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Probably not as they are second gen. Their dad, Tito, is in That 70's Mod

Does this include the Avatar clan of user characters? Asking because Masked Avatar or as I dub him in games, Mystery Mask, will be 46 when TEW 20 arrives and is maybe getting to be too old for his skill ratings. Wouldn't have noticed this but I just started dusting off an old save and noticed.

The first thing I'm going to do is set up a reference ave and just explore all the personnel changes. Maybe mentally book some guys just to get into the groove of where the C-Verse has gone. Then when I'm ready to jump into a game, I'm going to want to play as a child company. That feature is potentially a natural fit for me with how I've played the last four games. It's about time Mystery Mask got a chance to be someone's official developer of talent. My resume should be well established in story terms by now. And then if for some reason, I don't jive with that role, I can always go back to my independent training games.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Greylocke" data-cite="Greylocke" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46243" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p> Ugh @ Brandi again being the one getting more TV mic time. They might as well create a new Women's TV Microphone Championship and make Brandi the inaugural champion, since apparently only she has the privilege to talk on TV. Everybody else just gets interrupted when they try. Riho was getting an interview after her title win (supposedly in Japanese), and got attacked by Nyla. Jamie Hayter was getting an interview backstage and then got attacked Brandi with zero follow-ups. Allie was getting a random live interview, and gets destroyed by Kong. Statlander gets her post-match interview, and Brandi interrupts her. Britt Baker only got to say something when she was on commentary. Brandi is more annoying than Stephanie McMahon at this point. And it's not even like she's a manager cutting promos for actual wrestlers....Paul Heyman and Zelina Vegas are managers, and when they talk hype up the wrestlers they manage and promote their matches. Their promos revolve around their clients. Brandi's promos revolve around herself and her stable, and Kong and the new bald recruit are just..."there". She's being used like CM Punk in the SES, except CM Punk was the actual best wrestler and star of his group, and Brandi clearly is not.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> I don't know. Something is clearly up here and I'm curious to see what it is. The story world version of Cody and Brandi's marriage would seem to be far different from what it is when the camera goes off. There's a tale in why a married woman like Brandi is acting so vampy and devilish whenever she comes out. </p><p> </p><p> Could MJF be right? Could Cody not be what he appears and be a secret partner in this Nightmare Collective? Meaning he and Brandi are a more united front that it appears? There would almost have to be some in-character reason she's taken a part of his nickname and sown it into the name of her pet project. </p><p> </p><p> If it even is HER project. Could someone else, Kong for example, be pulling the strings and making Brandi present herself this way? Maybe thinking "pretty woman in a slinky dress is more likely to be heard." Not to mention deflect suspicion from the real mastermind. </p><p> </p><p> Regardless, I can't help thinking there are pieces to the puzzle we're not meant to see yet where Brandi and her? collective as concerned. Heck, maybe even the hair collection is a diversion from their real plan. All I know is I'm not ready to be as upset as you are about Brandi's mic time just yet. There's a grand scheme afoot with whatever she's doing or at least one would hope so. For now I say let it unfold or fail to do so. There were be plenty of time for consternation if the failure happens.</p>

Between Swann having been the original founder of Injustice before Myron Reed took that ball and ran with it and Strickland having been called "Swerve", the acronym DTA springs to mind. So maybe Don't Trust Authority. Or the Downtown Truth Authority. From some reason, "authority" jumps into my head for the A whether they are the authority or whether the term is a dig a MLW management.

You mean like the belt Alexander Hammerstone currently holds in MLW? Because they call that the National Openweight Title. Also do you have the Middleweight belt active at the moment or not? Between those three belts it seems like MLW has all the singles gold they need. And I sometimes wonder if the National Openweight belt is really all that necessary given how little movement there's been with that belt. Hammerstone is the inaugural and so far only holder of it.

