Zeel1 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 For what it's worth, he claims that he's not face or heel on twitter, and that these terms are outdated and don't exist anymore. They just are who they are. But yeah, a very strong Raw all-around, I think. Morrison/Del Rio was a good opener, Bourne/Kingston winning the tag titles was nice, Miz and Truth are great together, Cena/Punk was great and the main angle is pretty intriguing to me. Not really any bad spots on Raw this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djthefunkchris Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 @Sayso, I did catch the end of that match, and from what I saw, it was a strong match that and the commentary by JR was making ADR seem really strong "I don't know if Punk OR Cena could take ADR right now." I missed the conversation though, hoping to catch it on youtube or something later. I took the family out to eat and didn't make it home till after RAW started (at that point it was toward the end of the ADR vs Morrison match). Was around 8:30/8:45, not exactly sure how much I missed to the minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostDogg Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 I know this is a long shot, but what if the person behind all of this is..."Dramatic pause".....Vince? I mean think about it. Who does he blame for his "relieving"? Cena and Punk equally! So call in Nash who happens to be Trips best friend and he would have leverage against him. Then have ADR take out Cena, and the title would be safely in the hands of the Corporation, but who would be the Corporations leader? Think about it. John Laurenitis: Is a modern Day Stooge, and not charismatic enough to pull it off. Stephanie: Maybe. but then again, it would be too obvious. Trips; If it was him it would make as much since as Vince being the Higher Power and the leader of the "Corporate Ministry" (remember that? ) Linda: Running for Senate, again, plus she was a HORRIBLE Heel. So it HAS to be Vince. What you think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanityisforbidden Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 It won't be Triple H, as Laurenitis told him a bout the car crash. Laurenitis also had access to Triple H's room at SummerSlam, since he was in their holding meetings or what ever. Therefore, the man who texted Nash on Triple H's cell phone, was in fact Laurenitis. Who is also in charge of hiring, therefore offered Kevin Nash a contract, and hasn't told Triple H about it. He also told Kevin Nash that he was not allowed to tell Triple H otherwise the contract is null and void. That's my theory, but it's based on logic, and you can't use logic when looking at WWE's booking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostDogg Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 But one question. what would be Laurenitis reasoning behind it? I mean his motive is not "personal" enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanityisforbidden Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 He's doing it for Vince McMahon, it was Punks fault really that McMahon was removed from his position. And Laurenitis is a long time friend/employee of McMahon, who has worked closed with him for at least 12 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_Starr36 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Not within your debate about who's behind everything, but... The whole match between Punk and Cena was hilarious, Punk was laughing after a good portion of the moves Cena did to him, don't know if that's part of their storyline or whatever, but it made me laugh, a lot... And was Punk the one who said " I'm flying " when Punk went for the springboard clothesline from the outside of the apron? If so, Punk is just hilarious. And I believe after Cena did his normal thing, with the diving shoulder blocks, and a miss clothesline from Punk into a spinout powerbomb, you can visibly see Punk sarcastically acting like he's in danger and laughing...Just about the same thing when Punk dove off the top rope onto a standing Cena and he rolled through and lifted him in a fallaway slam manner, Punk was bobbling his head like crazy towards the crowd, who ate it up, only for him to be shifted and lifted into an AA, and Punk looked like he got like.. Angry and serious all at once with the elbows to reverse/counter/escape the AA attempt. This all was very entertaining though, at least to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 But one question. what would be Laurenitis reasoning behind it? I mean his motive is not "personal" enough Technically, both men within the span of ... two weeks? ... assaulted Johnny Ace. Cena with the shot at MitB, and Punk kicking him in the head. And during that span, both men have questioned his authority, and insulted him, so there is a personal vein that runs through it. I'd believe it would be at the call of someone higher, though, such as a Stephanie or Vince. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHK1978 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 I know this is a long shot, but what if the person behind all of this is..."Dramatic pause".....Vince? I mean think about it. Who does he blame for his "relieving"? Cena and Punk equally! So call in Nash who happens to be Trips best friend and he would have leverage against him. Then have ADR take out Cena, and the title would be safely in the hands of the Corporation, but who would be the Corporations leader? Think about it. John Laurenitis: Is a modern Day Stooge, and not charismatic enough to pull it off. Stephanie: Maybe. but then again, it would be too obvious. Trips; If it was him it would make as much since as Vince being the Higher Power and the leader of the "Corporate Ministry" (remember that? ) Linda: Running for Senate, again, plus she was a HORRIBLE Heel. So it HAS to be Vince. What you think I really do not think it is that much of a long shot, I actually think it makes perfect sense. Even your reasoning behind it seems to be a perfect fit. Therefore the WWF will not go with it because it makes too much sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 I think it'll be revelaed little by little that Steph had something to do with all this. And Johnny Ace is probably in on it. It's all a conspiracy to get Vince back in there and ruin Triple H in the eyes of the board. Not saying anything new or crazy but I dont think it's one person. They'll make it seem like this huge reveal and that it WAS one of them all along, but I think more crap will come out on TV and it'll be a bigger conspiracy with several people involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantabulous Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Rey is having surgery on his torn ACL later this week and is expect to be out for six-months, possibly longer. Enjoy the knee replacement surgery in your later years, Rey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Is he getting the full replacement? That sucks. I dont wish that on anyone that's a very tough surgery to have. Especially Rey. He stood outside in the cold and signed autographs for about an hour after a show here in Philly. Pretty much all the other "big" names got in their cars but Rey stood out and talked to his fans and took pictures and everything. He really was a great guy, or at least came off that way to me. I was under the impression they were doing reconstuctive surgery on the ACL and/or MCL since the tendon issues were the problem moreso than connective tissue loss. I mean that surgery sucks too but if you couple that on top of getting a full knee replacement... it's not good. I hope he gets better but maybe decides he's done enough in wrestling and doesn't need to jeopardize his future anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Best Raw this year. Good matches and hot angles. The crowd was rocking. Shame we won't see Punk v Cena v ADR. Still, I'd settle for a Nash v Punk street or cage match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeel1 Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 Ha. Word going around is that Miz and Truth will be called "Awesome Truth". That's funny, that's the name of a stable I had in SVR '11, and it too was Miz/Truth. Morrison was added later. The name still seemed appropriate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted August 23, 2011 Share Posted August 23, 2011 I had Otunga and Pat Patterson as the Ambiguously Gay Duo in my SvR universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantabulous Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Todd Grisham has left for a job with ESPN. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tha Black Phenom Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 He wasn't that bad, well.. at least as a backstage interviewer. Wasn't super on commentary though, shouldn't have been kept on there that long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Todd Grisham has left for a job with ESPN. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Him and Striker were the next great duo in my honest opinion. They were awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMegaFish Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Anybody else watching the continual deterioration of Matt Hardy? It's a shame, he was one of my favorites from when the Hardys got popular until around his feud with MVP. What a waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Anybody else watching the continual deterioration of Matt Hardy? It's a shame, he was one of my favorites from when the Hardys got popular until around his feud with MVP. What a waste. Hey, it's not his fault! It's all because of that darn ghost! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 It started when his brother's god died in a fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappyboy Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Todd Grisham has left for a job with ESPN. Good riddance to bad rubbish. And maybe like Jonathan Coachman before him, he'll prove to be better there than he was with WWE. Then again, I've seen Grisham on Fox Soccer a couple times and wasn't impressed with him there either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rone Rivendale Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 It started when his brother's god died in a fire. I hope you meant DOG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 It was a joke from way back lol. Somewhere someone said Jeff is sad that his dog died, but they spelled it god. That would suck if your God died... I do like Grisham though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 TLIS is up. I would say watch just for Ziggler's part, he was pretty good there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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