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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Shape" data-cite="The Shape" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yeah I know. My take on the whole situation with him vs. Chuck was that Len did fight hard, but he fought hard and lost</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think that's probably it, plus the injury thing. There's no point putting a hurt guy in there if he's going to have to pull out later, especially towards the end of the process.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ampulator" data-cite="ampulator" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>BH, I do have one question-do you think certain fighters, especially if they weigh too much to cut to 205, should fight at Heavyweight instead? </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Erm...I don't understand the question...if they're too big to make 205, then they have to fight at HW by default, right? <img alt=":confused:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/confused.png.d4a8e6b6eab0c67698b911fb041c0ed1.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fantabulous" data-cite="Fantabulous" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>He pissed and moaned about not getting the wild card slot to everyone who would listen, which was almost nobody because they were sick and tired of him bitching forever about it. He also whined and cried (not literally) about Brock not choosing him for the slot, not to mention the constant bitching about Brock in general and not having any respect for him at all but when he confronts Brock about the wild card slot he turns into <span style="font-size:8px;">"Why didn't you pick me for the wild card spot?"</span></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I agree with everything you said but from what we have been shown and from the comments other fighters have made, it does not seem like Brock gives a crap about his fighters. Wasn't he basically forced into being on this show?</p><p> </p><p> Also, some of these guys have much more experience than Brock. Now granted the experience that Brock has was at the highest level but when he says that line about chicken it must annoy these guys who have been doing this a lot longer than he has.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="brashleyholland" data-cite="brashleyholland" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Erm...I don't understand the question...if they're too big to make 205, then they have to fight at HW by default, right? <img alt=":confused:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/confused.png.d4a8e6b6eab0c67698b911fb041c0ed1.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> To clarify, some of them CAN cut to 205... but should not, because they end up messing up their cardio.</p>
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<p>Soooo....we get a special email from Zuffa telling us that there will be a conference call with Dana White in 25 mins for a major announcement. Very unusual. </p><p> </p><p>

Obviously that news was that Brock once again has Diverticulitis, and is out of UFC 131. Shane Carwin will now face JDS. Carwin *will* get a shot at the title ahead of the Mir/Nelson winner if he wins. </p><p> </p><p>

Brock said that it is not as bad as last time, but he would not have been able to train the way he needed to for a title fight. He has to decide whether he has surgery, potentially ending his career, or deals with the illness for the rest of his life. Says he is NOT retiring. </p><p> </p><p>

Jon Olav Einemo does not have a fight as of right now (I'm suggesting Big Rob Broughton). </p><p> </p><p>

Crazy.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="brashleyholland" data-cite="brashleyholland" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Soooo....we get a special email from Zuffa telling us that there will be a conference call with Dana White in 25 mins for a major announcement. Very unusual. <p> </p><p> Obviously that news was that Brock once again has Diverticulitis, and is out of UFC 131. Shane Carwin will now face JDS. Carwin *will* get a shot at the title ahead of the Mir/Nelson winner if he wins. </p><p> </p><p> Brock said that it is not as bad as last time, but he would not have been able to train the way he needed to for a title fight. He has to decide whether he has surgery, potentially ending his career, or deals with the illness for the rest of his life. Says he is NOT retiring. </p><p> </p><p> Jon Olav Einemo does not have a fight as of right now (I'm suggesting Big Rob Broughton). </p><p> </p><p> Crazy.</p></div></blockquote><p> I feel bad for Brock-I heard he cleaned up his diet, and recovered so quickly.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="brashleyholland" data-cite="brashleyholland" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Gonna be interviewing 'Ninja' Rua, Tom Watson, Frank Trigg, Ivan Salaverry, John Phillips and Matt Ewin next Tuesday, good times. Anybody got any questions they want asking?<p> </p><p> Also hoping to hang out with one of my heroes, Michael Schiavello. </p><p> </p><p> #ILoveMyJob</p></div></blockquote><p> I do have one, but I think you are going to ask it to Ninja Rua.</p>
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I really hope Brock makes a recovery. Would love to see him back in the octagon but health has to be the priority. Can't really see him putting himself in a position where he can't do some sort of physical/competitive thing for a living though. This summer's main events have really been torn apart.
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ampulator" data-cite="ampulator" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I do have one, but I think you are going to ask it to Ninja Rua.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Care to share? Even my god-like abilities don't stretch to mind-reading, lol <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="brashleyholland" data-cite="brashleyholland" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Care to share? Even my god-like abilities don't stretch to mind-reading, lol <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> Oh, it's an obvious one-how are is injuries? What's the status of his health? That sort of thing. That guy has been trhough some dangouers stuff in PRIDE.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Shape" data-cite="The Shape" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So what the hell is actually going on with this whole Jones situation? He's decided not to take time off, but isn't going to fight Rashad, so might end up fighting Rampage even if Rashad wins? All seems a bit much.</div></blockquote><p> What the heck are you talking about? Break it down and separate.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ampulator" data-cite="ampulator" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What the heck are you talking about? Break it down and separate.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> lol apologies.</p><p> </p><p> Jones pulls out of fight with Rashad to take time to heal an injury that he's had since college. Davis vs. Rashad made.</p><p> </p><p> Jones reveals he's now decided against surgery and is ready to fight again, but Rashad will still be fighting Davis, so there's talk of Jones vs. Rampage if Rampage beats Hamill.</p><p> </p><p> And apparently he and Rashad are still at <a href="http://www.fightersonlymagazine.co.uk/news/viewarticle.php?id=6826" rel="external nofollow">each other's throats</a>, and it all seems rather over the top.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Shape" data-cite="The Shape" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>lol apologies.<p> </p><p> Jones pulls out of fight with Rashad to take time to heal an injury that he's had since college. Davis vs. Rashad made.</p><p> </p><p> Jones reveals he's now decided against surgery and is ready to fight again, but Rashad will still be fighting Davis, so there's talk of Jones vs. Rampage if Rampage beats Hamill.</p><p> </p><p> And apparently he and Rashad are still at <a href="http://www.fightersonlymagazine.co.uk/news/viewarticle.php?id=6826" rel="external nofollow">each other's throats</a>, and it all seems rather over the top.</p></div></blockquote><p> Are you SURE Jones is ready to fight again? Isn't he taking time off to heal? I think Most doctors recommended that he take the surgery, until the surgery doctor himself advised him against it. </p><p> </p><p> It will be odd, though not exactly out of character for the UFC, that Rampage vs Hamill is the next to fight Jones. Conventional Wisdom says it's Evans vs. Davis, but UFC has done weirder decisions.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Shape" data-cite="The Shape" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So what the hell is actually going on with this whole Jones situation? He's decided not to take time off, but isn't going to fight Rashad, so might end up fighting Rampage even if Rashad wins? All seems a bit much.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> His management is mishandling the situation badly. Sure makes it look like he's ducking Rashad.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Daffanka" data-cite="Daffanka" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>His management is mishandling the situation badly. Sure makes it look like he's ducking Rashad.</div></blockquote><p> Wasn't the management he had was the same as Rashad's, just until recently?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="ampulator" data-cite="ampulator" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Wasn't the management he had was the same as Rashad's, just until recently?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Nope. Well, technically yes, for about 2 and a half months when their managers went into business together, but they've since gone their sepparate ways.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="brashleyholland" data-cite="brashleyholland" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="26660" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Nope. Well, technically yes, for about 2 and a half months when their managers went into business together, but they've since gone their sepparate ways.</div></blockquote><p> I bet THAT'S why Jones managing is so "messed up" right now. A lot of "bureaucratic change" in the background.</p>
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I assume it's ok to post links in here as long as it's not spam or me hawking my wares. If it's against policy I appologize but I didnt see anything prohibiting me posting a link to back up a point.

