milamber Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt88/milamber/Ay21bI9CUAEvEeZjpglarge_zpsfc7eb431.jpg:originalhttp://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt88/milamber/fandango_1_zpsd92ec7cf.gif:originalhttp://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt88/milamber/fandango_2_zps39f00b12.gif:originalhttp://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt88/milamber/tumblr_mkyvghTcYN1r7j5ugo1_500_zps44cd414e.jpg:original Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 I'm saying it now, before it's too late, the next WM needs to have... The Rock vs. Undertaker Taker is this close to complete retirement, and it's a matter of time until The Rock is happier staying in Hollywood full time again. While they're both still involved with the WWE, they need to start getting them ready for it next year. It may not be the most technically brilliant match, but my gods, imagine the heat. Can "The Great One" also become "The First One"? The fact they didn't do it this year worries me it may never happen, but obviously Cena/Rock was the longterm plan, and I'm sure Punk enjoyed the honor of being the next of Taker's victims. Not sure they want to turn Rock heel. He's the only babyface on Cena's level. Plus, Taker would have to carry him, which is a bad idea. They could go with Lesnar but I'm not sure Taker could take the punishment like HHH can. I'd be happy with Punk round 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comradebot Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Not sure they want to turn Rock heel. He's the only babyface on Cena's level. Plus, Taker would have to carry him, which is a bad idea. They could go with Lesnar but I'm not sure Taker could take the punishment like HHH can. I'd be happy with Punk round 2. I don't think you need face vs. heel for the streak at this point. Face vs. face with the streak on the line is enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Cowboy Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 I can't help to replay Zigglers win.. Just look at that man in that moment. That's years of love for wrestling right there, the childhood dreams coming true.. Second World title reign, I don't think he even counts the first one (that was awarded to him by Vickie after DQ'ng Edge by using the spear) since he lost to Edge in the same night and thus had zero defences of the belt. Wouldn't it be good to be in your shoes Ziggler. Post-RAW Cena promo / more crowd action. Love it! Zigglers cash in live Thanks for these - love that train ride!! Reminds me of the 90s coming back from Grateful Dead shows at Madison Square Garden with everyone singing Casey Jones or Big Railroad Blues at the top of their lungs!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20LEgend Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Ziggler cashing in on Raw was much better than it would've been at WrestleMania, he took his own moment and made himself the talking point of that show, rather than getting lost in the hype surrounding everything at Mania - he waits until the big names have done their thing and then the next night where there's no Rock/Triple H/Lesnar/Punk he takes his moment in the spotlight that he craves so much. It's the same where I've seen people wanting heel turns on the PPV - people who've bought the pay-per-view have bought it for the matches and the spectacle, but it's the TV show after where you've got keep people interest and get them to buy the next pay-per-views and it was a great show. I enjoyed Mania though, so maybe people who didn't wanted more excitment, but I went in it knowing what to expect and got that out of it. The way they did Raw on Monday was great because after the 'season finale' usually there's a period where there's nothing while you wait for the next season, but with Raw it was just right back on it, and it perfectly illustrated the no off season thing they like to say. It's not often I get to be this positive about WWE, so I thought I'd take the chance while I could Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Traditionally, Wrestlemanias are for clean pins and sending the crowd home happy and satisfied. That's they "pay off". So if you think of it like that, it's easy to see why it made more sense to see Ziggler cashing in on Raw. Plus, look at how much more effect i had! If it happened at wrestlemania I'd be reading about how his moment was destroyed by an awful wrestlemania lol. Instead, it was part of an awesome raw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FINisher Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Totally unrelated and off-topic but I got a haircut today: My long hair dyed black except two stripes on the right side of the head that I wanted to be coloured to white/grey. They came off as beige, yellow, and now I look like Seth Rollins. And I didn't even realise it immediatly. lol. Now everytime I walk into a bar the Shield theme will start playing in my head. God damn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Roguey Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Totally unrelated and off-topic but I got a haircut today: My long hair dyed black except two stripes on the right side of the head that I wanted to be coloured to white/grey. They came off as beige, yellow, and now I look like Seth Rollins. And I didn't even realise it immediatly. lol. Now everytime I walk into a bar the Shield theme will start playing in my head. God damn it. Will you make sure justice is amongst the things served in the bar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comradebot Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Will you make sure justice is amongst the things served in the bar? And that people everywhere continue