Too Sweet Spartan Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 <p>Got you. Well I'll just do what I do best, call out into the GDS abyss and see who responds.</p><p> </p><p> Emark? Archer? MLT? <span style="color:#FFFFFF;">YOU, yeah you reading this right now? </span> </p><p> </p><p> Any new perspectives on night writeup and people sharing reads are always appreciated.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Sweet Spartan Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Heck, I'll even take Jaded. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zergon Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p> Zerg, sorry for missing this earlier. The simple answer is every vote gives us information, no matter if it goes to lynch or not. Rev and TNS answered everything else basically.</p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> No worries, I got my answer and I´m sure I have plenty more questions coming. Speaking of which:</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> And that would make this Opulent. So it reads to me like scum killed indy and town apprehended town.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I was under impression that town can´t do night kills so how this would work? Only does anything is target is criminal (so scum, town with criminal record or third party)?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That's a possibility. It's not clear if Space Marshall is sk or town aligned at the moment.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Wouldn´t Marshall being Sk mean that he would be aligned with TBP or does Individual Aligned mean that he has no partners even if there would be more than one? </p><p> </p><p> Sorry about all the questions, I don´t plan to make this as "lets teach Zergon how to play this game" game but I´m kind of learning while playing and asking questions is the quickest way to do so. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayelek Posted April 8, 2019 Author Share Posted April 8, 2019 <strong><span style="font-size:14px;">Opulent is replacing Paws7297.</span></strong> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Running a bit on slowband for the next days...seems like scum killed indy and the Marshall/Sheriff role (internet too slow to look into symantics) got one of the crew. Then again...a strange crew role to have.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Sweet Spartan Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 <p>You're not Jaded, Zergon. <img alt=":mad:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/mad.png.69834f23b9a8bf290d98375f56f1c794.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Just kidding. Glad to help.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zergon" data-cite="Zergon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I was under impression that town can´t do night kills so how this would work? Only does anything is target is criminal (so scum, town with criminal record or third party)?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Some town can, town vigilante is a role that has that power. </p><p> </p><p> I'd suggest checking this out: <a href="http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=148" rel="external nofollow">http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=148</a></p><p> </p><p> It lists common roles and terminology. Any role can be town or scum, it's just a matter of how it is used. So a killing role could theoretically be town. And something seemingly innocent could be mafia.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zergon" data-cite="Zergon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Wouldn´t Marshall being Sk mean that he would be aligned with TBP or does Individual Aligned mean that he has no partners even if there would be more than one? </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I take individual aligned to mean that they were on their own and had their own unique goal for winning. If Space Marshall is SK, it doesn't mean that they were aligned with other indy players. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zergon" data-cite="Zergon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Sorry about all the questions, I don´t plan to make this as "lets teach Zergon how to play this game" game but I´m kind of learning while playing and asking questions is the quickest way to do so. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It is better to ask questions and learn than be quiet and not understand what is happening.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Sweet Spartan Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rayelek" data-cite="Rayelek" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong><span style="font-size:14px;">Opulent is replacing Paws7297.</span></strong></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Oh, that's exciting. Welcome back Opulent, glad you're not dead anymore.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 I'm starting to think there is Crew Aligned and something else ... not necessarily being Clark Aligned but a possible mason/usurper group. If Crew Aligned woud target crew Aligned, that should be a clear vig...it seems like this is different. That being said, role-wise I don't have a criminal record or background...I'm surprised Opulent had that role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Sweet Spartan Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 <p>I should follow up with a question of my own, Zergon.</p><p> </p><p> You're new and have a fresh perspective, anyone standing out to you as particularly scummy?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bak42 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zergon" data-cite="Zergon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I was under impression that town can´t do night kills so how this would work?</div></blockquote>Generally speaking, but there is the "vigilante" role which is a townie with a night kill.<p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zergon" data-cite="Zergon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Wouldn´t Marshall being Sk mean that he would be aligned with TBP or does Individual Aligned mean that he has no partners even if there would be more than one? </div></blockquote>Personally, I have a huge problem with this "Space Marshall is a SK" theory. Maybe it's just me, but the term space marshall makes me think of air marshalls, which are cops. You know, good guys. I think the marshall is actually our town vig, and tbp was actually the SK but was killed by the scum before doing any killing.<p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zergon" data-cite="Zergon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Sorry about all the questions, I don´t plan to make this as "lets teach Zergon how to play this game" game but I´m kind of learning while playing and asking questions is the quickest way to do so. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Don't worry about it, we all had a first game once.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Opulent Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 You can't get rid of me that easily <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zergon" data-cite="Zergon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>No worries, I got my answer and I´m sure I have plenty more questions coming. Speaking of which:<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I was under impression that town can´t do night kills so how this would work? Only does anything is target is criminal (so scum, town with criminal record or third party)?</p></div></blockquote>Your impression is pretty much wrong. There are many town abilities that can kill, number one being Vigilante. The one in question seems to be a kind of twist on jailor. Instead of killing them, he is jailing them for what appears to be the rest of the game. The standard Jailor just puts them in jail for a night and day phase, without giving us a role. It can be used to protect or block (depending on the targets ability). Vigilante straight up kills. PGO (paranoid gun handler), kills anyone that targets them.<p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zergon" data-cite="Zergon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Wouldn´t Marshall being Sk mean that he would be aligned with TBP or does Individual Aligned mean that he has no partners even if there would be more than one? </div></blockquote>You can have more than one individually aligned person. Normally they aren't in align with each other either. I think what kind of confuses you is how SF ended up carrying on Death's role... but SF was what we call a backup.. SF was town aligned until Death died, then changed. SO he was never actually aligned with anyone else.