SWF In 2013

[Purple Cowboy]

I see Paul Huntingdon & Marc DuBois are former SWF tag champs from August to December 2009, but they don't have any tag experience together or a team name. Has anyone used them together? I often fire DuBois to help with the backstage but I'm toying with bringing DuBois into the Chase Agency in my new SWF save and this might be a way to give some work to two guys who usually fall through the cracks for me.

[Luchador Canadiense]

They probably don't have tag experience together because they probably never formed a formal tag team. I would think they were more like the Matt Hardy and MVP tag team back in 2008. They teamed together, but they weren't an actual team.

[Sigilistic]

<p>Whoa. Guys. Guys, I'm doing well in my SWF game. I'm five months in and I haven't run below a 79 card, with the average being between 81 and 87.</p><p> </p><p>

Until now, I guess I just didn't appreciate how much of a penalty you get for running matches too long or too short for the product. A couple minutes too few or too many can knock a letter grade off of a match, it seems.</p><p> </p><p>

Also, have people experimented with the match/angle ratios? I've found that a 50/50 for TV is pretty much pitch-perfect. A handful of strong angles can carry a show as long as the matches aren't terrible. I keep the PPVs at 70 percent matches.</p>

[Irish Wolf]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Sigilistic" data-cite="Sigilistic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Whoa. Guys. Guys, I'm doing well in my SWF game. I'm five months in and I haven't run below a 79 card, with the average being between 81 and 87.<p> </p><p> Until now, I guess I just didn't appreciate how much of a penalty you get for running matches too long or too short for the product. A couple minutes too few or too many can knock a letter grade off of a match, it seems.</p><p> </p><p> Also, have people experimented with the match/angle ratios? I've found that a 50/50 for TV is pretty much pitch-perfect. A handful of strong angles can carry a show as long as the matches aren't terrible. I keep the PPVs at 70 percent matches.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I stick with the 70/30 but you get a 10% leeway so I always run my shows at 60/40. As for the match times yeah definitely you have to be super careful to not go over or under, although I've found that the it gets worse and worse the further away you get from the minimum or maximum. I've never seen a full letter drop from just a minute or two.</p>

[Sigilistic]

I've never seen a full letter drop from just a minute or two.

 

Yeah I might've over-stated that a bit. It'll knock a plus off of a grade, or knock a grade down to a minus but that's about it unless you go too far.

[gord]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Sigilistic" data-cite="Sigilistic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Whoa. Guys. Guys, I'm doing well in my SWF game. I'm five months in and I haven't run below a 79 card, with the average being between 81 and 87.<p> </p><p> Until now, I guess I just didn't appreciate how much of a penalty you get for running matches too long or too short for the product. A couple minutes too few or too many can knock a letter grade off of a match, it seems.</p><p> </p><p> Also, have people experimented with the match/angle ratios? I've found that a 50/50 for TV is pretty much pitch-perfect. A handful of strong angles can carry a show as long as the matches aren't terrible. I keep the PPVs at 70 percent matches.</p></div></blockquote><p> 60/40 on TV, 80/20 on PPVs. Works well for me. I don't like to have a lot of angles on my PPVs.</p>

[edenborn]

<p>I'm running an SWF game now and thinking about the WWF/WWE's ratio of finishes to non-finishes.</p><p> </p><p>

Ordinarily, I make a point never to have more than one draw per show. But if Richard Eisen runs his shows the way Vince McMahon runs his, realistically there's no reason I need to stick with that, is there?</p><p> </p><p>

For a TV show with 6 matches, would 2 draws be out of place? How about 3?</p>

[FlameSnoopy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="edenborn" data-cite="edenborn" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm running an SWF game now and thinking about the WWF/WWE's ratio of finishes to non-finishes.<p> </p><p> Ordinarily, I make a point never to have more than one draw per show. But if Richard Eisen runs his shows the way Vince McMahon runs his, realistically there's no reason I need to stick with that, is there?</p><p> </p><p> For a TV show with 6 matches, would 2 draws be out of place? How about 3?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I always try and not to have more than one draw per show since nobody likes draws <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> I think 2 would be an absolute maximum, but not every week though.</p>

[Sigilistic]

I don't shy away from schmozz finishes. On TV anyway. I mean, if people want to see long, competitive matches with clean finishes, they need to buy the damn PPV. That said, I've noticed a distinct hit to my match ratings when they end in a draw so I try not to go overboard with them.