<p>Bob Casey: Dude has been the ace of my training fed games since I started playing that way in 08. But the guy's going to be 44 when the new game starts. As such, he probably ought to be a road agent a la Curt O'Malley. That's the role I was always training him for in those epic battles with Ted Brady. As Bob's biggest mark I really want the best for him. No need for him to drag his in ring career on forever since he lacks drawing power outside of my world to start with.</p><p> </p><p> Ben Williams: Seems like the most likely guy to step up into Casey's role in my world should Bob retire to agency. But given how well rounded Ben is both in ring and on the mic, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody grabbed him as a jobber or lower mid. Dude can act virtually any part and I'd like to think somebody will want that on their roster.</p><p> </p><p> Remmy Honeyman: His Midnight Rider act as Buzzy The Bee was probably the best character bit I had during my TEW16 play. Which has caused me to be quite the mark for him as a character. Guy's probably never going to be as good an actor as Casey or Williams. But the guy's been fun to play around with. Will likely be a key piece for me going forward if a bigger fed doesn't see the jobber potential in this steady Eddie.</p>

I'll get into PCO as champ later. Although I will say it felt too soon for Rush to be champ given the outside star problem I've referenced on several occasions. Right now, Brother WC, I'm more interested in your Gresham question. Because you're right. He is a prime example of a guy who could have made a much bigger name over the past five years if RoH hadn't wasted that time leo hunting. It does look like they are trying to rectify that mistake now via the relationship with Lethal and the turn. They've always hyped his skills and Gresham's shown more personality than one might have expected when given the chance to show one. Heck, if you could put a WORLD TITLE on a guy as bland as Kyle O'Reilly, I don't see why Gresham couldn't have had a TV title reign or two. Or speaking of the TV title, how about Matt Taven as the example? Guy wasn't half the speaker he is now when he was TV title holder coming out of Top Prospect. Of course then you had Truth Martini to fill the gap. But regardless the champ held gold despite the stick not being his forte. That's never been the impediment in RoH that it could be in other promotions. This is a company that when Sinclair first took over was sending its champions on personal appearances with regional sponsors despite one of those champs being BJ Whitmer. BJ!! WHITMER!! BJ's a very talented wrestler but I wouldn't leave my house to hear him speak if he were giving the Gettysburg Address at my mailbox. That's how little personality and charisma have mattered over the years in RoH. Just a shame that over the last few, we the fans have understood this better than management does.

I'll tell you what could be fun albeit a bit cheaty in the end. Do the Funhouse and Fiend bit but take it a wildly different direction. Being injured and looking like his in-ring career is over mellows Bray. He sets about becoming the kiddie show host out of a sincere desire to turn a new leaf. But whoever his Fiendish co-host is keeps corrupting the show and taking it down dark alleys similar to what the segments are in reality. Bray wants to fight for the segment's purity but feels he can't because of the injury. Then suddenly a couple years or whatever down the road,BOOM!! Dr. Editor comes up with a new breakthrough surgery Bray can get to become ring capable again. But the world doesn't know it at first. As Bray's getting right, some "avenging angel" starts attacking The Fiend. Maybe even angel puppets appear on the Funhouse to chase away the demonic ones. Then at a key TV episode, the avenging angel is ready to make himself known. He jumps Fiend throws the mask down on top of him and OMG it's a healthy Bray!! Thereby leading to a blowoff Bray v Fiend. Winner gets the Funhouse. Bray wins and maybe it becomes a parody segment after he decides the format needs revamped in the wake of Fiend's damaging influence. Worst case scenario you end up turning him dark again down the road. Only now he's even more dangerous because of his dance in the light and understanding "good" better than he did before. For Bray's "recovery", I'm thinking about real world events like the neck injury that was supposed to end Kurt Angle's career but didn't. Or how Daniel Bryan was thought to be done for a while until he recovered and started wrestling again. Wouldn't be the first time a guy's career looked legit over until advanced medicine found him a new answer. So yeah you might have to cheat a little and use the editor but at least you'd be doing it in a way that there's precedence for. Instead of "Oh I don't want this to happen so it's not."

