PGHW Thread - No More Pillars (PGHW Discussion Thread)

[CGN91]

<p>I love to have 8-13 "Road To" shows which culminate in one big show. Not a fan of NJPW's recent schedule type with 3-4 Dontaku shows, i mean i can see why they do it (i'm a NJPW guy) but not loving it from a fan perspective. So we've got our 10 "Road To" shows for, let's say Night of Destiny, and our final tour show with Night of Destiny.</p><p> </p><p>

I would book 2-4 "big" tourshows, which would have normal intent. The rest of the tour should have a tour intent, so they will air as tour highlights on the broadcaster. On the 2-4 "big" tourstops you can do elimination style tag matches, build the big matches for our finale at Night of Destiny or highlight some undercard dudes. It could be also an option to do some weaker title defenses there of the midcard belts.</p><p> </p><p>

Just like Jon i like to do some Anniversary, "produced" or Young Boys shows too. There can all be "throwaway" or at least tour (for wrestlers Anniversary f.e.).</p><p> </p><p>

Tournament shows should all have normal intent, doesn't matter if Day 2 or 12.</p>

[Markw]

Finished booking Night of Pride. All of my best workers are hemorrhaging pop for reasons that escape me (this event didn't gain Chojiro a single point and most are losing a ton of pop each month). But otherwise having a lot of fun with it.

 

[TheOtherJamesCameron]

I am contemplating the best way to run the Elite Series. I know I am going to run two eight man pools with the pool winners facing off in the main event at Night Of PRIDE. With tour shows running at lesser importance and guys not quite putting forth their best efforts, I am wondering if I should run these as 14 "Normal" events without a broadcaster, or if I should keep them as touring events and just live with the lower ratings.

 

I could also sign a short term deal with Sports Vision 2 (or 1, if they will have me) and have these shows shown on TV if I go with "Normal".

 

Seems to make sense to me that these events would make a lot more money for the company than an average tour, so I'm not too worried about that part. But I do worry a bit about wear and tear on the guys with all the matches. I will likely forgo having the traditional multi-man undercard matches in favor of regualr tag matches and young lion matches with guys not in the tournament on the undercard.

 

Thoughts?

[Shinsuke]

I'm currently running the Series as a mixture of lesser and normal intent events either broadcast on Japanese Sports Vision 2 or Internet PPV (which I wanted to test out in this save). With lesser intent shows drawing at about 20.000 people, I tend to book smaller venues to keep things somewhat realistic. Four shows into the tournament, fatigue is not an issue.

[MikeSc]

Been reading up on how everyone structures their tours and gotten more than a few ideas.

 

I actually put a B-show on TV called PGHW Rising Pride, Future Glory to highlight the midcard types and build them up against lower card guys. Not sure how that will turn out.

 

Had a question regarding storylines. Could you keep up a yearlong story from right after your season end up to the season end next year with a mix of lesser and regular shows on a tour? Just make sure you have a tag or six-man with the people involved on one of your Normal events every week and it should work I would guess.

[MikeSc]

Took a longer look at things and figured out what I want to do. I came in as Stone Yoshikawa, the new booker. I like the solid midcard hand who could be kickass road agent #4 when I retire as a choice for me.

 

Magnum Kobe has started a stable, Kobe-Gun, due to being the outsider and one of the few lightweights on the roster. He brought in Tetsunori Yasuda (a guy who never got his shot and in my mind wants one pretty bad) and Avalanche Takano (the current Historical Japan champ and a guy who would be hungry to move up as well). Those two are now a tag team and will be getting their push there while Kobe gets his singles push. I'm thinking of either Razan Okamoto or Bunrakuken Torii as Kobe's regular tag partner. Probably Bunrakuken as Razan would end up wanting his own stable given his star quality and charisma.

