panix04 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The guy who has been the best wrestler in the world since 2006 is the top face of the company and all of a sudden you decide to stop watching? <img alt=":confused:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/confused.png.d4a8e6b6eab0c67698b911fb041c0ed1.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> I don't think its as good as it was in the summer but it's still pretty good and miles above even the early part of this year</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I disagree - I haven't missed a show this year, but lately I am finding it harder to bring myself to shell out for the PPV's. Take one look at the card for this PPV:</p><p> </p><p> Bryan Vs Orton part 7? 8? Even hell in a cell couldn't stop it appearing drab and the finish was hardly unpredictable</p><p> </p><p> Cena Vs Del Rio - this had about as much heat as an ice cube, really boring match as well. glad the straps off Del Rio now, I just find him really boring either as a face or heel. Mind you I struggle to see who they will have challenge Cena for that title now. Unless they go for a unification (which would actually kinda make sense)</p><p> </p><p> CM Punk Vs Ryback - The feud that never ends. Sure it started interesting but Punk Vs Brock should have been the pinnacle, not a really hard to watch match against Ryback. I love CM Punk but I fell asleep (literally) during this match. Punk really needs to be back in the WWE title picture now, the feud with Heyman was a clever distraction, but it's time the best in the world was back where he belongs</p><p> </p><p> Brie Vs AJ - at least this had a bit of build up. Just a shame that nobody really cares. Diva's division needs new talent to make it exciting and then people might start to notice that Brie has actually improved a bit.</p><p> </p><p> Mixed tag match - why?</p><p> </p><p> US title match - Big E is hard to watch, it would appear all he knows how to do is slam people and in short bursts in tag matches that is cool (and he's so damn powerful its almost impressive) but this match was really drab, it only got vaguely exciting because of the gash under Big E's eye.</p><p> </p><p> American-y people against the bull fighter dudes.</p><p> </p><p> I'm probably in a minority here, but I can't help feeling that dressing up primo and epico as bullfighters hasn't covered up the fact they are really boring, if anything its made it worse. When you get upstaged by a dwarf who always botches his entrance it might be time to find a new career. Cesaro needs to be used better, the guy is a brute he shouldn't be getting hurricanraned (is that even a word?) by a tiny guy in a bull costume <img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Tag title match</p><p> Would have been so good as a tornado tag match - credit where its due I really enjoyed this match. Goldust has looked like a new man since his return and Cody has managed to maintain the momentum he had gathered prior to MITB. Rollins and Reigns are beginning to look like the stars of the shield (I think Ambrose has looked poor lately) and the Usos are entertaining and likeable. Good match.</p><p> </p><p> There was as much great talent not being used as there was actually in matches. Need to have a month with some new feuds developing. I agree the summer run wasn't bad, but I think they stretched out key feuds too long and haven't developed any decent new ones.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 <p><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Hell in a Cell Review:</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong>Rhodes Bros vs Usos vs Shield (Tag Titles)</strong> - Great match. Surprised it wasn't Tornado rules. Cody's suplex out the ring was crazy. The effort WWE has put into the tag division over the last year is paying dividends. Real Americans and Wyatts should be their next opponents.</p><p> <strong>Miz, Wyatt Family & Kane</strong> - Fun segment but Kane looked clumsy.</p><p> <strong>Fandango & Summer vs Kahli & Natalya</strong> - Surprisingly decent, but only when Summer and Natalya were wrestling. Summer looked hawt and got the pin in her first match.</p><p> <strong>Ambrose vs Big E (US Title)</strong> - Nice agression (resulting in blood). OK match but there were a few spots that didn't click. Once again Ambrose showed he can't carry a good match on his own. I hope Big E improves because he has the potential to be a better version of Ryback.</p><p> <strong>Punk vs Ryback & Heyman (HIAC)</strong> - Decent match but should have been much better. The post-match stunt had no wow factor. The match lacked the intensity of a (supposed) blow-off match to a long feud. Ryback is clearly not in the same league as Lesnar. And it might as well have been a Street Fight instead of a Cell match because they played it safe. Somehow I don't think the feud's over unless Punk goes after the WWE or WHC title.</p><p> <strong>Los Matadores vs Real Americans</strong> - Zeb is always awesome! Harmless filler match.</p><p> <strong>Del Rio vs Cena (WHC Title)</strong> - Above average match but the lack of build hurt it. Del Rio's in-ring work is underrated. I love his stiff kicks and german suplex. I don't mind Cena winning... if a Sandow cash-in is on the horizon.</p><p> <strong>AJ vs Brie (Divas Title)</strong> - Good for a divas match. I'm suprised AJ retained. She's run out of opponents hasn't she?</p><p> <strong>Orton vs Bryan (HIAC WWE Title)</strong> - Good stiff match that made proper use of the Cell. Even the overbooked finish was exciting if a little predictable. Glad they kept Big Show out of it.