The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

[Comradebot]

**waits for cappyboy's next Ken Anderson tirade**

 

Mr. Anderson is the man.

 

That is all.

[Linsolv]

For me I don't like Randy Orton. The guy is from St. Louis, he's my age, he lives within 20 miles of me, his a third generation superstar he's had some entertaining gimmicks but I just find the guy isn't what I like. That being said I'm not going to say he has a simple gimmick or because he's white and has anger problems thats a racial overtone or some non sense.

 

For me, Randy Orton has ALWAYS been my favorite wrestler in the E.

 

Is it because he's so good on the mic? No. He pretty much says normal stuff.

 

Is it because he's so good in the ring? No. He's not that great.

 

It's in fact because of his voice. When I was getting into the WWE, I was just about 4 months from graduating high school; I'd been really big into choir after the girlie got me into it, and was pretty damn good at it if I do say so myself.

 

So I turn on RAW, and there's this dude with a voice like butter and lower than a punch to the balls. Needless to say that I am kinda shallow sometimes.

[PeterHilton]

So I turn on RAW, and there's this dude with a voice like butter and lower than a punch to the balls. Needless to say that I am kinda shallow sometimes.

 

I feel strangely uncomfortable now.

[Stennick]

<p>*listens to the silence after Linslov's post, awkwardly glancing around*</p><p> </p><p>

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[Linsolv]

<p>What? It's not often you come across a charismatic bass. It's not. We're a fundamentally un-interesting group.</p><p> </p><p>

<span style="font-size:8px;">Somehow, though, I did see this coming.</span></p><p> </p><p>

In other things I've been somewhat reluctant to admit, the Boogeyman was the first person to catch my interest in wrestling.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

Seriously, though, you guys don't think Jericho's voice makes him sound like a pip-squeak little guy? Orton's voice sounds strong.</p>

[cappyboy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="PeterHilton" data-cite="PeterHilton" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>**waits for cappyboy's next Ken Anderson tirade**</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ask and ye shall receive. Well, sort of. I don't deny that my head completely melts when I try to figure out why the guy has the following he does. When I watch him I see a guy who should be champion of USPW and no more. He's decent enough in the ring but nothing special. He's a talented mimic with a knack for reproducing the best bits of other more memorable talent. He just doesn't seem like he can take ownership of anything for himself.</p><p> </p><p> But here's the most generous thing I can say to mitigate all my "tirades" as Brother Hilton put it. I got to Anderson late in the ball game. Much of his following was already cemented by the time I got to see him. As such, I recognize I am mostly a lone voice crying out in the wilderness.</p><p> </p><p> But you know what really makes it bad for me? The part of the whole Anderson experience that probably makes my venom sound particularly venomous? I've TRIED to get Anderson. I've tried to look past the pieces of Rock, rips of Road Dogg and the uncanny Holly family resemblence to get a sense of Anderson as his own character. And every time I do, I've come up empty. I try to find what the part of "MISTAAAA ANDERSON" that feels like it could only come from Ken and I don't see it. I'm so clueless as to what he's got that it drives me up the wall. It's not that I WANT to hate the guy. It's the fact I want to like the guy since everyone else does and CAN'T. </p><p> </p><p> Problem is he gives me no reason to and that hurts my ability to enjoy whatever show he's on. Because it keeps me from enjoying what's meant to be a highly important match. There's no move, no mannerism, no inflection that seems to be HIS contribution to the character. I wish there were. That way i could stopping trying to analyze Anderson and just experience him like everyone else does.</p>

