ampulator Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 So apparently Brock wants out. Hmm. Typical really, but a real disappointment as someone who got into this thing initially out of intrigue to see how he got on. Still, guess I can thank him that my interest now stems beyond that, and it's probably better to step back than half ass it. But man, still disappointing. Although, Mir is no longer facing Schaub for unexplained reasons, which would point towards the TUF spot. Weird. First off, this is only a rumor, but if it's true, I'm not surprised. Brock has a history of leaving when things don't go his way. Hasn't anyone paid any attention his history with professional wrestling? He left the WWE because it didn't offer the schedule he wanted. He then went to football, but when it wouldn't let him play in the USA, he left that too. He then went to Japan to wrestle, but because he didn't want to leave the USA, he left that too (probably didn't like the stiffer style there, either). No one should be shocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted December 29, 2010 Author Share Posted December 29, 2010 First off, this is only a rumor, but if it's true, I'm not surprised. Brock has a history of leaving when things don't go his way. No one should be shocked. Completely agree. I was early on the bandwagon of MMA writers who were waiting for Brock to quit while the going was good, or as soon as he didn't get his own way. The fact is, he is a proven quitter - for whatever reason. He could have been an Olympian (he was practically guaranteed a spot on the US squad, as I understand it) but instead he bailed to make a quick buck in the WWF. When he realised the 'buck' in pro-wrestling is anything but quick (and especially not painless) he wanted out. Then he tried football, sorry, Gridiron ( ) and hopped off that train as soon as he didn't get picked for the starting squad of an NFL team at the first time of asking, despite having no football background to speak of. Then he goes to Japan, decides he doesn't like that. Fair enough. Finally he gets...favourably matched up en route to a UFC title (and I don't mean to diminish what he achieved - nobody has faced the same level of competition in their first 7 fights) and all of a sudden things go wrong again. Cain Velasquez teaches him the difference between someone who can fight good, and a good fighter. All of a sudden, whoops, he's thinking of calling it a day in favour of a bigger payday for less work. Now by all accounts this rumour is either A) hot air or B) a ploy to wrangle more money out of his promoter. I tend to fall on this side of the fence rather than him genuinely wanting out. But will he stick around after the second loss? The third? I wouldn't bet on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I don't think he wants out THAT bad. But he's made enough money... and is selfish enough, to not care about it. He knows if he quits, he can always find someone else to rehire him back, because he's just that damn good of a steal, even if he screwed them over before. He's one of the few people that screw the people at top, and THEY will be coming back for more if he says he's "interested" in working for them. I have no idea why he would want to come back to pro-wrestling, other than the money. He'll be one of the few that came back that would get the !@#$% booed out of him. Imagine the crap he got for getting into MMA, except worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesterx7769 Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Then he would be the perfect heel. If he is considering going back, he may figure hey, if I suck it up, wrestle once a month at the PPV, don't go over seas, I may be able to do this for 2/3 years to make enough money to retire for the rest of my life. While the UFC has made him rich, think of all the money he has invested into his life and MMA. I'm sure most of you have seen his house and own gym, that ain't cheap. And there is no way everything is all paid off, even with his money. Maybe he realized MMA isn't as fun and safe as he thought it was and is worried if he loses a couple more fights he could be done terms of big money and the UFC. He probably thought he could just keep rolling over guys making millions. I don't buy it though, there is no way you just quit because you lost your second fight. Even if he went back to the WWE imagine all the crap the other guys would give him. He's still a competitive athlete down inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Then he would be the perfect heel. If he is considering going back, he may figure hey, if I suck it up, wrestle once a month at the PPV, don't go over seas, I may be able to do this for 2/3 years to make enough money to retire for the rest of my life. While the UFC has made him rich, think of all the money he has invested into his life and MMA. I'm sure most of you have seen his house and own gym, that ain't cheap. And there is no way everything is all paid off, even with his money. Maybe he realized MMA isn't as fun and safe as he thought it was and is worried if he loses a couple more fights he could be done terms of big money and the UFC. He probably thought he could just keep rolling over guys making millions. I don't buy it though, there is no way you just quit because you lost your second fight. Even if he went back to the WWE imagine all the crap the other guys would give him. He's still a competitive athlete down inside. I'm not so sure Brock's that competitive... he's more interested in being dominant. The thing is, in the first loss, he was beating Mir until he got caught. In the second loss, he was almost totally dominated by Cain Velasquez, who despite being less strong and smaller, was a lot