The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

[Hashasheen]

<p>Wow did I get jumped. Lets see... </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cappyboy" data-cite="cappyboy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well of course you are. You said it yourself. You're new to TNA. But you know who you sound like? Me about a year a and half, two years ago. </div></blockquote> Hopefully not. <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> I've been watching wrestling on a regular basis since '06, mostly WWE with old-school WCW and recently ROH and TNA. <p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>But once this Immortal stuff has finished, we've had the payoff, and it's time to move on, let's see how long they are willing to do that before doing something wild to "change TNA forever". If they actually follow through on the aftermath period and let it go somewhere, then maybe you'll prove to be right. But a lot of us will have to see it to believe it.<p> </p><p> Now don't think I'm saying you shouldn't let it play out and see where it goes. I'm glad you have the energy to do that. Just letting you know how much you don't know at the moment. Things sound like they are starting to ease in the right direction but I'm skeptical until further notice.</p></div></blockquote> I guess you guys will. I'm perfectly understanding over where you guys are coming from. You've been burned plenty of times, and it seems like its just another burn coming your way. I apologise if I came off as condescending in any way when I said it, but I'm generally optimistic when it comes to wrestling, so who knows? <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Obviously our tastes are different. </div></blockquote> Obviously. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't need or want to see 60 year old Hulk Hogan as the anti establishment heel, I don't want or need to see Jeff Jarrett in yet ANOTHER main event stable where apparently he's on the screen the whole time.</div></blockquote> Anti-Establishment? Isn't he the establishment at the moment? <img alt=":confused:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/confused.png.d4a8e6b6eab0c67698b911fb041c0ed1.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> And Jarrett can still go rather well from what I've seen, not to mention Immortal needs numbers. Right now its Hardy/Abyss/Jarrett in terms of non-Fortune wrestlers, who are already splintering. <p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Abyss derailing the Pope? Didn't Fortune derail this guy last year? </div></blockquote> I meant Kayfabe derailing. Stopping him from his mission against Immortal and his fight. <img alt=":o" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/redface.png.900245280682ef18c5d82399a93c5827.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Last year the Pope was the hottest act in the country and going into his title shot he might have been the biggest or second biggest baby they had. What is he doing now? The SAME stuff he was doing in March, playing the upper mid card, every once in a while main eventer. This Immortal stuff should have elevated him to the top of the company, instead we got a flash Matt Morgan turn (which I was ok with) and Pope is still left feuding with lackey's and what not before his eventual world title shot will be at some throw away pay per view. I know you're knew but you have to understand Pope has been upper mid card, teasing main event for nine months now. At some point you have to pulll the damn trigger and give the guy the biggest story in the company. </div></blockquote> Maybe. But here's the thing. Its not about Pope alone. Look at all the major faces. Each and every single one of them is going alone. Anderson, Pope, Angle, Joe, etc... None of them are unified, and I'm expecting down the line that they will all do so, with or without Dixie Carter. And to be honest, I'm fine with Morgan getting the shot at Turning Point, because as much as I like him, someone needs to lose to Hardy and put over his reign, so why not him, while Pope is conquering Abyss. <p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You're making a common TNA mistake. You're reading dirt sheets and trying to predict TNA's future. Just because their contracts are coming up doesn't mean anything. Sabu is likely done but I'm sure Rhino will get resigned. Also there is ZERO indication that Raven and Dreamer are "headed for backstage roles" their still as prevalent on the screen as the day they came in. </div></blockquote> Maybe I am. Who knows? <p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As far as has been's still wrestilng? Where do I count the ways. Jeff Jarrett, Team 3D, Raven, Tommy Dreamer, Sabu, Rhino, Mick Foley, I'm sure I could go on but I haven't watched in over a month now. </div></blockquote> Foley isn't regularily wrestling though. Team 3D is retiring at Turning Point. Sabu and Rhino appear to have their contracts coming up. That leaves Raven, Dreamer and Jarrett. <p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>To me though you come across as a guy that says "I don't mind 2000 WCW that much, sure they weren't great but they were on the right track before this or that happened". </div></blockquote> You pegged me somewhat correctly. