Chaos On The Clarke! [Starship Mafia 1] Game Thread

[Zergon]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Nobody told you to hold your tongue, they were just reading what you did post. <p> </p><p> I think many found your defensive reaction to his read much more interesting than OP's read itself tbh.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> There is always something to read from a lynch. No matter how that person flips we start to build a voting history, can see who pushed it, who jumped on late etc</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Thanks for the answers Zergon, appreciate your mindset.<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> The conversation itself helps and a lynch makes things more clear. If we have 3 or 4 main people push for Emark and then later on he flips scum, I feel better about those who pushed on him. Likewise, if he comes up scum later, it is helpful to come back to this day phase and see who was pushing for us not to go for him.</p><p> </p><p> And vice versa for if he flips town, then I feel worse about those who suspect him and better about those who pushed against it.</p><p> </p><p> Obviously mafia isn't so black and white but still, it's a helpful starting point.</p><p> </p><p> Do I think Emark will get lynched this day phase? Doubt it.</p><p> Do I think town would benefit if he was? Maybe. I would say it is far from certain he is scum but I'm a fan of voting records and having people put recorded actions behind their words. </p><p> </p><p> Still, last game with Kijar and Emark (again, ironically) not getting the lynch early on benefited town in the long run. Since both players showed their skill/helpfulness later on when it was needed. </p><p> </p><p> I feel like that was just a lot of talking in a circle and not really answering your question but hopefully that helps. If it doesn't make sense, I can try to explain it better.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks to both of you for your answers.</p><p> </p><p> What you said makes sense, obviously not black & white but I think I got the basic idea why lynch could be useful even on day 1 even if it hits townie. Not going to completely chance my current mindset about day 1 lynch of course but I do keep this on mind for future games.</p>

[Imarevenant]

<p><strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote:Emark</span></strong></p><p> </p><p>

I think this is the right call today.</p>

[moon_lit_tears]

<p>I don’t think lynching day 1 is cool. I won’t be putting a vote.</p><p> </p><p>

I do think the last few games have had some heat in them and we all need to take a breath and let cooler heads prevail. </p><p> </p><p>

All we are doing is giving scum good direction. Let’s all come together and lynch Jadeds crew!</p>

[BlueStar]

I'm about ... not sure if Emark is the right way to go...the conversation got a bit strange though.

[BlueStar]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote:Emark</span></strong><p> </p><p> I think this is the right call today.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moon_lit_tears" data-cite="moon_lit_tears" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don’t think lynching day 1 is cool. I won’t be putting a vote.<p> </p><p> I do think the last few games have had some heat in them and we all need to take a breath and let cooler heads prevail. </p><p> </p><p> All we are doing is giving scum good direction. Let’s all come together and lynch Jadeds crew!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Problem is that with not lynching D1 we might get to the same point as we are now. We'd be relying on abilities instead of old school scum hunting.</p>

[moon_lit_tears]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Problem is that with not lynching D1 we might get to the same point as we are now. We'd be relying on abilities instead of old school scum hunting.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> We go into day 2 with a bit more insight though. Yes we will be relying on abilities, but right now we can push to out roles and give scum good night one targets to go after. What do we do if Rmatk was pushed harder and winds up being a protector? A watcher? A town vig? I’m not saying he’s town or scum. I’m just saying day one is usually a bunch of nonsense posts an an occasional push. I do feel we gain a lot from the talk of day one, but I’m my own opinion a day one lynch is not usually good fir town, and honestly no fun fir the player getting lynched especially if they are a town power role.</p>

[Rayelek]

<p><strong><span style="font-size:18px;">Day Phase One Has Ended.</span></strong></p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Emark - 4</strong> (Opulent, djthefunkchris, Too Sweet Spartan, Imarevenant)</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>No Vote - 18</strong> (lukess11, Destiny, bak42, Tha Black Phenom, Leion, The Two, I Effin Rule, Eternal Phoenix, Bluestar, BHK1978, Michgcs, The Archer, Moon_lit_tears, Zergon, Teh_showtime, Paws7297, Emark, Eliphas)</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>No Lynch was acheived.</strong></p><p> </p><p>

<span style="font-size:14px;"><strong>Day One</strong></span></p><p> </p><p>

With the peculiar death of janitor Scruffy the day prior, the denizens of the UNH CLarke found themselves in the ship's mess to discuss the happenings of the day. Accusations were exchanged, ideas were speculated, but the day ended with simply insufficient information, and many retired to their cabins.</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>It is now Night Phase One. You have until 17:30 GMT (13:30 EST) Monday April 8 to send in Night Action PMs to BOTH Rayelek & Derek B.</strong></p>