[BurningHamster]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="-laz-" data-cite="-laz-" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>the miz fights like a girl i have photographic proof <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> <span>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v194/-Laz-/mizisagirl.jpg</span></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Haha awesome. Loved that whole segment and the crowd was eating it up. realistic confrontation with decent verbal stabs at each person's shortcomings leading to scrappy, messy violence that is broken up before a good conclusion = people wanting to watch more of that.</p><p> </p><p> As a sidenote, in ring Heath Slater was the best worker on NXT this week by far. People who keep dissing him for being boring aren't keeping their eyes open for the subtle magic he is working. Dude was doing a freaking broomstick job at the end making Otunga not look like a sack of dried monkey genitals weighed down by life in the shadow of the mediocrity and obesity of his Z-list ladyfriend. Otunga still didn't look capable but Slater brought enough athleticism and smoothness to almost make up for it.</p><p> </p><p> Michael Cole looked evil and almost younger McMahon like in the video package.</p><p> </p><p> Also I'm kind of with Cappyboy on the Anderson thing. I never got the love for him.</p>

[Stennick]

<p>I got no problem with you not liking the guy. As I said I don't see anything special about Orton or Joe. Anderson isn't my #1 guy either but I do enjoy is mic work. However rather than saying that these guys are missing something as long as people that don't like clearly talented guys say "I just dont like him" and they don't make excuses that are blinded by markish opinions then its all good. </p><p> </p><p>

You've said that its something your not getting which is better than saying the guy isn't talented or something of that nature. </p><p> </p><p>

If everyone liked the same guys there would be no talk of wrestling on the internet. Its just the ability to accept that someone is talented even if you don't like them that puts everyone into different camps.</p>

[hellshock70]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="PeterHilton" data-cite="PeterHilton" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't care that The Truth is playing a rapper. that doesn't bug me. It bugs me that he's wearing a hairstyle and doing dance moves that are like 15 years out of style...he looks like he stepped out of a video form the new jack swing era. </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> On this, Ron Killings is 38 years old. So he grew up on the New Jack swing era. He's by far the oldest of the bunch and is going with the style he knows.</p>

[Hyde Hill]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If that is a slant on Popes gimmick than any "racial overtones" that MVP had were slants as well. Like Peter said his gimmick was he was a high level athlete thus his name "MVP". His gimmick was great, free agency, everything about that character was original and he was on fire back in 2006. <p> </p><p> Wrestling has always been about stereotypes. Italians, Russians, Asians, Samoans, Blacks, Brits, when you think about the broad scope of things all of these people are usually sterotyped and have simple gimmicks. </p><p> </p><p> Lately I've noticed that on these boards when someone doesn't seem to like a wrestler they say he's "not talented, or he's boring, or his character doesn't work" usually their wrong and the guy is talented, he's entertaining and he appeals to come audience with their character just not them.</p><p> </p><p> For me I don't like Randy Orton. The guy is from St. Louis, he's my age, he lives within 20 miles of me, his a third generation superstar he's had some entertaining gimmicks but I just find the guy isn't what I like. That being said I'm not going to say he has a simple gimmick or because he's white and has anger problems thats a racial overtone or some non sense. </p><p> </p><p> Joe is another guy I don't get. He's passionate, he's paid his dues, but I just can't get into the guys in ring style or character. I know others do but I don't. That being said I'm not going to say "Joe has average charisma and the only thing he can do is work stiff". Because that wouldn't be accurate so instead of saying things like that I just say "I'm not a fan of the guy". </p><p> </p><p> Instead we come in here and we make these excuses on why we don't like these guys and most of the time the argument falls flat and it makes us look like a teenager who's unable to look at both sides of the coin. Or even worse it makes us look like a blind mark who likes a certain style and instead of coming out and admitting it they make excuses why guys who don't fit that style suck.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well that isn't as prevalent on these boards as it is in most of the IWC from what I have seen. One of the reasons why I mainly post here. And generally cappy makes it quite clear why HE hates Anderson, not so much that he is just no good for everybody.</p>

[Big Roguey]

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w140/thirteenthghetto/batistahating.jpg

 

Someone hates Batista.

