The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

[Fleisch]

<p>Paige and Del Rio's toxic relationship bores me so....</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

I just read Moose has signed a new deal with GFW. Not big news but he did way he was the best wrestler that has come from football (or words to those effect). I hope that is just his character talking because I can think of a few better ones (Ron Simmons for a start). Anyway, discuss!</p>

[Warhawk8492]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fleisch" data-cite="Fleisch" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Paige and Del Rio's toxic relationship bores me so....<p> </p><p> </p><p> I just read Moose has signed a new deal with GFW. Not big news but he did way he was the best wrestler that has come from football (or words to those effect). I hope that is just his character talking because I can think of a few better ones (Ron Simmons for a start). Anyway, discuss!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Cool that Moose signed a new deal, he is very good.</p>

[jwt13]

I have a new wrestling sub reddit that is a place away from some of the bigger community that is focused on being a lot more open minded on different companies and show and would love for you guys to come and join us! <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/TheWorldofWrestling/" rel="external nofollow">https://www.reddit.com/r/TheWorldofWrestling/</a>

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fleisch" data-cite="Fleisch" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Paige and Del Rio's toxic relationship bores me so....<p> </p><p> </p><p> I just read Moose has signed a new deal with GFW. Not big news but he did way he was the best wrestler that has come from football (or words to those effect). I hope that is just his character talking because I can think of a few better ones (Ron Simmons for a start). Anyway, discuss!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Or even Big Cat Ernie Ladd who had a strong NFL career and a strong career as a proven draw in wrestling. I like Moose but he is nowhere near the level of Ron or Ernie yet.</p>

[Rone Rivendale]

Mojo Rawley. Duh. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

[Jaysin]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fleisch" data-cite="Fleisch" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Paige and Del Rio's toxic relationship bores me so....<p> </p><p> </p><p> I just read Moose has signed a new deal with GFW. Not big news but he did way he was the best wrestler that has come from football (or words to those effect). I hope that is just his character talking because I can think of a few better ones (Ron Simmons for a start). Anyway, discuss!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ron Simmons</p><p> Ernie Ladd</p><p> Goldberg</p><p> Brian Pillman </p><p> </p><p> and those are just off the top of my head. I doubt Moose will ever reach any of their levels.</p>

[cappyboy]

Add Chief Wahoo McDaniel to that list. Ironically enough he was a receiver for the expansion Dallas Cowboys back in 1960

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cappyboy" data-cite="cappyboy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Add Chief Wahoo McDaniel to that list. Ironically enough he was a receiver for the expansion Dallas Cowboys back in 1960</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I cannot believe I forgot Wahoo. I have one more...Bronko Nagurski. Heck he beat Lou Thesz back then, that shows us just how good or popular he was.</p>

[Kitarzu]

<p>I add one more name from the past, Leo Nomellini.</p><p> </p><p>

It's probably easier to count how many better succeed than Moose than failed. How do you rate him? Above Average/Good? Personally I'm that range.</p>

[BHK1978]

I add one more name from the past, Leo Nomellini.

 

It's probably easier to count how many better succeed than Moose than failed. How do you rate him? Above Average/Good? Personally I'm that range.

 

I would agree with your assessment. Moose does not seem to be all that great on the microphone either.

 

I actually met Moose last year at a Ring of Honor show. He was in the parking lot and I talked to him for like a minute or so. He seemed like a nice guy. But then again anyone can seem nice if you only talk to them for a minute so that is not really a strong basis for judging anyone.

[Mootinie]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I would agree with your assessment. Moose does not seem to be all that great on the microphone either.<p> </p><p> I actually met Moose last year at a Ring of Honor show. He was in the parking lot and I talked to him for like a minute or so. He seemed like a nice guy. But then again anyone can seem nice if you only talk to them for a minute so that is not really a strong basis for judging anyone.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> He stopped to talk to you and gave you some of his time, that's already more of a courtesy than a lot of wrestlers would offer you.</p>

