justtxyank Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 I don't believe Slaughter was working with the WWF as a road agent at this point. He was still active I believe with the AWF. I don't believe he returned to the WWF in any capacity until 97 as a road agent and eventually the on-screen commissioner. I know Sarge worked dates with the AWF in 94. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="justtxyank" data-cite="justtxyank" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31580" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't believe Slaughter was working with the WWF as a road agent at this point. He was still active I believe with the AWF. I don't believe he returned to the WWF in any capacity until 97 as a road agent and eventually the on-screen commissioner. I know Sarge worked dates with the AWF in 94.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well technically, he could easily have been doing both.</p><p> </p><p> But as to AWF, I'm finding it hard to gather info on exactly when he wrestled for them. The only matches I can find with him in AWF are from 1996.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beejus Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 <p>Maybe put him as hiatus?</p><p> </p><p> Very much looking forward to this one, as I think that this time period has a ton of potential. For WCW in particular; just think of the feuds that COULD have been rather than what was! Looking forward to no Dungeon of Doom!</p><p> </p><p> Also in the WWF, this was perhaps one of the only times that a guy like Owen Hart could have been moved up and grabbed the World title, so that could be a fun scenario to play out as well.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan93 Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 No, this was the only time that Owen Hart <em>should</em> have grabbed the World title. Seriously, everything was set for him, a couple of incredible matches with Bret (WrestleMania X, Summerslam) and then... they gave the title to Mr. Bob Backlund. Now, I love Mr. Bob Backlund, but, seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Beejus" data-cite="Beejus" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31580" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Maybe put him as hiatus?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> No, he will be a semi-active wrestler. The only question is whether to have him start as a WWF road agent or not.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31580" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Very much looking forward to this one, as I think that this time period has a ton of potential. For WCW in particular; just think of the feuds that COULD have been rather than what was! Looking forward to no Dungeon of Doom!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yes, WCW holds a ton of potential. They have Steve Austin. They have an uninjured Ricky Steamboat. They have Vader. They have Funk. They have Cactus Jack. They have the beginning of the Hogan era, fresh with no stupid storylines or opponents (yet). And so on... so many posibilities for building greater things than they actually did.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31580" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Also in the WWF, this was perhaps one of the only times that a guy like Owen Hart could have been moved up and grabbed the World title, so that could be a fun scenario to play out as well.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> WWF does have potential as well, with Owen at his height and Savage and Luger still on contract. However, this scenario does favor WCW in terms of starting rosters. But still, there are a whole bunch of stars either free or at PPA contracts waiting to be signed: Roddy Piper, Davey Boy Smith, Jake Roberts, The Ultimate Warrior, Sid Vicious, etc - and a whole bunch of potential stars: Eddie Guerrero, Art Barr, Chris Jericho, Rob Van Dam, Rey Misterio Jr., etc. And with WWF still being the bigger company, they'll have an edge signing these guys ahead of WCW.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="soxfan93" data-cite="soxfan93" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31580" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>No, this was the only time that Owen Hart <em>should</em> have grabbed the World title. Seriously, everything was set for him, a couple of incredible matches with Bret (WrestleMania X, Summerslam) and then... they gave the title to Mr. Bob Backlund. Now, I love Mr. Bob Backlund, but, seriously?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well, Backlund was in all fairness only given the strap so he could pass it to Kevin Nash in a squash match at the first given opportunity. Was Diesel a better choice for a champion than Owen Hart at that point? Hard to say... but thank God they didn't have Bret or Owen deliver the strap to Nash in that 8-second squash match. They needed someone like Backlund for that. But of course, I wouldn't have done that at all... and I'm sure a lot of people here wouldn't either. So here's the chance to change history!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justtxyank Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 <p><a href="http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/results/awf/" rel="external nofollow">http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/results/awf/</a></p><p> </p><p> Here's some stuff on AWF showing Slaughter wrestling in 1995.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="justtxyank" data-cite="justtxyank" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31580" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><a href="http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/results/awf/" rel="external nofollow">http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/results/awf/</a><p> </p><p> Here's some stuff on AWF showing Slaughter wrestling in 1995.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ah yes, I remember that I found that when doing my 1995 mod. A good source.</p><p> </p><p> Though it sadly doesn't say when the shows were taped...</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justtxyank Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31580" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Ah yes, I remember that I found that when doing my 1995 mod. A good source.<p> </p><p> Though it sadly doesn't say when the shows were taped...</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think it would be good personally to set the AWF as active with a touring schedule but don't set their touring months until later in the year and then put guys like Slaughter on ppa contracts with them.</p><p> </p><p> Touring is probably the best way to do AWF.