[Hyde Hill]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Linsolv" data-cite="Linsolv" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What? It's not often you come across a charismatic bass. It's not. We're a fundamentally un-interesting group.<p> </p><p> <span style="font-size:8px;">Somehow, though, I did see this coming.</span></p><p> </p><p> In other things I've been somewhat reluctant to admit, the Boogeyman was the first person to catch my interest in wrestling.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Seriously, though, you guys don't think Jericho's voice makes him sound like a pip-squeak little guy? Orton's voice sounds strong.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Actually I do not find Orton's bass that heavy or smooth. But what do I know.</p>

[hellshock70]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MichiganHero" data-cite="MichiganHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><span>http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w140/thirteenthghetto/batistahating.jpg</span><p> </p><p> Someone hates Batista.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think I mentioned this a month or so ago in one thread or another. And they're worried about Edge now too.</p>

[Hyde Hill]

<p>On Anderson here is his Sacrifice Promo for those who missed it:</p><p> </p><p>

<a href="

rel="external nofollow">

[Big Roguey]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="hellshock70" data-cite="hellshock70" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think I mentioned this a month or so ago in one thread or another. And they're worried about Edge now too.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I was meaning the fact that so many spambots/immature 12 year-olds tried to fit in as many crappy insults as they could in.</p>

[-laz-]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hyde Hill" data-cite="Hyde Hill" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>On Anderson here is his Sacrifice Promo for those who missed it:<p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xddqtj_mr-anderson-promo-sacrifice-10_fun" rel="external nofollow">http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xddqtj_mr-anderson-promo-sacrifice-10_fun</a></p></div></blockquote><p> "Thanks *******s" loved that promo was the highlight of the ppv for me</p>

[Hyde Hill]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="hellshock70" data-cite="hellshock70" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think I mentioned this a month or so ago in one thread or another. And they're worried about Edge now too.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Now Edge would be a welcome addition to TNA. Tista nope. Same as Goldberg only works if he is winning a lot and is kept strong so you can not job him out. Plus he would cost a lot of money. Still Hogan loves big guys and dumb decisions so expect to see him soon *Groan*.</p>

[hellshock70]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MichiganHero" data-cite="MichiganHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I was meaning the fact that so many spambots/immature 12 year-olds tried to fit in as many crappy insults as they could in.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That happens in a lot of places including forums. LOL</p>

[Linsolv]

Well, that video wasn't actually that impressive to me. It showed me that Anderson is REALLY over, but I was... nonplussed by his antics.

[hellshock70]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hyde Hill" data-cite="Hyde Hill" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Now Edge would be a welcome addition to TNA. Tista nope. Same as Goldberg only works if he is winning a lot and is kept strong so you can not job him out. Plus he would cost a lot of money. Still Hogan loves big guys and dumb decisions so expect to see him soon *Groan*.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The only reason they're even worried about him now is because of Hogan. And as most of you probably know Hogan was Edge's hero growing up. Then again he could use it to get a better contract with WWE.</p>

[Hyde Hill]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Linsolv" data-cite="Linsolv" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well, that video wasn't actually that impressive to me. It showed me that Anderson is REALLY over, but I was... nonplussed by his antics.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thing is he wasn't really "over" before the promo. When he came in he even got overrated chants etc. Crowd really responded to this.</p>

[Charasmatic Enigma]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Hyde Hill" data-cite="Hyde Hill" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>On Anderson here is his Sacrifice Promo for those who missed it:<p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xddqtj_mr-anderson-promo-sacrifice-10_fun" rel="external nofollow">http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xddqtj_mr-anderson-promo-sacrifice-10_fun</a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thanks for putting that up, that was a great promo from Mr Anderson</p>

[CQI13]

HAHAHA, that was hilarious to me. Wow, I guess there is stuff I'm missing. LOL

[hellshock70]

<p>Here is a funky looking pic of Bryan Danielson</p><p> </p><p>

<span>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Count_Danielson.jpg</span></p><p>

<span>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Count_Danielson.jpg</span></p>

[Linsolv]

Nice find, Tony the Tiger.