UkWrestleFan Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 <p>A question;</p><p> </p><p> In the above game, I plan to have the rest of Elite start to look at Steve DeColt as the leader of the group which results in Dan DeLay & Bobby Thompson quitting the group and starting their own version of the group (just like when the nWo become nWo Hollywood & nWo WolfPac)</p><p> </p><p> I don't want either group to lose the name, but, what could I call them? DeLay's group will be tweeners, so to speak. Feuding with Steve DeColt's 'Elite' but never being too friendly with the other DeColt's. I was thinking something like:</p><p> </p><p> - Ultra Elite (DeColt's Group)</p><p> </p><p> - Golden Elite (DeLay's group. The only thing I don't like about this is Ozzie Golden will be part of the group. Maybe 'Elite Evolution' as it will have some younger stars such as Davis Wayne Newton & Steven Parker)</p><p> </p><p> Unless anyone has some better ideas??</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 <p>Opened up Theasaurus for some alternation words for Elite. Nobility. Glitterati. Aristocracy. Beau Monde. Which I suppose may be leaning towards the dictionary definition of elites in society, and not athletic elite. Which could be an interesting theme for the stable, if you've got the right members.</p><p> </p><p> Olympians? What's Zeus doing?</p><p> Premier Athletes?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappyboy Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Self" data-cite="Self" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34937" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Opened up Theasaurus for some alternation words for Elite. Nobility. Glitterati. Aristocracy. Beau Monde. Which I suppose may be leaning towards the dictionary definition of elites in society, and not athletic elite. Which could be an interesting theme for the stable, if you've got the right members.<p> </p><p> Olympians? What's Zeus doing?</p><p> Premier Athletes?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Some good leg work there, Self. Love doing the thesaurus thing myself when I need naming ideas. I'd probably do a Nobility or Aristocracy thing myself. Beau Monde sounds like a lone person. Maybe a good name to give a turning Skip Beau. He certainly needs a pseudonym with that given name around his neck. While much as I like "Glitterati", that would seem to suggest you need a Frederique Antonio Garcia type. Or maybe a Ric Flair with you wanted your flamboyant guy to be macho enough to epoxy his sequins to his entrance robe.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="UkWrestleFan" data-cite="UkWrestleFan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34937" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p> - Golden Elite (DeLay's group. The only thing I don't like about this is Ozzie Golden will be part of the group. Maybe 'Elite Evolution' as it will have some younger stars such as Davis Wayne Newton & Steven Parker)</p><p> </p><p> Unless anyone has some better ideas??</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Or let me build on your idea here. Maybe you could call DeLay's group The Dynasty. Maybe bring in a young guy to be a kayfabed relative of DeLay's to continue the line once Dan retires. </p><p> </p><p> Or get him a protege with Japanese sensibility like Alan Parent who could adopt DeLay's name in honor of his mentorship. I could see a long term program where the DeColts and those following them try to convince the protege his mentor isn't worthy of such deep honor and being fought at every turn.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UkWrestleFan Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 <p>Good ideas, fellas <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> I like Nobility, but, maybe it's a little <em>too</em> face for this group.</p><p> </p><p> I could throw Zeus Maxamillion into the mix, too. I'd have a stable full of blondes if it was:</p><p> </p><p> Dan DeLay</p><p> Bobby Thomas</p><p> Zeus Maxamillion</p><p> Ozzie Golden</p><p> Davis Wayne Newton</p><p> Steven Parker</p><p> </p><p> Then I could run with the name 'The Gold Standard' (just to rip-off something from the real world) This would add the extra challenge of trying to find workers who are a) blonde and b) good enough for the stable.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juggaloninjalee Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 There is always something about CGC that makes me want to play them. Rarely do I run as CGC though. When I do play as them I always plan months ahead of storylines breaking up the DeColt family storyline wise. Lots of sibling rivalries that begin as friendly competition only to get more and more heated. On top of that the other personalities in CGC add fuel to the fire and pull them further apart. With me liking stables the Elite always seem to dominate CGC for me. I try to bring in some menacing workers for the stable and give them some henchman in their battle against the DeColts. What are the biggest challenges CGC face in TEW13? