TEW2020 Discussion Thread

[landxx]

Sadly 65 has been the cap since 07. Adam has stated 65 there not relevant to the current game world anymore. You said jim ross. What about Vince McMahon is always out. I honestly deleted everyone over 64 before I started a game in tew 2016. Since they willl just sit there.

Yeah and many more this thing dont really bothers me because there big world in any real world mod but still it would be awesome that we could hire somoene who is 65+ old and dont get the message that they want retire in peace

[nerodragomir1]

Could you imagine booking 4 straight hours of Raw or an 8 hour PPV? Who in the hell needs that much time? I do love that the time has been increased. I just shake at the idea of booking a TV show for 4 hours or a PPV for 8. I sometimes could genuinely see me booking a PPV for 4'ish hours for a New Japan supercard. Other than that. I'll keep my TV shows at an hour thirty & PPV's at two hours thirty minutes for 95% of my shows. I can see some psycho's here booking an eight hour show or booking two shows a week at four hours a piece.

[nerodragomir1]

Maybe he's already addressed this, but I would love if they increased the amount of words you can use for Free angle segments. I think/hope they added the same option as making a regular segment. How you have a box to add more info to the segment at hand. I'd really love that. The regular angle writer screen is too slow & cumbersome.

[TeemuFoundation]

Could you imagine booking 4 straight hours of Raw or an 8 hour PPV? Who in the hell needs that much time? I do love that the time has been increased. I just shake at the idea of booking a TV show for 4 hours or a PPV for 8. I sometimes could genuinely see me booking a PPV for 4'ish hours for a New Japan supercard. Other than that. I'll keep my TV shows at an hour thirty & PPV's at two hours thirty minutes for 95% of my shows. I can see some psycho's here booking an eight hour show or booking two shows a week at four hours a piece.

4h TV shows and 8h PPVs will probably be needed soon for real life WWE mods.

[nerodragomir1]

4h TV shows and 8h PPVs will probably be needed soon for real life WWE mods.

 

That's a bone chilling thought.

 

They already book 10 hour PPV's though

[Vinsmoker]

Could you imagine booking 4 straight hours of Raw or an 8 hour PPV? Who in the hell needs that much time? I do love that the time has been increased. I just shake at the idea of booking a TV show for 4 hours or a PPV for 8. I sometimes could genuinely see me booking a PPV for 4'ish hours for a New Japan supercard. Other than that. I'll keep my TV shows at an hour thirty & PPV's at two hours thirty minutes for 95% of my shows. I can see some psycho's here booking an eight hour show or booking two shows a week at four hours a piece.

 

A lot of NJPW shows last ~8 hours, with the first few matches having a very low attendance and no importance really. Mostly them being Young Lions and Legends in matches lasting ~20 minutes. Then there are many video packages inbetween each match and 3 hours in the main-card start.

 

Obviously we will have to see how that would translate into the game

[LoganRodzen]

Really pumped that it seems to be progressing so well. I look forward to the live journal portion as that always seems to be the most interesting updates. Hoping we’re still on track for a December release. I already told my wife what she can get me for Christmas!!

[franticloser]

Woo 75 posts in, and so many new things. My hype is already at max, and I can't wait to find out how things are progressing and what may be in store!

[TeemuFoundation]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="nerodragomir1" data-cite="nerodragomir1" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That's a bone chilling thought.<p> </p><p> They already book 10 hour PPV's though</p></div></blockquote><p> Probably the biggest reason I stopped watching around the time 3 hour RAWs became a thing, and never looked back. And from what I hear, it's only gotten worse. No wonder they're losing viewers; no adult can be expected to have that much time for watching fake fighting. And yes, it's a children's product, but I think the majority of their audience has still been adult males.</p>

[nerodragomir1]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Vinsmoker" data-cite="Vinsmoker" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>A lot of NJPW shows last ~8 hours, with the first few matches having a very low attendance and no importance really. Mostly them being Young Lions and Legends in matches lasting ~20 minutes. Then there are many video packages inbetween each match and 3 hours in the main-card start.<p> </p><p> Obviously we will have to see how that would translate into the game</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So are you saying RW shows go 8 hours? I have to respectfully disagree. A quick WrestlingData check shows their cards being much lower than that. Take the last WK for example. It was just shy of 3 hours. Their smaller shows being anywhere from 1 hour 30 minutes. to medium shows going around 2 hours. If you add video packages & random stuff in-between matches. That would make their longest shows a bit over 3 hours.</p>