</p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;"> Verdict:</span></strong> Average PPV saved by the opening and closing matches. HIAC should be a gimmick for violent blow-off matches not a themed PPV.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panix04 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>HIAC should be a gimmick for violent blow-off matches not a themed PPV.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> YES! YES! YES! <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBooker Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Personally the main event was predictable but it will be interesting to see what the payoff is also it looks bad if Orton cant hit the RKO on Bryan while HBK hits sweet chin music and it knockouts Bryan for the 3 count. so HOF referee cant knockout a challenger for the WWE championship while the other challenger cant get his finisher on the other challenger at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrdcoresidebrns Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> In a nut shell, it's going on too long for people. I think that it's doing what WWE wants it to do, which is make a huge star out of Daniel Bryan. Daniel Bryan is getting over with people that he wasn't getting over with before. With each "screwjob" he has become even more popular... and I have a feeling it's going to go on til' they think they've reached the ceiling with him, and then the storyline will evolve into what long time fans desired a month or two ago... which is Daniel Bryan becoming the WWE Champion with at least a normal run, instead of being cut short.<p> </p><p> With long time DB fans, and I think young people in general, things feel like they are taking forever. Patience is hard when you think it's been "that time" for months. It also gets boring when you think time after time "Finally!" it's going to happen, then doesn't. </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I would agree with you on this if it felt as though this was building to that cathartic ending, but it doesn't. </p><p> </p><p> The main problem is that there's been almost nothing done to give Bryan's fans that idea of hope. The whole Austin/McMahon storyline that this has drawn comparison to worked because Austin would constantly thwart McMahon, and there was always a trade off of wins (at least moral victories, as it were). That really hasn't happened here. The "Authority" has pretty much beaten Bryan at every turn. There have been others involved in the feud (namely Big Show and the Rhodes) who have gotten over on HHH/Steph/Orton, but Bryan has not been allowed to in the least. That can only sustain fans so long before they lose interest because they've lost hope of seeing the triumphant win. </p><p> </p><p> In fact, I'd argue that seeing Cody and Golddust win their jobs back and take the straps off the Shield, and Big Show causing chaos and knocking HHH unconscious, makes Bryan look even weaker than HHH's/Stephanie's verbal burials have. Others have figured out how to beat the Authority, so why am I rooting for the one guy who can't seem to do it? Bryan doesn't have the aura of the plucky underdog anymore. He could cause chaos on the show and get to the Authority in another way. He could have been the one to cost the Shield the titles the Rhodes, but he didn't. He could have cost Orton the match against Cody that got Cody fired in the first place, but he didn't. He instead has done nothing but the straight-laced, "I'm gonna prove that I'm the best" model, with ZERO success. It's given the impression of a man running headfirst into a six-foot-wide brick wall over and over while everyone else watches him and simply walks around it.</p><p> </p><p> That's the problem with the whole angle, I feel. Even if Bryan does eventually get his big title win, why would you believe it by this point? And how cathartic will it actually be in the end? Best case, he wins the title and everyone who watched the chase and rooted for him will instead just immediately assume that it's only a matter of time before he loses it.</p><p> </p><p> Just my two cents. I've had a lot of frustration with this angle in case you couldn't tell. <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I would agree with you on this if it felt as though this was building to that cathartic ending, but it doesn't. The main problem is that there's been almost nothing done to give Bryan's fans that idea of hope. The whole Austin/McMahon storyline that this has drawn comparison to worked because Austin would constantly thwart McMahon, and there was always a trade off of wins (at least moral victories, as it were). That really hasn't happened here. The "Authority" has pretty much beaten Bryan at every turn. There have been others involved in the feud (namely Big Show and the Rhodes) who have gotten over on HHH/Steph/Orton, but Bryan has not been allowed to in the least. That can only sustain fans so long before they lose interest because they've lost hope of seeing the triumphant win. In fact, I'd argue that seeing Cody and Golddust win their jobs back and take the straps off the Shield, and Big Show causing chaos and knocking HHH unconscious, makes Bryan look even weaker than HHH's/Stephanie's verbal burials have. Others have figured out how to beat the Authority, so why am I rooting for the one guy who can't seem to do it? Bryan doesn't have the aura of the plucky underdog anymore. He could cause chaos on the show and get to the Authority in another way. He could have been the one to cost the Shield the titles the Rhodes, but he didn't. He could have cost Orton the match against Cody that got Cody fired in the first place, but he didn't. He