CGC Thread

[TakerNGN74]

Figured I would start the CGC thread as they are one of my favoriote companies and I had my most successful game with them back in 2010 (and since I started playing the TEW series). I am glad to see that most of their roster from 2010 remained in tact.

 

Anyways what are your thoughts on CGC use this thread to post anything related to Canadian Golden Combat.

 

The first thing I did when I started the save was release Prometheus because I didn't want to have him since I know that just by reading his profile that he can be a headache. A headache that I don't want to deal with.

[Stennick]

Thats funny because the minute I saw Prometheus I instantly went out and offered him a ten year deal sight unseen. A 22 year old 7'1 giant? Thoughts of Bruce vs. Prometheus were all I could think about.

[TakerNGN74]

Thats funny because the minute I saw Prometheus I instantly went out and offered him a ten year deal sight unseen. A 22 year old 7'1 giant? Thoughts of Bruce vs. Prometheus were all I could think about.

 

Nice, I remember not wanting to deal with him in 2010 when he was in CGC's DeColt Powerhouse and now that he made it to the main roster in 2013 I just didn't want to deal with him because he is awful.

[Jack Avatar Fan]

I hear that Prometheus is also receptive to going up a weight class, which I suppose adds to the intrigue.

 

With the revamped importance of angles in a sports entertainment fed, I decided to be Steve DeColt and return to CGC. When I get the full game, I have to figure out if DeColt is going to became the new leader of Elite, or if I can just have him lead Eddie and Sean in a new stable, letting Elite finally die and start over with something new, and likely to finally beat the Decolts for an extended period of time,

 

I don't want to break up Jack and Ricky's team, but the idea of Ricky joining Steve is hard to resist.

[doctorjones]

I hear that Prometheus is also receptive to going up a weight class, which I suppose adds to the intrigue.

 

With the revamped importance of angles in a sports entertainment fed, I decided to be Steve DeColt and return to CGC. When I get the full game, I have to figure out if DeColt is going to became the new leader of Elite, or if I can just have him lead Eddie and Sean in a new stable, letting Elite finally die and start over with something new, and likely to finally beat the Decolts for an extended period of time,

 

I don't want to break up Jack and Ricky's team, but the idea of Ricky joining Steve is hard to resist.

 

I've yet to play as CGC in TEW2013, but I always turn Jack heel, in every CGC game I've ever played.

[TakerNGN74]

I hear that Prometheus is also receptive to going up a weight class, which I suppose adds to the intrigue.

 

With the revamped importance of angles in a sports entertainment fed, I decided to be Steve DeColt and return to CGC. When I get the full game, I have to figure out if DeColt is going to became the new leader of Elite, or if I can just have him lead Eddie and Sean in a new stable, letting Elite finally die and start over with something new, and likely to finally beat the Decolts for an extended period of time,

 

I don't want to break up Jack and Ricky's team, but the idea of Ricky joining Steve is hard to resist.

 

I started my CGC save with Steve DeColt as my avatar as well and I had him join Elite. After revamping CGC's starting storylines (changing the Elite vs. DeColts storyline from a six man to a four man storyline) Jack and Ricky DeColt are feuding with Eddie Chandler and Shooter Sean Deeley. The other main storyline that I decided to do at the start of the game is Steve DeColt vs. Alex DeColt for the CGC World Title. As for the All Shapes and Sizes storyline I left that in tact figuring I might as well start with that.

[GDE71]

How do you guys handle only one hour of TV??

[Bigpapa42]

How do you guys handle only one hour of TV??

 

Make heavy use of pre-show time. And the network will allow you to increase the show to 1.5 hours.

[rajde]

I am really liking CGC in 2013, seems to be my new favourite since USPW grew to national. I've bloated the roster to a ridiculous amount and trying to build some credible heels for the DeColts without turning anyone. The one thing that is killing my game is that I can't seem to get a good match out of anyone.

