The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

[TracyBrooksFan]

As if more proof was needed that TNA moving to monday nights was a terrible decision. The replay got a .69 beating the "live" showing by .19.

 

well liek i said when TNA is Live they get higher ratings yes i know 0.8 or 0.9 may not seem high but i damn sure better then 0.5 which was this past weeks show which was TAPED.

[Slagaholic]

They were consistently getting above a 1 every week on Thursdays. This move to Mondays has not caused them to gain viewers at all. The whole decision in and of itself was very amateurish. The move meant that they were asking wrestling fans to pick between them and WWE's #1 show every week. That's not going to happen. I'm fine with the TNA product and the direction it's heading. But you can't make the big move while you're still fiddling with the formula. Then you start making desperation moves like the hotshotting of RVD.

 

If they go live every week, it may get better; however, to me that seems like an anomaly.

[Hyde Hill]

Yeah but like was stated before by me and sources within TNA the move to mondays was mainly used as a relaitvly cheap way to increase brand awereness due to the "war" publicity and the fact that most of the existing wrestling audience is tuned in on Monday around that time, with added on the factor of Spike and with that the whole Viacom family wanting to put a dent in USA's numbers. The fact that said brand awereness has not increased in brand engagement due to in part a lack of brand identity can be put at TNA's doorstep, but it seems that given the budget and quality and size of the organisation atm within TNA they do not have the capacity to do all three unfortunatly. They chose to focus on awereness and that is a tactical choice.

 

Edit: Yeah Bubba is gone!!!!!! Too bad he was ever there.

[SaySo]

<p>NoDQ.com > TNA > BTLS staff member calls TNA fans "cowardly c*nts"</p><p> Posted by Mark Virginia on 05/01/2010 at 01:48 PM</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Bubba The Love Sponge's staff member Brent Hatley posted some harsh comments on Twitter (BTLSRadio) in response to TNA fans that don't like Bubba:<p> </p><p> "Shut the f*** up, mark...Maybe you should get your GED and stop worrying about men in tights."</p><p> </p><p> "You're entire life is pointless. Go back to screwing your sister and watching TNA you white trash simpleton."</p><p> </p><p> "Bubba Army, you guys are simply the best. Nobody could ask for better fans. TNA fans are nothing but a bunch of little cowardly ****s."</p><p> </p><p> "You love oiled up men in tights. You are a douche nozzle that thinks wrestling is real. Get a f***ing life. Go away."</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> --found this in another forum below--</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>@chargermike41 Bubba said nothing racist. This is the pussification of America. Stop being so overly PC. That's not what the US is..Brent<p> </p><p> @crazyguy30 What are you going to do about it little girl?? Brent</p><p> </p><p> Cow and Bubba worked Kong. TNA decided to take mark out to Kong. **** TNA and their retarded fans. Without Bubba or Cow they're done. Brent </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> -------</p><p> </p><p> So BTLS got a job with TNA because of Hogan? Actually why did he get a job with TNA in the first place?</p>

[The Final Countdown]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Without Bubba or Cow they're done.</div></blockquote><p> <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Yep, I'm sure that if there were a "Destruction of TNA" DVD, the firing of BTLS will be pointed to as the beginning of the end.</p>

[Hyde Hill]

One of the worst moves ever bringing him in and one of the best to let him go, and yeah blame it on Hogan. A mediocre at best non entity shock jock had no place in TNA.

[PeterHilton]

<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnBlG-hmf3I&feature=player_embedded" rel="external nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnBlG-hmf3I&feature=player_embedded</a></p><p> </p><p>

These comments on radio must've been the last straw.</p>

[jwt13]

Bubbas Army is after me on twitter lol

[jwt13]

Anyone who has a twitter joing TheTNAarmy on twitter we will show Bubba whos boss;) (PS I'm really bored today)

[Ghoul]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnBlG-hmf3I&feature=player_embedded

 

These comments on radio must've been the last straw.

 

wow, what a rascist jerk. glad he got fired. the iron sheik has some cool comments for bubba^^

[SaySo]

The link below is from reportedly Iron Sheik directed at Bubba the Love Sponge. Warning, language isn't PG.