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Watching back to 2000, I both liked some stuff and get so furious with the things they easily got wrong. <p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>TNA fans sometimes fall into a trap of defending the company because their fans of it and so they make excuses for the silly, non sensical things that they do both on and off screen. </div></blockquote> Yeah, that's very true. Kinda pisses me off whenever I try to say anything about TNA good or bad. LOL YOU STUPID WWE MARK! <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>To say there are hardly any has been in the company when there is an entire STABLE of has beens who currently have been kicking the young guy "elite" stable's but for months now. Well thats just silly.</div></blockquote> To be honest, I kinda forgot about E.V when I wrote it. <img alt=":o" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/redface.png.900245280682ef18c5d82399a93c5827.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As far as the X Division, again that Jersey Shore guy is feuding with Jay Lethal over the title right? One Jay Lethal was the hottest act not named Pope in the company. Wasn't he feuding with Ric Flair, AJ Styles, and at the time the only main event faction there was? Now he's wrestling the Jersey Shore guy? This guy should be in Pope's spot now. He should be the guy that every heel has to go through to get to the main event scene. Instead he's stuck in some silly feuding, with a meaningless championship, fighting against a bad Zack Ryder rip off. <p> </p><p> The other guy might be talented but answer me this is he Homicide talented? Is he Amazing Red talented? Is he Jerry Lynn talented (before), Low Ki, Chris Sabin, even Brian Kendrick, Shannon Moore, Christopher Daniels, so many guys have been in and around this X Division championship in the past, Joe, Styles, etc and you look at all those names are you really prepared to put THAT guys name on that list of elite, game changing, in ring superstars? To coin a phrase I don't think so.</p></div></blockquote> Are you prepared to give him the chance you gave Homicide, Sabin, Daniels and Low Ki? Because it doesn't seem like it. Those guys were unknowns before they joined ROH and TNA. 8 years ago, were you saying : "The other guy might be talented but answer me this is he Guerrero talented? Is he Helms talented? Is he Guerrera talented (before), Psicosis, Misterio, even Kid Romeo, Shannon Moore, Evan Karagias, so many guys have been in and around the cruiserweight championship in the past..." Or did you give them the chance to prove you wrong? <p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Lastly you mention the Knockouts Division being ok as is and just needs some padding? So you really think that Mickie James vs. Victoria a feud that could have happened in 2006 in the WWE is the best way to go? I'm sorry but you really think the BP's really hold a candle to Kong, Allisa Flash, Gail Kim even ODB? You really think so? </div></blockquote> Gail Kim botches like no other. Alissa Flash didn't really do much without Kong. ODB is indeed missed. <img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> And as for Mickie versus Victoria, its a ready-made storyline with a lot of emotion in it. Would you prefer they ignored the history of every wrestler who's wrestled outside TNA? "The 0-Time World Champion, Ric Flair..." Sometimes people come into the company with well known storylines outside it. It happens, and they can take advantage of it. <p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Again you're new to TNA but the entire POINT of the Knockouts Division, much like the X Division is to be DIFFERENT give the fans the womens wrestling they can't see on the other channel. You really think a bunch of plastic blondes with little in the way of actual in ring talent and a bunch of WWE cast offs is really something different than what we're seeing on the other channel? </div></blockquote> Hey, I've watched a lot of TNA's older years, so please don't put words in my mouth. While the Beautiful People aren't as good wrestling wise as ODB or Kong (both of whom I miss back in TNA), they're still pretty good wrestling wise. <p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Same with the X Division, the championship used to be about putting two guys in the ring with jaw dropping, in ring charisma and skill that could pull off moves the likes of which we've never seen. Now they got Zack Ryder 2.0 feuding for it? It becomes just another title at that point with zero meaning behind it. </div></blockquote> Haven't a lot of the wrestlers there "graduated" for a lack of a better word? AJ, MCMG, Lethal Consquences, etc... ? Did you want them to stay there forever like Benoit, Guerrero, Malenko, Jericho did in the Cruiserweight Division? <img alt=":confused:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/confused.png.d4a8e6b6eab0c67698b911fb041c0ed1.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Anyway like it if you want but like you said you're new to TNA, the things we're complaining about have nothing to do with Immortal aside from JJ, their storyline pacing, or even for the most part who's being pushed aside from a few glaringly obvious snafus.</div></blockquote> Fair enough. I apologise for making any insinuations. <p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="PeterHilton" data-cite="PeterHilton" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> The people in this thread who are complaining are complaining because it's been the same set of issues for years.</p></div></blockquote> So I've been told.