[djthefunkchris]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Imarevenant" data-cite="Imarevenant" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Nobody told you to hold your tongue, they were just reading what you did post. <p> </p><p> I think many found your defensive reaction to his read much more interesting than OP's read itself tbh.</p></div></blockquote><p> He did kind of have an explanation for that, as well as not being around to defend himself as much as he would like. I obviously have to weigh the history he was talking about between him and Opulent, but.... I mean, that was a different game. </p><p> </p><p> You are a different player this game then that game and so is he. You have to play each role to your best ability, not hold grudges, think of him as a new player as well, etc. We can't get so personal with each other, as each game we are different roles. </p><p> </p><p> Example: I can call someone scum of the earth this game, in the most disrespectful, thoughtless way imaginable (within reason), trying to get a reaction and trying to meet my win conditions. The very next game I might not even remember who it was I said that too, let alone expect them to have a personal "Grudge" against me at the hint of a jab against them. Let it go, they could be your best partner the next game. </p><p> </p><p> Sorry for the rant. It was just as much for my own benefit (to remember to do as I say).</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zergon" data-cite="Zergon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I guess I could fire question back too. Do you (or Opulent/DJ since they the other ones going to early lynch) feel that there´s something for town to gain if Emark flips as town? Or do you feel that getting mafia member early is big enough gain that it´s worth the risk?</div></blockquote><p> Zerg, sorry for missing this earlier. The simple answer is every vote gives us information, no matter if it goes to lynch or not. Rev and TNS answered everything else basically.</p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moon_lit_tears" data-cite="moon_lit_tears" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don’t think lynching day 1 is cool. I won’t be putting a vote.<p> </p><p> I do think the last few games have had some heat in them and we all need to take a breath and let cooler heads prevail. </p><p> </p><p> All we are doing is giving scum good direction. Let’s all come together and lynch Jadeds crew!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So you're not voting for yourself...<img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> => not hunting for scum!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Problem is that with not lynching D1 we might get to the same point as we are now. We'd be relying on abilities instead of old school scum hunting.</div></blockquote><p> This... Let's not get into this relying on people to actually investigate, and actually hit scum. As I posted earlier, investigators only have a 25% chance of success, are we to wait four days to lynch someone?</p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="moon_lit_tears" data-cite="moon_lit_tears" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>We go into day 2 with a bit more insight though. Yes we will be relying on abilities, but right now we can push to out roles and give scum good night one targets to go after. What do we do if Rmatk was pushed harder and winds up being a protector? A watcher? A town vig? I’m not saying he’s town or scum. I’m just saying day one is usually a bunch of nonsense posts an an occasional push. I do feel we gain a lot from the talk of day one, but I’m my own opinion a day one lynch is not usually good fir town, and honestly no fun fir the player getting lynched especially if they are a town power role.</div></blockquote><p> We don't know if we will have anymore insight then we do right now. We certainly didn't have anymore last game, nor did we up to day three. What night was it that the investigator found scum again? <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Then again, you were part of Jaded's rugrats.</p>

[The Two]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Derek and The Two. The Two is playing this game, and hmm... Where's his activity?<p> </p><p> That's not really a dig on The Two either. I find (and I'm sure you have as well,) it is much easier to see flaws and things when you're sitting on the sidelines then when you are in the thick of it.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The Two's take could be interesting. Like you said, hosting a game gets you a different perspective and a better sense of the game. If he still has that mindset, maybe he can spot something interesting/helpful.<p> </p><p> Either way, I need to sleep. See you all tomorrow.</p></div></blockquote><p> I'm here, I thought the deadline wasn't until later today. My bad.</p><p> </p><p> I'm always a slow start in games, it takes me a while to get fully invested and build a clear picture of what everyone is about. I soend the first few days just assuming you're all scum til proved otherwise.</p><p> </p><p> For what it's worth - not a lot - I don't see what about Emark got folk on his back.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BlueStar" data-cite="BlueStar" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I live in the Dutch-speaking part of Belgium...just saying.<p> </p><p> Skipping through the posts....BHK is town: he makes funny Dennis Wilson references so he must be town.</p></div></blockquote><p> I always meant to ask if you were a Flem or a Walloon.</p><p> </p><p> Roll on Day 2.</p>

[djthefunkchris]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Two" data-cite="The Two" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46549" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I always meant to ask if you were a <strong>Flem</strong> or a Walloon.<p> </p><p> Roll on Day 2.</p></div></blockquote><p> <img alt=":cool:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/cool.png.f00d2562b2c1d873a09323753efdb041.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[djthefunkchris]

For what it's worth - not a lot - I don't see what about Emark got folk on his back.

 

This one! Keeping this here so I can come back later if Emark flips red.

[djthefunkchris]

If there is a cult or not is to be decided, and honestly there is enough people, especially if the scum team isn't very big.

 

Anyone on the scum team want to share your size with us so we may figure out if there is a cult or not? I guess you guys would know already, but I figured I would ask to see if you felt like sharing... Anyone? Emark? MLT? Blue?

 

/nod.

 

Or The Two?

[moon_lit_tears]

He did kind of have an explanation for that, as well as not being around to defend himself as much as he would like. I obviously have to weigh the history he was talking about between him and Opulent, but.... I mean, that was a different game.

