister Black matches were the two I enjoyed the most. Though I really did not think that any of the matches were bad.</p><p> </p><p> I hope if/when Aleister Black makes his way onto the main roster they push him. This guy comes across as a star to me.</p><p> </p><p> Also, after watching Adam Cole tonight I was reminded of HBK. Both look wise (not facially) and ability.</p><p> </p><p> i loved the way Shayna Baszler worked as a heel. She perfected this cocky way about her and it only enhanced her match with Ember. Ember, like Johnny in the main event, did a tremendous job of selling herself as the babyface who does not know the meaning of the word surrender.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>But isn't he one of your reporters Mr. Jones?<img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> I really enjoyed tonight's NXT show. The main event and the Adam Cole vs. Aleister Black matches were the two I enjoyed the most. Though I really did not think that any of the matches were bad.</p><p> </p><p> I hope if/when Aleister Black makes his way onto the main roster they push him. This guy comes across as a star to me.</p><p> </p><p> Also, after watching Adam Cole tonight I was reminded of HBK. Both look wise (not facially) and ability.</p><p> </p><p> i loved the way Shayna Baszler worked as a heel. She perfected this cocky way about her and it only enhanced her match with Ember. Ember, like Johnny in the main event, did a tremendous job of selling herself as the babyface who does not know the meaning of the word surrender.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Name's Jones...Jacob Jones.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="CQI13" data-cite="CQI13" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Have Shinsuke win the Rumble, and Roman win the Elimination Chamber to win his spot against Brock.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Better yet, have Strowman win the title and put all the top guys in the Elimination Chamber for the title. Fans happy at the Rumble and a mega main event for the next big PPV. Makes too much sense...</p>
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<p><strong>NXT Takeover:</strong></p><p> </p><p>

<strong>AOP vs Undisputed Era ©</strong> - Great match. Both teams have distinct styles that made for an interesting in-ring story. Smart finish. I hope AOP put over War Machine before they hit the main roster. <strong>**** 1/4</strong></p><p>

<strong>Dream vs Ohno</strong> - Good match but Dream struggled to hit at least 1 signature move on the bigger Ohno. Dream's entrance and gear were dope. <strong>*** 3/4</strong></p><p>

<strong>Shayna vs Ember ©</strong> - Solid match. They worked the crowd well with the fake near-stoppage. The final sequence (although a went a bit long) was so tense I marked out for Ember winning. Playing up Shayna's lack of wrestling experience was smart. I was impressed by Ember's selling. <strong>*** 1/2</strong></p><p>

<strong>Black vs Cole</strong> - Great Extreme Rules match. No technical masterclass but these guys damn near killed themselves. Adam Cole's best match by far. <strong>**** 1/2</strong></p><p>

<strong>Gargano vs Almas ©</strong> - Insanely awesome match. My heart was pounding fast for the last 15 minutes. I'm glad they saved Ciampa for after the match as it would have been a disservice to Almas. Champions should be protected and the NXT bookers do it without making the challengers look weak. The bar has been set early this year. <strong>*****</strong></p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Verdict:</strong> The matches were a strong mix of wrestling, character work and storytelling. The main event was an easy contender for MOTY. The crowd were hot as usual. Shame Nigel was sick but Percy was (dare I say) more tolerable than usual.</p>

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Kyle O’Reilly needs to go the hell away. I don’t understand what anyone sees in this goofy looking stooge.

 


There is no world where he should have been dominating AoP in MMA style grappling, especially right after they talked about Akham having an MMA background. Terrible story telling.

 


I would have preferred seeing Fish in a handicap match.

 


Fire O’Reilly and Adam Cole and replace them with Eddie Edwards and Roderick Strong.

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Kyle O’Reilly needs to go the hell away. I don’t understand what anyone sees in this goofy looking stooge.

 

There is no world where he should have been dominating AoP in MMA style grappling, especially right after they talked about Akham having an MMA background. Terrible story telling.

 

I would have preferred seeing Fish in a handicap match.

 

Fire O’Reilly and Adam Cole and replace them with Eddie Edwards and Roderick Strong.