instead has done nothing but the straight-laced, "I'm gonna prove that I'm the best" model, with ZERO success. It's given the impression of a man running headfirst into a six-foot-wide brick wall over and over while everyone else watches him and simply walks around it. That's the problem with the whole angle, I feel. Even if Bryan does eventually get his big title win, why would you believe it by this point? And how cathartic will it actually be in the end? Best case, he wins the title and everyone who watched the chase and rooted for him will instead just immediately assume that it's only a matter of time before he loses it. Just my two cents. I've had a lot of frustration with this angle in case you couldn't tell. Yeah, I understand. If not only because it's been frustrating to me as well, but... I keep seeing how it ended wrong and why, and I can see where they are headed with it. I know you have had a hard time trying to watch lately, but the only reason I felt DB was going to lose was because of him winning every single confrontation before this PPV. If I went PPV to PPV, I wouldn't have anything to debate you about with this storyline. However, Daniel Bryan wins more then he loses outside of the PPV, and even at the PPV the only reason he lost was because of HBK protecting his friend HHH, who was introduced to DB's knee. Honestly looked like they are going to play it out as HBK being upset about how everything went down, and.... Did anyone notice that HBK looked like he was in outstanding, and I do mean "ring ready" condition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Personally the main event was predictable but it will be interesting to see what the payoff is also it looks bad if Orton cant hit the RKO on Bryan while HBK hits sweet chin music and it knockouts Bryan for the 3 count. so HOF referee cant knockout a challenger for the WWE championship while the other challenger cant get his finisher on the other challenger at all. The super kick come from nowhere, as far as that's concerned... and every time Orton hit the RKO on DB when it come from nowhere, it had DB down for the three count as well. I think that's made sense so far, and people are reaching about the super kick thing... Plus, HBK didn't look like an old retired guy in that ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwt13 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 One thing that would get me to start watching again would be a HBK Vs DB match and angle student vs teacher that turned his back on him. I no it won't happen but it would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrdcoresidebrns Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yeah, I understand. If not only because it's been frustrating to me as well, but... I keep seeing how it ended wrong and why, and I can see where they are headed with it.<p> </p><p> I know you have had a hard time trying to watch lately, but the only reason I felt DB was going to lose was because of him winning every single confrontation before this PPV. If I went PPV to PPV, I wouldn't have anything to debate you about with this storyline. However, Daniel Bryan wins more then he loses outside of the PPV, and even at the PPV the only reason he lost was because of HBK protecting his friend HHH, who was introduced to DB's knee. Honestly looked like they are going to play it out as HBK being upset about how everything went down, and....</p><p> </p><p> Did anyone notice that HBK looked like he was in outstanding, and I do mean "ring ready" condition?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Tonight, I think, proved my point. Post HIAC, with Daniel Bryan coming off yet another loss going for the WWE Championship. For all appearances, it looks to be that Daniel Bryan and possibly CM Punk teaming up against the Wyatt family, with Big Show challenging Orton for the title and battling against HHH and Stephanie. This effectively (at least for the time being) is putting Bryan OUT of the title scene. Meaning, realistically, the end of "the chase" storyline without the crowning moment of Bryan actually winning the title.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tha Black Phenom Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 <p>If the chase to the crowning moment of Bryan winning the title is actually what people are frothing at the mouth for, then it's not out of sight to guess they could keep that moment for a much bigger stage...</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> At the end of the day, everybody's looking out for who they love. And for WWE to go around with their roster, as it is right now, they have to knock down a few pegs to build other ones. Even if Bryan were to be out of the title picture, he still came out of this a former WWE champion and having gone over John Cena and Orton, clean(debatably, on the latter's defeat). While that's not much to you, I'd rather take that over an outcome everybody started predicting would happen.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMegaFish Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 <p>Not just in regards to last nights match, but any match with a special ref here...why not just make your intentions clear from the word go and attack someone if you plan to turn on them? I missed the start of D-Bry and Michaels promo tonight, but if Shawn always planned to attack Daniel, why even call the match anything close to fair? Ring the bell and double team the one guy, just like a video game. Who is going to stop you? You are the official! Do whatever the heck you want!