 

Kobe and Torii will end up going over KitoMaki due to Bussho accidentally hitting Chojiro, which will break up KitoMaji (will leave theteam around for a reunion later). Bussho joins Kobe's crew and they start really making an impact in February. So all of a sudden the Big 3 start making their own stables, which I have tags worked out for. Gaijin will get their own, as well as another "newcomer" stable with guys from WLW and BCG. From there we go into March and the top 16 guys in the company at the time end up in the Elite.

 

Will have to suss out who I want to win it. Kozue seems like he should be up in the top 3 for sure. Injuries will play a part as well I imagine. Maybe Razan will make a big splash in his first tournament and get the surprise win. That could set him up for a rivalry with Kobe that pushed both of them into the Major Star category.

[Jon The GOAT]

Took a longer look at things and figured out what I want to do. I came in as Stone Yoshikawa, the new booker. I like the solid midcard hand who could be kickass road agent #4 when I retire as a choice for me.

 

Magnum Kobe has started a stable, Kobe-Gun, due to being the outsider and one of the few lightweights on the roster. He brought in Tetsunori Yasuda (a guy who never got his shot and in my mind wants one pretty bad) and Avalanche Takano (the current Historical Japan champ and a guy who would be hungry to move up as well). Those two are now a tag team and will be getting their push there while Kobe gets his singles push. I'm thinking of either Razan Okamoto or Bunrakuken Torii as Kobe's regular tag partner. Probably Bunrakuken as Razan would end up wanting his own stable given his star quality and charisma.

 

Kobe and Torii will end up going over KitoMaki due to Bussho accidentally hitting Chojiro, which will break up KitoMaji (will leave theteam around for a reunion later). Bussho joins Kobe's crew and they start really making an impact in February. So all of a sudden the Big 3 start making their own stables, which I have tags worked out for. Gaijin will get their own, as well as another "newcomer" stable with guys from WLW and BCG. From there we go into March and the top 16 guys in the company at the time end up in the Elite.

 

Will have to suss out who I want to win it. Kozue seems like he should be up in the top 3 for sure. Injuries will play a part as well I imagine. Maybe Razan will make a big splash in his first tournament and get the surprise win. That could set him up for a rivalry with Kobe that pushed both of them into the Major Star category.

 

Yoshikawa is an interesting guy to pick as a UC.

 

The Kobe-Gun stable makes a lot of sense (even if the name doesn't really have a good ring to it). Razan is a must-sign, definitely recommend him. Big fan of Torii too but I'd say Razan is a bigger win for you.

 

As for breaking up KitoMaji, maybe necessary to give Kito his push. I'm always reluctant to split teams if they have great chemistry (not sure if they do or not)

 

Looking forward to what you do with the Elite. Razan getting a surprise win would be pretty huge and unexpected. I dont tend to book huge things like that but I should to shake things up a lot more.

 

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I figured it was worth mentioning here. I'd mention it in other puro-related discussion threads but doesnt seem like theres many puro players this year. Your touring shows can only gain you pop if they grade 29 above your current pop in the area, and once you hit 71, you basically arent gaining any pop. With worker pop gains also being pretty low, it seems like the best bet for puro tours is to just toss as many guys on the card as you can manage for worker growth. And maybe loosely advance storylines. The same goes for lesser intent but to a slightly less drastic degree (I think it would be 23 but dont quote me on that). On the flipside, your show also has to be 29 under your pop to lose anything so I suppose you dont have to worry about putting on bad shows...

 

Major events will likely be priority # uno for steering your roster one direction or another.

[PW_Fandom]

I figured it was worth mentioning here. I'd mention it in other puro-related discussion threads but doesnt seem like theres many puro players this year. Your touring shows can only gain you pop if they grade 29 above your current pop in the area, and once you hit 71, you basically arent gaining any pop. With worker pop gains also being pretty low, it seems like the best bet for puro tours is to just toss as many guys on the card as you can manage for worker growth. And maybe loosely advance storylines. The same goes for lesser intent but to a slightly less drastic degree (I think it would be 23 but dont quote me on that). On the flipside, your show also has to be 29 under your pop to lose anything so I suppose you dont have to worry about putting on bad shows...