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="justtxyank" data-cite="justtxyank" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31580" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think it would be good personally to set the AWF as active with a touring schedule but don't set their touring months until later in the year and then put guys like Slaughter on ppa contracts with them.<p> </p><p> Touring is probably the best way to do AWF.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not sure about this... they did have a TV show, after all.</p><p> </p><p> I'll try to dig up some more info on them. Maybe I shouldn't have them debut untill August 1994.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted March 25, 2012 Author Share Posted March 25, 2012 <p><img alt="images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0l2pm2y2k9QjTpBWO0F-oB4TddmPtKJZK6xUM7ZRUYJ1lfxsn" data-src="https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0l2pm2y2k9QjTpBWO0F-oB4TddmPtKJZK6xUM7ZRUYJ1lfxsn" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> ...bar any unforseen real life issues, the first release should be ready in time for next weekend.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsnypade33 Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 that is great news indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan93 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I have never been so happy to see Professor Farnsworth! I am so excited! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiplug Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Slaughter was involved in a storyline in late 1993 early 1994 were he was petitioning for jack tunney's job. He would appear at ringside with a clipboard and take notes, reverse decision, though the storyline ended in 1995 when gorilla monsoon was made wwf president Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyEddie Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 ...bar any unforseen real life issues, the first release should be ready in time for next weekend. Ah damn. Just when I got into my 3PW dynasty, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Am I the only one who watches Futurama? Every time Farnsworth says "Good news everyone!" something goes terribly, terribly wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 Slaughter was involved in a storyline in late 1993 early 1994 were he was petitioning for jack tunney's job. He would appear at ringside with a clipboard and take notes, reverse decision, though the storyline ended in 1995 when gorilla monsoon was made wwf president But did the storyline run through 1994? Am I the only one who watches Futurama? Every time Farnsworth says "Good news everyone!" something goes terribly, terribly wrong Oh right, did I forgot to mention that you can only downoad the mod if you deliver an important package for me on the third moon of the toxic lava planet in the Horrible Death system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted March 29, 2012 Author Share Posted March 29, 2012 <p>Release is imminent now, but I have a few considerations to make that I would like to hear a few opinions on:</p><p> </p><p> PPVs. In 1994, WCW and WWF did not have a PPV every month like they do now. And ECW had none at all. What this means it that the AI will create some for them right away ingame. And sadly, in spite of me having included them as dormant events, the AI makes up it's own instead of using the real PPVs which I have supplied. So the question is: should I, ahistorically, just include the real PPVs for these 3 from the start - or should the AI be allowed fun with fictious PPVs?</p><p> </p><p> The next issue is the WCW United States Championship and the WWF Intercontinental Championship. These two have brought me headaches before, and I am still a tad undecided as to what to do with their status: midcard or main event? If I set them as midcard, we will see them contested by guys who were so low on the card that they wouldn't have gotten anywhere near them in real life - and will certainly never see guys like Sting, Vader, Ric Flair, Shawn Michaels, Razor Ramon, Diesel, etc fight for and win them. And vice versa, if they are set as main event, we will likely not see upper midcards get anywhere near them - AND it will create an issue for WWF similar to the above, in which the AI will create a new midcard title for them as they have no other... in which case the question is: should I just give them the WWF European Championship 2 years too early, or let the AI have some fun?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smwilliams Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31580" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Release is imminent now, but I have a few considerations to make that I would like to hear a few opinions on:<p> </p><p> PPVs. In 1994, WCW and WWF did not have a PPV every month like they do now. And ECW had none at all. What this means it that the AI will create some for them right away ingame. And sadly, in spite of me having included them as dormant events, the AI makes up it's own instead of using the real PPVs which I have supplied. So the question is: should I, ahistorically, just include the real PPVs for these 3 from the start - or should the AI be allowed fun with fictious PPVs?</p><p> </p><p> The next issue is the WCW United States Championship and the WWF Intercontinental Championship. These two have brought me headaches before, and I am still a tad undecided as to what to do with their status: midcard or main event? If I set them as midcard, we will see them contested by guys who were so low on the card that they wouldn't have gotten anywhere near them in real life - and will certainly never see guys like Sting, Vader, Ric Flair, Shawn Michaels, Razor Ramon, Diesel, etc fight for and win them. And vice versa, if they are set as main event, we will likely not see upper midcards get anywhere near them - AND it will create an issue for WWF similar to the above, in which the AI will create a new midcard title for them as they have no other... in which case the question is: should I just give them the WWF European Championship 2 years too early, or let the AI have some fun?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> As far as the pay-per-views go, I think your best bet is to go with the events you've built in since the guess is most players will want to use ECW, WCW, or WWF anyways and run a monthly PPV or in the case of WCW/WWF replace those monthly PPVs with Clash of the Champions/In Your House. It's about a year or two until all three companies start running monthly PPVs anyways.</p><p> </p><p> And I feel you as far as the IC/US titles go. The game could really use an UMC status for belts. I'd make IC/US midcard titles and let the chips fall where they may. If someone like Jacques Rougeau wins the IC title, oh well. Not only that, but perhaps the title bump will turn some of those forgettable midcarders into actual stars.