[Dragonmack]

I am really liking CGC in 2013, seems to be my new favourite since USPW grew to national. I've bloated the roster to a ridiculous amount and trying to build some credible heels for the DeColts without turning anyone. The one thing that is killing my game is that I can't seem to get a good match out of anyone.

 

Popularity is king in CGC, especially as there are really no gods of wrestling among your stars. Abuse the hell out of angles, I typically reduce it to 50\50 as angles with Eddie Chandler and any of the DeColts will usually get at least a B- to start off. The guys that can really go in the ring dont have the popularity to carry off good grades in the main event yet, so you need to build them up by leeching from the DeColts. Trent Shaffer and Shooter Sean Deeley are good places to start

[cappyboy]

How do you guys handle only one hour of TV??

 

Handle? That's an element I'm looking forward to about CGC with the expanded dark time. Get or or two more storylines in addition to the pre-set ones, feature the people with storylines on TV and throw everyone else pre or post show. Haven't figured out a tag team title storyline or direction for the belts. But I'm sure that will come once I get the full version.

[Oregano Jensen]

Well, the first thing I'd do as CGC is open a developmental promotion. A good one. They can afford it. Get a bunch of negotiating skill on your character so you can sign any rookies who seem promising to written deals, chuck them down there, sign some more rookies to dev deals.

 

You'll need to upgrade your road agent -- Chance doesn't have enough psych. The good news is, it makes all the sense in the world from a story perspective to hire Ed Monton or Eric Tyler, who are probably the two best unattached road agents in the game. (Pretty sure Ray Kingman is too old to sign with you, but he's obviously a great choice too if not.) You can also get a bump in announcing by hiring Mitch Naess, though Ditterich is marginally more competent than Papin was.

 

Other than that... the DeColts are now fairly interchangeable. Ricky's probably the best in the ring, Jack's solid tech skills match him up well against the best heels. Alex... eh. He won't kill you. As for ELITE, Chandler and Deeley are good technicians. DaLay is the cross you must bear. (Consider running a storyline in which Gargantuan challenges DaLay for the spot as the team's muscle, maybe? Neither's any good in the ring, but Gargantuan at least has the menace to do angles.) Any of the DeColts is great on the mic -- pair 'em up with Chandler and watch the sparks fly. Every time!

 

Beyond them, the Specialists Johnson and Thomas are your biggest talents, probably. Good balanced technicians with excellent psych. On the face side, Thrill Seeker is a gifted high-flyer, and Zeus and Joey Poison rarely let the side down. You don't necessarily have any breakout stars or prospects -- but my advice is, don't feel guilty about zeroing in on Davis Wayne Newton-type guys. I know it feels like cheating, but be honest with yourself, it makes perfect sense that he'd end up with CGC. Him and a couple guys like that. (Hell, they nerfed Newton anyway.) KC Glenn, Mainstream, Parker, Matt Keith. Maybe it seems weirder to me that it makes sense from a plot standpoint to hire those guys, because I usually play regional and below. Maybe you're used to snagging the top rookie talent. Go ahead with it.

 

But yeah. Flog the hell out of the DeColts, flog the hell out of angles. With the kind of short shows you have, you don't really need to go far beyond the top of the card. I know the instinct is to work the whole roster, but with CGC, you don't really need to. Star power rules the day.

[Luchador Canadiense]

I have such a hard time with the fact that the fans expect 35 minute main events when the show is only an hour long, and the ratio is 60%.

So either you have one match per show, or you push yourself to the maximum allowable 70% and squeeze in another short match each episode. And if you are doing only one match per show, how is the game grading your show, as there'd be no semi-main to grade?

I love CGC, but the question of how to book their shows without getting that extra half-hour baffles me.

[Blake Trask]

I reduce most expected main events. 35 mins for Sports entertainment? Nah.

[rajde]

I have such a hard time with the fact that the fans expect 35 minute main events when the show is only an hour long, and the ratio is 60%.