</p><p> </p><p> On another note, sometimes JBL drives me insane, but sometimes he brings a lot of fun to the announce group, and it really shows up and makes the whole show a lot more enjoyable sometimes. During The Real Americans match at HIAC I nearly died listening to the commentary team. Trying to explain to JBL that it's not a real bull is hilarious in its own right, but then saying that its the same guy in a different suit which only confused JBL was another. I love that Michael Cole said sometimes people change, and even mentioned how JBL used to be a cowboy with a handlebar mustache. Golden.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DaMegaFish" data-cite="DaMegaFish" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not just in regards to last nights match, but any match with a special ref here...why not just make your intentions clear from the word go and attack someone if you plan to turn on them? I missed the start of D-Bry and Michaels promo tonight, but if Shawn always planned to attack Daniel, why even call the match anything close to fair? Ring the bell and double team the one guy, just like a video game. Who is going to stop you? You are the official! Do whatever the heck you want!<p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> He super kicked D-Bry because D-Bry knocked Triple H the hell out. That's his best friend. That was at the beginning of the promo.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 <p><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Raw Review:</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong>Cena vs Sandow (WHC Title)</strong> - Holy crap Sandow's cashing in! Good match. I'm 50/50 on the result. I like that MITB is no longer a guarantee but I would have been happy for Sandow to win then drop the belt to Cena at Survivor Series. Although Sandow is suspended for 60 days for a wellness violation so any potential push is now gone.</p><p> <strong>Shield vs Big E & Usos</strong> - Good match as expected. Add in Rhodes Bros and the Real Americans and you've got a Survivor Series match.</p><p> <strong>HBK & Bryan</strong> - The crowd turning on HBK shows how over Bryan is. Great segment.</p><p> <strong>Punk vs Ryback (Street Fight)</strong> - Mediocre match. It was way too short and copied the table spot from HIAC. Only the old school bell claps and the Anaconda Vice made it watchable.</p><p> <strong>Wyatt Family</strong> - Finally they are doing something big with the Wyatts. Bryan, Punk & Miz vs The Wyatts at Survivor Series?</p><p> <strong>Rhodes Bros vs Real Americans</strong> - A huge win for the Real Americans to kick off a new tag title feud.</p><p> <strong>Orton Celebration</strong> - Big Show wants to bankrupt WWE. Is that a dig at TNA? Will Show go after Orton or Trips? <a href="http://ewrestlingnews.com/news/21517/update-triple-h-kicks-fans-out-of-the-arena-after-raw" rel="external nofollow">HHH tries to kick fans out of the arena after Raw.</a></p><p> </p><p> <span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>Verdict:</strong></span> Strong 1st half, weak 2nd half. And there wasn't a main event match.</p><p> </p><p> <span>http://www.prowrestling.net/artman/uploads/1/409814_lg.jpg</span></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 <span>http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt88/milamber/1378121_406977072765022_519145652_n_zps16fb17c8.jpg~original</span><span>http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt88/milamber/john_cena_funny_zps775a6f4d.jpg~original</span><span>http://i.imgur.com/iYQNf.gif</span> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killagy Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 <p>I know Cena has always gotten mixed reactions from the crowd, but last night really shocked me! The crowd popped for him, but not nearly as enthusiastically as it was in the past, and the fraction that were booing were audible enough to hear. I'm actually hoping he keeps gaining these reactions for the next couple of weeks or so, the consensus that Cena needs to turn heel could become the majority instead of the minority.</p><p> </p><p> Of course, maybe I'm just overreacting and getting my hopes up, they were in Orlando after all last night.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angeldelayette Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 WWE has finally done enough for me that I will no longer be watching their product. The 'Super-Cena' crap insults my intelligence as a wrestling fan as much as the Katie Vick crap did. Cena couldn't sell water to someone that was on fire. This has been the straw that broke the camel's back. And I am a long-time WWE fan that has defended them to people time and time again. I can no longer defend them. Time to go back to my TEW and the good old days of wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 That Sandow-Cena angle was really crap. This is the second year in a row that they completely waste the World Heavyweight Championship briefcase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong><span style="text-decoration:underline">Raw Review:</span></strong><p> </p><p> <strong>Cena vs Sandow (WHC Title)</strong> - Holy crap Sandow's cashing in! Good match. I'm 50/50 on the result. I like that MITB is no longer a guarantee but I would have been happy for Sandow to win then drop the belt to Cena at Survivor Series. Although Sandow is suspended for 60 days for a wellness violation so any potential push is now gone.</p><p> <strong>Shield vs Big E & Usos</strong> - Good match as expected. Add in Rhodes Bros and the Real Americans and you've got a Survivor Series match.</p><p> <strong>HBK & Bryan</strong> - The crowd turning on HBK shows how over Bryan is. Great segment.