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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BloodyKnuckles" data-cite="BloodyKnuckles" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I would say the Steelers fanbase is one of the most fickle in sports. I'm not saying they don't have any real fans, and they do have a massive amount of them, but pretty much everyone I've met that is a Steeler's fan can't name a single player on the team.<p> </p><p> Then again, I'm a Chargers fan and I'm probably the only one who can name most of the team lol.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> I dunno, the only fans the Cavaliers have are bandwagon fans. No one gives a crap about them unless Lebron is on the team.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Fantabulous" data-cite="Fantabulous" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If you really want to offend a die-hard Liverpool fan, call them a Sun reader.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> True, but calling most people a Sun reader is offensive. Much worse to a pool fan though.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="20LEgend" data-cite="20LEgend" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>True, but calling most people a Sun reader is offensive. Much worse to a pool fan though.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I tried googling sun reader and all I got was sunglasses <img alt=":confused:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/confused.png.d4a8e6b6eab0c67698b911fb041c0ed1.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p><p> </p><p> I'm going to hazard a guess that it has to do with that tabloid newspaper The Sun?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I tried googling sun reader and all I got was sunglasses <img alt=":confused:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/confused.png.d4a8e6b6eab0c67698b911fb041c0ed1.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> I'm going to hazard a guess that it has to do with that tabloid newspaper The Sun?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster#The_Sun_newspaper" rel="external nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster#The_Sun_newspaper</a></p><p> </p><p> The reason I said it would offend most people is it is a piece of crap, spreading lies, and is just a terrible new paper and it is also part of News International which is owned by Rupert Murdoch and it is a very much under scrutiny news company in the UK, which have tapped the phones of murder victims families among other things, I don't know if it's news in the States.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I tried googling sun reader and all I got was sunglasses <img alt=":confused:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/confused.png.d4a8e6b6eab0c67698b911fb041c0ed1.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> I'm going to hazard a guess that it has to do with that tabloid newspaper The Sun?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yep. They decided to report on some negative aspects of what allegedly happened after the Hillsborough Disaster. It was really poor taste, and you just have to wonder why they did it.</p><p> </p><p> More information can be found here: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster#The_Sun_newspaper" rel="external nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster#The_Sun_newspaper</a></p><p> </p><p> Edit : Beat to it, with the exact same link. Awkward <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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<p>This is happen on the Wednesday after the disaster which happened on a Saturday.</p><p> </p><p>

Also since this has gone way off the subject of WWE. Did anyone see this picture of The Undertaker <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