So either you have one match per show, or you push yourself to the maximum allowable 70% and squeeze in another short match each episode. And if you are doing only one match per show, how is the game grading your show, as there'd be no semi-main to grade?

I love CGC, but the question of how to book their shows without getting that extra half-hour baffles me.

 

If you think about it, it actually is the perfect format for a wrestling show. Rather than have a bunch of small matches, you have 1 match you can hype up, which could be decent. Then the rest of the time, you can do angles to build up matches for next week, long term angles, or ppvs.

[Luchador Canadiense]

If you think about it, it actually is the perfect format for a wrestling show. Rather than have a bunch of small matches, you have 1 match you can hype up, which could be decent. Then the rest of the time, you can do angles to build up matches for next week, long term angles, or ppvs.

 

It is, provided I am not being penalized for not having a semi-main event match!

[Oregano Jensen]

Yeah... 35 does no good on the TV shows. (And while most of the legit main eventers can do it, DaLay certainly can't, and who knows who you might want to promote eventually? Anyway, I always assume that if the ME is 35, the semi-main should be around 20, and with a 60% match ratio...)

 

Anyway, I usually drop it to around 15-20 for TV and 20-30 for events.

[Infernalmiko]

What do people think the future of the CGC is? Unlike the Stones, there are no more DeColts in the pipeline to debut. When the old Decolts finally start breaking down and retiring is CGC finished or if not who gets built up to the main event?

[TakerNGN74]

What do people think the future of the CGC is? Unlike the Stones, there are no more DeColts in the pipeline to debut. When the old Decolts finally start breaking down and retiring is CGC finished or if not who gets built up to the main event?

 

The two that I can think of off hand are Christian Price and Joey Poison, otherwise I am not really sure it's the DeColt's promotion and it's hard to picture it without them but it will happen eventually because they would have to retire.

 

My save with CGC is in May of 2013 and I signed Steven Parker a while back, he started as an opener but my plan is that I want to push him to the moon and make him a huge star in the company.

[Oregano Jensen]

Poison is 35, and even Price is 28.

 

Ricky DeColt and Sean Deeley are 28 and 27, respectively, so that's two of their elite (no pun intended) talents... if you want to lump Gargantuan in there, he's 27. Trent Shaffer is 27, and now a main eventer.

 

It's not the most exciting batch, but really, neither is the previous generation, at least in the ring. Ricky isn't appreciably worse than his brothers, and while none of the heels is the equal of Chandler on the mic, Deeley is just as good in the ring, with time to improve.

 

I mean, you could do the same thing for NOTBPW, and they come out even worse. They only have two guys 29 or younger who are midcarders, even -- and Danny Cavanagh and Erik Strong are hardly the basis for a future anything. (Heck, forget Ricky and Sean. Give me Gargantuan and Trent over those two.)

 

NOTBPW's entire main event is between the ages of 37 (Johnny Bloodstone) and 40 (Dan Stone)... upper midcarders range between 37 (Tim Westybrook/John Maverick) and 41 (RK Hayes and The Natural.)

 

Jack DeColt is 35, Alex is 38, and Chandler and DaLay are both 37. Then you have Shaffer and Ricky in the main event to start. CGC's upper-mid is also younger... you have Gargantuan, Price and Deeley, plus Poison (35), Nate Johnson (36) and Ryan Powell (32). And it's a lot easier to imagine the DeColt and Elite backbone of the promotion wrestling in CGC's style well past 40 than it is to imagine NOTBPW's core group continuing to keep up that demanding style.

 

No more Stones coming in until 2020, are there? Am I forgetting one? One Stone can't carry a whole promotion... and unless we want to see a 48-year-old Dan Stone and a 46-year-old Sean McFly challenging a 47-year-old Steve DeColt and a 46-year-old Johnny Bloodstone, there's going to be a few dry years in there either way.