[maskedpropaganda]

Heard something today that made me think. Was informed that the finances of TNA are being taken out of Dixie's hand and given to her mother???? This decision was made due to the overpayment of Mikey James (she makes quarter of a million a year and with future house show loops maybe probably being canceled that is a TON of money PPA). This was told to me fourth hand though. Someone to Brian Knobbs, then to Jamie, then to me. If this is true maybe TNA won't buy their death by giving overrated for name value contracts to X-WWEr's though. I expect a good bit of cuts if someone else is taking over cashflow.

[Stennick]

<p>Dixie's mom taking over the finance side best I can tell is a rumor at this point. I haven't heard anyone credible mention it that I'm aware of.</p><p> </p><p>

Honestly I'm over the whole TNA is spending too much on these guys. They just dumped Sting and Nash's contracts so thats a lot of money gone there. I think Hemme is about to be gone as well so thats another big money off the pay roll.</p><p> </p><p>

Oh and to Hashasheen, Team 3D are NOT retiring at Turning Point they just signed new contracts its a storyline their not going anywhere. As a matter of fact a lot of people wanted them gone since they add very little to the shows now days but Dixie re upped them anyway. Current rumors have them doing singles runs as heel and face and possibly feud with one another. No matter their plans they just reupped.</p>

[Hashasheen]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Oh and to Hashasheen, Team 3D are NOT retiring at Turning Point they just signed new contracts its a storyline their not going anywhere. As a matter of fact a lot of people wanted them gone since they add very little to the shows now days but Dixie re upped them anyway. Current rumors have them doing singles runs as heel and face and possibly feud with one another. No matter their plans they just reupped.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> They could just be working as road-agents. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Hyde Hill]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="maskedpropaganda" data-cite="maskedpropaganda" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Heard something today that made me think. Was informed that the finances of TNA are being taken out of Dixie's hand and given to her mother???? This decision was made due to the overpayment of Mikey James (she makes quarter of a million a year and with future house show loops maybe probably being canceled that is a TON of money PPA). This was told to me fourth hand though. Someone to Brian Knobbs, then to Jamie, then to me. If this is true maybe TNA won't buy their death by giving overrated for name value contracts to X-WWEr's though. I expect a good bit of cuts if someone else is taking over cashflow.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Heard this rumour (the money take over) a couple of days ago. Don't know if it's because of Mickey though. Hmm who could have been to ones to tell Knobbs if its true lolz. Anyway Panda have been assisting TNA on the financial and legal side ever since they took over, but actually getting the purse strings is different. </p><p> </p><p> Thing is it seems with the cut house shows etc they are thinking short term efficiency ahead of long term growth again.</p>

[Hyde Hill]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hashasheen" data-cite="Hashasheen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>They could just be working as road-agents. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Let's hope so (not that they would be good) but if that is not the case then that is a clear example of some of the policy that people are sick off. TNA has all the potential in the world and has a lot of good things going for them but until they cut out the crap I am not coming back.</p>

[haloed]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> They just dumped Sting and Nash's contracts so thats a lot of money gone there. .<p> </p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I know Nash is done. But I haven't heard or read anything about Sting not coming back eventually?</p>

