Teh_Showtime Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 They did that to Warrior because by all accounts he was a terrible person. It wasn't the right thing to do at all, but it's not like they had some random hatred of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 They did that to Warrior because by all accounts he was a terrible person. It wasn't the right thing to do at all, but it's not like they had some random hatred of him. They also planned to do the same thing to Bret Hart before he agreed to participate in their DVD and go into the hall of fame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swanton825 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Ugh, anyone else uncomfortable seeing Jamie Noble take those back bumps considering what retired him? EDIT: Anonymous Raw GM is back: http://replygif.net/i/272.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMegaFish Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Ugh, anyone else uncomfortable seeing Jamie Noble take those back bumps considering what retired him? EDIT: Anonymous Raw GM is back: http://replygif.net/i/272.gif I have a feeling it's only coming back for Cyber Monday. It's kinda fitting and the WWE's storyline is running at the exact right time for it. Plus, it'll give Hornswoggle something to do...for better or for worse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Yes SS was awesome. The only real criticism I'm reading here or anywhere else is "Meh. First two hours were average. Main event was the only thing memorable." Oh you mean that breathtaking HOUR of WWE programming? LOL. Hate it break it to you, wrestling fans, but since you're so used to complaining all the time you don't even know when you're being entertained. If you watch a mediocre undercard and the last hour was a universally loved AWESOME main event... you just watched a hell of a PPV. Thank me later, folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashasheen Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Yes SS was awesome. The only real criticism I'm reading here or anywhere else is "Meh. First two hours were average. Main event was the only thing memorable." Oh you mean that breathtaking HOUR of WWE programming? LOL. Hate it break it to you, wrestling fans, but since you're so used to complaining all the time you don't even know when you're being entertained. If you watch a mediocre undercard and the last hour was a universally loved AWESOME main event... you just watched a hell of a PPV. Thank me later, folks. Er, no. That just means the last hour of the show made up for two shit hours (which let's face, was what it was when you get two different Divas matches, put Swagger-Cesaro on for the umpteenth time in the pre-show, redebut Fandango, and let the Bunny and Rose fight Slater/O'Neal like the stage was Main Event). The fact that they were desperately filling up as much time as possible should have clued anyone in that this wasn't going to be a good top-to-bottom show, if the lack of promotion beforehand hadn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayW Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Yes SS was awesome. The only real criticism I'm reading here or anywhere else is "Meh. First two hours were average. Main event was the only thing memorable." Oh you mean that breathtaking HOUR of WWE programming? LOL. Hate it break it to you, wrestling fans, but since you're so used to complaining all the time you don't even know when you're being entertained. If you watch a mediocre undercard and the last hour was a universally loved AWESOME main event... you just watched a hell of a PPV. Thank me later, folks. I have to disagree. If only 1/3rd of the show is "good", how can the whole show be "good"? If the majority of the show is average of below, but the main event is above average, then the show gets an average score (or so that's what TEW would tell us ). I recently watched the new Godzilla movie, and didn't like it, except the last half an hour. Liking the last half an hour didn't make a two hour long movie good. It annoyed me that they spent so much time on the "finish" of the movie that the rest of it was neglected and felt like filler. Same can be said for Survivor Series. If I'm bored for two hours of a three hour PPV, I do not see that as a success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RKOwnage Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 If it had been Cena and not Dolph, would we still be singing the praises of this match/show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Considering that Dolph sells a beating far better than Cena and is a better wrestler, with Dolph and Cena switching spots the match wouldn't have been nearly as good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I have to disagree. If only 1/3rd of the show is "good", how can the whole show be "good"? If the majority of the show is average of below, but the main event is above average, then the show gets an average score (or so that's what TEW would tell us ). I recently watched the new Godzilla movie, and didn't like it, except the last half an hour. Liking the last half an hour didn't make a two hour long movie good. It annoyed me that they spent so much time on the "finish" of the movie that the rest of it was neglected and felt like filler. Same can be said for Survivor Series. If I'm bored for two hours of a three hour PPV, I do not see that as a success. The 2 major matches (Main event and Bray vs Ambrose) were good, IMO, and the Tag Title match in the undercard was fun. Not including the Pre-Show which I rarely watch, that leaves 3 undercard matches that weren't particularly good. The only real disappointment was Nikki and AJ not getting the chance to have a proper match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayW Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The 2 major matches (Main event and Bray vs Ambrose) were good, IMO, and the Tag Title match in the undercard was fun. Not including the Pre-Show which I rarely watch, that leaves 3 undercard matches that weren't particularly good. The only real disappointment was Nikki and AJ not getting the chance to have a proper match. Obviously this all comes down to personal opinion, but I was a little bored - I over exaggerated a little, as I enjoyed Ambrose/Wyatt, but I was still a little bored for the majority of the show, until the main event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Its a rare show that thrills from top to bottom. I felt