Just saw this same gambit not to long ago in viewing time with OVW. I'm several months behind with their shows at the moment so this was spring real time but just recently for me. They had put a guy out on a stip that he'd wagered his career and lost. But then he got hired as company staff and was tormenting the guy who put him out. But the rival couldn't do anything about it because the dude was no longer a wrestler. So the guy got reinstated to enable the feud continuing. If what's essentially a training fed like OVW can book a guy to demand his rival's reinstatement, no reason a place like AEW can't as well.

Agreed. Over the years, I've adapted to Scotty having plumped once they cooked him. But when it first happened my heart broke. Original recipe Scott Steiner was so much better and more talented it still can be hard to believe that Scott and the one we have today are the same human being

Absolutely. And I loved how fully Dustin got in the spirit of teaming with the Bucks. The color scheme of the outand and the tassels on the boots. The senton in the criss-crossing faces spot. How well he integrated into the Bucks combo attacks. They say old dogs can't learn new tricks but this showed Dustin is certainly willing and able to adapt. And the little history lesson how far rope walking goes in wrestling as well. Really emphasized how far it has come for Fenix to be that sight to behold. Loved Cody's attempt to make MJF name his price. The anger and frustration clearly run deep over that betrayal. Sometimes you don't have to be all fancy and blowsy to make the point. Conviction and passion like Cody had on display can go a long way. And I certainly was thankful that the Three B's followed up on last week. That promo did a lot more to make them feel like their own deal than their arrival last week did. Oh no doubt. But my favorite part there was them being consistent in using the same bit players to portray the new recruits. Especially felt bad for the fat guy when they beat him down. Certainly effective but not really be a big Nyla fan. Would much rather see other women in her place. This annoyed me. They've done jokes about not doing old material and then counter by doing this? Not to mention Jericho telling the crowd to not act like it was 2016 when they popped for the clipboard. I got news for you, Mr Le Champion. Not everybody watches all the same programming. This might have been people's first time to see you do the clipboard bit first hand. Did like the Jurassic Express' interjection though. From Marko not backing down from Hager to Luchasaurus using his education to challenge Jericho's intelligence to Jungle Boy being the opponent for Corpus Christi. That's a match where the outcome can likely be presumed but yet will likely be anticipated because of Jungle Boy's background. Excellent match and rather a mind-blowing upset. Statlander could have come close in the loss and everyone would have been satisfied. And anticipating her next appearance because she showed so well. This result shows that not only is she sticking around but they have big plans for her. Which I'm on board with. Statlander strikes me as being far better rounded than Nyla as power oriented women go. Wouldn't really have thought about the knee issue until you mentioned it. But given how long Daniels has been at it as a wrestler, that issue is hardly a surprise. Wear and tear catching up to Daniels could be part of why they are so big on Scorpio Sky. Oh no doubt. Two guys can both get all hardcore and crazy but can also break out the more traditonal wrestling when called upon. Doesn't matter what direction you want things to go. They can do it and do it well. Certainly hope this isn't the last we've seen of them against one another. As much talk as there is about Janela's star potential, it feels like a blood feud with Moxley could really help launch him. Not to mention make folks forget the British schoolmaster sounding moniker WWE saddled Mox with.

Great post, Brother James. For all the amazing matches and dramatic storylines I've seen over the years, one of my favorite things in all of wrestling is these kind of connections. And how it's not just fictional characters like Boo they can happen with but real talent as well. One example that comes to mind for me is Owen Hart. When he turned on Bret because he resented being in his brother's shadow, that spoke to me in ways no wrestling story had before and few have since. Like Owen, I am the (YICK) "baby brother" in the family. So when he turned, I was greatly divided as a fan. I really loved and admired Bret for his skills but Owen's struggle hit right at the heart of what it meant to be the youngest child. So I had a hard time hating him for betraying Bret. How could I when I related so compeletely? Another would be the American Badass version of the Undertaker. Not so much because he was like me but my older brother in Alabama. When Taker would roar down the ramp on that custom chopper and circle the ring before entering it, that felt like something my brother might have done. In his younger days, my brother was a passionate biker, a bar bouncer and just an all around wild child. Medical issues have calmed my brother down over the years. But in his prime, he was badass in pretty much the same ways Taker was portraying. So when Taker came on, it almost felt like I was spending time with my older brother. Even though that was and still is hard to do in reality with all the miles between us. I heard and understood all the reasons why this could be seen a lesser period in Taker's career. But the connection was so strong I ultimately didn't care. Biker Taker just resonated that much for me.