 

I mean, they're both going to do the same thing ultimately. They're going to raid the indies, develop their own talent, and maybe hire a few guys from SWF and TCW. Just like everyone does.

[TakerNGN74]

No more Stones coming in until 2020, are there? Am I forgetting one?

 

Lucy Stone-McFly and David Stone!

[Bigpapa42]

I don't think CGC is in much trouble. Yeah, some of the top guys are getting up there a bit in age. But the CGC product is pretty powder-puff so they should be able to go late in their careers. I wouldn't be surprised to see Alex DeColt go for another decade. Even if there are no more DeColt's coming through, you can fake them - there is one DeColt graduate noted that he could be a cousin. Make a couple other fake cousins and you have a continued legacy. Or edit a DeColt regen into an actual DeColt.

[Big Roguey]

I don't think CGC is in much trouble. Yeah, some of the top guys are getting up there a bit in age. But the CGC product is pretty powder-puff so they should be able to go late in their careers. I wouldn't be surprised to see Alex DeColt go for another decade. Even if there are no more DeColt's coming through, you can fake them - there is one DeColt graduate noted that he could be a cousin. Make a couple other fake cousins and you have a continued legacy. Or edit a DeColt regen into an actual DeColt.

 

Ah, Intrepid Ian Identity.

[cappyboy]

Bought the game and have started a CGC game only to find myself having a creative block. The tag team belts. The Soliders of Fortune are getting kind of old and the only face team of non-DeColts are Zeus Maximillion and Stevie Grayson who don't quite ring true for me. If the promotion weren't already heel heavy I'd split them and turn Zeus. And while there are some decent unattached faces, nobody suggests a team to me. How are you guys booking the tag scene? Am I maybe overthinking in not wanting to go heel vs heel for the tag belts and hating on Zeus/Stevie? Wouldn't be the first time for me.

[UkWrestleFan]

<p>Never really played with CGC much on the previous versions of the game but got a pretty sweet game going with them in '13.</p><p> </p><p>

Using Steve DeColt as my avatar, I've had him return to CGC as a mega-face to helps the DeColts in their latest battle with Elite. The DeColts were getting severly outnumbered after Gargantuan joined Elite.</p><p> </p><p>

However, it's all part of a bigger plan! On the first PPV, The DeColts are set to face Elite in a 4-on-4 elimination match. But, Gargantuan & Nate Johnson are not able to compete for Elite as they are already involved in a match for the Canadian Title. So, Elite recruit a 4th member who they reveal to be Eddie Chandler.</p><p> </p><p>

On the final Title Bout Wrestling before the PPV, Steve DeColt faces Eddie Chandler in a Lumberjack Match where Elite & DeColt's are the lumberjacks. </p><p> </p><p>

During the match, Chandler gets knocked out after Dan DeLay "accidentily" hits him. Steve DeColt goes on to win the Lumberjack match.</p><p> </p><p>

On the night of the PPV, Elite announce Chandler is not fit to compete so they have replaced him with another "Canadian Legend". Throughout the show, The DeColt's speculate over who it could be. Steve DeColt says there aren't many "Canadian Legends" who would seriously consider joining Elite. They speculate over the likes of The Stones, Sean McFly...John Maverick?? </p><p> </p><p>

Finally, when the Main Event comes, Elite tell The DeColts they'll only be starting with 3 men and that they're big surprise is on his way. The surprise is eventually revealed when Elite are down to 1 man; Dan DeLay, while the DeColts are Steve & Alex. In the ring, the ref is distracted by Adrian Garcia and DeLay is about to smash a steel chair over a groggy Alex's head. Steve DeColt snatches the chair away from DeLay, but, in a shocking turn of events, he levels Alex DeColt!!!! </p><p> </p><p>

DeLay makes the cover as Garcia moves away from the ref. The ref turns around and makes the 3 count! Elite win!!</p><p> </p><p>

The crowd boo the hell out of DeColt as he celebrates with the rest of Elite.</p>