this was one of them. If not close to it. I enjoyed everything except the Adam Rose match. My point is AT WORST you saw a mediocre midcard with an incredible main event. Traditionally its pretty rare that all 3 hours of a wrestling show thrill everyone watching for every minute. A show where you get one memorable, enjoyable hour of PPV wrestling... thats great stuff man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 O.M.G I just noticed Tyson Kidd's 'Grumpy Cat'-themed legwarmers at Survivor Series. That man is just pure greatness. Fact. http://i.imgur.com/MbxI7zU.jpg The event itself was ok, with a nice finish that unfortunately was kinda spoiled to me as I went on fb before seeing the event (my mistake obv). The Adam Rose match, however, had no place on that card. But it's not like I hated it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Raw Review: Opening segment - Trips and Steph are so damn good at working the mark crowds. D-Bry had some fun. The segment went on too long, though. Ryback vs Henry - Squash match. Henry buried again. Ambrose vs Harper (Intercontinental Championship) - Good match. The finish worked to protect both guys and Bray got his revenge, which will make Ambrose want to up the ante at TLC. Dust Bros vs Team Mizdow (Tag Team Championship) - Lillian goofed! Solid match. Faking injury to the moneymaker was Miz's best performance of his career Rusev, Lana, Sarge & Swagger - Amusing segment but Swagger/Rusev was put to bed weeks ago so that was lazy booking. Gabriel vs Fandango - OK match. Big Show - Worth listening to just to see Rowan kick his ass. Brie vs AJ - OK match. Good promo work from AJ. Rose & Bunny vs Kidd & Natalya - Harmless comedy match. Concessions Kane - Pretty funny. The Ryback segment was the best one. Ziggler & Cena vs Rollins, J&J Security - Fun match. J&J are awesome. Anonymous Raw GM - Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! Verdict: Average show. Some entertaining promos and segments but not enough quality wrestling. And no Sting or Orton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickymex Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Tyson Kidd has 3 cats. Apparently Natalya gets one and a half in the divorce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganRodzen Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Considering that Dolph sells a beating far better than Cena and is a better wrestler, with Dolph and Cena switching spots the match wouldn't have been nearly as good. Exactly. I was actually BLOWN AWAY that Cena wasn't the savior. The fact they let Ziggler get the credit and show off the way he can... it was one of the best booking decisions WWE has made in a long time (I don't watch on a regular basis but I read results and follow along day to day to all wrestling news). I hope they finally give him the long term spotlight he deserves. The guy is an absolute star that makes everyone else look better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMegaFish Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 This isn't a meant to be a slight against Ziggler, or Rollins for that matter, but I think part of the reason Ziggler probably got the nod at the end of the match was due to 1.Big Show's turn angle works better by hitting the perceived strongest member on the team 2. Ziggler plays a scrapy underdog better, which was played up by the number advantage 3. Sting is the mega star face coming out, no need to have Cena in there distracting from that. I think Sting would have looked less like a star with the biggest face, Cena, in the WWE in the ring also. Ziggler is getting a push, sure, but he isn't going to possibly steal the spotlight from Sting. If Cena were there, I think you'd have been expecting some kind of reaction from Cena getting up and actually rubbing shoulders with Sting and diminishing Sting's overall impact. Just my thoughts though. I did definitely enjoy how it all played out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitarzu Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Great timing! http://i.imgur.com/lAk2AEM.gif Now I want Cena vs Reigns in a Punch The Ring match, but only on PPV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakerNGN74 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Great timing! http://i.imgur.com/lAk2AEM.gif Now I want Cena vs Reigns in a Punch The Ring match, but only on PPV. Oh wow that's terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitarzu Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Oh wow that's terrible. Considering what happened to Joey Mercury, a broken nose by a ladder in fatal four way for the tag titles, probably Cena want to protect him. He just went too short! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOmniWarrior Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 But john cena NEVER hits with the 5 knuckle shuffle. Ever. Not the first time the cameras will expose it, nor the last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swanton825 Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 But john cena NEVER hits with the 5 knuckle shuffle. Ever. Not the first time the cameras will expose it, nor the last. I KNOW, it's almost like these guys are trained how not to hit people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashasheen Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxHRJnZsinQ&feature=youtu.be Punk finally talks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FINisher Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/must-read-cm-punk-tells-the-real-story-why-he-s-gone-from-wwe This was quite the read. The same thing as Hashasheen's youtubelink but on written form and summarized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackKnifed72 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxHRJnZsinQ&feature=youtu.be Punk finally talks. While I'm sure alot of what Punk says is true, I remember hearing a quote from Scott Levy (Raven) - Punk always had an inflated opinion of himself... "WWE didn't make me...I was CM Punk before I got there"...just like how many other talented indie guys? "Money isn't everything"...talks about how much money he should have made for the next hour and a half. "I don't want to bash WWE"...rips on WWE for the next hour and a half. Meh...talented guy but sounds like a narcissistic windbag, I'd rather see guys like Wyatt, Ambrose, Rollins and/or Bryan get his spot in WWE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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