to not give a crap about Brad Maddox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We are APW Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TracyBrooksFan" data-cite="TracyBrooksFan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>BREAKING NEWS: New Jersey crowd announced as 2014 Hall of Fame inductee</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks - I was rather proud to have flown from the UK to be there <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makhai Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="bigtplaystew" data-cite="bigtplaystew" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Traditionally, Wrestlemanias are for clean pins and sending the crowd home happy and satisfied. That's they "pay off". So if you think of it like that, it's easy to see why it made more sense to see Ziggler cashing in on Raw.<p> </p><p> Plus, look at how much more effect i had! If it happened at wrestlemania I'd be reading about how his moment was destroyed by an awful wrestlemania lol. Instead, it was part of an awesome raw.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If you think the cash in was anything more than an admitting of the obvious(that Jack Swagger didn't get over, and nobody gives a shit about Del Rio or Swagger) than you're kidding yourself. </p><p> </p><p> If that was the plan, trust me, it would have happened at WM, he'd be a babyface, and it would have been far more played up by Cole. Worked out for the best though. Probably will go down as Ziggler's biggest career defining moment. And I am happy for the guy. While I question his ability to maintain a Main Event slot, he deserves the chance to prove me wrong. However they wanted Del Rio to get over, they know the TV demos are changing, wanted him to be their "Champagne Lover" if you catch my drift.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Comradebot" data-cite="Comradebot" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And that people everywhere continue to not give a crap about Brad Maddox?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I like Braddox <img alt=":mad:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/mad.png.69834f23b9a8bf290d98375f56f1c794.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> And as far as the ADR situation goes they jumped the shark on the feud. I think they jumped the shark in general with ADR's world title run because he won it literally 2 weeks after becoming a face. He already wasn't over as a heel due to being Sheamus' personal jobber for 2012, and nobody gave a crap about him. Then they had him beat Big Show and start pandering to the crowd and they were confused because his turn happened at the worst possible time (Christmas+New Years) so hardly anybody knew how they were supposed to react to him/</p><p> </p><p> To add on to that they have Jack Swagger come back and win some squashes before being number 1 contender and now you have a program destined to fail because it has not only one, but two guys who aren't over at all and they both are suddenly getting tons more airtime and being treated as a big deal despite nothing happening to actually make them seem like a big deal. Ziggler hopefully put the feud out of it's misery. I like Swagger and Del Rio as wrestlers but they had no business being in that kind of feud at that point.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makhai Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I like Braddox <img alt=":mad:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/mad.png.69834f23b9a8bf290d98375f56f1c794.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> And as far as the ADR situation goes they jumped the shark on the feud. I think they jumped the shark in general with ADR's world title run because he won it literally 2 weeks after becoming a face. He already wasn't over as a heel due to being Sheamus' personal jobber for 2012, and nobody gave a crap about him. Then they had him beat Big Show and start pandering to the crowd and they were confused because his turn happened at the worst possible time (Christmas+New Years) so hardly anybody knew how they were supposed to react to him/</p><p> </p><p> To add on to that they have Jack Swagger come back and win some squashes before being number 1 contender and now you have a program destined to fail because it has not only one, but two guys who aren't over at all and they both are suddenly getting tons more airtime and being treated as a big deal despite nothing happening to actually make them seem like a big deal. Ziggler hopefully put the feud out of it's misery. I like Swagger and Del Rio as wrestlers but they had no business being in that kind of feud at that point.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I agree with all of this, but just to correct you, I think you wanted "jump the gun" not "jump the shark." I just hope they don't fire Dutch.... that man is a national treasure. And his demenor ringside during that match tells me things I don't want to hear.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eayragt Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 So I didn't see Wrestlemania, or RAW, but I did get to see this compilation of RAW best bits. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd-MMVEaW5M Or in reality, the crowd's best bits. They were awesome. But I'll have to admit, Cena was awesome to. What were the reactions to the crowd? Sheamus laughed, Orton got pissed, Big Show and Mark Henry ignored them, Jericho didn't do a Lionsault and... Cena ballroom danced. Awesome. If only Henry had done the same... although given his monstrous heel gimmick perhaps it wouldn't have been the best idea. I'm hoping that they run with Ryback as a bad ass who just beats people who annoy him up, and then let the crowd decide whether or not to turn him, rather than force a trn that clearly didn't happen on Monday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Makhai" data-cite="Makhai" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I agree with all of this, but just to correct you, I think you wanted "jump the gun" not "jump the shark." I just hope they don't fire Dutch.... that man is a national treasure. And his demenor ringside during that match tells me things I don't want to hear.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I doubt he's going anywhere, he's the only way Swagger can get a reaction <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Though I think their act should have gotten more airtime before being thrown into a world title feud.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crownsy Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="eayragt" data-cite="eayragt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So I didn't see Wrestlemania, or RAW, but I did get to see this compilation of RAW best bits.<p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd-MMVEaW5M" rel="external nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd-MMVEaW5M</a></p><p> </p><p> Or in reality, the crowd's best bits. They were awesome.</p><p> </p><p> But I'll have to admit, Cena was awesome to. What were the reactions to the crowd? Sheamus laughed, Orton got pissed, Big Show and Mark Henry ignored them, Jericho didn't do a Lionsault and... Cena ballroom danced. Awesome. If only Henry had done the same... although given his monstrous heel gimmick perhaps it wouldn't have been the best idea.</p><p> </p><p> I'm hoping that they run with Ryback as a bad ass who just beats people who annoy him up, and then let the crowd decide whether or not to turn him, rather than force a trn that clearly didn't happen on Monday!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> See, I think along the lines of a poster here earlier, with Ryback they should just have him come out and say "Listen, I don't care who has the title, I want it. I'm in this business to be world champion, nothing else. You have what i want John, so tough luck for you."</p><p> </p><p> Just make him a sort of "No Gimmick Needed" ass kicker. I think he'd be awesome at that. And move away from the food gimmick little by little. </p><p> </p><p> All I can think when he busts out that chant is "Feed me S'mores!"</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comradebot Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 mmmmmmmmmm, smores.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We are APW Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="crownsy" data-cite="crownsy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>See, I think along the lines of a poster here earlier, with Ryback they should just have him come out and say "Listen, I don't care who has the title, I want it. I'm in this business to be world champion, nothing else. You have what i want John, so tough luck for you."<p> "</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <a href="https://twitter.com/Ryback22/status/322176210832596992" rel="external nofollow">https://twitter.com/Ryback22/status/322176210832596992</a></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 I haven't really seen anything to set Ryback up as heel yet, outside of doing what he did to Cena. Can't help to think that was just supposed to be part of his character... "You're here, you have the title, I want it just as much as Henry!" That's what I got out of it, because of the title holding at the end - "This is why I did it!". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 He did it for da Rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I haven't really seen anything to set Ryback up as heel yet, outside of doing what he did to Cena. Can't help to think that was just supposed to be part of his character... "You're here, you have the title, I want it just as much as Henry!" That's what I got out of it, because of the title holding at the end - "This is why I did it!".</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The hard sell by commentary trying to force people into believing that what he did makes him a bad person, despite 20,000 people strong cheering him on.</p><p> </p><p> He'll become a full heel within a month regardless of if the crowd wants it or not because nobody is allowed to get near Cena as a face, just ask CM Punk.</p><p> </p><p> Also he did a little up yours gesture after he did his finisher iirc.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stennick Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 He's teaming with Dolph Ziggler at the next tv show (RAW?) against Cena and somebody so that should pretty well do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 because nobody is allowed to get near Cena as a face, just ask CM Punk. . The guy he just wrestled on Sunday might disagree with that. Regardless, the Ryback heel turn seems inevitable at this point. Whatever momentum he had on his babyface rise has since been squandered for one reason or the other. I hope Fandango's watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 The guy he just wrestled on Sunday might disagree with that. You mean the one who in the grand scheme of things is largely irrelevant and works maybe 15 shows per year on top of already being above Cena? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 You mean the one who in the grand scheme of things is largely irrelevant and works maybe 15 shows per year on top of already being above Cena? What this man said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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