 

http://i44.tinypic.com/11smbua.jpg

[Trashbear]

Gotta love that Sheiky Baby. "Ho Dick Ass" is an all-time insult.

[fatallylost]

Oh man... I sure hope Sheik doesn't humble Bubba.

[The Celt]

Man...Iron Shiek is like the spirit/soul of wrestling fans worldwide made man. God bless his crazy, crazy ass.

[Remianen]

I agree the pay thing rears its ugly head but in all do honesty Tara is not the girl to be giving pay increases to. She's on the wrong side of 40, she's always harping about doing MMA, she hasn't been interesting in five years. I agree the KO's need better pay or atleast more equal pay Hemme getting 500,000 doesn't count. That being said I'm quite sure they were blowing smoke up Tara telling her they wanted to build the division around her. I think its clear the division is built around The BP's and Angelina for the most part.

 

Yeah that amount for Hemme is ludicrious and losing Tara is no big deal imho as she didn't really perform imho. We shall see.

 

Lemme ask you TEW players something.

 

If Tara "wasn't interesting", who's fault is that? You're talking about people who are the card placement equivalent of freakin' Happy Elwood.

 

I like Tara..but let's face it...if I were her I wouldn't be in a hurry to re-sign. Her storylines have been a mess. She was most effective as a dominant heel who played an obsessed psycho and in TNA she's been a face who loves spiders. WTF?

 

Her momentum when she arrived was wasted . Let her go and sign Mickie James and no one will even notice.

 

Not surprisingly, this guy gets it.

 

Lisa Varon is (or would be) an excellent worker in a senior/living legend type of role. She's been there and done that and has a wealth of experience to draw on. None of the Knockouts have ever worked front & center on the biggest stage in the business. What's more, she's been taking care of her post-wrestling life almost since the beginning (see: Fat Tony's and now Widow Customs), kinda like Trish and Nora did. None of those girls has done that. Onscreen, when booked to her strengths, she can still outperform the T&A remnants of the Knockouts.

 

But no, because she's nearing 40 (OMG 40! She's almost Social Security age! ) and has been booked poorly, you think she should go. Despite the fact that she's the only Knockout with "street cred" with the audience TNA's trying to siphon, can still go, and has the experience necessary to possibly bring up the green and limited in the ring division, you let her go. Yeah, I suppose having your backstage interviewer be the highest paid "Knockout" is an awesome idea! I swear, TNA's management should go to work for Goldman Sachs. I bet the job would pay better, for the same logic.

[Hyde Hill]

I am not bashing Tara at all as a talent, she just did not do it for me and off course that is also for a large part due to booking, but also in the matches and time she got for matches I was generally not impressed. Not bad but I had hoped for more. I was really happy when she came in and had hoped they would use her well and she would give her all and due to the fact that in general in TNA performers are allowed to do more in the ring that she would show that. Unfortunately neither happened.

[Remianen]

I am not bashing Tara at all as a talent, she just did not do it for me and off course that is also for a large part due to booking, but also in the matches and time she got for matches I was generally not impressed. Not bad but I had hoped for more. I was really happy when she came in and had hoped they would use her well and she would give her all and due to the fact that in general in TNA performers are allowed to do more in the ring that she would show that. Unfortunately neither happened.

 

Takes two to tango. How good would your team be at so...erm futbol, if your goalie was a donkey? Tara-Kong did well, I thought. Being allowed to do more doesn't automatically mean you do so. No more than having a gun means you should start shooting people. If your opponent is green or less than ideally capable, you can't start popping off big moves if they can't protect you. If you're playing (insert sport here) with a toddler, you don't play at the best of your ability, you tone it down so the toddler can actually participate (or have a chance of participating).

 

Good workers tend to have good matches together. A good worker with a bad or less skilled worker needs to work harder to make that match "good" and sometimes, no matter how hard you work, you just can't pull it off. Could Kurt Angle get a good match out of Rob Terry? I don't think so, for the same reason Tara couldn't produce that with Velvet or Madison (or even Angelina. She's improved but she's still not all that good).

