January 1997: A year focused on War

[Gungner]

It's hard NOT to come out victorious with WCW, as WWF's RAW is only an hour long and puts on shows with pretty bad grades... atleast in my game. First RAW had one angle and two matches, and scored a 72 grade. Oh, and their two pre-show matches was awesome, but since they don't count....

[Gungner]

Well, this mod is definately realistic. Three weeks in, and as WWF I have lost every tv-rating battle so far <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

[Frootloop]

Well, this mod is definately realistic. Three weeks in, and as WWF I have lost every tv-rating battle so far

 

Agreed. Realistic, but not too harsh that it's not fun to play. I feel like the mod-maker found a great balance between difficulty and playability. Kudos, for that! This is one of the best mods I've played in a long time.

[Jaysin]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jhd1" data-cite="jhd1" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35920" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Depends how deep you want the family to run, but I believe technically Yokozuna is/was related to Rocky Maivia, Rikishi, Umaga et al.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Rocky Maivia shouldn't have a blood relation with any of them. If anything, it should be a loyalty. They are not related. </p><p> </p><p> The father of Afa and Sika considered Peter Maivia to be a blood brother/godson depending on the source, but there is no actual blood relationship between them.</p>

[Gungner]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Frootloop" data-cite="Frootloop" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35920" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Agreed. Realistic, but not too harsh that it's not fun to play. I feel like the mod-maker found a great balance between difficulty and playability. Kudos, for that! This is one of the best mods I've played in a long time.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's not the best mod I have played, but somewhat close. Somethings are just not right in this mod. First show, Bret Hart gets the note "Had the audience in the palm of his hand going off-script", while the next show it said: "Bret Hart was horrible going off-script". Surely, that shouldn't be? </p><p> </p><p> And every match seems to get poor grades, no matter who is paired up with who.</p>

[jhd1]

<p>This is probably my favourite RW mod ever. I've always had issues with mods before being too 'realistic' to the point of it being far too difficult to play. This mod, however, I find strikes a really good balance. Put another way, if it was a bad mod I wouldn't have booked and written up five months worth of shows! <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Gungner" data-cite="Gungner" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35920" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It's not the best mod I have played, but somewhat close. Somethings are just not right in this mod. First show, Bret Hart gets the note "Had the audience in the palm of his hand going off-script", while the next show it said: "Bret Hart was horrible going off-script". Surely, that shouldn't be?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's nothing to do with the mod. All workers can have off nights (and great nights) when they are unscripted. That's basically the pros and cons of using the feature. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35920" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>And every match seems to get poor grades, no matter who is paired up with who.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've not had trouble with my own game. Who are you playing as?</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35920" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Rocky Maivia shouldn't have a blood relation with any of them. If anything, it should be a loyalty. They are not related. <p> </p><p> The father of Afa and Sika considered Peter Maivia to be a blood brother/godson depending on the source, but there is no actual blood relationship between them.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You learn something new every day <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> I was reading about Yokozuna on wikipedia which mentions The Rock as a member of the family (wiki calls Afa and Sika uncles in relation to Rocky too, as it happens).</p>

[Frootloop]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jhd1" data-cite="jhd1" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35920" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This is probably my favourite RW mod ever. I've always had issues with mods before being too 'realistic' to the point of it being far too difficult to play. This mod, however, I find strikes a really good balance. Put another way, if it was a bad mod I wouldn't have booked and written up five months worth of shows! <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> That's nothing to do with the mod. All workers can have off nights (and great nights) when they are unscripted. That's basically the pros and cons of using the feature. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I've not had trouble with my own game. Who are you playing as?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, I've not had that trouble either. In fact, playing as WWF, I may be getting slightly too GOOD of grades. Granted, it makes it fun that I have guys I can rely on to give me good matches, and my midcard blows at times, but I've never had it where a match that I predicted to knock it out of the park was a shit-storm.</p>

[jhd1]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Frootloop" data-cite="Frootloop" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35920" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yeah, I've not had that trouble either. In fact, playing as WWF, I may be getting slightly too GOOD of grades. Granted, it makes it fun that I have guys I can rely on to give me good matches, and my midcard blows at times, but I've never had it where a match that I predicted to knock it out of the park was a shit-storm.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> One thing to keep in mind regarding "too good grades" is that on TV especially it is harder for workers to gain popularity than in TEW2010 so you're not going to be transfering as much overness as before. However, at least in terms of overall show ratings you're not sliding towards cult just because you don't run Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker every week! <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Frootloop]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jhd1" data-cite="jhd1" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35920" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>One thing to keep in mind regarding "too good grades" is that on TV especially it is harder for workers to gain popularity than in TEW2010 so you're not going to be transfering as much overness as before. However, at least in terms of overall show ratings you're not sliding towards cult just because you don't run Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker every week! <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Trust me, not complaining. It's good that I can throw HBK, Mankind, Undertaker, Austin, Bret, Pillman, etc out there and get at least pretty good grades. WWF rose pretty fast, which I think was realistic since I was booking like a maniac, but seems to have leveled out at a plateau (at least in the states) for now, which I also think seems about how it should be. Everything in this mod is working fine, at least for me, imho.</p>