[Vinsmoker]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="nerodragomir1" data-cite="nerodragomir1" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So are you saying RW shows go 8 hours? I have to respectfully disagree. A quick WrestlingData check shows their cards being much lower than that. Take the last WK for example. It was just shy of 3 hours. Their smaller shows being anywhere from 1 hour 30 minutes. to medium shows going around 2 hours. If you add video packages & random stuff in-between matches. That would make their longest shows a bit over 3 hours.</div></blockquote><p> That's only the television/NJPW World portion of the actual events.</p><p> Attending them live is a different experience. Same with WWE show, where a Raw taping is 4+, with WWE Main Event stuff and dark matches, etc.</p><p> </p><p> It's something that hasn't been simulated in the TEW series, afaik, but it is definitely something that happens. In Japan "dead-air" before the show is barely a case.</p>

[joshspicer]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="nerodragomir1" data-cite="nerodragomir1" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So are you saying RW shows go 8 hours? I have to respectfully disagree. A quick WrestlingData check shows their cards being much lower than that. Take the last WK for example. It was just shy of 3 hours. Their smaller shows being anywhere from 1 hour 30 minutes. to medium shows going around 2 hours. If you add video packages & random stuff in-between matches. That would make their longest shows a bit over 3 hours.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The last Wrestle Kingdom was an outlier in many ways, least of which was its fairly short run time.</p><p> </p><p> Dominion and the G1 Special in Dallas were both four hours. Most standard New Japan supercards are by default.</p>

[nerodragomir1]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TeemuFoundation" data-cite="TeemuFoundation" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Probably the biggest reason I stopped watching around the time 3 hour RAWs became a thing, and never looked back. And from what I hear, it's only gotten worse. No wonder they're losing viewers; no adult can be expected to have that much time for watching fake fighting. And yes, it's a children's product, but I think the majority of their audience has still been adult males.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's 3 hours of really bad TV. I don't watch it now, haven't in a long time, but I do keep up with the PPV's. Apparently, from what I've been hearing. The old, out of touch fart, has decided that whenever they go to commercial. They aren't allowed to have wrestling. Which means every match has to have some B.S ending in the first couple minutes. How does that make any sense? What do the fans do during the commercial? Do the wrestlers just stand there & look confused? Sounds really stupid to me.</p>

[Gregkendell86]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="nerodragomir1" data-cite="nerodragomir1" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Could you imagine booking 4 straight hours of Raw or an 8 hour PPV? Who in the hell needs that much time? I do love that the time has been increased. I just shake at the idea of booking a TV show for 4 hours or a PPV for 8. I sometimes could genuinely see me booking a PPV for 4'ish hours for a New Japan supercard. Other than that. I'll keep my TV shows at an hour thirty & PPV's at two hours thirty minutes for 95% of my shows. I can see some psycho's here booking an eight hour show or booking two shows a week at four hours a piece.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I play with other people. So I always book 8hr shows. I won't see the game again for a week. So I get everything in at once.</p>

[BaxterV]

<p>Referee's</p><p> </p><p>

Shouldn't match lengths and Match Intensity be included in the calculation of how much matches a referee can do on a night? Saying that small companies = smaller workload seems odd.</p>

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The "Talk To Worker" feature will be your new friend. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I really hope so. People never really retire from wrestling anyway. So most of them should always be willing to come back for the right price. On another similar point, I hope time decline is a little more balanced in the upcoming game. I know it is needed for realism and also to make sure the AI actually renews their roster and ME scene, but it's too...messy right now. As soon as decline starts giving penalties, it's like someone's career is over. Many wrestlers made a living out of the business after time decline and still had the occasional great match in between. Sting is a prime example. The decline became noticeable at some point, but it only really became a factor to worry in his final few years.</p><p> </p><p> The Undertaker was the same thing. (And there are many other examples) He still got carried to a few good matches after his decline started, but his last years have been horrendous. Decline should work a bit more like that. Right now it feels like as soon as the effects start to take effect, someone can't main event not even for a player controlled company safely.</p><p> </p><p> The age at which it occurs should probably be a bit more adjusted. Shawn Michaels actually had a Shawn Michaels performance in Saudi Arabia. It was just unlucky that he was in the ring with 2 nearly dead carcasses and an injured nearly semi-dead one. If he had wrestled a Bryan or a Styles, that would have been "some good "stuff"!!!!" (To paraphrase Vince, in Jon Moxley's Voice.) While the options in theory allows for a multitude of ages, the fact is that most people get in decline in a age where most worker's prime would probably still be in effect. Maybe near its end, but in effect.</p><p> </p><p> Retirement age should not have a maximum to be set at, to be honest. So many people in wrestling work well in to their high 70s and even eighties sometimes. Heck, the oldest living wrestler was near 100 years old a few years ago. He's now a centenary, but dunno if he has wrestled recently. Obviously not everyone will be like that, but most wrestlers will stay as long as they can either for money, fame, glory, a combination of the aforementioned, simply all of them or the pure incapacity to abdicate whatever makes their clock tick. Non wrestlers last even longer.</p><p> </p><p> So while I do have hopes for the talk to worker feature, some stuff I hope will be addressed in other features to make it feel more...human. Ric Flair would probably still be wrestling if he didn't have WWE's backup. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[BaxterV]