 

Major events will likely be priority # uno for steering your roster one direction or another.

 

This is great to know and it takes some pressure off essentially knowing the tour's are B show's and even tho you get the "not enough big names on the card" warning's it ultimately does not matter, but I also think it makes having a weekly TV show absolutely essential as that's the only way to keep a regular spread of popularity going outside of the monthly PPV show.

 

 

Re-Tag team's and ideas

 

On the note of Chojiro Kitoaji and Bussho Makiguchi I would be VERY reluctant to break them up as a tag team, and I also don't know that I feel it's necessary, I have them main eventing a lot of the tour shows as a tag team, but I would set them as individuals rather than a unit to facilitate Kitoaji's rise.

 

I think in my own head cannon I have it so it's very possible for them to be singles division rivals while both having the mentality that during tag competition they can work together because success is success, but I mean play how you want to play I guess!

 

 

What's going on in my games;

Since my original post I have re-started 4 times and played the full 2-3 month's out and made some pretty dramatic changes to my PGHW strategy and the factions I was using but I like some of the ideas I'm reading here from Mike so I might incorporate some of that myself!

 

In short my year long plan for Eisaku Kunomasu and Seiji Jimbo does not work because Eisaku start's to break down pretty quickly after you bring him in, so by all mean's hire him and have him set to pass the torch and bleed that popularity off him but you can't do anything more than a short Goldberg style run with the Glory Crown with him if you decide to put a title on him at all.

 

I still had Kitoaji win the Elite Series and he's very much *the next guy* in my game after Jimbo's had his run but I'm no longer having him break away from his faction.

 

With regards to my factions I got some great graphics from various folks on the forums and I'm now have the following primary factions;

 

Nai-Osore (No Fear) is a brotherhood featuring Masaru Ugaki, Magnum Kobe, Chojiro Kitoaji and Bussho Makiguchi and still at it's core is essentially Los Ingobernables.

 

http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7393&stc=1&d=1589485782ACE is a faction built around Kozue Kawashima featuring Masa Kurata, Haranobu Kobayashi and Tsurayuki Kamachi.

 

Kuro-Gun (Black Army) is a gang featuring Seiji Jimbo, Tetsunori Yasuda and BISON Yano & Brute Kikuchi.

 

KEN-KA (literally just means FIGHT) is my Gaikokujin brotherhood featuring Greg Keith (TCW deal ran out towards the end of Feb), David Stone (same situation), James Diaz and Logan Diaz (Wolfsbaine).

 

Credit to CGN91 for the Ken-Ka & Fearless logo's, credit to DeBosco for Kuro-Gun's logo, regards ACE I'm super sorry to whoever made that amazing logo but I can't for the life of me track down were I stole that from!

 

 

Hopefully once the game comes out more folks will take an interest in Japan and we can get more juices flowing in this thread.

[MikeSc]

I went with a setup of Lesser-Event-Lesser-Event on tours to help out with that.

 

I'm finding that the way the roster is set up right away it is super hard to gain pop unless you find your absolute best combinations and spam them in different regions (I haven't even found what the combination would be yet) your shows don't rate high enough to grow anyway. I started keeping track of every worker's performance number in matches so I can move them around the roster where they need to be. I tried using "Three Ring Circus" setup for matches and had a 70,74 and 78 in the main. The show still rated 67. Does it take a while to change to the new setup?

 

I also created a ton of "Unit" tag teams that I am giving experience liberally to. I want to have a super dense tag division and do the AJPW setup of the main event tag titles and the lower card titles as well. That and putting the new signings where they need to be on the card for the good matches to be there and grow. The good new is I am making all kinds of money with the Medium PPV deal.

[Jack Avatar Fan]

I see that at the start of the game, PGHW still holds rights to their footage despite having broadcasting partners.

 

Would it be worth the trouble of setting up a Small subscription service with the limited funds that PGHW possesses? I'm also curious how viewership would break down with events and tv airing in two different places.

