The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

[bigtplaystew]

<p>What if Bully gets the belt back in 8-10 weeks, right in time for BFG and we get the classic babyface vs Bully match anyway? What if Sabin and Bully end up in an epic feud? Their match was pretty damn good I'd watch more. What if Bully losing causes a rampage that makes Aces and Eights (who've gotten a touch stale) a bit more dangerous and scary again?</p><p> </p><p>

What if they focus on Anderson/Magnus/Joe/Styles now for the four man final of the series? It would play off of Anderson and Bully's power struggle, Joe and Magnus' tension within the MEM, and Styles' brooding desire to be on top again.</p><p> </p><p>

I mean there's a lot of ways they can go from here. If anything this booking decision makes things a little less predictable and a little more interesting than if Bully just cheats himself to victory all the way through October until the predictable babyface vs top heel match at BFG.</p>

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="bigtplaystew" data-cite="bigtplaystew" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What if Bully gets the belt back in 8-10 weeks, right in time for BFG and we get the classic babyface vs Bully match anyway? What if Sabin and Bully end up in an epic feud? Their match was pretty damn good I'd watch more. What if Bully losing causes a rampage that makes Aces and Eights (who've gotten a touch stale) a bit more dangerous and scary again?<p> </p><p> What if they focus on Anderson/Magnus/Joe/Styles now for the four man final of the series? It would play off of Anderson and Bully's power struggle, Joe and Magnus' tension within the MEM, and Styles' brooding desire to be on top again.</p><p> </p><p> I mean there's a lot of ways they can go from here. If anything this booking decision makes things a little less predictable and a little more interesting than if Bully just cheats himself to victory all the way through October until the predictable babyface vs top heel match at BFG.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Of course. Like i said, it can be good if they have a good plan and thought it through. But it's TNA...so...one must be suspicious. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Active Jerichoholic]

<p>I agree with you guys, I'm really interested to see how this goes. Personally I'd love to see Sabin and AJ go at it, especially if Hogan's gonna face Bully at BFG.</p><p> </p><p>

Also, Chris Sabin's basement is the new Dungeon apparently <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Active Jerichoholic" data-cite="Active Jerichoholic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I agree with you guys, I'm really interested to see how this goes. Personally I'd love to see Sabin and AJ go at it, especially if Hogan's gonna face Bully at BFG.<p> </p><p> <strong>Also, Chris Sabin's basement is the new Dungeon apparently</strong> <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Really? Since when? Please elaborate, this is news to me.</p>

[Active Jerichoholic]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels 82" data-cite="shawn michaels 82" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Really? Since when? Please elaborate, this is news to me.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It was a joke <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> just because he always talks about that being where he trained while he was hurt. Well there and the University of Michigan for a little while. Since he's kayfabe so much better now, I couldn't help thinking that must be why. Or Denard Robinson taught him stuff (sorry, only recent Michigan athlete I can think of haha)</p>

[Teh_Showtime]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels 82" data-cite="shawn michaels 82" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Come on. The correct way to end his reign woukd have been at BFG. This takes a lot of value to what was a great run.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not really. He is still far and away the biggest heel in the company and leader of Aces and Eights. His TV time wont be reduced nor will his relevance.</p>

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not really. He is still far and away the biggest heel in the company and leader of Aces and Eights. His TV time wont be reduced nor will his relevance.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> True. But TNA is know for some twists and turns that don't end up that well. Just reminding that, but hoping they have a good plan.</p>

[Fleisch]

I'm still not sure on whether Sabin being champion is good or not. On one hand I like the fact TNA have put the belt on someone you wouldn't really expect them to - and Sabin is pretty deserving of the belt, but on the other hand I really enjoyed Bully Ray as champion. I'm just going to see where they go with it - hopefully there will be a few more twists before BFG.