</p><p> <strong>Punk vs Ryback (Street Fight)</strong> - Mediocre match. It was way too short and copied the table spot from HIAC. Only the old school bell claps and the Anaconda Vice made it watchable.</p><p> <strong>Wyatt Family</strong> - Finally they are doing something big with the Wyatts. Bryan, Punk & Miz vs The Wyatts at Survivor Series?</p><p> <strong>Rhodes Bros vs Real Americans</strong> - A huge win for the Real Americans to kick off a new tag title feud.</p><p> <strong>Orton Celebration</strong> - Big Show wants to bankrupt WWE. Is that a dig at TNA? Will Show go after Orton or Trips? <a href="http://ewrestlingnews.com/news/21517/update-triple-h-kicks-fans-out-of-the-arena-after-raw" rel="external nofollow">HHH tries to kick fans out of the arena after Raw.</a></p><p> </p><p> <span style="text-decoration:underline"><strong>Verdict:</strong></span> Strong 1st half, weak 2nd half. And there wasn't a main event match.</p><p> </p><p> <span>http://www.prowrestling.net/artman/uploads/1/409814_lg.jpg</span></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You...LIKED the cash-in result? WHAT?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I haven't seen anywhere say that Sandow has been suspended. Could you give a source milamber? It seems legit as the cash in was quite suprising and with no build up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 I tried googling it to see where milamber could have gotten that, and all I found was the fake news story from kayfabe news from last year. http://www.kayfabenews.com/sandow-suspended-for-use-of-performance-enhancing-thesaurus/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I tried googling it to see where milamber could have gotten that, and all I found was the fake news story from kayfabe news from last year.<p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.kayfabenews.com/sandow-suspended-for-use-of-performance-enhancing-thesaurus/" rel="external nofollow">http://www.kayfabenews.com/sandow-suspended-for-use-of-performance-enhancing-thesaurus/</a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah that was the only thing I found. Maybe they have no plans for Cena to drop the belt and they just wanted to remove the briefcase from Sandow just to not have to worry about him cashing in.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMegaFish Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>He super kicked D-Bry because D-Bry knocked Triple H the hell out. That's his best friend. That was at the beginning of the promo.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well at least I kinda saved face by saying I missed the start of the promo on RAW.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DaMegaFish" data-cite="DaMegaFish" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well at least I kinda saved face by saying I missed the start of the promo on RAW.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> At the PPV, in case you missed it, HHH ran down the ramp after Orton was complaining that it was only a two count on Daniel Bryan. I think it was supposed to look like HHH thought HBK did a slow count (it was borderline), and that HBK might be siding with Daniel Bryan.</p><p> </p><p> HHH ends up ringside, talking to HBK when Orton gets Daniel Bryan down for another 3 count, but when HBK noticed Orton over reacted yelling at him "Are you serious!??" HHH gets in the ring, there is a bit of Chaos... Daniel Bryan had enough and Knee's HHH. HBK immediately checks on HBK, then gets up just as Daniel Bryan started going for Orton and super kicks DB. Orton covers, and HBK very reluctantly counts to three for the pin. Everyone boo'd.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pteroid Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 <p>By virtue of being the last match of the show, our de facto main event was Summer Rae vs Natalya...says a lot about this show.</p><p> </p><p> However, like Ryback suggested, I, fatty that I am, will find three things I like about this show.</p><p> </p><p> 1. Bryan finally...FINALLY getting angry about all this nonsense instead of being 'Mr. Oh Yeaaaah I May Not Be Mr. GQ But Yannoooo...'. Sarcasm is the death of wit.</p><p> </p><p> 2. The Wyatts finally having a storyline of some kind.</p><p> </p><p> 3. Guilty pleasure but...the bit with Slater and Torrito was hilarious to me being a shameless Loony Toons fan.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rickymex" data-cite="Rickymex" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yeah that was the only thing I found. Maybe they have no plans for Cena to drop the belt and they just wanted to remove the briefcase from Sandow just to not have to worry about him cashing in.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Don't quote me on the Sandow thing. Someone mentioned on another forum that he'd been suspended for a second wellness violation and it made sense. The only other reason for Sandow not winning I can think of is that if Cena won it straight back at Survivor Series that would be 2 more title reigns for Cena and that would piss a lot of people off since he's closing in on Flair's record.</p><p> </p><p> Ideally, Sandow would attacked Cena like he did and cashed in successfully. Then Cena would have demanded an instant rematch, wrestled the same match we saw and won the title back. Then they would have had a rematch at Survivor Series to try and put Sandow over. Either way, Cena being WH champ is good for business but Sandow deserved better. At least Ziggler got to have his moment of glory before being depushed into oblivion.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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