 

I've just begun and I'm currently going on a signing spree. I'm especially looking forward to developing Dreadnought and giving a rocket push to Ernest Youngman. Curiously, I've convinced Will Beaumont to work in Japan and have made a written offer to him. It's a terrible idea, but it should be fun to see what happens in a couple of years of game time. At maximum, his toughness is 25.

 

OK, I may pull the offer.

[PW_Fandom]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jack Avatar Fan" data-cite="Jack Avatar Fan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47647" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I see that at the start of the game, PGHW still holds rights to their footage despite having broadcasting partners.<p> </p><p> Would it be worth the trouble of setting up a Small subscription service with the limited funds that PGHW possesses? I'm also curious how viewership would break down with events and tv airing in two different places.</p><p> </p><p> I've just begun and I'm currently going on a signing spree. I'm especially looking forward to developing Dreadnought and giving a rocket push to Ernest Youngman. Curiously, I've convinced Will Beaumont to work in Japan and have made a written offer to him. It's a terrible idea, but it should be fun to see what happens in a couple of years of game time. At maximum, his toughness is 25. </p><p> </p><p> OK, I may pull the offer.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You raise a really good question about the subscription service, but honestly I don't know the answer, try it out and let us know how it works out for you!</p><p> </p><p> Dreadnought looks potentially incredible and I could certainly come up with ideas for day's for all of the guy's you are talking about once they hit maturity but it's important to keep in mind while they are young lions they will be expected to eat a steady diet of pretty much nothing but pins so it's all just about making them better workers for down the road.</p>

[awesomenessofme1]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="PW_Fandom" data-cite="PW_Fandom" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47647" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Dreadnought looks potentially incredible and I could certainly come up with ideas for day's for all of the guy's you are talking about once they hit maturity but it's important to keep in mind while they are young lions they will be expected to eat a steady diet of pretty much nothing but pins so it's all just about making them better workers for down the road.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Just wanted to add for anyone who hasn't tested out the "allseeingi" cheat code, Dreadnought is actually a Prodigy. So if he gets a good destiny roll, he can easily become a superstar given enough time.</p>

[DeBosco]

I went with a setup of Lesser-Event-Lesser-Event on tours to help out with that.

 

Does lesser give you better profit and pop gains than a touring intent? I assumed they were the similar based on the descriptions.

[awesomenessofme1]

Does lesser give you better profit and pop gains than a touring intent? I assumed they were the similar based on the descriptions.

 

It makes it slightly easier to gain (or lose) pop, since not only do you need slightly lower numbers, your workers will hold back less.

 

In terms of profit, you don't get the big reduction in PPA costs you get with touring shows (so you pay 4x as much for workers), but broadcasting makes a lot more money than touring highlights.

[MikeSc]

It makes it slightly easier to gain (or lose) pop, since not only do you need slightly lower numbers, your workers will hold back less.

 

In terms of profit, you don't get the big reduction in PPA costs you get with touring shows (so you pay 4x as much for workers), but broadcasting makes a lot more money than touring highlights.

 

Awesomeness beat me to it. Also, you get a bigger chunk of the estimated attendance, so probably more merch sales as well.

[Jon The GOAT]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DeBosco" data-cite="DeBosco" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47647" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Does lesser give you better profit and pop gains than a touring intent? I assumed they were the similar based on the descriptions.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> On the pop side of things:</p><p> </p><p> - You basically have a 12 pt bonus/penalty to your show grade with regards to gaining or losing pop. Plus the fact that you need your show to be 5 points greater than your pop to gain anything, you'd need 17 points for your show above your pop to gain anything or 17 points for your show below your pop to lose anything. For max pop gain you would need 24.5 points above your pop <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> Once you would hit 83 pop, it would no longer result in a pop increase no matter what you do and you'll have to rely exclusively on the normal intent events to grow.</p>

[Yokai]

It makes it slightly easier to gain (or lose) pop, since not only do you need slightly lower numbers, your workers will hold back less.