<p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zergon" data-cite="Zergon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Sorry about all the questions, I don´t plan to make this as "lets teach Zergon how to play this game" game but I´m kind of learning while playing and asking questions is the quickest way to do so. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> Yes, because there is so much stuff about mafia out there compared to when we first started playing, so many "new" roles.... which are really the same role with another name. It's like someone is writing down everyone's idea to make a role more interesting, when it could just say Blocker, Protector, Investigator, Bus Driver, Vigilante, Psycho, etc. So instead of a Blocker, you are a car sales man, talking so much that their target missed the whole night phase (blocker).</p><p> </p><p> lol... Why do I do that.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bak42 Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 You can't get rid of me that easily Meh, you still have a ways to go before you break my record of roles in a single game. A few years back in the Power Rangers mafia game we had, I died 3 times in 3 different roles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 To the person that jailed Opulent, do not feel bad. Without the knife being thrown in there, I might have thought one way... but with the knife makes me think you just jailed someone that might have been able to be recruited to the scum team. Just... I would have rather waited until that happened before jailing him. He's a good asset to town as long as that's his win condition. Also, the description of him didn't seem like a big meanie either... How would we know it happened in the first place? As far as I’m concerned preventing a dangerous outcome is far better than maybe waiting until he’s even more dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 You can't get rid of me that easily Saving the scum team huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Sweet Spartan Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 You can't get rid of me that easily Welcome back Opulent, glad you're back in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Opulent Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Would still like to see Emark pushed but we need to open multiple avenues of pressure early on otherwise we will stall out like last phase. No lynching isn't helping us much. Notably people speculating about Opulent v1's death seem to be distracting or creating a threat that likely isn't there. Seems like a specific role on role interaction to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zergon Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 You're not Jaded, Zergon. Just kidding. Glad to help. Some town can, town vigilante is a role that has that power. I'd suggest checking this out: http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=148 It lists common roles and terminology. Any role can be town or scum, it's just a matter of how it is used. So a killing role could theoretically be town. And something seemingly innocent could be mafia. I take individual aligned to mean that they were on their own and had their own unique goal for winning. If Space Marshall is SK, it doesn't mean that they were aligned with other indy players. It is better to ask questions and learn than be quiet and not understand what is happening. That´s what I get for asking questions, I thought I had finally catched up and now I have an entire new threat to read? On more serious noet, thanks a lot for that link, it will come handy. Generally speaking, but there is the "vigilante" role which is a townie with a night kill. Personally, I have a huge problem with this "Space Marshall is a SK" theory. Maybe it's just me, but the term space marshall makes me think of air marshalls, which are cops. You know, good guys. I think the marshall is actually our town vig, and tbp was actually the SK but was killed by the scum before doing any killing. Don't worry about it, we all had a first game once. Your impression is pretty much wrong. There are many town abilities that can kill, number one being Vigilante. The one in question seems to be a kind of twist on jailor. Instead of killing them, he is jailing them for what appears to be the rest of the game. The standard Jailor just puts them in jail for a night and day phase, without giving us a role. It can be used to protect or block (depending on the targets ability). Vigilante straight up kills. PGO (paranoid gun handler), kills anyone that targets them. You can have more than one individually aligned person. Normally they aren't in align with each other either. I think what kind of confuses you is how SF ended up carrying on Death's role... but SF was what we call a backup.. SF was town aligned until Death died, then changed. SO he was never actually aligned with anyone else. Yes, because there is so much stuff about mafia out there compared to when we first started playing, so many "new" roles.... which are really the same role with another name. It's like someone is writing down everyone's idea to make a role more interesting, when it could just say Blocker, Protector, Investigator, Bus Driver, Vigilante, Psycho, etc. So instead of a Blocker, you are a car sales man, talking so much that their target missed the whole night phase (blocker). lol... Why do I do that. Thanks for both of you as well. Always helpful on having someone more experienced to tell you how things work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Opulent Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Saving the scum team huh? I wouldn't mind playing y'all for fools, but sadly that will have to wait. I am saving a decent town role from going to waste though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 I wouldn't mind playing y'all for fools, but sadly that will have to wait. I am saving a decent town role from going to waste though.So, you think Rev's scum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zergon Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 I should follow up with a question of my own, Zergon. You're new and have a fresh perspective, anyone standing out to you as particularly scummy? Not particularly scummy, then again, I don´t think I´m yet experienced enough to really find scum even if they stand right in front of me. Eternal Phoenix is one I had my eyes early on since mainly because of that "I´m always going to be lazy on first few days" but I didn´t see much challenge on that so I´d figured it was just him acknowledging his usual playing style. Other than that it´s mostly just the basic who haven´t posted much and who haven´t given reasoning for that like Eliphas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Opulent Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 So, you think Rev's scum? I’d definitely put a scum lean on him so far, but it’s not my strongest scum read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 I’d definitely put a scum lean on him so far, but it’s not my strongest scum read Are you talking strictly as far as this phase, or you want to keep going with Emark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too Sweet Spartan Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Not particularly scummy, then again, I don´t think I´m yet experienced enough to really find scum even if they stand right in front of me. Eternal Phoenix is one I had my eyes early on since mainly because of that "I´m always going to be lazy on first few days" but I didn´t see much challenge on that so I´d figured it was just him acknowledging his usual playing style. Other than that it´s mostly just the basic who haven´t posted much and who haven´t given reasoning for that like Eliphas. Hmm. Thanks for your reads, Zergon. Feel free to ask your scum chat if you have questions too. I'm sure they can help you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 Hmm. Thanks for your reads, Zergon. Feel free to ask your scum chat if you have questions too. I'm sure they can help you out. LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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