[Rone Rivendale]

Am I the only one who really hopes they bring back "Hail Sabin" as his entrance theme now that he is the World champion? <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

[The Final Countdown]

Am I the only one who really hopes they bring back "Hail Sabin" as his entrance theme now that he is the World champion?

Isn't the song he uses now just a newer version of that one?

[sebsplex]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Final Countdown" data-cite="The Final Countdown" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Isn't the song he uses now just a newer version of that one?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Seems like a completely new song, just with the old intro. Personally, my favourite version was the one that basically ripped 311's Offbeat Bare-Ass.</p><p> </p><p> As for Sabin as champion. Tbh, I don't have a real problem with it, it just seems a strange choice of time and method for having him capture the belt. As Self posted earlier, the use of Aries in the build felt like a poor choice, because Aries slipping in to Destination X under the rader made for a better story for me, rather than Sabin just overcoming the 'injustice' the next week - setting Aries up as the type of maverick Hogan et al would be forced to back into taking on Bully, knowing he was a good shot to retake the belt as Aries is alway 'sizing things up' and would find a way to do it no matter what corners he had to cut. Then you just allow Aries ego to get the better of him and have Bully take back the belt in time for BFG if indeed, he's to do so.</p><p> </p><p> But yeah, I like Sabin. I'm not convinced he has enough about him to be 'the man' in the company for a meaningful amount of time, but given the focus is sure to be on A&8s vs MEM and the BFG series, it's as good a time as any to use a short-term champion. If I'm honest, I'm getting an air of Christian's post-Edge WWE title win about this and wouldn't be surprised if the belt is back on Bully within 1-2 weeks. We'll see.</p>

[bigtplaystew]

<p>I definitely loved the Aries/Suicide promo. I thought that was epic. I thought it was brilliant crowd control. I thought the idea and the execution were too bad ass.</p><p> </p><p>

I definitely think it's a perfect example of the different between TNA and WWE. TNA seems committed to long term booking whereas WWE flip flops all the time and is far more adaptable.</p><p> </p><p>

This has has pluses and minuses for both. I think TNA's long term booking over the last several months has been (for the most part) great. You can pick out a few example of dumb stuff they chose, but they've mostly had long builds with payoffs... something WWE almost never does anymore.</p><p> </p><p>

On the other hand, it's obvious the Sabin/Aries/Bully situation leading into Destination X was a long term plan. I feel like WWE would have felt the huge buzz coming from that Aries promo and switched things up. I think Aries/Bully pulls much bigger numbers after that promo than Sabin/Bully.</p><p> </p><p>

That said, I think it's kind of cool that TNA stayed committed to giving Sabin a shot at the top. They almost seem to have said, "Nope, we think he's great. We think he can pull five star matches from top level guys. We want to build him up to be believable there". And they did it. They didn't just swtich things up like the 'E would have based on a flash-in-the-pan reaction. They stuck to their guns and I think Sabin/Bully ended up being a pretty darn good storyline match for what it was. I thought Destination X was a great TV show. I really do. I think they've got some really great stuff going on right now.</p>

[Warhawk8492]

While TNA is having money problems they are FAR superior to WWE in terms of product. I can't stand the current WWE product, I only bother with RAW and Smackdown for CM Punk and Bryan Danielson.

[Teh_Showtime]

<p>It sucks that you feel that way because imo Raw has been kicking the hell out of TNA the past few months</p><p> </p><p>

TNA overall is a far cry from last summer when I considered it must see TV</p>

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Warhawk8492" data-cite="Warhawk8492" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>While TNA is having money problems they are FAR superior to WWE in terms of product. I can't stand the current WWE product, I only bother with RAW and Smackdown for CM Punk and Bryan Danielson.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> TNA "reportedly" has money problems every year, since they achtually had money problems in 2008 or 2010, or something along those lines. Since than, it's always been unconfirmed rumours. Cutting back on costs and a bloated roster at a time of investment, where they are taking Impact on the road is good business policy. The kind of policy that ECW/WCW should have followed. Until someone actually produces proof that they are really having bad money issues, i see no reason for alarms.</p>