 

In terms of profit, you don't get the big reduction in PPA costs you get with touring shows (so you pay 4x as much for workers), but broadcasting makes a lot more money than touring highlights.

 

When you guys run lesser instead of touring do you broadcast them on PPV or get a new deal and broadcast them commercial? I’m interested in trying this but broadcasting everything PPV seems kind of gamey and unrealistic.

[Markw]

When you guys run lesser instead of touring do you broadcast them on PPV or get a new deal and broadcast them commercial? I’m interested in trying this but broadcasting everything PPV seems kind of gamey and unrealistic.

 

You can comfortably flourish financially with the existing touring plus one PPV a month (at least if you switch PPV broadcaster), so it feels a bit unnecessary to deviate from their current schedule at all.

[Markw]

Finished booking Night of Pride. All of my best workers are hemorrhaging pop for reasons that escape me (this event didn't gain Chojiro a single point and most are losing a ton of pop each month). But otherwise having a lot of fun with it.

 

 

Had another go at PGHW starting with another patch. Glad to report pop is looking much better now. Chojiro now my most over worker, and Bussho doing well for himself to.

 

Annoyingly Night of Pride didn't go as well. I tried a different format for the Elite Series this time. Four groups of Five leading into Semi-Finals & Finals at Night of Pride. Probably didn't have enough potential group winners to make it work this time, but will give it another go if I get to 2021.

 

 

 

The three losers in the pre-show are dojo graduates. Supedo is Spencer Spade using London's Demon alt (I spent way more than I should to bring him in on a 10 year deal), Yamanoue had already decided to leave so I buried him/let Spade dominate. Waldorf got an 8 month injury so I had to have The Ring Generals vacate the belts they'd just won - hence the tag tournament and Marv getting a run with the International title to keep him busy.

[lr10540]

I've never really toyed with Japan as I know literally nothing about how Japanese style wrestling is booked. Can anybody help me with this? I've tried reading up on the history of 90s All Japan as that is what PGHW seems to closely correlate with, as their style is super physical, and in ring performance is above all else. They also had their 4 studs similar to All Japan.

 

So how does one book Japanese wrestling? I've seen a lot on stables and the majority of matches being 6 man or 4 man tags with the singles matches only taking place on their ppv style shows. I also saw with All Japan in the 90s only 16 people participated in their world title matches, I believe it was called the triple crown. And a handful of those were one offs. So how do you get a decade of title matches with only a dozen wrestlers?

 

I don't fully understand the story telling aspect of it all being done in the ring. I get going through your moves from a to z, stopping at whatever level of move results in a win against your opponent with your letter z move only being necessary in the rarest of circumstances for example, Kentas Burning Hammer being done less than 10 times that I read.

 

But how do you get a singles feud out of multi man matches? What is the reason for the multi man matches? Are the combinations of guys randomly thrown together in a team, or is tag team wrestling in general treated significantly more serious and important in Japan? I'm leaning towards the latter as a guy like Stan Hansen was a tag team bad ass, but also beat Kawada for their world title.

 

Tldr: how do you book Japanese style wrestling

[Infernalmiko]

I've never really toyed with Japan as I know literally nothing about how Japanese style wrestling is booked. Can anybody help me with this? I've tried reading up on the history of 90s All Japan as that is what PGHW seems to closely correlate with, as their style is super physical, and in ring performance is above all else. They also had their 4 studs similar to All Japan.

 

So how does one book Japanese wrestling? I've seen a lot on stables and the majority of matches being 6 man or 4 man tags with the singles matches only taking place on their ppv style shows. I also saw with All Japan in the 90s only 16 people participated in their world title matches, I believe it was called the triple crown. And a handful of those were one offs. So how do you get a decade of title matches with only a dozen wrestlers?

 

I don't fully understand the story telling aspect of it all being done in the ring. I get going through your moves from a to z, stopping at whatever level of move results in a win against your opponent with your letter z move only being necessary in the rarest of circumstances for example, Kentas Burning Hammer being done less than 10 times that I read.