<span>http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n304/vampdude/Undertaker.jpg</span></p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="20LEgend" data-cite="20LEgend" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This is happen on the Wednesday after the disaster which happened on a Saturday.<p> </p><p> Also since this has gone way off the subject of WWE. Did anyone see this picture of The Undertaker <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> <span>http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n304/vampdude/Undertaker.jpg</span></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah I saw that a couple of days ago. I honestly can't believe its him.</p>
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It looks more odd than when I say Britney Spears and CM Punk (That one freaked me out, with The Big Show holding him like a baby <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />) bald for the first time!
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="20LEgend" data-cite="20LEgend" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This is happen on the Wednesday after the disaster which happened on a Saturday.<p> </p><p> Also since this has gone way off the subject of WWE. Did anyone see this picture of The Undertaker <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> <span>http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n304/vampdude/Undertaker.jpg</span></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It just doesn't look like the Undertaker at all and yet it is him. Would be interesting to see how he comes back. Maybe another version of the American Badass?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I dunno, the only fans the Cavaliers have are bandwagon fans. No one gives a crap about them unless Lebron is on the team.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Being from Cleveland, you're absolutely right.</p><p> </p><p> But I'm 16 and I've been a fan of them since I was born and they still are my favorite team.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I only think the Raw MITB can go 2 ways. I see either ADR winning it and either keeping it to cash in at SS or after the Cena/Punk match regardless of outcome. The other outcome I could see is Alex Riley winning to contnue the feud with the Miz. I just hope he gets some actual mic time soon because his character of just wanting to fight Miz won't do much after the feud is over.<p> </p><p> <strong>On the SD side I think Sheamus is the obvious pick, but I see Barret and Sheamus canceling each other out. This leads to Cody winning MITB.</strong></p><p> </p><p> Other than that I think Christian wins the title with a low blow.</p><p> </p><p> Kelly and Show win.</p><p> </p><p> And Vince helps Cena retain the title.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think the only people that can win the SD MITB is Rhodes, Barret and Sheamus. As much as I'm a big Cody Rhodes fan I think Barrett will win because he needs to win the most.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Lo-Drew" data-cite="Lo-Drew" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Being from Cleveland, you're absolutely right.<p> </p><p> But I'm 16 and I've been a fan of them since I was born and they still are my favorite team.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I live not THAT far from you <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p><p> </p><p> I grew up in Kent, Stow, Ravenna area so at least you didn't have to grow up around Lebron. JESUS talk about annoying. The dude was a few grades higher than me and everyday we were told he was destined for great things and we were never going to amount to anything...great teachers huh?</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="FlameSnoopy" data-cite="FlameSnoopy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I just had to response to this. I had to. I got so incredibly stuck on how selfish you appeared.<p> </p><p> First of all, you are living in a society. You hold your opinion, one holds his/her own as well. You cannot change the society. It's the babylon system. It's how it works.</p><p> </p><p> Second of all, you should never judge one if you do not know their story. Just because your an American, you have a lot of material wealth to throw around doesn't mean that one fills those same criterions. Your basically accusing the society you live in for doing something against the law (thus, against the norm) and stealing, when you are in fact stomping on so many lives across the world just to make you yourself happy. Its ridiculous to see that you do not understand that everyone doesn't share the same material wealth that you do. You come off so selfish, it looks like you don't actually give a **** about other people. It looks like all you care is yourself, and the things you love. Do not judge when you do not know the story.</p><p> </p><p> Also, it is hardly a great point to fight off piracy against the wrestling community by saying that it needs a one-mans support. When all the workers are pulling incredible pay-checks inside the WWE, streaming the PPV is hardly a big concern. When the system develops, the industry has to develop alongside it, not fight against it. </p><p> </p><p> Surprisingly, I'm all for piracy. I'm openly for it. If everyone would share, the world would be a better place. But you just cannot change the system. The World needs to be equal. People from all around the World should be equal. But that will <span style="text-decoration:underline;">never</span> happen, because the human is so selfish, that it cannot give back or be equal with everyone. You just got to be better than the other. You got to have more wealth than the other. You have to cross out every box its ridiculous. If everyone would help eachother, if everyone would share things with eachother, everyone would feel better. But no. Not now. Not in the future.</p><p> </p><p> And even though you say you are not attacking against anyone. You are. Just because you care about the wrestling industry more than the original poster, just because you love it so much that you put so much of your material wealth into it, doesn't mean the original poster needs to. You don't need to give out money to the homeless kids. You don't need to share your wealth. Everyone has the right to decide what to support, and just because one doesn't want to support what you do, doesn't mean that he is doing something wrong. And just because you support it doesn't mean that you are in any way better or above anyother in the babylon system food chain.</p><p> </p><p> You say that pirates are the ones screwing over the industry. People like you are the ones screwing over the World.</p><p> </p><p> Usually, I try to play it cool. Try to treat everyone with respect. But in this case, my patience ran out. I had to say something. If someone is truly hurt by my opinion and post, I apologise. Have a fun day wherever you are. We are still living on the same globe. Peace out!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You think that just because I'm an American I'm rich? I'm below middle class. The reason that it pisses me off when people pirate wrestling PPVs and what not is because the only entertainment I usually buy is the PPVs, and when I don't I don't watch it. Also, when I do buy the PPVs, that's usually the only entertainment that I get for the next two months. FlameSnoopy, you think that you are above me just because you talk about sharing and peace. I've seen your arguments on the forums before. You aren't really all that calm, as a matter of fact you start twice as many arguments as me. Hell, I'm not better than anybody else. I just watch wrestling and trying to make a living, occasionally buying PPVs. Like I said, people pirating things is a huge pet peeve of mine. I also don't care if, say, somebody who is so poor that they can barely afford food pirates the PPVs. I only care if they have the money/have a job where they can afford to get a PPV. Also, if everybody pirated everything, nobody would be making/putting on wrestling shows and PPVs. The whole industry would be crippled.</p>
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Also, one last thing FlameSnoopy. Don't put words into my mouth and don't take things out of context like you did there. Your post ticked me off because it sounded to me like you were trying to make up a whole conspiracy theory about my post. Saying things like "babylonian society" make you sound like you are one of those crazy conspiracy theory people.
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Speaking of "conspiracy" do you think they will play into R-Truth's fear of height of was that just part of the promo and him being crazy and lying. I reckon they will do the Doug Williams thing where he climbs but really tentatively. The problem is Williams now does top rope moves regularly.
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="20LEgend" data-cite="20LEgend" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Speaking of "conspiracy" do you think they will play into R-Truth's fear of height of was that just part of the promo and him being crazy and lying. I reckon they will do the Doug Williams thing where he climbs but really tentatively. The problem is Williams now does top rope moves regularly.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I honestly hope they don't, as R-Truth has never had a problem climbing to the top rope for the past decade. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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I just had to response to this. I had to. I got so incredibly stuck on how selfish you appeared.