I don't know if I'd be too concerned about that just yet. May have just been the only open slot they could slide into at the moment. If a year or two from now, that's still where RoH is slotted, that might be more of a problem. I would imagine there's a transition period and shows whose contracts need to run out that need to transpire first before they can start shuffling in earnest.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Self" data-cite="Self" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46243" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p> The debut of the Butcher and the Blade was some embarrassingly inept commentary. Excalibur just screaming their names, unable to answer Jim Ross's perfectly reasonable question. Who are they? If you know, tell us. Some of us don't study wrestling online. They look good though. Like actual men. I'd be interested if AEW gave us some background. </p><p> </p><p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Mostly agreed. Excalibur was way over the top and completely ignored JR's attempts to get people who don't follow the right corner of the wrestling world up to speed. AEW hasn't quite been RoH bad at letting the uninitiated know who that indy darling or imported international star is and why they matter. But the ball was definitely dropped where Butcher and Blade were concerned. It was just this kind of presumptuousness that led me to hate Kenny Omega back when he visited RoH. Okay. So you know these guys, Excalibur. I don't. Why should I care?</p><p> </p><p> The place where I diverge from you is them looking like "actual men". Because they were introduced this way, I was left to make associations to other people. I mentioned Dark Order and the War Kings but the bigger guy with the cartoony mustache also kind of reminded me of a Dapper Dan Van Zandt. Seeing I was left to fill in blanks, they didn't seem like their own men to me. Just reflections of other people I'd seen in other times and places. Now if Allie and these randoms are going to be tied to Dark Order, that might be okay. If not, I hope time is not wasted in explaining why not.</p>

I'm just glad to see him having a personality role in the business at all. Given that his entire big-time career was to be a walking troll job, one could hardly have blamed him had he walked away permanently bitter and never looked back. And how I love that they are using his indy name as Soul Train Jones. I always felt that was the best stretch of his career even if Virgil is the most famous. So much great stuff. The standee of Guevara and Jericho. JR's nod to Abdullah The Butcher even those the present was too small this time. Papa Irvine trashing the Blackhawks and gifting the Inner Circle Ranger jerseys. The literal goat seeing how Jericho in character views himself. But I must say that I was disappointed that SCU was hiding in the marching band. With all the mascots that were around ringside, I kept hoping one of them would prove to be the Trojan Horse And while I'm not typically that keen on Orange Cassidy, I loved seeing him in the turkey suit. Great nod to wrestling history and rather fitting a guy who cares as little as Cassidy should be in it. After all, none of us really cared when the Gobbledy Gooker showed up and gave turkeys new meaning in wrestling. Man, I am so loving Emi Sakura in AEW. Hadn't had the pleasure of seeing her before but that woman is entertainment personified. She can go from the evil taskmistress to comic relief at the drop of the hat. And do either without betraying the notion that she has the other side to her as well. Will have to take your word on this. Knew of him in the indies and the clips I saw tended to scare me off. Which in retrospect tells me just how well he was playing the homeless psycho then. Didn't watch him in WWE so can't judge those. But I will say his intensity is pitch perfect and feels so much more polished than in his "homeless" days. Oh no doubt. And that is just as it should be given how the company got started in the first place. First time hearing of these guys. At least in these personas. I do remember getting a couple nibbles of Braxton Sutter in Impact. Have to say this segment totally confused me. Butcher and Blade were total strangers to me and I didn't get why Allie of all people was in the bunny mask. The jump from bubbly chick next door to evil puppet mistress was awfully sharp. Between thinking they were connected to the Dark Order at first and having flashes of the War Kings in OVW, this introduction was not well received in Cappy Land. Indeed. PAC and Omega are well matched against each other. Gotta think there will eventually be a rubber match as they are 1-1 in the series now. Could be a good to springboard one or the other to a title shot against Jericho. Very much agreed. The guy may be an arrogant SOB but MJF was 1000% percent right that the diamond ring was a far better fit for him than it would ever have been for Hangman Page. That bauble is something he can take to MLW and show off to his Dynasty buddies there. Hammer and Holiday will love it. Almost missed the aftemath though. My DVR was glitching badly all throughout the episode and it dropped my initial playthrough right when DDP was approaching the ring for the presentation. Don't know how I managed to avoid deleting the recording right then. But glad I did because that presentation and brawl was pure wrestling mayhem. Would have been disappointed to miss it. Result was kind of obligatory when you think about it. Especially with this being a TV match. But Sky put up a strong fight on the road to it and the commentary team sure held him up like a proper contender. If Sky does end up with AEW singles gold somewhere down the road, it won't surprise me in the least. The guy is legit