[crownsy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>- Eric Bischoff was recently asked on his Facebook what he thought of the Nexus angle, here is his answer… Boring as hell. pw insider</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not that i disagree totally, though i have liked some segments the nexus has produced (mostly wade barret promo's, the one where he dared Cena to hit him and ended with "until next week....you can't see me, John")</p><p> </p><p> but pot-kettle-black much Eric?</p><p> </p><p> I wouldn't really be calling a Pack of wolves heel stable boring when you are currently overseeing an angle that involves you, hulk hogan, and jeff jarret as the people I'm supposed to care about in the year 2010.</p><p> </p><p> I'm only shocked you haven't dug up Buff bagwell and Horace Hogan yet to complete the suck quintuple.</p>

[Basmat01]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hyde Hill" data-cite="Hyde Hill" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Heard this rumour (the money take over) a couple of days ago. Don't know if it's because of Mickey though. <strong>Hmm who could have been to ones to tell Knobbs if its true lolz</strong>. Anyway Panda have been assisting TNA on the financial and legal side ever since they took over, but actually getting the purse strings is different. <p> </p><p> Thing is it seems with the cut house shows etc they are thinking short term efficiency ahead of long term growth again.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Isnt Knobbs really good mates with Hogan?</p>

[Hyde Hill]

Hehe yep that was who I was implying.

[Stennick]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="haloed" data-cite="haloed" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I know Nash is done. But I haven't heard or read anything about Sting not coming back eventually?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> His contracts are only on a one year basis and usually he takes 4-6 months of that year off anyway. The contract runs out in December of every year and always says he's not going to return but TNA somehow convinces him to.</p><p> </p><p> After the first set of tapings after Immortal he went home and supposedly informed them he was done. There is talk if he is done bringing him in for WCW's HOF ceremony at WM in Atlanta. </p><p> </p><p> So if they were to cut Team 3D, Sting, Nash, some of the ECW guys that would be a lot of money coming off the books and I would think that going forward next year they would be in better financial shape anyway.</p><p> </p><p> On a side note I don't think Team 3D are going to be road agents, if that was the case then why would the boys in the back be upset about them getting resigned and with supposedly even management against resigning them why would Dixie go against everything and resign them for what I can imagine is a decent amount of money only to stick them backstage. Some controversial ending will hapen at Turning Point or Devon will lose the match and Bubba will turn on him claiming "he cost them the chance to retire as tag team champions"</p><p> </p><p> Also it was under my impression they were running a profit. Seems weird that when Dixie finally gets into the black after years in the red that Panda would then lose faith. Again it would be like a head coach getting a couple of winning seasons after turning around from some bad losing ones and then getting fired. Seems strange is all.</p>

[cappyboy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Also it was under my impression they were running a profit. Seems weird that when Dixie finally gets into the black after years in the red that Panda would then lose faith. Again it would be like a head coach getting a couple of winning seasons after turning around from some bad losing ones and then getting fired. Seems strange is all.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I read this part and two words come to mind even if there only tangentially related.</p><p> </p><p> Marty. Shottenheimer.</p>

[haloed]

<p>I saw the rumors of Sting going to WWE for the HOF but they're just rumors. Honestly him showing up in WWE even just for the HOF would almost be more surreal than Vince McMahon showing up on the last Nitro or Hogan showing up in TNA. </p><p> </p><p>

He definately would deserve the recognition from WWE for the HOF because he's the only true WCW wrestlers left that has never appeared in WWE. Plus during the height of the nWo, he was the most over wrestler in the world and he never said one word. So it would be cool for him to show up for the HOF but at the same time it would be awesome for him to stick to his guns and stay away from them like he always has before. </p><p> </p><p>

Me, I kinda think he'll be back in TNA. Its easy money for him at this point.</p>

[jwt13]

Sting will never go to WWE he has stated that before

[Stennick]

<p>TNA is easy money but a HOF induction, a licensing deal with the WWE, some figurines, a DVD set or two, that could be just as much money and even easier money. </p><p> </p><p>

I really think Sting not going to the WWE/F isn't that big of a deal. He stated before he wouldn't go there because of his Christian values but he's became good friends with Shawn Michaels appearing on Christian shows together. On top of the WWF/E being PG again. </p><p> </p><p>