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mootinie" data-cite="Mootinie" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>He stopped to talk to you and gave you some of his time, that's already more of a courtesy than a lot of wrestlers would offer you.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hence why I said he seemed like a nice guy. I am not getting what the issue is here. If you made your response post because of the last bit I wrote, then I will tell you why I did it.</p><p> </p><p> My reason was twofold. One because it is true. He seemed like a nice person but just because he took the time to talk to me does not mean that is the case. I mean by all accounts O.J. Simpson comes across as a nice, charming person. However, a nice person does not do what he did. I am not comparing the two to each other, I am just using an extreme to prove a point.</p><p> </p><p> The other reason why I wrote that was because I did not want someone coming on here and saying the opposite of what you said. I did not want someone to say, "You talked to the guy for a minute. How can you make that assessment that he is a nice guy?" For me it was a preemptive strike so I would not have to respond to that type of post. Because more often than not, those are the type of crazy responses my posts tend to illicit on this site.<img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Mootinie]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hence why I said he seemed like a nice guy. I am not getting what the issue is here. If you made your response post because of the last bit I wrote, then I will tell you why I did it.<p> </p><p> My reason was twofold. One because it is true. He seemed like a nice person but just because he took the time to talk to me does not mean that is the case. I mean by all accounts O.J. Simpson comes across as a nice, charming person. However, a nice person does not do what he did. I am not comparing the two to each other, I am just using an extreme to prove a point.</p><p> </p><p> The other reason why I wrote that was because I did not want someone coming on here and saying the opposite of what you said. I did not want someone to say, "You talked to the guy for a minute. How can you make that assessment that he is a nice guy?" For me it was a preemptive strike so I would not have to respond to that type of post. Because more often than not, those are the type of crazy responses my posts tend to illicit on this site.<img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> There is no issue. I was agreeing with you that him stopping to talk to you, even if it was only for a short while, was nice of him. It was nice for him to extend that courtesy. I know of a lot of wrestlers that wouldn't.</p>

[CQI13]

No chance this was being said in character?

[Phreak]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fleisch" data-cite="Fleisch" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Paige and Del Rio's toxic relationship bores me so....<p> </p><p> </p><p> I just read Moose has signed a new deal with GFW. Not big news but he did way he was the best wrestler that has come from football (or words to those effect). I hope that is just his character talking because I can think of a few better ones (Ron Simmons for a start). Anyway, discuss!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> THE Rock... Billy Goldberg...</p><p> </p><p> You betta' than Goldberg, son? <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mootinie" data-cite="Mootinie" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There is no issue. I was agreeing with you that him stopping to talk to you, even if it was only for a short while, was nice of him. It was nice for him to extend that courtesy. I know of a lot of wrestlers that wouldn't.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I apologize. I sometimes misread or take things out of context and this was one of those times. </p><p> </p><p> <strong>@Phreak:</strong> Good point. He probably should have said something about being the best player to have a semi-lengthy career in the NFL. But then again that would not be the truth either.<img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[cappyboy]

Okay guys, here's one for you. Moose or Mongo?

 

 

In ring, I'd say Moose. I don't see him ever been iconic or anything. But he does seem pretty good for a late comer. Mongo had already started breaking down physically when he started wrestling. So it doesn't feel completely like apples to apples. But it's the sample of each we have.

 

For personality skills, I'd say Mongo. Whatever his limits may have been in the ring, I always felt McMichael projected himself well on the stick. Moose has always felt like he's speaking because he has to not because he wants to. As long as Moose was in RoH, that was okay. The mic isn't their focus anyway. But now that he's in more an entertainment minded product, that's a pretty glaring weakness for a guy to have. Shame managers can't be as meaningful as a Bobby Heenan or Jimmy Hart used to be. Moose is clearly a guy who would benefit from that arrangement.

[Jaysin]

Mongo was terrible in the ring and even worse on the mic. Heenan and Bischoff seemed to barely tolerate his existence on commentary. Many times he'd say something stupid and there'd be awkward silence and then the subject would change. Even David Otunga and Josh Mathews shine compared to him.

 

If professional wrestling ever comes to an end, he should be ranked as one of the worst ever period.

 

He was a clumsy oaf in the ring and on the mic.

[Blackman]

<p>Just seen some highlights of the recent PPV. Has Cornette been with TNA long? Kinda weird to see him there not very soon after blasting the promotion on WWE tv and on social media. </p><p> </p><p>

Does make me want to watch this again. Or maybe not... <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Fleisch]

<p>Not sure what I watched. Destination X was an absolute cluster[ahem] of a show. It was as if someone threw it together last minute with a roll of the dice and some names in a hat with no thought and no reasoning. Their "surprise" appearances shows they were trying to capture a cheap "Oh my God!" moment. Unfortunately all I was left saying was "WTF is going on? I don't get it..."</p><p> </p><p>