</p><p> </p><p> Just my two cents.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted March 29, 2012 Author Share Posted March 29, 2012 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="smwilliams" data-cite="smwilliams" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31580" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As far as the pay-per-views go, I think your best bet is to go with the events you've built in since the guess is most players will want to use ECW, WCW, or WWF anyways and run a monthly PPV or in the case of WCW/WWF replace those monthly PPVs with Clash of the Champions/In Your House. It's about a year or two until all three companies start running monthly PPVs anyways.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah I just wish the game would have the AI use the dormant events I have already put in place, just as it does with tv shows.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31580" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And I feel you as far as the IC/US titles go. The game could really use an UMC status for belts. I'd make IC/US midcard titles and let the chips fall where they may. If someone like Jacques Rougeau wins the IC title, oh well. Not only that, but perhaps the title bump will turn some of those forgettable midcarders into actual stars.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's a real toughie for me, this one. I'm currently leaning towards having them as main event titles. After e little test run untill January 1st 1995, these are the results from those two belts:</p><p> </p><p> WCW US champion: Stevie Ray</p><p> Has defended against: New Jack, Alex Wright, Kevin Sullivan, Brian Knobbs, Jerry Sags, Rob Van Dam and Sgt. Buddy Lee Parker.</p><p> </p><p> WWF IC champion: Diesel (has not been defeated since the game began, perhaps because he's too over for the midcarders)</p><p> Has defended against: Billy Gunn, Virgil, Dustin Rhodes, Timothy Well, Barry Horowitz and Bastion Booger.</p><p> </p><p> Now in reality, in this time period, it was people like Vader, Sting, Ric Flair, Jim Duggan, Ricky Steamboat, Steve Austin for WCW and Diesel, Razor Ramon, Shawn Michaels, Jeff Jarrett for WWF. Quite a difference.</p><p> </p><p> UMC status would indeed be delicious for belts like these. And before anyone suggest having them as "floating" titles, I already tried that with my last mod: it's bugged. Floating titles will very very VERY rarely get defended and even more rarely change hands.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnum81 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 <p>On the PPVs: Put your own PPVs in there, if it's for the better of the game it's ok to modify history.</p><p> </p><p> On the Titles: I'd put them in as Midcard Titles and set their prestige very high (somewhere around 75-80, a tad below the ME Titles). Prestige of a title changes over time, the purpose of a title (ME, Mid, Under) always remains the same.</p><p> </p><p> Can't wait for the release, hope it's out in time for the weekend... ;-)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted March 29, 2012 Author Share Posted March 29, 2012 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="burnum81" data-cite="burnum81" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31580" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>On the PPVs: Put your own PPVs in there, if it's for the better of the game it's ok to modify history.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That is a good point.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31580" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>On the Titles: I'd put them in as Midcard Titles and set their prestige very high (somewhere around 75-80, a tad below the ME Titles). Prestige of a title changes over time, the purpose of a title (ME, Mid, Under) always remains the same.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I have the prestige fairly high (70 for both atm), but that does not seem to matter the least bit as to who the AI selects to challenge for the belts.</p><p> </p><p> As a funny piece of bonus info I can reveal that by January 1st 1995, Bagwell and Lawler were world champions in WCW and WWF respectively... <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31580" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Can't wait for the release, hope it's out in time for the weekend... ;-)</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It will be. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnum81 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hive" data-cite="Hive" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="31580" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That is a good point.<p> </p><p> As a funny piece of bonus info I can reveal that by January 1st 1995, Bagwell and Lawler were world champions in WCW and WWF respectively... <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Background power is really underrated in TEW. Hogan would've blocked anyone who's not from his entourage from winning the title. Sullivan was head booker and made himself a bigger deal than he was worthy of.</p><p> </p><p> I'd really like to see a feature in a new TEW game that gives big-draw workers (like Hogan or HHH) more power, for example demanding to bring in a few friends for him to join (during contract negotiations)...</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted March 29, 2012 Author Share Posted March 29, 2012 <p>The crazy part is that Bagwell isn't the least bit over, he's all C and C+ everywhere... and Lawler, in spite of being A in the mid south, is not much different.</p><p> </p><p> But eh, could definately be worse than those two. Though it's a wee bit early for Bagwell.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smartman Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 <p>Yeah, put the PPV's in so the AI doesn't "creatively" name them.</p><p> </p><p> As for the titles, why don't you put them Floating with high prestige? That's where I'd put those two titles if I was running WCW or WWF. That's what the Floating level was put in there for, I thought.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan93 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 <p>Yeah, advance the PPV names a little and just use the real names. The last thing I want to see is "WWF Fortress."</p><p> </p><p> The titles are really up to you. I'll set the US Title to Floating when I'm playing WCW, but if the AI doesn't handle Floating titles well, then... I don't know.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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