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Adam Ryland

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I listened to the podcast today. He definitely comes across as bitter, but he pretty much stated that flat out in the very beginning. What he had to say about Vince, Trips and the WWE in general was interesting in and of itself, but what I took away more than anything was the incompetence of the WWE's doctor(s). They came across horribly there, and it's no surprise to me that that's the one thing they actually responded to.

 

I may not like the guy but I do agree with some of the stuff he said within the podcast. I will hold off further judgment on this issue until December 1st when I hear McMahon's side of the story on The Steve Austin Show if that is something that they are going to talk about on it and I imagine that it will be talked about.

I highly doubt that they'll touch on it. I'm sure Austin would have no problem addressing it, but I would bet Vince will talk to him beforehand and tell him that this topic is off-limits.

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I thought it was a great listen. I used YouTube and went through bits and pieces of the Rumble to see if I could see what Punk was talking about, and it all seemed to check out. I didn't realize quite how banged up and rough he looked in that Rumble match, even at the start. Within 10 mins in to the match he is grimacing really hard. Reminded me of watching HBK and Stone Cold's WM match.

 

I know it's one mans side to a story, but I definitely didn't think he really said anything too terrible about anyone other than the doctors. Sure, some things he said seemed a bit bitter, but think about how you talk about some of your past jobs. I know that while I did enjoy a lot of my last job, there were definitely things I could vent that would seem harsh.

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I'm guessing the fact he spoke out means that AJ must be leaving soon.

 

From what initial reports are saying the wrestlers are on punk's side, even the ones who don't like him, while Vince is mad and Triple H is furious.

 

Just remember, those "reports" reported a bunch of B.S. in the first place. According to punk anyway :)

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I thought it was a great listen. I used YouTube and went through bits and pieces of the Rumble to see if I could see what Punk was talking about, and it all seemed to check out. I didn't realize quite how banged up and rough he looked in that Rumble match, even at the start. Within 10 mins in to the match he is grimacing really hard. Reminded me of watching HBK and Stone Cold's WM match.

 

Yeah, when I saw it live I noticed Kane being there well before he did anything, it was good to hear the story behind that. It's really quite sad that the company/business fosters this mentality of striving forward when you're injured, always going the extra mile, hoping to be recognised and rewarded for it, even if instead they give the glory to people who put in a lot less effort. Even after everything Punk had been through, even knowing the WM plans, even with how beaten up he was, with an undiagnosed staph infection and a concussion, he still maintained that he had to keep doing the job he was asked to do.

 

I'm glad that he's managed to find happiness outside of that system.

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This post stands a good chance to get lost in all this CM Punk talk, but here it goes.

 

I had read that Nikki Bella actually cut a good promo on Smackdown. I found it and watched it, but it seems like it was weirdly cut and edited. The parts they kept seemed decent enough but it felt...incomplete? If that's the case then it's a shame, as I think Nikki has definitely grown leaps and bounds in the ring and on the microphone over the past year.

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This post stands a good chance to get lost in all this CM Punk talk, but here it goes.

 

I had read that Nikki Bella actually cut a good promo on Smackdown. I found it and watched it, but it seems like it was weirdly cut and edited. The parts they kept seemed decent enough but it felt...incomplete? If that's the case then it's a shame, as I think Nikki has definitely grown leaps and bounds in the ring and on the microphone over the past year.

 

I read she made reference to Punk and they needed the promo to advance an angle so they edited it as best they could.

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NXT was much better this week even though it was an angle-heavy show. Highlights: Breeze dry-retching at the "uggo of all uggos" Marcus Louis. Pop for Blue Pants (sign her up already!). Vaudevillians silent film (so good it practically turned them babyface again). 2nd Kevin Owens promo (more character development in 60 seconds than most wrestlers get in a year). Tyson blowing off Nattie to FaceTime his cats. Balor vs Kidd (Balor hit a Pele Kick, Twisting Brainbuster and Penalty Kick!).

 

 

Smackdown was a solid show. Highlights: Rowan eliminating Big Show and Mizdow stunt-eliminating himself in the US Championship Battle Royale. Merchandising Kane. Rollins vs Ryback. The New Day's impressive debut against Slater, Titus & Axel (they even busted out some team moves). Ziggler vs Harper for the Intercontinental Championship.

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I think it also said she went about 10 minutes and had a longer promo than Wyatt

 

So yeah that would need chopping down, cant have those females looking like stars with TV time. They do have their own show after all

 

Yeah it's being reported it was a long babyface-ish promo that was actually good because it wasn't completely scripted. Nikki also said that AJ was trying to be like Punk. Then the podcast happened. It probably would have been edited anyway but maybe not as much.

 

And here's the story behind the formation of The Shield from 2 perspectives (Punk and Rollins):

 

http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2014/11/29/7307343/the-backstage-story-of-the-shield-beginning-wwe-seth-rollins-cm-punk-dean-ambrose-roman-reigns

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With JR calling the show in the Tokyo Dome (New Japan, who has teamed up with GFW), any chance that WWE signs him just to keep him away?

 

In a somewhat related note, NJPW is launching their own Network, but currently only online (not through Roku, Apple TV, etc).

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Yeah it's being reported it was a long babyface-ish promo that was actually good because it wasn't completely scripted. Nikki also said that AJ was trying to be like Punk. Then the podcast happened. It probably would have been edited anyway but maybe not as much.

 

There's a transcript and audio of the full promo. It's really isn't that good as people tried to make it sound IMO. The bold parts are what aired.

 

“I’m not going to say trashy, classless things like Ms. Lee did because unlike Ms. Lee, I actually care about the kids that sit in this audience. It’s time that everyone heard the real truth about AJ Lee. Yes, we heard over and over and over again your sob story. Yes, we have heard over and over about how hard you worked. But you wanna know what? I have worked harder. The biggest difference between you and me is that I don’t have to go tell everyone so they like me. And most important, that is what makes me fearless.

 

You wanna know why you don’t have any friends? It’s because you’re so threatened by anyone who doesn’t like you. AJ, I want you to take a good hard look at what a woman is, a real woman, a classy woman! I want you to take a look at what a real Divas champion looks like. AJ, I want you to know that forever, through these fearless eyes, you will always be that pathetic manipulating little girl from New Jersey.

 

and on the CM Punk thing

 

http://botchedspot.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2014/11/2014-12-01-quieting-quitters.jpg

 

 

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What did people think of the Austin podcast on the Network? I thought he brought it in both a respectful and entertaining way. I really enjoyed it and would like to see more specials like this on the network going forward.

 

It was kind of a revelation to hear how many frickin' podcasts there are. How do people find the time to listen to all of them, watch all wrestling programming, and make thoughtful posts on fora. You honestly can't have any other hobbies if you do. :rolleyes:

 

To be honest, over the last year I have found myself investing more of my time into podcast world of wrestling than to actually watching shows. Steve Austin, Jim Ross, MLW, etc. have been 10x's more entertaining than Raw. Podcasts takes less time to consume, can be done on the go, and provide a high quality of entertainment.

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