 

O'Reilly to me seems like the typical indie goober (looks-wise). Fish and even Cole look legit. But as the third wheel in the group I have no problem with him.

 

I do wish heels in NXT were more consistent at getting heat (see The Rock's first promo back after he left the first time. Everybody was cheering him despite the content until he made sure they boo'd him). Cole's"Bay-bay" line would ve so much better if he was antagonizing the fans than when they sing along with him.

 

Not sure about Edwards, but Roderick - as good as he is in the ring - should be kept away from the microphone.

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<p>I don't know why you guys are so concerned about his looks. Sure, he's no supermodel, but he doesn't need to be. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Fire O’Reilly and Adam Cole and replace them with Eddie Edwards and Roderick Strong.</div></blockquote><p> Is that a joke? <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p>
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No, it’s not a joke joke.

 


O’reilly has a terrible look and is the epitome of a vanilla midget. A thousand workers have the same style with a better look and a better grasp of ring psychology. There’s literally nothing that Kyle has that makes him better than anyone else other than than roped in with Bobby Fish. Fish “gets it”. He does the little things like making sure he’s holding the tag rope before getting tagged in.

 


Cole on the other hand doesn’t even really have a gimmick beyond stealing “Baybay” from Jericho who always yelled it. Plus he looks like a Shawn Michaels Funko Pop.

 


Different folks for different stokes obviously, but I can’t stand O’reilly and Cole was one of Indy darlings I cared least about.

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<p>I haven't turned on any WWE show since Jinder Mahal first became #1 contender, but I reactivated my subscription on an impulse because I've always loved the Rumble match. I'm also curious to see how the women's match goes, though I'm cringing at the idea of an hourlong match with Stephanie McMahon commentary. Even bad Rumble matches are usually fun to watch, so I figure I'll get my $10 worth tonight.</p><p> </p><p>

I'm LOLing at the people (not here but elsewhere) speculating that the ending of the most recent NJPW show means Kenny Omega might be a surprise entrant tonight. Ignoring the fact that he just signed an extension with NJPW like two weeks ago, it'd be literally impossible for him to fly from Sapporo to Philadelphia in time. <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

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Jaysin, the reason I asked is because you suggested to change Cole and O'Reilly with Eddie and Roderick. I don't know how you can say bad things about one of them without saying the same about all of them. For example you call O'Reilly a vanilla midget. Couldn't you say the same about Eddie Edwards or Roddy Strong? Same height, similar weaknesses. They are all very alike, they come from the same school of thought.

 


You say Cole doesn't have a gimmick... but again, what about Strong and Edwards? What gimmicks do they have? If you think about it, just a bunch of guys actually have one.

 


Anyway, I am just being curious. Although I myself am not a fan of any of them, I can respect their in-ring ability and try to treat them fairly.

 

 

 

 

 


What a Rumble though!

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Final Countdown" data-cite="The Final Countdown" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Is Rusev normally as over as he was tonight?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> He has started getting over recently with his whole 'Rusev Day' thing. The fans really seem to be getting behind him.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="angeldelayette" data-cite="angeldelayette" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>He has started getting over recently with his whole 'Rusev Day' thing. The fans really seem to be getting behind him.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think I'm the only one, but I honestly preferred his short-lived "Rusev number 1" shtick and Aiden English just seems like a completely pointless addition.</p><p> </p><p> Can't argue with what gets over, though</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Final Countdown" data-cite="The Final Countdown" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>...Do they really need to explain the rules for the Rumble match? WE JUST WATCHED ONE.<p> </p><p> I'm watching this match with Japanese commentary. I don't understand anything they're saying, but it's still better than Stephanie on commentary for an hour.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You are currently listening to Smackdown's! NUMBER ONE ANNOUNCER!</p><p> </p><p> <span>http://i.imgur.com/ATT8mEa.jpg</span></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Ok just seen the twitter spoiler......I'm about to cough up $10 just to watch it.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> What spoiler?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jack ryder" data-cite="jack ryder" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What spoiler?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The winner of the Men's Rumble</p>
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