more technical, more well-rounded, and had was able to neutralize his offense. Everyone's he's fought had a ton of wholes in their game, and that's just the nature of most Heavyweights. Except Velasquez, who happened to be more well-rounded than his past opponents. Brock's always been a great heel. But that's not the issue. He doesn't have a whole lot of respect from anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKenwyne Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 Chuck Liddell has now officially retired from active competition. He's got a desk job with the UFC as a present. Thanks for the memories, Iceman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tag01 Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Wish soul of fight had been on hdnet, it sounded great. I can't believe hioki crushed sandro like that. Total dominance, hioki made me a believer. Suprised maxi came out so timid aainst a guy on paper he should have walked through, but like sandro it seems like his offense stalls if he can't land those big windmill punches. Glad he got the win. That mongolian guy naruntungalag (sp?) Sounds like the real deal. First fight he shows off stifling wreslting, second fight he starches a legit fighter with one punch. Can't wait for him to fight again. Now its time to get pumped for dynamite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffanka Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 There's already a couple fights uploaded here but I'm still waiting for Sandro/Hioki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RingofHonorGuard Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Duffee/Overeem goin' down... I say Overeem in under three minutes. Although there would be a fair bit of comedic relief if Duffee somehow managed to beat Overeem, especially by KO or TKO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesterx7769 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 I want to watch the fights just for all the weird rule fights. Especially the Sapp fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 I want to watch the fights just for all the weird rule fights. Especially the Sapp fight. You might not get to see it. It's not being aired on TBS in Japan at least, anyway. I'm guessing the bout will take place during the 'intermission' part of the Japanese broadcast, so I suppose it could make the live HDNet broadcast depending on whether or not it's them or TBS that control the feed. I can't understand why anyone would want to watch this to be honest, it's going to be a total mess/joke/train wreck. If I wanted to watch two fat guys slap each other for 15 mins I'd renew my membership to the local fetish club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted December 31, 2010 Author Share Posted December 31, 2010 Lol, never mind, Sapp has 'done a Sapp' and tried to renegotiate his contract on fight day. FEG have apparently told him where to shove it. Good times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesterx7769 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 <p>I've only watched two of the matches this morning. I DVR'd it (no way in hell getting up at 4 am Eastern time to watch it) but they were showing it this morning when I got up so watched what I could. I watched Kawajiri outwrestle Thomson. Agree with the announcers about Kawajiri maybe having success against American lightweights because of his wrestling. I mean Aoki tapped him but we saw what happened when Aoki went against Melendez so maybe Kawajiri could do good in the states. I don't know, we'll see. </p><p> </p><p> Then Takaya beat Fernandes. Fernandes seemed really upset with the judging but I didn't think it was a robbery. Considering his last two wins came split I wouldn't complain when you finally lose one, he looked like the semi-long lay off affected him as well.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffanka Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 <p>Okay so I've sobered up and IT'S TIME FOR SOME IMPRESSIONS</p><p> </p><p> Kawajiri rules. His top game is truly excellent and he's still nasty in the clinch. I honestly think this was a career highlight for him; Thomson is a really good grappler and he just sliced through his guard like butter. I really, really hope Crusher gets to fight Melendez now because that would be a great fight. Which Kawajiri would obviously win! <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Takaya looked pretty good, Bibiano fell apart near the end of the fight as he usually does but this fight wasn't nearly as good as the first one. Stop pulling guard, just stop.</p><p> </p><p> Miyata's good at fighting. If he wasn't so into his gimmick of suplexing people he could probably be an even better one.</p><p> </p><p> Saku should stop fighting literally falling apart etc. etc.</p><p> </p><p> Kyotaro looked really banged up from his recent K-1 fights but man, Mousasi's leg kicks looked really technically sound. The guy can apparently learn everything except wrestling.</p><p> </p><p> Get all these Olympic judoka out of MMA. They're nothing like Yoshida. </p><p> </p><p> Aoki - Nagashima was hysterical and perfect in every way. I laughed my ass off when Aoki threw the double drop kick and I was on the floor when he ran into that flying knee.</p><p> </p><p> Mizuno should fight guys his own size. Being undersized and fighting Kharitonov is historically a really, really bad idea.