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonmack Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 There is always something about CGC that makes me want to play them. Rarely do I run as CGC though. When I do play as them I always plan months ahead of storylines breaking up the DeColt family storyline wise. Lots of sibling rivalries that begin as friendly competition only to get more and more heated. On top of that the other personalities in CGC add fuel to the fire and pull them further apart. With me liking stables the Elite always seem to dominate CGC for me. I try to bring in some menacing workers for the stable and give them some henchman in their battle against the DeColts. What are the biggest challenges CGC face in TEW13? Biggest challenge is what its been every version of TEW. For at least the first year, its a one trick pony of the DeColts. Alex, Ricky, and Jack are your best workers, your most over workers, and , with the exception of Eddie Chandler, the only ones that can consistently get you the ratings you need to maintain or grow. And in 2013, Alex's age is finally starting to catch up to him. Dalay and Deeley need to be in matches with the DeColts to be carried to good grades, and of the ones just below them, Trent Shaffer is the only one I have found that can easily and reliably be pushed into the main event within that years time. I do know in longer games, I have seen Lee Rivera become a huge star with a ton of overness, but that is a longer term investment before that will really pay off ( probably by boosting him with storylines with the DeColts.) I love CGC, but really, the only way to play them successfully is abuse the hell out of the DeColts for at least a year. Whether riding their backs, getting the stars you actually want to push heat by having them ride the DeColts backs, or just propping up the average matches with a ton of DeColt promos. ( In my past CGC games, I actually bump it down to 50\50 matches\angles, and then just run about 30-35 minutes worth of angles involving the DeColts and whoever is in the current storylines.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Kuma Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I have a fun CGC game going, but I have a small issue. While I have the huge angles going, all my big matches on TV end up getting C- or C, which disappoints me. What kind of road agent notes would I need to get the best TV match ratings? I have 90 mins of TV time and such. Weirdly enough, on PPV, I get good match ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakerNGN74 Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 I have a fun CGC game going, but I have a small issue. While I have the huge angles going, all my big matches on TV end up getting C- or C, which disappoints me. What kind of road agent notes would I need to get the best TV match ratings? I have 90 mins of TV time and such. Weirdly enough, on PPV, I get good match ratings. That was my problem with CGC as well which was why I only did a year with them before I stopped. I am doing a save with NOTBPW (yeah I know that it's not the NOTBPW thread) and I am doing slightly better with it than I was with CGC but getting good ratings for TV shows is obviously harder this year it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beeker Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 A question; - Ultra Elite (DeColt's Group) - Golden Elite (DeLay's group. The only thing I don't like about this is Ozzie Golden will be part of the group. Maybe 'Elite Evolution' as it will have some younger stars such as Davis Wayne Newton & Steven Parker) Unless anyone has some better ideas?? It's a DeColt... they can't walk past the letter E without turning it into a hybrid... Clearly there is Elite (Original group) and... D'Elite (DeColt's Elite... Theme music... Groove is in the Heart by De Lite!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I have a fun CGC game going, but I have a small issue. While I have the huge angles going, all my big matches on TV end up getting C- or C, which disappoints me. What kind of road agent notes would I need to get the best TV match ratings? I have 90 mins of TV time and such. Weirdly enough, on PPV, I get good match ratings. CGC audiences seem to respond to long matches. I've found 'open match' and 'slow build' to be the difference between a C and a B- in several cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker1976 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Is there really no DeColt coming anymore withing the next twenty years? Only way out would then probably the van Erich Way: after two van Erichs had already died they introduced a random worker as a cousin of the van Erichs. Of course fans and media found out fairly soon and WCCW had to apologize... Btw. the reason why I like to play with CGC so much is because it is not as overwhelming than SWF, so your roster and events are still manageable. Plus it has the great challenge of taking over the NOTBPW, which seems one of the tougher challenges in TEW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luchador Canadiense Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Btw. the reason why I like to play with CGC so much is because it is not as overwhelming than SWF, so your roster and events are still manageable. Plus it has the great challenge of taking over the NOTBPW, which seems one of the tougher challenges in TEW. Not really anymore. You can now just wait for them to implode, given the age of their stars and the fact that they have no one on their roster capable of putting on the same level of matches. Now CGC's biggest problem will be fighting SWF in a National battle, once they expand into Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Is there really no DeColt coming anymore withing the next twenty years? Only way out would