 

You are a different player this game then that game and so is he. You have to play each role to your best ability, not hold grudges, think of him as a new player as well, etc. We can't get so personal with each other, as each game we are different roles.

 

Example: I can call someone scum of the earth this game, in the most disrespectful, thoughtless way imaginable (within reason), trying to get a reaction and trying to meet my win conditions. The very next game I might not even remember who it was I said that too, let alone expect them to have a personal "Grudge" against me at the hint of a jab against them. Let it go, they could be your best partner the next game.

 

Sorry for the rant. It was just as much for my own benefit (to remember to do as I say).

 

 

Zerg, sorry for missing this earlier. The simple answer is every vote gives us information, no matter if it goes to lynch or not. Rev and TNS answered everything else basically.

 

 

 

This... Let's not get into

last game, nor did we up to day three. What night was it that the investigator found scum again?

 

Then again, you were part of Jaded's rugrats.

 

You’re right, but hitting town, ups the odds of hitting scum the next night. We have to hope they are around long enough to hit scum and tell us. I’m not saying to rely on the ability to find scum. Talking is the only group effort we can make to catch scum, but powers are here to assist us. Let’s use them as well.

[djthefunkchris]

You’re right, but hitting town, ups the odds of hitting scum the next night. We have to hope they are around long enough to hit scum and tell us. I’m not saying to rely on the ability to find scum. Talking is the only group effort we can make to catch scum, but powers are here to assist us. Let’s use them as well.

Oh, I get what your saying, I just don't agree 100%. Yes, use those abilities and try to find scum. I am not relying on that effort as my main means of finding scum though.

 

Unless I'm reading your post wrong, you're saying to hold the abilities higher than the actual playing, and I've never done that and I won't start now.

 

IF at some point in time, somehow someway, I was to get an investigative ability, if a mod ever feels that generous for me (hasn't happened...like ever), I might change up slightly...very slightly.

[BlueStar]

 

I always meant to ask if you were a Flem or a Walloon.

 

 

I try to keep that one in the dark, mon cher.

 

Let's not forget: Belgium also has (a very small) German-speaking community (inhereted it from winning WW2) which means we have about 5 governments (Belgian, Flemish, Walloon, Brussels (yes, seperate) and a German one). Keeping tabs in Mafia is easier than keeping tabs on governments in Belgium.

[Imarevenant]

[quote=djthefunkchris;2350086

IF at some point in time, somehow someway, I was to get an investigative ability, if a mod ever feels that generous for me (hasn't happened...like ever), I might change up slightly...very slightly.

 

You were a watcher in marvel mafia

[djthefunkchris]

You were a watcher in marvel mafia

 

I was Daredevil wasn't I? I knew I was forgetting something... Wonder if that's where my avatar started?

 

How long did I last in that game?

[Tha Black Phenom]

Ditto

 

Playing coward’s mafia is no fun. Obviously don’t launch important info into the thread for free but more thoughts out in the open = more discussion = more chances to catch scum exposing themselves or town putting things together collectively.

 

You could argue merely talking about game theory and setup got the don killed last game. Probably why people are questioning anyone thinking of a cult now actually.

 

Breaking eggs to make an omelet and all that. I get it.

 

 

TBP thinks we're boring and hasn't had a compelling enough reason to comment

 

Haha nah, it's more what you said about EP that fits about me.

[Too Sweet Spartan]

Appreciated the back and forth between DJ and MLT. I think they both had valid points, just different frameworks about how to be the most effective.

[djthefunkchris]

In the end I thought it better to not drag the game out for 5 more day phases. That just doesn't sound like fun for anyone, well aside maybe dj, outlaw, and the rest of the Titans who were having fun with Sprinkle on the last day

[djthefunkchris]

In the end I thought it better to not drag the game out for 5 more day phases. That just doesn't sound like fun for anyone, well aside maybe dj, outlaw, and the rest of the Titans who were having fun with Sprinkle on the last day

 

Don't know how the Mr. T got in that quote, but hey... brought me back a bit with seeing it:).

[Imarevenant]

I was Daredevil wasn't I? I knew I was forgetting something... Wonder if that's where my avatar started?

 

How long did I last in that game?

 

Though survived and won......technically

[Imarevenant]

You survived and won......technically

 

How dogs swipping y o u turn into though?

[djthefunkchris]

Appreciated the back and forth between DJ and MLT. I think they both had valid points, just different frameworks about how to be the most effective.

pfft... Clearly I was right and she was wrong. Mind you... I didn't say we had to actually Lynch someone to have something of value... But voting and stating your thoughts and seeing how they change over the game is most valuable to everyone.

 

IF it wasn't, you would never quote me (or anyone else for that matter) to prove a point after I get killed.

[djthefunkchris]

How dogs swipping y o u turn into though?

I can't find the proper translator for whatever language your trying to speak.

 

Yes, Outlaw was Thanos and he of course recruited me.. He knows how to win games.

 

I have to go check on the church, slap my wifes butt, knock out some kids, feed the cat, go to the store, etc.

 

Be back later.