[Eisen-verse]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="edenborn" data-cite="edenborn" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm running an SWF game now and thinking about the WWF/WWE's ratio of finishes to non-finishes.<p> </p><p> Ordinarily, I make a point never to have more than one draw per show. But if Richard Eisen runs his shows the way Vince McMahon runs his, realistically there's no reason I need to stick with that, is there?</p><p> </p><p> For a TV show with 6 matches, would 2 draws be out of place? How about 3?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Depends on whether or not the non-finishes further the storylines within them. I've had shows with 2 draws/DQ's and felt fine about what was done because it made sense to the story. There had to be a real good reason for the run-in (ie: "You see... you can't win on your own; I HAD to do it for you").</p><p> </p><p> All of this in mind, I don't believe I have ever booked a main event in this manner (maybe once). I'll have run-ins, dubious endings, to my main events (even on SupremeTV) but they won't end up in a draw in most cases. There's a winner and a loser; even if it's tainted in nature.</p><p> </p><p> I say, book how you think is best. If you're booking draws/DQ's 2-3 times a show, every week, then your viewers are going to start to expect it. It'll lose it's luster and, ultimately, people will see wins and losses as 'not as important'.</p>

[Russelrules44]

What's the best way to book SWF's wrestlers?

[Irish Wolf]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Russelrules44" data-cite="Russelrules44" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What's the best way to book SWF's wrestlers?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It depends on the individual worker. Their overness this strengths (Awesome entertainment skills, great in ring performer, menacing giant) and how you want to book them. I likve Jungle Jack but he doesn't click for me, he's good so I keep him in my upper midcard but I'll almost never main event push him so I book him differently than Brandon James who starts as an upper midcarder and I feel can main event.</p><p> </p><p> So the question is too broad. Who do you want to push? How do you want to push them (midcard gate keeper is just as valuable a push as main event star so be specific)? Are you just having trouble booking SWFs shows in general?</p>

[Russelrules44]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Apupunchau@optonline" data-cite="Apupunchau@optonline" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It depends on the individual worker. Their overness this strengths (Awesome entertainment skills, great in ring performer, menacing giant) and how you want to book them. I likve Jungle Jack but he doesn't click for me, he's good so I keep him in my upper midcard but I'll almost never main event push him so I book him differently than Brandon James who starts as an upper midcarder and I feel can main event.<p> </p><p> So the question is too broad. Who do you want to push? How do you want to push them (midcard gate keeper is just as valuable a push as main event star so be specific)? Are you just having trouble booking SWFs shows in general?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Pretty much all of the workers....And by that, I mean so the dirt sheet doesn't say, Penalised by booking decisions.</p>

[Irish Wolf]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Russelrules44" data-cite="Russelrules44" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Pretty much all of the workers....And by that, I mean so the dirt sheet doesn't say, Penalised by booking decisions.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well penalized by booking decisions note has nothing to do with the individual worker. That's from poor booking notes. And I am by no means a master of that. But I know, Keep Strong, Dominate and Limited Involvement anything that really puts one person over another more than just standard winning or losing shows up as a bad decision. How much this affects the math may be negligible and may be cancelled out by other positive effects. I think also cheap wins and sports entertainment finishes also will give the bad booking note.</p>

[edenborn]

Seeking advice.

 

Steve Frehley fought Remo at When Hell Freezes Over and barely escaped with the strap. DQ win for Remo when Rich Money interfered, swerving everyone by unexpectedly clobbering his supposed ally instead of Frehley. Money wants "his" title back. I'm building to a 3-way Frehley-Remo-Money cage match at Nothing To Lose.

 

Remo's face turn was a complete success.

 

Money: 92 popularity / 91 momentum.

Remo: 89 popularity / 100 momentum.

Frehley: 82 popularity / 81 momentum.

 

I've got four shows before Nothing To Lose. I'm thinking:

 

- Confrontations and brawls between these three should be the focus of my shows.

 

- I shouldn't put them in matches against each other except for a Money vs. Remo #1 contender match which Frehley turns into a draw when he clobbers both wrestlers, thus setting up the PPV triple threat.

 

From a strategic and storyline perspective, is that sensible? Or is there a better way to go?

 

Also, Squeeky McClean is fresh off a PPV win and has 93 momentum. Should I feed him to Frehley? Have Frehley call out Remo and Money only to have McClean show up and insult him, thus setting up a main event non-title match that Frehley wins?

 

I'm thinking if I can get Frehley's momentum up into the 90's, he'll start to catch up to Remo and Money and the PPV main event will be that much better. On the other hand, I like McClean's insufferable persona and could instead keep him out of this action in favor of a dirty winning streak storyline that eventually builds him up to main event.