[Gungner]

<p>I'm playing as WWF, and my match grades can't above 80. (And no, it's not because I book Shawn Michaels vs Aldo Montoya every week) <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

Stone Cold vs 'Taker scored a 67, while Michaels vs Mankind scored a 78</p>

[jhd1]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Gungner" data-cite="Gungner" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35920" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm playing as WWF, and my match grades can't above 80. (And no, it's not because I book Shawn Michaels vs Aldo Montoya every week) <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Stone Cold vs 'Taker scored a 67, while Michaels vs Mankind scored a 78</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Any bad chemistry? What abou road agent notes?</p><p> </p><p> In five months I've had 36 matches rated 80 or above (I am trying to book realistically for the time, so I'm not having too many huge PPV-type matches on RAW). It's going to be difficult to compare, because I managed to get Austin to A across the US, but my match between Taker and Austin got a 93.</p><p> </p><p> To some extent the mod puts you in a window, whereby you can fairly quickly build up a few decent stars (Austin, HHH and Rocky being the obvious trio) with popularity that can then be used to put on better matches. While this applies to most mods, this one offers you a buffer in the sense that you are not failing at the beginning and have to build yourself up to break even - you start of at break even and you build your company towards growth.</p><p> </p><p> My Royal Rumble 1997 graded 81 overall, my last two PPVs were both 91, so you can see a steady progression as the game progresses.</p>

[Gungner]

Well, it has been that way in other mods too... Starting off a bit slowly, but then getting better and better grades. And no, no bad chemistry. It could be the "Jim Ross and Vince McMahon clash horribly at the announcers table" note, that did it though.

[Mattywood]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Gungner" data-cite="Gungner" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35920" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well, it has been that way in other mods too... Starting off a bit slowly, but then getting better and better grades. And no, no bad chemistry. It could be the "Jim Ross and Vince McMahon clash horribly at the announcers table" note, that did it though.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Probably explains why in real life, Vince eventually phased himself out of the announcer's booth. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Gungner]

<p>Well, I removed Vince from his announcing duties immidiately <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p>

Need a new colour commentator though, as Jerry Lawler is not available for Superstars, and not interested in signing a new contract.</p>

[jhd1]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Gungner" data-cite="Gungner" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35920" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well, I removed Vince from his announcing duties immidiately <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> Need a new colour commentator though, as Jerry Lawler is not available for Superstars, and not interested in signing a new contract.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Sunny? She worked on Shotgun Saturday Night. So did Brian Pillman while he was injured.</p>

[Frootloop]

I think I threw Jim Cornette in there. Or maybe it was Rick Rude until I brought him out to manage DX. He did alright in the position. I've got Jim Cornette in there now.

[Stennick]

The link on this is broken does anyone have a copy they can upload fairly quickly?

[Gungner]

Decided to take a break from WWF, and started a game with ECW.... And I'm having the time of my life! So fun to try and get ECW up in size, while struggling to get people to the shows.

[NWAvsWWF]

Haven't played this data much since releasing it but giving it a little go later, some cool stuff coming soon for the mod as RayW plans on releasing several future game saves with an alternate wrestling world, also once I get back on track with other things I was thinking about doing a multiplayer deal like SM82 has going on in the General Discussion section likely just not as many people involved though.

[Stennick]

Can you re up the data I can't seem to get it to download for me. Thanks

[Jaysin]

Both links seem to be working for me.

[Mattywood]

Any chance the worker pics will be redone? 2 Cold Scorpio is the pic applied to damn near every worker. The pics may be named for Worker A, but it's 2 Cold's mug on the picture. Then there's the issue with Sendspace. >.<

[jhd1]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Matt Shannon" data-cite="Matt Shannon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35920" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Any chance the worker pics will be redone? 2 Cold Scorpio is the pic applied to damn near every worker. The pics may be named for Worker A, but it's 2 Cold's mug on the picture. Then there's the issue with Sendspace. >.<</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Actually it isn't. The thumbnail is of 2 Cold Scorpio (for whatever reason), but the pictures themselves are fine.</p>

[Mattywood]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jhd1" data-cite="jhd1" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="35920" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Actually it isn't. The thumbnail is of 2 Cold Scorpio (for whatever reason), but the pictures themselves are fine.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I didn't think to check that. <img alt=":o" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/redface.png.900245280682ef18c5d82399a93c5827.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Turns out you're right. ^_^</p>

[mrwhippy]

Back into this mod again, playing as WWF. I'm into August 1997 and have grown to international, thus winning the war fairly comfortably at the minute.

 

My PPV buy rates are on a par with WCW but despite rolling out B+ shows weekly (and the odd A), my TV ratings are around 2.3 while WCW are up at 5.5 with B/B- shows. Is it purely because TNT are bigger than USA Network that this happens? Can TV stations get bigger? I'd like to stay loyal to USA Network but if they don't grow I'm probably going to have to jump to another station (like I just have in Britain/Europe).