24

[mjdgoldeneye]

**This thread will certainly be spoiler laced. Proceed with caution.**

 

Well, it's over. Who watched this show? What did you think of the finale?

 

I liked it. I only started watching last season, but I think all the ends were tied off well enough considering there's a movie in the works.

 

I do have to say that the show relies too heavily on week-to-week writing. I don't know, but I have to assume the writers kind of make it up as they go along. If not, it seems that way.

 

There are so many dead-end story arcs that seem to exist to fill time that every second wasted on them hurts knowing this is the end of the line.

 

The entire redneck plot with Dana in the beginning of the season ended up being meaningless. The murders never came up outside of the arc, there's still a dead guy in the wall at CTU, and Dana had a total character reversal that kind of nullified the point. Was all that just to establish the Dana/Cole thing? If so, why does it matter? Dana and Cole's relationship had no implications on the main plot barring a select few seconds here or there. I think Dana was turned out of a lack of better alternatives. I think maybe Cole was supposed to turn or something but they decided that was too soon after the Tony thing from last season or that the fans liked him too much.

 

Also, characters appear and disappear somewhat unsatisfyingly. It's like whenever a plot point has run it's course, the writers pull a mad hatter and shout "CHANGE PLACES!" and new people come in as if they were there all along and old characters just say goodbye and walk off to nowhere land.

 

If a few came back as the Chekov's Gun like I was hoping the redneck arc would, it would be great. However, the people Dana killed and Hastings, for example, ceased to be of any relevance at all. Also, why didn't Kim Bauer even try to call Jack during any of this? Considering she was fairly concerned about him working with CTU again at all, you'd figure she'd at least be seen trying to contact him after he showed up on the news...

 

Also, I'm unsure of what the actual plan was by the Russians/Kamistanians. How many different interests were there now? Was the original plan to use the nuclear materials to mess up the IRK and when that dissolved, they sought to kill Hassan? There was a lot of crazy international stuff going on and I wasn't always sure what the overall evil goal was in the end.

 

However, all of this is just interesting to me, not especially bothersome. There were plenty of awesome Jack moments ("You won't take the shot it's too ri-" **BAM**), and it was a pretty good end to the series. I would have liked Jack to get one last on-screen "Take That!", but what happened was realistic considering the circumstances.

 

Onto the movie, I suppose.

[GatorBait19]

lol how can it be over if a movie is coming?

 

but I never got into it, I just couldn't

[mjdgoldeneye]

lol how can it be over if a movie is coming?

 

but I never got into it, I just couldn't

 

The series is over. The movie is going to be released independently from the series. Fairly simple.

 

Your point in posting?

[moon_lit_tears]

From what few episodes I seen the show was ok.

 

Not so sure the movie is going to be any good...

[GatorBait19]

The series is over. The movie is going to be released independently from the series. Fairly simple.

 

Your point in posting?

 

To ask if a show can really be over if a movie is coming out.

 

Now how can a movie (with I assume? all the same char. as the show) be independent from the show?

[BurningHamster]

Wasn't there a TV show discussion thread?

 

Between 24, Lost, Law and Order and every damn reality show is it any wonder I no longer watch TV.

[mjdgoldeneye]

From what few episodes I seen the show was ok.

 

Not so sure the movie is going to be any good...

 

Well, if you don't have an interest in the show, this thread isn't to recruit you now. It's a bit late now.

 

I have faith that the film will be as good as the show.

 

To ask if a show can really be over if a movie is coming out.

 

Now how can a movie (with I assume? all the same char. as the show) be independent from the show?

 

The series is over. It's a television series and no more television episodes will be produced. Once again, it's over. The series. 24. If you don't see the movie, you won't me missing anything critical as the series is the series. The film is just fan service.

 

That's what I meant. Certainly, you knew that.

[mjdgoldeneye]

Wasn't there a TV show discussion thread?

 

Between 24, Lost, Law and Order and every damn reality show is it any wonder I no longer watch TV.

 

Well, this series is complete. This isn't a "this week in TV" thread, it's a "That was 24, what do you think?" thread.

 

This thread is near derailment as it is. It's been established that there are those that don't watch the show. Don't flood with declarations thusly. If the thread is going to die out of disinterest, pointing out your disinterest will simply keep it floating at the top!

[GatorBait19]

Well, if you don't have an interest in the show, this thread isn't to recruit you now. It's a bit late now.

 

I have faith that the film will be as good as the show.

 

 

 

The series is over. It's a television series and no more television episodes will be produced. Once again, it's over. The series. 24. If you don't see the movie, you won't me missing anything critical as the series is the series. The film is just fan service.

 

That's what I meant. Certainly, you knew that.

 

 

 

 

I am stating that it isn't DEAD if there is a movie coming out. sure the TV show is done, but the series isn't over, they aren't just going to reboot the whole thing for the movie

 

Sex in the City tv show ended 3 years ago......... is the series over..... no

 

by the way, will you be signing up for NCAA 2011 with GDS this year?