 

But how do you get a singles feud out of multi man matches? What is the reason for the multi man matches? Are the combinations of guys randomly thrown together in a team, or is tag team wrestling in general treated significantly more serious and important in Japan? I'm leaning towards the latter as a guy like Stan Hansen was a tag team bad ass, but also beat Kawada for their world title.

 

Tldr: how do you book Japanese style wrestling

 

Definitely not tl;dr, but Mike Lorefice's booking of the 98 AJPW Champions Carnival is worth a look.

 

The Strong Style vs King's Road article also has some interesting points.

 

The factions in NJPW helped the tag matches since it's easier to make the 3v3 match a faction vs faction fight. The two top stars will have limited time together, enough to tease an upcoming singles match. One top star gets the pin, the other is kept strong in the notes.

 

TBH alot of lower down tag matches are tossed together. Though it's possible to create an issue there with a younger wrestler catching a veteran off guard and hitting them with some big moves, then after the match the bigger name wrestler cuts a promo about how the young punk just got lucky and will be shown their place.

 

A big part of how AJPW worked their TC in the 90's was focusing on showing wrestlers development, with getting a draw instead of losing showing growth and the big moment being the first win in singles against an opponent.

 

[lr10540]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Infernalmiko" data-cite="Infernalmiko" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47647" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><span style="color:#4B0082;">Definitely not tl;dr, but Mike Lorefice's booking of the 98 AJPW </span><a href="http://quebrada.net/columns/old/quebrada37carnybooking.html" rel="external nofollow"><span style="color:#4B0082;">Champions Carnival</span></a><span style="color:#4B0082;"> is worth a look.</span><p><span style="color:#4B0082;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#4B0082;"> The </span><a href="http://mayhem-the-mutilator.blogspot.com/2008/12/stron-style-v-kings-road.html" rel="external nofollow"><span style="color:#4B0082;">Strong Style vs King's Road</span></a><span style="color:#4B0082;"> article also has some interesting points.</span></p><p><span style="color:#4B0082;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#4B0082;"> The factions in NJPW helped the tag matches since it's easier to make the 3v3 match a faction vs faction fight. The two top stars will have limited time together, enough to tease an upcoming singles match. One top star gets the pin, the other is kept strong in the notes.</span></p><p><span style="color:#4B0082;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#4B0082;"> TBH alot of lower down tag matches are tossed together. Though it's possible to create an issue there with a younger wrestler catching a veteran off guard and hitting them with some big moves, then after the match the bigger name wrestler cuts a promo about how the young punk just got lucky and will be shown their place.</span></p><p><span style="color:#4B0082;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#4B0082;"> A big part of how AJPW worked their TC in the 90's was focusing on showing wrestlers development, with getting a draw instead of losing showing growth and the big moment being the first win in singles against an opponent. </span></p><p><span style="color:#4B0082;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#4B0082;"> </span></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The lack of submissions is somewhat disappointing. It seems like the King's Road style has a definite shelf life. Although, something about the linear progression really speaks to me from work inside of the ring, to the movement up the card.</p><p> </p><p> So I guess my next question would be is how title matches worked? I keep seeing the 7 defenses a year thing. What is that about? Are titles only ever defended on their PPV-type shows? Which I'm guessing they only ran 7 of every year? Referring to AJPW there.</p><p> </p><p> Also, how do the tournaments work? Are they used to set up a title match like the Royal Rumble? Is winning the tournament on the same level as winning a world title? I see that the challenger were essentially determined by who beat who within the tournament. Is that always the case?</p><p> </p><p> Lastly, are title challengers always determined by previous history between 2 wrestlers? Are there ever any call outs, or angles to set something up? Any interviews? Is there a match maker/commissioner/authority figure etc that ever sets up matches?</p><p> </p><p> Sorry for all the questions! This new ideology of booking is incredible intriguing to me.</p>

[Infernalmiko]

Answered in no particular order.