Its not like Sting is going to partake in any angles just more or less sign his likeness over to them for a few years and cash in on the DVD's, Figurines, HOF, and maybe make an odd appearance or two. Who knows what he'll do but I have to think just one Wrestlemania match could be a huge pay day for him. </p><p> </p><p>

As the biggest WCW fan in the world, I have come to grips with the fact that in ten years nobody will remember WCW or they will remember the WCW their told to remember. Who remembers the AWA? It will be essentially the same thing. So I say hanging your hat on being a WCW wrestler is not the way to go if you want to be remembered forever and lets face it if you're in pro wrestling you want to be remembered forever.</p>

[PeterHilton]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>His contracts are only on a one year basis and usually he takes 4-6 months of that year off anyway. The contract runs out in December of every year and always says he's not going to return but TNA somehow convinces him to.<p> </p><p> After the first set of tapings after Immortal he went home and supposedly informed them he was done. There is talk if he is done bringing him in for WCW's HOF ceremony at WM in Atlanta. </p><p> </p><p> So if they were to cut Team 3D, Sting, Nash, some of the ECW guys that would be a lot of money coming off the books and I would think that going forward next year they would be in better financial shape anyway.</p><p> </p><p> On a side note I don't think Team 3D are going to be road agents, if that was the case then why would the boys in the back be upset about them getting resigned and with supposedly even management against resigning them why would Dixie go against everything and resign them for what I can imagine is a decent amount of money only to stick them backstage. Some controversial ending will hapen at Turning Point or Devon will lose the match and Bubba will turn on him claiming "he cost them the chance to retire as tag team champions"</p><p> </p><p> Also it was under my impression they were running a profit. Seems weird that when Dixie finally gets into the black after years in the red that Panda would then lose faith. Again it would be like a head coach getting a couple of winning seasons after turning around from some bad losing ones and then getting fired. Seems strange is all.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Dammit i was reading along ready to comment and then Stnnick pretty much summed up..<img alt=":mad:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/mad.png.69834f23b9a8bf290d98375f56f1c794.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Yeah essentially..we've been hearing for a while TNA is in the black. This is odd timing as far as the financial rumors.</p><p> </p><p> Also...why would you throw money at 3D to stick them in back? If anything THAT would be a dumber decision than their recent signings.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="crownsy" data-cite="crownsy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not that i disagree totally, though i have liked some segments the nexus has produced (mostly wade barret promo's, the one where he dared Cena to hit him and ended with "until next week....you can't see me, John")<p> </p><p> but pot-kettle-black much Eric?</p><p> </p><p> I wouldn't really be calling a Pack of wolves heel stable boring when you are currently overseeing an angle that involves you, hulk hogan, and jeff jarret as the people I'm supposed to care about in the year 2010.</p><p> </p><p> I'm only shocked you haven't dug up Buff bagwell and Horace Hogan yet to complete the suck quintuple.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah..Eric is a jack ass.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jwt13" data-cite="jwt13" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Sting will never go to WWE he has stated that before</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>TNA is easy money but a HOF induction, a licensing deal with the WWE, some figurines, a DVD set or two, that could be just as much money and even easier money. <p> </p><p> I really think Sting not going to the WWE/F isn't that big of a deal. He stated before he wouldn't go there because of his Christian values but he's became good friends with Shawn Michaels appearing on Christian shows together. On top of the WWF/E being PG again. </p><p> </p><p> Its not like Sting is going to partake in any angles just more or less sign his likeness over to them for a few years and cash in on the DVD's, Figurines, HOF, and maybe make an odd appearance or two. Who knows what he'll do but I have to think just one Wrestlemania match could be a huge pay day for him. </p><p> </p><p> As the biggest WCW fan in the world, I have come to grips with the fact that in ten years nobody will remember WCW or they will remember the WCW their told to remember. Who remembers the AWA? It will be essentially the same thing. So I say hanging your hat on being a WCW wrestler is not the way to go if you want to be remembered forever and lets face it if you're in pro wrestling you want to be remembered forever.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Again...totally agree here. </p><p> </p><p> What exactly would Sting have to complain about in terms of WWE's product? Hasn't TNA been about 100 times more 'un-Christian' over the last few years than the E has</p><p> </p><p> TNA is running angles with tons of blood, semi-nudity, sexual overtones, bisexual threesomes, and lots of curse words.</p><p> </p><p> That whole "Sting won't go because he's Christian" thing just doesn't hold water any more.</p>