[mjdgoldeneye]

I am stating that it isn't DEAD if there is a movie coming out. sure the TV show is done, but the series isn't over, they aren't just going to reboot the whole thing for the movie

 

Sex in the City tv show ended 3 years ago......... is the series over..... no

 

by the way, will you be signing up for NCAA 2011 with GDS this year?

 

Probably not, I'm strapped for cash so I probably won't get the game. I got 2010 in a sort of trade with a friend.

[GatorBait19]

Probably not, I'm strapped for cash so I probably won't get the game. I got 2010 in a sort of trade with a friend.

 

ahh okay, well if you do just let us know

[Anderz]

I was a little disappointed by everything that happened in series 8 post-Hassan dieing..

 

I get that Jack 'loved' Renee.. but he had spent what? two days with her? his whole rampage and senseless killings seemed completely out of character.. I get that they tried to justify it in the finale with his little video about how he was driven to hand out justice because President Taylor was part of the cover-up..

 

but his 'Brotherhood of Steel' outfit and assault on Logan, whilst it looked cool, was a bit over the top.. then the murder of Novakovic (completely off-screen as well) was ridiculous and out of character.. kinda ruined it slightly.. I got the impression that the writers thought "this is the last few weeks, we can do what we like" - I wasnt buying it..

 

normally Jack has his little outbursts after someone he cares for dies; but never to this extent.. and his past 'rampages' have all had the underlieing tone of 'bringing them to justice'..

 

After Renee's death, not a single 'good guy' died, Jack just murdered seemingly every bad character he could find..

 

I was almost disappointed that Jack didnt die at the end.. Im not bothered about a movie if it means we dont get a definative end to the story.. because really, this just felt like the end of any other season.. I dont know how there gonna work the movie now after his maniacal murdering spree that he seemingly got away with..

 

if I were to rewrite the finale Id have Jack gunned down after taking out Suvarov (or at least trying to take out Suvarov) and have it end with him dieing in Chloe's arms..

 

all in all though.. 24 has been fantastic and despite the blip that was Season 6.. I cant really fault it..

[randomfreeze]

Anderz has a lot of good points about why this season didn't sync up with me. To add to them, President Taylor becoming a pawn for President Logan was disappointing. After spending season seven building her up as such a morale character with the ending to her daughter's arc I didn't want her to just become a yes man (or woman) to Logan. Even with her trying to redeem herself in the end I just wasn't happy with it.

 

Also I remember Sutherland saying early on that at the end of the series Jack has to die for resolution and that would of been nice even with a movie in the works. It would probably be hard to coordinate everyone's schedule, but in my fantasy world I'd love for a movie to be placed between season three and four. Right after Ryan Chappelle dies and before Jack starts working for Heller. Gives us a chance for David Palmer to come back in a role where it could be the end of his Presidency or right after he leaves office. Tony/Michelle are back together along with Chase/Kim. Zachary Quinto was a CTU analyst at the end of three, have him and Chloe trading barbs again. But anyways, my point is killing Jack was possible if they decided to go back and do a movie between one of the other seasons.

 

Still, I love 24 and I've seen all the episodes so even though I didn't love this season, I would of kept watching and I'll miss the show.

[mystic]

Watching the show since the start, I will miss the show. Even saying that I was let down by the last season. At the start of the season, every so called bad guy, had a change of heart instantly after being talked to by Jack so that annoyed me.

 

The end of the show, was also a bit of a let down for me from the Jack angle, I sat there watching it and all I could think about was how much they copied the end of season 4. Granted they left enough things unanswered for a movie, but being the end of the series I felt that they just ended the series as they had done any other "day" and did not treat it as the end of the show.

 

As far as the dead end plots, it kind of a running joke you get use to, the first thread/storyline usually has nothing to do with the end of the season. It has been that way every season.

 

The new characters being brought in all the time is something, I alwys felt a little bad about, as they have TONS of characters and backstory they could bring up. (but then again you have to remember that it is "years" between seasons and to keep the supportings players around for so long after their "day" would make their original story weaker and give the impression the Jack failed. From a bad guy/girl point of view, and yes I was annoyed with Nina, by the time they brought her back for season 3).

 

Overall I enjoyed the show, and enjoyed seasons 5 and 2 the best.

[brashleyholland]

<p>24 can do little wrong in my eyes. Loved it from day one. This is only the second season I've watched on a 'week by week' basis after season 1. I used to wait until each season came out on DVD and do the whole thing back to back with some other equally ridiculous people :-p</p><p> </p><p>

Day's 1, 2 and 3 were the best IMO, with 3 being the one I enjoyed the most. </p><p> </p><p>

Couple of disappointments after the finale: </p><p> </p><p>

- No Aaron Pierce. The only guy apart from Jack to be in every season. Aaron was one of the fan's favourites, would have been nice to see him somehow brought back to keep up his record of being in every season. </p><p> </p><p>

- No Tony. I dunno why, but I assumed that after he survived Day 7, Tony would somehow make it into Day 8. I guess he's firmly under lock and key somewhere, but would it have been to much of a stretch for Jack (or the Russians) to bust him out/somehow get him released? </p><p> </p><p>