 

The winner of Champions Carnival gets a title match. Much like the winner of G1 gets one. Ideally you can use the tournament to set up multiple title matches. If the champion retains his title against the winner, but he lost to someone else during the tournament, that's another issue to be brought up. If the challenger wins, it's the same deal. Anyone who beat him in the tournament can be used in a challenge.

 

I don't think it needs to be seven defenses a year all the time, but title matches are rare because it's a big event. It's not like the US where there was a tradition is defending it on house shows throughout a territory.

 

Submissions come and go. I know in Joshi Puroresu I mostly saw submissions taken seriously when used by MMA style wrestlers.

 

There are sometimes one off challengers, it's usually used as a reward for a loyal wrestler (Misawa vs Williams or Nagata vs Norton come to mind). It's not uncommon for a challenge to come after a successful title defense.

 

There are alot of little things. If a wrestler has an injured knee, his opponent won't start off attacking it. Instead, when the match gets intense and his opponent feels things slipping away, he'll attack the knee. This heightens the intensity and shows how badly he wants to win.

[jesseewiak]

To use PGHW as an example, let's say you have 16 workers, with 8 workers in each block. Let's also say you still have Jimbo as the champ.

 

In Block A, Jimbo goes 5-1-1, going to a 30 minute draw with PRIDE Kosio, while his only loss was somewhat shockingly to Magnum Kobe.

 

Meanwhile, in Block B, Masaru Ugaki & Kozue Kawashima actually drawed on the final day, allowing Chojiro Kitoaji to get into the finals by a single point, as he only lost to Kozue.

 

Then, in the finals, Kitoaji goes over.

 

But, now you don't have to do Kitoaji vs. Jimbo right away.

 

You can do Jimbo vs. Kobe, and Jimbo vs. Kosio as main events, while at the same time, in the build-up, Kozue & Ugaki can have a re-match, and Kitoaji can take on Kozue.

 

After that, you can now have your big Jimbo vs. Kitoaji match and then go from there - will Jimbo get another big title defense, will Kitoaji prove he has Jimbo's number by beating him twice in a row, etc., etc.

 

Now, at first, this may seem like standard 50/50 booking, but remember, for the most part, stuff like the Champion Carnival/G-1/etc. are the only times guys are doing multiple single matches in a short period, so kayfabe wise, it makes sense they can possibly lose.

[lr10540]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jesseewiak" data-cite="jesseewiak" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47647" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>To use PGHW as an example, let's say you have 16 workers, with 8 workers in each block. Let's also say you still have Jimbo as the champ. <p> </p><p> In Block A, Jimbo goes 5-1-1, going to a 30 minute draw with PRIDE Kosio, while his only loss was somewhat shockingly to Magnum Kobe. </p><p> </p><p> Meanwhile, in Block B, Masaru Ugaki & Kozue Kawashima actually drawed on the final day, allowing Chojiro Kitoaji to get into the finals by a single point, as he only lost to Kozue. </p><p> </p><p> Then, in the finals, Kitoaji goes over. </p><p> </p><p> But, now you don't have to do Kitoaji vs. Jimbo right away. </p><p> </p><p> You can do Jimbo vs. Kobe, and Jimbo vs. Kosio as main events, while at the same time, in the build-up, Kozue & Ugaki can have a re-match, and Kitoaji can take on Kozue. </p><p> </p><p> After that, you can now have your big Jimbo vs. Kitoaji match and then go from there - will Jimbo get another big title defense, will Kitoaji prove he has Jimbo's number by beating him twice in a row, etc., etc. </p><p> </p><p> Now, at first, this may seem like standard 50/50 booking, but remember, for the most part, stuff like the Champion Carnival/G-1/etc. are the only times guys are doing multiple single matches in a short period, so kayfabe wise, it makes sense they can possibly lose.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So what would you do with Kitoaji in the months leading up to the eventual Jimbo match? Does the champion essentially get to pick his next opponent? How many singles matches would a guy like Jimbo get inbetween title defenses? Is it all exclusively tags up until the actual defense?</p>