 

First of all, you are living in a society. You hold your opinion, one holds his/her own as well. You cannot change the society. It's the babylon system. It's how it works.

 

Second of all, you should never judge one if you do not know their story. Just because your an American, you have a lot of material wealth to throw around doesn't mean that one fills those same criterions. Your basically accusing the society you live in for doing something against the law (thus, against the norm) and stealing, when you are in fact stomping on so many lives across the world just to make you yourself happy. Its ridiculous to see that you do not understand that everyone doesn't share the same material wealth that you do. You come off so selfish, it looks like you don't actually give a **** about other people. It looks like all you care is yourself, and the things you love. Do not judge when you do not know the story.

 

Also, it is hardly a great point to fight off piracy against the wrestling community by saying that it needs a one-mans support. When all the workers are pulling incredible pay-checks inside the WWE, streaming the PPV is hardly a big concern. When the system develops, the industry has to develop alongside it, not fight against it.

 

Surprisingly, I'm all for piracy. I'm openly for it. If everyone would share, the world would be a better place. But you just cannot change the system. The World needs to be equal. People from all around the World should be equal. But that will never happen, because the human is so selfish, that it cannot give back or be equal with everyone. You just got to be better than the other. You got to have more wealth than the other. You have to cross out every box its ridiculous. If everyone would help eachother, if everyone would share things with eachother, everyone would feel better. But no. Not now. Not in the future.

 

The world doesn't need to see people getting equal status, or material wealth. The world wouldnt even function if everything was divided to everyone in a equal way. To do so would be contradicting the liberty concept. If someone says i can't have more than person A or B, than my liberty is beeing limited. People want a beatiful world where no one has more than anyone, but it won't ever happen because it's impossible to implement. It would go against all the ideas surrounding the whole concept of beeing free to do/gain what you can.

 

Kind of a late reply to this, but i still had to do it.

 

Though i do agree with you in some other points made in the post, including in a part about piracy.

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On the topic of the Face/Heel buses - they were on a tour of Australia. I'm pretty sure foreign travel is all booked by WWE as opposed to their regular US/Canadian schedule where people make their own way.

 

Also, I believe it was only Raw who were touring Aus/NZ, so Orton wouldn't be there at all.