Well given how much Sami Zayn looks like a young Ray Stevens, I'd be tempted to repackage either him or Cesaro as The Blue Cyclone. Change Nakamura's first name to Tsunami and find a natural disaster that fit wherever the non-Cyclone was from. So I could then call the group The Forces of Nature.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="d12345" data-cite="d12345" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41193" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Another realistic option is to give Regal a 2-4 week vacation (depending on how popular he currently is). When he comes back, debut him with a new name and gimmick.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Except then what happens with Dundee who currently has the name Brother Edenborn wants Regal to use and holds value of his own?</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="edenborn" data-cite="edenborn" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41193" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>TEW Bookers, I could use your help on this.<p> </p><p> I'm playing WCW in '94 (Hive's <em>Clash of the Titans</em> mod, highly recommended) and Steven Regal shows up in my Creative Meeting as a huge star with almost unlimited potential. Naturally, I want to push him to the moon. </p><p> </p><p> However, I don't want to push him as Steven Regal. I'd much rather push him as William Regal, as I already have a number of Steves/Stevens on my roster. Because this is '94, Regal is managed by Bill Dundee, who is currently going by the name Sir William. So I'm looking for some sort of scenario where Regal takes the Sir William name for his own.</p><p> </p><p> Perhaps it's a comedy angle where Regal winds up in a feud for his name, and upon losing takes Sir William's name as a substitute? That's all I've got right now -- so I'm completely open to suggestions and would love to know how you'd book this.</p><p> </p><p> Difficulty factor: I don't want to get rid of Dundee -- he's got excellent chemistry managing Regal. So I imagine I need a scenario where the two men stay allied, even though Regal's taking his name. (Maybe Dundee loyally gives him the Sir William name? I just don't know.)</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Maybe nobody needs to end up losing their name. Dundee may currently be Sir William. But how well is it established in story that William is Dundee's first name? Could he maybe be Sir Dunforth William or some such thing so Regal could be Sir William Regal?</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RatedRKO16" data-cite="RatedRKO16" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41193" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>How would you book Ultimate Warrior in 1986 WWF? His skills are very underdeveloped, but the star quality and entertainment skills are there. Squash matches until he gets over and hope his skills improve?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Maybe hide him on a tag team. Have him be just another warrior alongside a war minded veteran. As he gets the skills in shape, the personality starts to comes out more and he starts to be more Ultimate. The old guy gets frustrated, the team falls apart and that's when Warrior overcomes his former partner and becomes fully Ultimate.</p>

I've thought about this as well, Brother Steev and what it appears to come down to is that public access broadcasting doesn't fit the current economics of TEW. The companies that would appear to most benefit from the exposure of public access TV typically lack the funds to pay for it. In one of my training fed games, I typically would because I overfund those games. That way I can sandbox storylines and just worry about getting guys to learn skills. But most micropromotions in the C-Verse are funded on a dwarf's shoestring. So it would appear either public access in not a thing in the C-Verse or the stations are just particularly greedy there. All I know is that it would be cost prohibitive in the game world as it currently exists.