Jim Cornette "firing" Bruce Prichard before Quasi-Shooting on "outside" wrestlers not earning their title shots... er... ok. Announcement that a new champion will be crowned NEXT week (not this week on the Destination X event, oh no... next week on another heart pounding, cluster[ahem] episode of the Global Force Total Nonstop Action Impact Wrestling show)! Oh and lets not forget LAX coming out and Konnan saying he could get "a cup of soup and a honey bun for Cornettes fine white ass" Is Konnan's gimmick going to be the Latin American contingent for the LGBT in GFW? Or is he playing a prison pimp who is going to be trading produce off the backs of rape and sodomy? This segment really just makes no sense whatsoever to me.</p><p> </p><p>

Taryn Terrell costing Gail Kim her match against Sienna... what? So Gail Kim will retire after defeating the "Born Again" former Hot Mess, Taryn Terrell who comes in as a heel... didn't she say something about that being bad for her new found religion a year or two ago? I was a fan of Taryn during her first run with the company as she worked hard to improve her in ring style and try to get away from the "I'm blonde, hot and scream a lot when hit" cliche but I feel Gail should have one last hurrah with the belt before Sienna takes it off her again. Gail Kim already said she is retiring so there is no real rub for anyone who beats her to "make" her retire.</p><p> </p><p>

Petey Williams helping out Sonjay Dutt... I can't even. This made as much sense as taking a blind man to see a silent movie. Although he'd probably still enjoy it more than the crap this company threw together.</p><p> </p><p>

A main event that consisted of Bobby Lashley vs. Matt Sydal for the... no wait, the main belt wasn't in play. The main event was basically a normal match that had no real pay off... a bit like Anthems purchase of TNA is going to be for the companies bottom line "profit" (or lack thereof).</p><p> </p><p>

I find myself shaking my head alot regarding GFWTNAI more and more with every "big reveal" that turns out to be a small footnote in the companies history and indecisive name change.</p>

[Warhawk8492]

Not sure what I watched. Destination X was an absolute cluster[ahem] of a show. It was as if someone threw it together last minute with a roll of the dice and some names in a hat with no thought and no reasoning. Their "surprise" appearances shows they were trying to capture a cheap "Oh my God!" moment. Unfortunately all I was left saying was "WTF is going on? I don't get it..."

 

Jim Cornette "firing" Bruce Prichard before Quasi-Shooting on "outside" wrestlers not earning their title shots... er... ok. Announcement that a new champion will be crowned NEXT week (not this week on the Destination X event, oh no... next week on another heart pounding, cluster[ahem] episode of the Global Force Total Nonstop Action Impact Wrestling show)! Oh and lets not forget LAX coming out and Konnan saying he could get "a cup of soup and a honey bun for Cornettes fine white ass" Is Konnan's gimmick going to be the Latin American contingent for the LGBT in GFW? Or is he playing a prison pimp who is going to be trading produce off the backs of rape and sodomy? This segment really just makes no sense whatsoever to me.

 

Taryn Terrell costing Gail Kim her match against Sienna... what? So Gail Kim will retire after defeating the "Born Again" former Hot Mess, Taryn Terrell who comes in as a heel... didn't she say something about that being bad for her new found religion a year or two ago? I was a fan of Taryn during her first run with the company as she worked hard to improve her in ring style and try to get away from the "I'm blonde, hot and scream a lot when hit" cliche but I feel Gail should have one last hurrah with the belt before Sienna takes it off her again. Gail Kim already said she is retiring so there is no real rub for anyone who beats her to "make" her retire.

 

Petey Williams helping out Sonjay Dutt... I can't even. This made as much sense as taking a blind man to see a silent movie. Although he'd probably still enjoy it more than the crap this company threw together.

 

A main event that consisted of Bobby Lashley vs. Matt Sydal for the... no wait, the main belt wasn't in play. The main event was basically a normal match that had no real pay off... a bit like Anthems purchase of TNA is going to be for the companies bottom line "profit" (or lack thereof).

 

I find myself shaking my head alot regarding GFWTNAI more and more with every "big reveal" that turns out to be a small footnote in the companies history and indecisive name change.

 

I enjoyed the show myself.

[milamber]

I'm not surprised. The roster is in flux again. Low-Ki killing it in the X Division and joining LAX only to quit the company, El Patron being stripped of the title, Rosemary competing overseas and all the controversy around that, Lashley juggling wrestling and MMA, Mundo and Taya coming in but maybe only short term depending on their AAA/LU contracts, too many authority figures. And using the TV Taping/PPV schedule just adds more chaos.

[CQI13]

Jarrett taking an indefinite leave. What a dumpster fire.

[milamber]

And GFW is bleeding money so Anthem are thinking of selling. I'm shocked <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

[Warhawk8492]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And GFW is bleeding money so Anthem are thinking of selling. I'm shocked <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> As long as the evil empire WWE does not buy them.</p>