- The Dana storyline was awful. If there is one criticism with 24, the mole thing has been done so many times that it's ridiculous. So they reactivate CTU, being super careful due to the department's history of corruption...oh, wait, they hire someone who not only has a criminal past, but is also in bed with the bad guys. Oops! </p><p> </p><p>

Seriously though. If she was so well in with the bad guys, why would she have pandered to her dumb redneck ex-boyfriend? She killed a guy in CTU, why not just wax the ex? Or better yet, have the bad guys do it, seeing as she's so important in their plan? </p><p> </p><p>

I know that a lot of 24 is written on the fly, but it almost seemed like it was a case of...<em>"well, *somebody* has to be the mole, lets pick names out of a hat!"</em></p><p> </p><p>

- The ending was...a little too...uneventful? I dunno, I guess I expected something bigger and better out of the last few episodes. Taylor flipping out and threatening war was cool. But all in all, I expected a more, I dunno, explosive conclusion. </p><p> </p><p>

- Logan didn't get his comeuppance. Sure, he shot himself in the head, but I was expecting Jack to throw him out of his office window or something equally brutal/spectacular. </p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Why I can forgive the above:</strong> </p><p> </p><p>

- It seems to me that although the season wasn't cancelled, the decision to end it was made part-way through the season. The conclusion definitely seemed rushed, as though they were suddenly forced to tie things up over a small number of episodes, rather than writing a whole season as if it were the shows last. </p><p> </p><p>

- There's going to be a movie, so there is plenty of time for the likes of Tony, Aaron, Wayne Palmer and co to get a proper send off. With the film rumoured to be set in Europe though, it's unlikely that the above (Aaron especially) will play a major role. </p><p> </p><p>

I'm hazarding a guess that the movie will involve Jack going after the Russian President Suvarov, which would leave an opening for Logan's return and ultimate demise. I see no reason for them not showing his death/explicitly stating that Logan wasn't dead, if they weren't planning on having him return.</p>

[Anderz]

I really thought that when Chloe told Arlo that there was "only one man for the job" who could talk Jack down, she was gonna call on Tony.. but no we get bloody Cole.. who doesnt do much of anything anyway..

 

plenty of things wrong with season 8, but in the grand scheme of things it doesnt really matter...

 

 

my favourite season has to be season 3.. but 2,3,4,5,7 are all fantastic.. Season 1 was really good, unless you watch it all in order back to back - then its not so great.. 6 was a shocker really.. and 8 has had its problems.. Redemption and subsequently Season 7 were a much needed change of pace and a return to form..

[Lt. Lucrativo]

I was a bit underwhelmed by the end, myself. I agree with all of brashleyholland's criticisms of the final season and the finale. I think that the announcement of the upcoming movie really robbed the series of the opportunity to end with more of a bang by making it obvious that there was no way that Jack was going to die. In my opinion, having Jack go out in a blaze of glory would probably have been a better ending, but even if he's going to survive it would have been better if the audience didn't know that going in. Instead, Jack Bauer--one of the biggest badasses ever committed to film--was essentially sidelined for the entire final hour of his series while characters that no one really cares about like Agent Freddy Prinze Jr. and the horribly written President Taylor take center stage and the season's plot is resolved without his involvement.

 

The bizarre plot holes and nonsensical plot twists, the repetitive storylines, the poorly written and often poorly acted secondary characters--all that I can understand and forgive because that's 24. It's very often been awesome in spite of having flaws. And the flaws it does have are often amusing enough to be somewhat charming. (Over 8 seasons of the show, was any law enforcement agency ever able to set up an effective perimeter?) But to have Jack be a non-factor in the end and just have Taylor suddenly decide to do an about face and reveal the truth was a disappointment.

 

And yeah, the lack of Agent Pierce was definitely unfortunate as well.

[BHK1978]

And yeah, the lack of Agent Pierce was definitely unfortunate as well.

 

I kept on saying to myself where is Aaron? How can you have a season of 24 without Aaron in it.

[Lt. Lucrativo]

I kept on saying to myself where is Aaron? How can you have a season of 24 without Aaron in it.

 

Yep. Even in the very last episode, when Logan is about to leave the tunnel where Jack ambushed him and Pillar tells him, "Your new secret service detail is here to escort you the UN"--all I could think was that somehow, Agent Pierce must have gotten himself reinstated and come back to settle the score with Logan once and for all. Alas, it was not to be.

[brashleyholland]

Yep. Even in the very last episode, when Logan is about to leave the tunnel where Jack ambushed him and Pillar tells him, "Your new secret service detail is here to escort you the UN"--all I could think was that somehow, Agent Pierce must have gotten himself reinstated and come back to settle the score with Logan once and for all. Alas, it was not to be.

 

Well he is nailing the guy's wife, so I guess he has the last laugh in that respect :-p

[Lt. Lucrativo]

Yeah, but did she go to prison or anything for attempting to murder Logan a while back? I don't remember that ever being resolved. Pierce might not be getting more than the odd conjugal . . . in which case he'd probably be a bit frustrated.