[BHK1978]

Good workers tend to have good matches together. A good worker with a bad or less skilled worker needs to work harder to make that match "good" and sometimes, no matter how hard you work, you just can't pull it off. Could Kurt Angle get a good match out of Rob Terry? I don't think so, for the same reason Tara couldn't produce that with Velvet or Madison (or even Angelina. She's improved but she's still not all that good).

 

Why did you have to write this line? Now I know some how some way this will lead to Angle vs. Terry.

 

With Velvet, I really could care less if she could wrestle a lick. What she lacks in talent she more than makes up for in other areas.

[TakerNGN74]

I hate Rob Terry with a passion look at it this way WWE has a wellness policy but TNA no they just put some guy on TV who looks like he is on Roids and from the looks of his body I wouldn't be surprised if he was.

[The Bus]

I'm with Remi on the Tara/Victoria/Lisa Marie Varon matter. She should be the cornerstone of the KO division because of popularity and more so her skills to help other in the ring.

 

In what areas is she "lacking"? Well she's older than the other KO's and doesn't have those oversized implants. Maybe that is enough to dislike her...

[Hyde Hill]

Takes two to tango. How good would your team be at so...erm futbol, if your goalie was a donkey? Tara-Kong did well, I thought. Being allowed to do more doesn't automatically mean you do so. No more than having a gun means you should start shooting people. If your opponent is green or less than ideally capable, you can't start popping off big moves if they can't protect you. If you're playing (insert sport here) with a toddler, you don't play at the best of your ability, you tone it down so the toddler can actually participate (or have a chance of participating).

 

Good workers tend to have good matches together. A good worker with a bad or less skilled worker needs to work harder to make that match "good" and sometimes, no matter how hard you work, you just can't pull it off. Could Kurt Angle get a good match out of Rob Terry? I don't think so, for the same reason Tara couldn't produce that with Velvet or Madison (or even Angelina. She's improved but she's still not all that good).

 

Then why did Kim, Kong, Wilde, Sarita, Daffney etc have in my view better matches with the BP? And why did she have better matches against worse wrestlers in the E? Its not about look for me at all when it comes to her, I had just hoped for more from both a booking and in ring standpoint. Neither happened and it is a shame. Not knocking her talent just her run. Maybe age and injuries etc had effected her to a point where her in ring skills had become less.

[Trashbear]

Don't you guys know that Lisa Varon is just Lance Storm in a wig?

[cappyboy]

Don't you guys know that Lisa Varon is just Lance Storm in a wig?

 

Interesting theory, Trashbear. I'm guessing this is supposed to be to you as Vampiro being "the extra pasty mime who speaks" or my insistence that Mr Anderson is a secret Holly cousin is to me. Or am I trying to assign a statement of X-Pac heat where it doesn't belong just because it sounds like one?

[Trashbear]

Interesting theory, Trashbear. I'm guessing this is supposed to be to you as Vampiro being "the extra pasty mime who speaks" or my insistence that Mr Anderson is a secret Holly cousin is to me. Or am I trying to assign a statement of X-Pac heat where it doesn't belong just because it sounds like one?

 

No, this a reference to a story that Lance Storm told on his website a few years ago about how a few of the boys joked that Lance and Victoria look like brother and sister. They started to play it up like they were actually related, and then they started doing the old "never in the same place at the same time" thing so they could try and play jokes on people about them actually being the same person.

 

No X-Pac heat from me!

[cappyboy]

No, this a reference to a story that Lance Storm told on his website a few years ago about how a few of the boys joked that Lance and Victoria look like brother and sister. They started to play it up like they were actually related, and then they started doing the old "never in the same place at the same time" thing so they could try and play jokes on people about them actually being the same person.

 

No X-Pac heat from me!

 

LOL. Okay. I don't go to talent blogs or websites often enough to have ever heard this. It's kind of odd thinking of Lance Storm having this kind of sense of humor. Still, it does sound like an awesome gag.