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You think that just because I'm an American I'm rich? I'm below middle class. The reason that it pisses me off when people pirate wrestling PPVs and what not is because the only entertainment I usually buy is the PPVs, and when I don't I don't watch it. Also, when I do buy the PPVs, that's usually the only entertainment that I get for the next two months. FlameSnoopy, you think that you are above me just because you talk about sharing and peace. I've seen your arguments on the forums before. You aren't really all that calm, as a matter of fact you start twice as many arguments as me. Hell, I'm not better than anybody else. I just watch wrestling and trying to make a living, occasionally buying PPVs. Like I said, people pirating things is a huge pet peeve of mine. I also don't care if, say, somebody who is so poor that they can barely afford food pirates the PPVs. I only care if they have the money/have a job where they can afford to get a PPV. Also, if everybody pirated everything, nobody would be making/putting on wrestling shows and PPVs. The whole industry would be crippled.

 

So your saying that people who have material wealth, need to use it to support the industry you love? Just because you do what you do, shouldn't mean that the one who shares the same amount of (material) wealth or more than you, should. Again, people have the ability to support what they want. Some support poor African kids, some the WWE. I believe in karma (what goes around comes around, the forest answers how you shout), so by supporting poor kids who can barely have food, have no electricity and are low on water is a better action than supporting the WWE. But in no way does it make them a step over anyone else as a human being.

 

I wasn't trying to make a whole conspiracy theory about your post. I truly wasn't. I just don't get why you are calling me crazy, and aligning me with an unknown group of 'conspiracy people'. Am I crazy just because I hold different beliefs than you? Am I crazy because I relate to the rastafarian movement? The last I check, everyone had a freedom of belief.

 

And heh. I know I'm really not that calm. But over the years I have developed it to a level I'm slightly proud of myself. I can now play it cool in many situations. I'm not saying I was insane back in the day, just saying nowadays my patience lasts much longer than it did "back in the days". And I do start arguments. I love arguing. It is often intellectually challenging and often satisfying. And it's almost always fun :)

 

The world doesn't need to see people getting equal status, or material wealth. The world wouldnt even function if everything was divided to everyone in a equal way. To do so would be contradicting the liberty concept. If someone says i can't have more than person A or B, than my liberty is beeing limited. People want a beatiful world where no one has more than anyone, but it won't ever happen because it's impossible to implement. It would go against all the ideas surrounding the whole concept of beeing free to do/gain what you can.

 

Kind of a late reply to this, but i still had to do it.

 

Though i do agree with you in some other points made in the post, including in a part about piracy.

 

Very good reply shawn.

 

Your right, it couldn't operate that way. The system couldn't operate that way. The modern legislation works in a way that you limit ones freedom and allow them to work under a law. So that even though it is a freedom of speech, you can get punished by using it to an extent. (atleast here in Finland) For example, so that you cannot express wildly racistic beliefs.

 

I would find it extremely satisfying if everyone would be treated equally, and people would find less satisfaction from material wealth and more from common things. I'm content with what I have. I feel happy just from a walk alone in the forest. I can reach somewhat an inner "harmony" by walking and listening to music. But I know more people who are not like that than people who are like that. I find it disappointing that people can't enjoy the little things more than they do today. Most people should be thankful for what they have, I know I am.

 

But in no way, does it make me a better person. People will always enjoy different things and such, and its fine. But I truly do think that if they would pay more attention, they would be more satisfied with life.

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<p>I'd love to pay for WWE PPVs but it's too expensive with Foxtel's monopoly in Australia.</p><p> </p><p>

Foxtel Platinum HD - $1560 per year</p><p>

Foxtel IQ HD - $120 per year</p><p>

Multiroom Access - $180 per year</p><p>

12 WWE PPVs - $360 per year (assuming $30 per PPV)</p><p>

= $2200 per year</p><p> </p><p>

And all I really want to watch is WWE, EPL on Fox Sports and Game of Thrones on Showtime.</p><p> </p><p>

I would pay a monthly fee to legally download PPVs in a low quality format like 360p and watch them on my PC.</p>

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