then probably the van Erich Way: after two van Erichs had already died they introduced a random worker as a cousin of the van Erichs. Of course fans and media found out fairly soon and WCCW had to apologize... Btw. the reason why I like to play with CGC so much is because it is not as overwhelming than SWF, so your roster and events are still manageable. Plus it has the great challenge of taking over the NOTBPW, which seems one of the tougher challenges in TEW. Really none. None set in the default data. Which doesn't mean you can't create a future DeColt. There are some really nice re-renders of the entire DeColt clan which could suffice as the worker image, too. Overtaking NOTBPW seems somewhat easier in this version. I haven't done it with CGC, to be fair, but NOTBPW tends to get hit hard - HARD - by worker decline in the main event. I've seen McFly tank hard within 2-3 years. They can't replace the top guys with workers of a similar level fast enough so they end up being in a spot where they can't deliver those constant A main events like they can at the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Man, sounds like I should get a private CGC game going. In TEW10 it was always a challenge of maintaining. Keeping a strong main event as your stars are routinely poached by the looming, unstoppable easy-mode giant. Not that I want to build CGC to massive proportions (their size is a huge part of their charm for me) but... Sounds different. Different is fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapa42 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Man, sounds like I should get a private CGC game going. In TEW10 it was always a challenge of maintaining. Keeping a strong main event as your stars are routinely poached by the looming, unstoppable easy-mode giant. Not that I want to build CGC to massive proportions (their size is a huge part of their charm for me) but... Sounds different. Different is fun. Things definitely seem more varied in 2013. In some games, NOTBPW still churn out strong show after strong show at the start. In another game, they were all over the board in the first few months - some B+ but some B- and even a C+. The age of the main event scene is a huge issue for the AI and they don't seem to overcome it effectively. Unless they luck out in a given game and no one is on the decline or close to decline... In one watcher game I ran for 5 years, Davis Wayne Newton stayed at 4C the entire time. Was shocked as even turfed, he's pretty talented... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotr13 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Is there an "official" designation for what should be going on at Luck of the Draw? I'm thinking maybe a random paired tag team tournament like BattleBowl, or maybe a Royal Rumble type event, if there's nothing official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonmack Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Is there an "official" designation for what should be going on at Luck of the Draw? I'm thinking maybe a random paired tag team tournament like BattleBowl, or maybe a Royal Rumble type event, if there's nothing official. There's no specific AI instructions for the event, so its pretty much any way you want to do it. Random tag partners ala the older WCW events, or roulette wheel style like WWE's Las Vegas nights. You could even set up 'draw out of a hat' spots on preceding tv shows and then have them pull out gimmick matches. It's pretty much wide open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Wolf Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Is there an "official" designation for what should be going on at Luck of the Draw? I'm thinking maybe a random paired tag team tournament like BattleBowl, or maybe a Royal Rumble type event, if there's nothing official. I don't think there is anything official but that sounds like a pretty good plan for the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbritton987 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 While taking a break from my TCW game, I decided to start another with CGC (although my game file says USPW, I changed my mind last second ). It's obvious the CGC Roster needs a major overhaul, but it's not crucial enough to start firing people right off the bat. But after a few cards, it's obvious who needs to stay and who needs to go. My first change was the Match Lengths. Just like TCW, their Match Lengths are insane. The one thing that is beneficial for CGC is its vast tag team division, which can hide a lot of its rosters' flaws. Youth Energy & Specialists are instantly reunited, because honestly? All 4 are never going to be good Main Eventers, so it's best for them to be solid midcarders who can challenge for the Tag Team & Canadian Titles. Nate Johnson has good Star Quality, but his Entertainment skills are trash, that's what holds him back. CGC's Road Agents are terrible. I've decided to pay the extra bucks to get Professor Nero & Sam Keith in for PPA, both have 100 Psychology. Same goes for Mitch Naess to be the CGC Announcer. Both Jack & Alex DeColt are on the decline, but you really don't have a choice but to keep them at the top at the beginning, but sooner or later they have to gradually go down the card. 4 Months in, Alex is still my Champion, but not for much longer. Trent Shaffer is feuding with him, though I've yet to decide whether Shaffer will be the one to dethrone him. The reason I haven't decided