[BurningHamster]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="PeterHilton" data-cite="PeterHilton" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That whole "Sting won't go because he's Christian" thing just doesn't hold water any more.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Maybe he just really doesn't want to have to be in the same company as Michael Cole.</p>

[Jaysin]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BurningHamster" data-cite="BurningHamster" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Maybe he just really doesn't want to have to be in the same company as Michael Cole.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's the best reason ever</p>

[SaySo]

<p>Sting could always release his TNA greatest hits DVD and not showing anything before 2002.</p><p> </p><p>

I bet he'll make more money there than ones the WWE can create.</p>

[PeterHilton]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="SaySo" data-cite="SaySo" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Sting could always release his TNA greatest hits DVD and not showing anything before 2002.<p> </p><p> I bet he'll make more money there than ones the WWE can create.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Really? You REALLY think that a "TNA matches only" DVD would generate more revenue than the DVD WWE could put out?</p><p> </p><p> WWE DVDs are regularly listed on the top selling sports DVDs lists for Amazon every year TNA never has.</p><p> </p><p> But a TNA release would outsell a WWE release? One would feature matches where Sting is at least a decade past his prime versus wrestlers the vast majority of the audience don't know. And one would feature Sting versus every major star in WCW ...and include footage from the hottest angle during the Monday Night Wars (Crow Sting vs Hogan and the nWo) and a bunch of matches that haven't been released yet. </p><p> </p><p> But that's what you're saying...Best of TNA outsells Sting: The Glory Years?</p><p> </p><p> Okaaaaayyyyyyy <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Hyde Hill]

<p>I think the Christian values thing was more a secondary consideration. He was more worried he would not be used right just as other pure WCW talent where and have to do the heavy schedule. Just the HOF with a licensing and DVD and maybe book deal and maybe one last match would be the most profitable exit possible if he is really hanging up the boots.</p><p> </p><p>

Me I think Nash and Sting are still under contract with TNA and will return. Nash is working the net imho.</p>

[Jaysin]

I know in one interview, a comment The Rock made to Booker T backstage was something that rubbed Sting the wrong way. Something like Rock looking at Booker going "Who the hell are you?".

 

I'm not saying that's why he didn't go to WWE, I'm just saying that's one of the things Sting said in an interview a few years ago.

[Slagaholic]

I want to see Sting vs Taker at WrestleMania. If I have to burn down an orphanage as a sacrifice to the wrestling gods I will do it.

[Moe Hunter]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I know in one interview, a comment The Rock made to Booker T backstage was something that rubbed Sting the wrong way. Something like Rock looking at Booker going "Who the hell are you?". <p> </p><p> I'm not saying that's why he didn't go to WWE, I'm just saying that's one of the things Sting said in an interview a few years ago.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It wasn't backstage. It was a scripted segment we all saw. Sting saw it on TV like the rest of us. Hell, two of The Rock's catchphrases were "Who in the Blue Hell are you?" and "It doesn't matter what your name is". Sting apparently didn't understand that, and thought that he would be "buried" if he went to WWE.</p>

[Charasmatic Enigma]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Moe Hunter" data-cite="Moe Hunter" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It wasn't backstage. It was a scripted segment we all saw. Sting saw it on TV like the rest of us. Hell, two of The Rock's catchphrases were "Who in the Blue Hell are you?" and "It doesn't matter what your name is". Sting apparently didn't understand that, and thought that he would be "buried" if he went to WWE.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfyzKKmqMLc" rel="external nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfyzKKmqMLc</a></p><p> </p><p> It runs from 45 seconds into that video. It was Booker T's first promo in the WWE if I recall, and Sting says on a WCW DVD that after seeing the promo he thought all former WCW workers would just be jobbed out to WWE stars.</p>