[Irish Wolf]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="edenborn" data-cite="edenborn" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Seeking advice.<p> </p><p> Steve Frehley fought Remo at When Hell Freezes Over and barely escaped with the strap. DQ win for Remo when Rich Money interfered, swerving everyone by unexpectedly clobbering his supposed ally instead of Frehley. Money wants "his" title back. I'm building to a 3-way Frehley-Remo-Money cage match at Nothing To Lose.</p><p> </p><p> Remo's face turn was a complete success.</p><p> </p><p> Money: 92 popularity / 91 momentum.</p><p> Remo: 89 popularity / 100 momentum. </p><p> Frehley: 82 popularity / 81 momentum.</p><p> </p><p> I've got four shows before Nothing To Lose. I'm thinking:</p><p> </p><p> - Confrontations and brawls between these three should be the focus of my shows. </p><p> </p><p> - I shouldn't put them in matches against each other except for a Money vs. Remo #1 contender match which Frehley turns into a draw when he clobbers both wrestlers, thus setting up the PPV triple threat.</p><p> </p><p> From a strategic and storyline perspective, is that sensible? Or is there a better way to go?</p><p> </p><p> Also, Squeeky McClean is fresh off a PPV win and has 93 momentum. Should I feed him to Frehley? Have Frehley call out Remo and Money only to have McClean show up and insult him, thus setting up a main event non-title match that Frehley wins? </p><p> </p><p> I'm thinking if I can get Frehley's momentum up into the 90's, he'll start to catch up to Remo and Money and the PPV main event will be that much better. On the other hand, I like McClean's insufferable persona and could instead keep him out of this action in favor of a dirty winning streak storyline that eventually builds him up to main event.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> McCLean could come out and be insufferable and get the match with Frehley but instead of outright losing (keep him strong maybe and possibly cheap win for Frehley it'll lower the grade but hey) he walks off from the match when he realizes he can't beat Frehley snf gets DQ'd if you're going to build him up to ME and possibly an eventual Frehley/McClean story, then McClean can spend the next couple of weeks talking about how Frehley never beat him. Stes up Frehley McClean for alater and Frehley will get the momnetum for the win for his title match (plus maybe some of McClean's psyhcology will rub off on Frehley).</p>

[madjock]

Which Essien decided to give Marat a PPV only contract and what were they thinking ?

[Luchador Canadiense]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="madjock" data-cite="madjock" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Which Essien decided to give Marat a PPV only contract and what were they thinking ?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Richard, and he was thinking "I really don't want to lose this big Russian to USPW, so if he only wants to work PPVs, then he can only work PPVs. At least he won't be stinking it up in the ring during primetime TV show!"</p>

[Sons of Kohral]

Steve Frehley (my champ) had 90 pop and over the last two weeks he dropped to 88. He was featured in promos, but hadn't been involved in a match both weeks. Could that be why he dropped?

[Irish Wolf]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Sons of Kohral" data-cite="Sons of Kohral" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Steve Frehley (my champ) had 90 pop and over the last two weeks he dropped to 88. He was featured in promos, but hadn't been involved in a match both weeks. Could that be why he dropped?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> What were the ratings on the angles he was in?</p>

[Sons of Kohral]

<p>85</p><p>

90</p><p>

92</p><p>

90</p><p> </p><p>

The 85 did that much damage? </p><p> </p><p>

And I just checked, I haven't had him in a match for 6 shows. 3 A shows and 3 B shows... I think that may be the culprit.</p>

[Teh_Showtime]

<p>I highly doubt its due to not wrestling as it is pretty easy to get a non wrestler (Emma Chase) extremely over and maintain that popularity for months if not years.</p><p> </p><p>

Have him in highly rated segments on PPV and then win his match, and it should go back up though.</p>

[Irish Wolf]

Yeah TV should only effect pop some one. The big losses and gains come from PPVs.

[Lo-Drew]

Curious how do you guys book Eric Eisen? Do you eventually put him back in the main event or better yet give him the World title again? In a few games i know I have. Not long title reigns, but good enough transitional reigns before having him drop it to people like Frehley or Valiant(depending on how far I am in the game.)

[Irish Wolf]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Lo-Drew" data-cite="Lo-Drew" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Curious how do you guys book Eric Eisen? Do you eventually put him back in the main event or better yet give him the World title again? In a few games i know I have. Not long title reigns, but good enough transitional reigns before having him drop it to people like Frehley or Valiant(depending on how far I am in the game.)</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I looked out in one game and he had good chemistry as a partner for Rich Money. I gave them an occassional tag unit called the Silver Spoons. Basically Eisen went to Money who was using Marat Khoklov as muscle in his war agasint Lobster Warrior, and asked to borrow the big man. The two decided that teaming up would be a great way to take out both of their enemies. The tag matches alone boosted everyone to the main event and Eisen gained a surprising amount of skill over the 8 months that story took place.</p>