 

I don't know where anyone read that Jon Jones is gonna fight the winner of Rampage/Hammil or that he's ready to fight. Thet's wrong according to what I've read.

 

http://mmaweekly.com/ufc-light-heavyweight-champion-jon-jones-opts-out-of-surgery-gunning-for-late-summerearly-fall-return

 

He's hurt. His hand is casted. He can't fight or train. His managemnt says he'll fight whoever they put in front of him when he makes his return in 3-6 months.

 

They mention it MIGHT be Rampge or Hammil but also mention it might be Rashad. I think if Page wins and Phil Davis wins, I would assume Rampage would get the shot right now. Davis might because he stepped up to take the fight and Dana appreciates that kinda thing, but I would think Rampage/Jones would be the more marketable fight. However, if Rashad wins it's crazy to think Dana gives the shot to someone else. That hasn't been said anywhere in any article I've come across and it would make Dana White look like a pretty awful fight promoter.

 

Either way, Jones wouldn't have been ready for the Rashad fight anyway because the hand needed to be immoblized for awhile.

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I would certainly watch a Davis/Jones fight. I'm loving Davis right now he's making wrestling exciting. Showing that you can be a great wrestler that doesn't lay and pray his way to victory. I know he's hasn't finished everyone he's fought but he's always working at something.

 

That said, Rampage is still a huge star with some mainstream recognition. If I'm Dana White I'm putting him in a fight with Jon Jones while I still can. the Phil Davis fight could always be there for your back pocket but you gotta make the biggest fight that you can if it's sitting there for ya.

 

 

Now if Hammil wins and Davis wins, it's more of a predicament. Jones beat the crap out of Hammil and everyone knows it. He decimated him. He got the loss because of the stupid DQ (which was really Mazagotti's fault more than anything but we wont go there). I don't see a rematch being interesting to the MMA audience as a whole. It'll be another destruction. I think If Hammil and Davis both win, you gotta go with Davis.

 

All this is probably unneeded talk anyway. I'm thinking Rampage and Rashad both win and Rashad will get the title shot probably in September or October.

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<p>I think Rampage SHOULD win, but these days, he's really looking... well, tired. Like he's sick of the process of fighting (though not the fight itself). He doesn't like cutting weight, he likes to eat a lot, he hates training, and he wants to do movies. </p><p> </p><p>

Davis/rashad is hard to tell. I think Evans should win through some sort of decision, but we'll see.</p>

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<p>Davis is good. I feel like Evans is alot better. He's more dynamic and he's got more battle-tested weapons. It's easy to think of Rashad the lay n pray guy but let's not forget that on his way to the championship he ammased quite the highlight reel KOing Liddell, Salmon and Lambert and also stopped Griffin.</p><p> </p><p>

He didnt finish Thiago Silva or Rampage but not alot of guys have. Rampage hasn't been KOed in any fashion since Shogun did it back in like 2005 i believe and Silva only got KOed by Machida.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

I'm not saying Davis is incapable of finishing a guy like Evans, we just havent seen him do it yet.</p>

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