yet? It's because I signed Jacob Jett early, and the man has been a BEAST. Plus, not only is he a Extremely Positive Influence, he has Excellent Star Quality and Good Entertainment Skills. In 3 months, he went from my lowest heel popularity wise to my 4th Highest behind DaLay, Chandler, & Shaffer. Joss Thompson is another solid signing but it's going to take awhile for him with virtually no Popularity. Of course, not every signing is going to be a Star. That's why I added Akima Brave & Sayeed Ali to be solid contributors to the roster. As contracts start to expire for the lesser needed members of the CGC Roster, I have my eyes set on the likes of Buddy Garner, Mainstream Hernandez, & Kirk Jameson, among others. And a note for newbs to CGC? Good luck with Gargantuan. Holy hell this guy can't get a good match rating. He's got 3 more years on contract so I'm going to give him plenty of time to improve...on my Pre Show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losttrem Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 In my CGC game it is november 2015 now. I got the promotion to #2 in the world on pace to surpass TCW for #1. It helped that I could bring in some stars in Squeeky McClean and Aaron Andrews. Marc DuBois was another guy I brought in but fired before I could make him a main eventer because he was just too much of a backstage cancer. Another awesome signing I made was Eddie Peak. I pushed him hard and he was about to beat Alex DeColt for the title... and died shortly before that could happen. Oh well. I brought in Jacob Jett and Matthew Keith early on and pushed them hard. Jett as an underdog face who is taken under the DeColt's wing and Keith as a cocky youth heel. Keith is my current World Champ and regularly pumps out matches in the 90s. In the beginning it's really just about getting the DeColt's pop in the 90s. I made a working agreement early on and brought in Tyson Baine to put the Decolts over. Also I lowered the match ratio to 50% and then to 40%. Some have commented that they like the smaller feel of CGC. And while I agree to some extent I always feel the need to go for #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Sam Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 That sucks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voeltzwagon Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Been my first time messing with CGC and I have to say I am rather liking it overall. I am not too good usually with feds that are more pop based, but this one hasn't felt too difficult to me. At least at the moment. I am sure if I want to strive for National it will take quite the effort. Especially if I want to stay there. Think I also got lucky due to only having one name on my decline list and that is Bret Fraser at three to four years. He only has a few months on his contract too so really that isn't a bad deal. Brought in Ed Monton for the road agent and snagged a few of the indy darlings at the start before anyone else snatched them up. Still fussing on the direction on where to go in the main event picture, but have at least a few good options. Also got tabs on a few guys at the other big promotions I might try to snag should their contracts end. I'm rather excited to see how things turn out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 You could even set up 'draw out of a hat' spots on preceding tv shows and then have them pull out gimmick matches. It's pretty much wide open. My vision for 'Luck of the Draw' is similar to this, but not quite. Essentially, the fighters each get a different randomly selected weapon, that becomes legal to use during the match. Everything from steel chairs and ladders to inflatable hammers and super soakers can be drawn. Often creating unfair and/or mismatched contests. 'Luck of the Draw' indeed. Totally ripped that off from Spartacus. The only thing I wouldn't do with that PPV is a Rumble. There's a show in (I think) September that already has the Battle Royal AI instruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotr13 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 CGC's Road Agents are terrible. I've decided to pay the extra bucks to get Professor Nero & Sam Keith in for PPA, both have 100 Psychology. Same goes for Mitch Naess to be the CGC Announcer. I never got around to it, because I switched saves, but I signed Keith with the intention of bringing in Greg and Matthew and having him be their on screen manager. I think you could get them over fairly fast with their dad talking them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotr13 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 My vision for 'Luck of the Draw' is similar to this, but not quite. Essentially, the fighters each get a different randomly selected weapon, that becomes legal to use during the match. Everything from steel chairs and ladders to inflatable hammers and super soakers can be drawn. Often creating unfair and/or mismatched contests. 'Luck of the Draw' indeed. Totally ripped that off from Spartacus. The only thing I wouldn't do with that PPV is a Rumble. There's a show in (I think) September that already has the Battle Royal AI instruction. Yeah, Last Man Standing has the Battle Royal instruction. Another idea I never got around to using was bringing in Bruce on a talent trade and having Gargantuan go over him in said Battle Royal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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