</p><p> </p><p> CRUSHER WON</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesterx7769 Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 lol I was actually surprised with how often he just out muscled Thomson. There were a couple of times where I thought Thomson was going to turn it around and Kawajiri just used pure strength to control him. You don't see many foreign fighters pure out muscling American wresters/grapplers so thats what impressed me. What didn't impress me was Kawajiri's bedazzled shirt <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> I agree Melendez would be good as I don't think Melendez could hold Kawajiri down for 5 rounds relying on strength and wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synticha Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 <p>I'm really suprised that Guida and Gomi managed to have such a lousy match. This was one of the matches I was looking forward to but it really let me down. Well, let's hope that Leben takes the win tonight! </p><p> </p><p> Nice Rocky outfit Wandy!</p><p> </p><p> Thank god for Vera losing! He totally sucked.</p><p> </p><p> I hate UFC 125... Gomi lost... Leben lost... I hope that Edgar would win but I really doubt that...</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffanka Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Hahaha Edgar - Maynard was a really, really good fight that ended in a draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbergey_2005 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Maynard was robbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synticha Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 It was an entertaining fight especially in the first round. I hope to see a rematch in the future! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffanka Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jbergey_2005" data-cite="jbergey_2005" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Maynard was robbed.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I had it 47-47 myself. Hope there's a rematch.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbergey_2005 Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Daffanka" data-cite="Daffanka" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I had it 47-47 myself. Hope there's a rematch.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think Edgar was great in coming back but personally I had round 1 10-7 and Maynard won round 3. I presume you gave Edgar round 5 which is understandable. Round 5 was a coinflip for me.</p><p> </p><p> I overstated the robbed part but that judge that had it 48-46 Edgar should not be judging. No possible way Edgar took 4 rounds.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffanka Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jbergey_2005" data-cite="jbergey_2005" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think Edgar was great in coming back but personally I had round 1 10-7 and Maynard won round 3. I presume you gave Edgar round 5 which is understandable. Round 5 was a coinflip for me.<p> </p><p> I overstated the robbed part but that judge that had it 48-46 Edgar should not be judging. No possible way Edgar took 4 rounds.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> 10-8 Maynard</p><p> 10-9 Edgar</p><p> 10-9 Maynard</p><p> 10-9 Edgar</p><p> 10-9 Edgar</p><p> </p><p> Honestly I can see a case for either guy winning being made. 10-7 Maynard in the first is totally reasonable, Edgar could've won round 3, Maynard could've won round 5. I really want to see five more rounds of that.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted January 2, 2011 Author Share Posted January 2, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jbergey_2005" data-cite="jbergey_2005" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Maynard was robbed.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is one of my pet hates with MMA fans. </p><p> </p><p> Nobody was robbed in that fight, nor would anybody have been robbed had the decision gone to Edgar or Maynard. It was a CLOSE FIGHT. They happen. </p><p> </p><p> A robbery is when someone clearly, absolutely and unequivocally runs a fight and doesn't get the decision. That did not happen tonight. </p><p> </p><p> Just because the guy you thought won lost, doesn't make it a robbery. </p><p> </p><p> For the record, I had it...</p><p> </p><p> Maynard-Edgar</p><p> </p><p> 10-8</p><p> 9-10</p><p> 9-10</p><p> 9-10</p><p> 9-10</p><p> </p><p> ...although I'll admit I wasn't in a silent room scoring it with a pencil and pad, that's what I gave it. No problem with the draw, or if they gave Edgar the 3rd and 5th.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted January 2, 2011 Author Share Posted January 2, 2011 While the topic is hot - 10-7 should be almost impossible in MMA, where knockdown's aren't scored directly, IMO. When you consider that in order to get a 10-8, a fighter has to 'dominate' (the official wording), 10-7 should be nothing less than a near-death experience, or incompetent refereeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffanka Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="brashleyholland" data-cite="brashleyholland" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>While the topic is hot - 10-7 should be almost impossible in MMA, where knockdown's aren't scored directly, IMO. When you consider that in order to get a 10-8, a fighter has to 'dominate' (the official wording), 10-7 should be nothing less than a near-death experience, or incompetent refereeing.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I didn't think it was enough for a 10-7 round (it has to be something like Vovchanchyn - Inoue) but I wouldn't begrudge people if they think it was - Maynard landed so much, so hard.</p><p> </p><p> Also Meltzer's site is reporting that Edgar will, indeed, be rematching Maynard. Probably at the Toronto show. That's shaping up to be a real nice card.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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