<p>I'm intrigued</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Gregkendell86" data-cite="Gregkendell86" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I play with other people. So I always book 8hr shows. I won't see the game again for a week. So I get everything in at once.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Wait how do you do that? Do you exchange the save file?</p>

[Vinsmoker]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BaxterV" data-cite="BaxterV" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Shouldn't match lengths and Match Intensity be included in the calculation of how much matches a referee can do on a night? Saying that small companies = smaller workload seems odd.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> In smaller companies referees don't have someone constantly screaming into their ears and smaller mistakes are overlooked and forgiven.</p><p> </p><p> But yeah. I imagine "Workload" does infact entrail match lengths and match intensity, similar to how it affects wrestlers on the roster.</p>

[Wayne28]

I have a good feeling this game is coming out before Christmas 2019. Anyone else feel same way?

[Gregkendell86]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BaxterV" data-cite="BaxterV" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Wait how do you do that? Do you exchange the save file?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I give it to my roommate via usb. He passes it along via google drive or dropbox and so on. Technology is awesome.</p>

[Gregkendell86]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Wayne28" data-cite="Wayne28" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I have a good feeling this game is coming out before Christmas 2019. Anyone else feel same way?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Feb 2020 is my date. </p><p> First month always full of updates </p><p> So march have it playable </p><p> Real world mods probably around July.</p><p> So about a year from now you will be booking hogan vs Goldberg in hive mod or booking hogan vs savage in mod squad mod.</p>

[Dolfanar]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Vinsmoker" data-cite="Vinsmoker" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Attending them live is a different experience. Same with WWE show, where a Raw taping is 4+, with WWE Main Event stuff and dark matches, etc.</p><p> </p><p> It's something that hasn't been simulated in the TEW series, afaik, but it is definitely something that happens. In Japan "dead-air" before the show is barely a case.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You can do the Raw/Main Event/Dark Match in TEW 2016...</p>

[ChairToFace]

You keep referencing Saudia Arabia shows where the building is a 100 plus degrees.... I don't even step outside my house in those temperatures let alone attempt to wrestle in them. Add time decline to that and that is what you are witnessing.

 

Super Showdown 2018 (the show with HHH vs Taker) was in Australia, not Saudi Arabia. For the most part in October, it's not burning hot in Melbourne during that month.

 

Also, just look at Taker's matches over the last 5 years. Most of the time his opponent has to carry him, and if the match lasts longer than 5 minutes, it gets worse. His match with Cena at Mania 34 had the decency to be a short and quick affair. His bout with HHH in October later that year went a dreadful 25 minutes, in fair temperatures.

 

So heat probably doesn't have much to do with all of Taker's poor performances. His age, does.

[Vinsmoker]

You can do the Raw/Main Event/Dark Match in TEW 2016...

 

Which is something completely different, than having a crowd being simulated of actually sitting through all of that.

 

You can have a 3 hour Main Event right before a 3 hour Raw without tiring the crowd. By counting that as a singular 6 hour taping, things would simulate reality more

[TeemuFoundation]

Which is something completely different, than having a crowd being simulated of actually sitting through all of that.

 

You can have a 3 hour Main Event right before a 3 hour Raw without tiring the crowd. By counting that as a singular 6 hour taping, things would simulate reality more

Adam has stated in this very thread that this is how it's going to be. The crowd will be simulated having been sitting through everything you put out that night in that arena.

Feb 2020 is my date.

First month always full of updates

So march have it playable

Real world mods probably around July.

So about a year from now you will be booking hogan vs Goldberg in hive mod or booking hogan vs savage in mod squad mod.

Speak for yourself, I make my own real world mods. I hate people assuming that your only choice is to play other people's mods.