[liontamer]

<p>Enjoyed the "Big Sexy/Kevin nash" chants for the lawyer as that was my first thought as well. Ultimate X was ok, but what the heck are they going to do when someone screws up and seriously gets hurt?</p><p> </p><p>

Also when did they change the X title? I hadn't noticed until last night.</p><p> </p><p>

Still surprised Sabin won. I would have preferred Aries kept it and challenged. After Sabin got it back, I fully expected Rampage to turn on the mafia and cost Sabin the title.</p>

[Rone Rivendale]

Misawa died after a routine back suplex. You can't worry about the danger when you are in the ring. When you are a wrestler you go into the match knowing there is a risk of injury or worse. You just have to do your best to protect your opponent and hope that he/she is doing the same for you.

[Rickymex]

I'm think a MITB match is more dangerous than the Ultimate X match.

[Swagger]

<p>I think the spots in the MITB dictate how dangerous it is. The risks are more "built-in", so to speak, in Ultimate X.</p><p> </p><p>

Fun match though.</p>

[Rickymex]

I just think they have more control falling from the wire and the stage than from ladders. Just like Sheamus fall where he landed on his leg compared to falling flat on your back from the wire.

[Jaysin]

Anyone have any predictions for the August 1st Warning video?

 

In the video they claim they don't work for TNA or Spike TV, so it's either a indy guy or a former WWE guy. My initial guess is Adam Pearce, but my unrealistic, wshful thinking, "god I hope it's him" guess is Krimson.

 

If you haven't seen it, it's here.

[Big Roguey]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Anyone have any predictions for the August 1st Warning video?<p> </p><p> In the video they claim they don't work for TNA or Spike TV, so it's either a indy guy or a former WWE guy. My initial guess is Adam Pearce, but my unrealistic, wshful thinking, "god I hope it's him" guess is Krimson. </p><p> </p><p> If you haven't seen it, it's here.</p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo" contenteditable="false"><div><iframe width="200" height="113" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/hrFJKHhVQPE?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" title="Who is behind #August1Warning?"></iframe></div></div></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> For some reason part of me is thinking Devitt & a variation of Bullet Club. He's been on Twitter saying how he is going to make an impact and such.</p><p> </p><p> Knowing TNA though it will be uneventful and unexciting.</p>

[Basmat01]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Anyone have any predictions for the August 1st Warning video?<p> </p><p> In the video they claim they don't work for TNA or Spike TV, so it's either a indy guy or a former WWE guy. My initial guess is Adam Pearce, but my unrealistic, wshful thinking, "god I hope it's him" guess is Krimson. </p><p> </p><p> If you haven't seen it, it's here.</p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo"><div><iframe width="200" height="113" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/hrFJKHhVQPE?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="" title="Who is behind #August1Warning?"></iframe></div></div></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think Crimson is injured saw it on gerwick earlier today.</p><p> </p><p> I putting it out there but I'm guessing MVP.</p><p> </p><p> With all the cost cutting why sign someone else?</p>

[Jaysin]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Basmat01" data-cite="Basmat01" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think Crimson is injured saw it on gerwick earlier today.<p> </p><p> I putting it out there but I'm guessing MVP.</p><p> </p><p> With all the cost cutting why sign someone else?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Krimson, not Crimson. Two different people. Krimson is Conrad Kennedy III's current gimmick. Easily one of my favorite characters in wrestling in a long time. He's been doing it for a few years now and before TNA's "Crimson".</p><p> </p><p> </p><div class="ipsEmbeddedVideo" contenteditable="false"><div><iframe width="200" height="113" src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/er-jS87Y0PM?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" title="PRIME Archive: Krimson - The Broken Mirror"></iframe></div></div>

[Rickymex]

Bald Guy with huge ears? Low-Ki/Senshi/Kaval