If this needs to be moved somewhere else, please do. My only thought on that front is I gotta get it out of my head. But yeah. They are a feature of wrestling that have been in my head a lot as of late as they pertain to TEW. For the longest time, the notion of the unofficial pin that we all saw but the ref was unable to count were just ignored. But over the last few years in wrestling, I see them being made a point of more and more. There are now talking points in rematches. Subjects broached to heels doing color commentary for them to dismiss. Tools to hype undercarders with. So much is made of the visual pin I find myself trying to figure out what place if any needs to be made for them in the game. I thought repeatedly about just suggesting there should be a ring note for them. But even I'm not sure how necessary that really is. Are visual pins maybe intended to be one of the excuses that lead to the Tainted Win note? Or do they merit a special note to themselves? It seems like a lot could be done with them. Tracking visual pins so they can be talking points in future matches. Maybe being the catalyst to a story line starting argument. Maybe being tools to bringing lower carders along. Perhaps giving them visual pins that don't lead to official ones and can they get over that hump being a storyline. Seems like there could be a lot of game value here. Or is that just me? Do you maybe view visual pins as something best left to imagination and angles for story purposes? Does the Tainted Win note or some other feature I'm overlooking do them justice in your mind? Would love to resolve the tug and pull that happens whenever this thought jumps in my head.

Possible I guess. Hard to ever truly know from the outside until a guy gets popped for being a roider. But it's not like this was against a random opponent. Had Garrett done all this against a Teddy Bridgewater or a Luke Falk, somebody from a team we don't have history with I might be more inclined to ask that as well. This was Browns/Steelers. This is a rivalry where a visually ugly sack by Turkey Jones on Terry Bradshaw forty something years ago makes an enduring local legend of someone 30 other fan bases have forgotten over time. This is the matchup where Antonio Brown curb stomped Spencer Lanning on a punt return. Incidents are common when Cleveland & Pittsburgh get together and either side can start it. Now granted they are rarely this over the top and disgusting. Very few incidents in football ever are. But if you're watching a Browns/Steelers game and you think it won't get chippy at some point, that's just plain naive.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Embee" data-cite="Embee" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41263" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Playing a 'WCW Lives' mod as WCW atm.<p> </p><p> Looking to put together a stable/tag team of Samoa Joe (Named Joe Tiare in my development atm), John Cena and Road Dogg (Currently, and likely permanently named BG James).</p><p> </p><p> I'm looking for suggestions on names for Cena and potentially the stable overall. I was thinking of rolling with Cena as 'Danny James', BG James' kayfabe cousin and having them utilize Tiare as an enforcer for their 'James Gang'. But I'm not sure if I want Cena saddled with 'Danny James' long-term and I'm not super big on gimmick/name resets for guys I want to push when groups break up.</p><p> </p><p> Any thoughts?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Are you planning on taking Cena down a similiar gimmick path to what he traveled in reality? Because I always thought when he was doing the Doctor of Thuganomics bit that he should have been calling himself Johnny C-Note. When Cena was first reaching the spotlight, it seemed like his real name should have been avoided because of the potential for Xena Warrior Princess jokes that could threaten his long term future. Thankfully for him, that appears to have been one of those deals that was just me.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Swanton825" data-cite="The Swanton825" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46243" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I can't give a story reason, but the two teamed as the Super Smash Bros for a while so I imagine it'd be better to keep them as a team until they find their groove again rather than split them up and pray for chemistry with people with more compatible gimmicks.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Fair enough. But for one like me who might not know their pre-AEW history, does it seem that unreasonable the thought of splitting them would come to mind?</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46243" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It’s hard to take the Dark Order seriously when one guy is named Evil Uno. Stu Grayson isn’t a great name either and he has a bad look.<p> </p><p> In ring they’re fine though.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Maybe as far as these things go but they ultimately feel like mere quibbles. Depending on what backstory they are given and who they might be partnered with, Evil Uno's name could work easily enough. As for Grayson, I'll agree the name would be better on a face than a dark heel. But I don't see his look would be all that bad were he working a different gimmick and/or alignment. He may not look enough like one of wrestling's dark entities but he certainly looks like a guy who'd be wrestling in some capacity.</p>