The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

[jesterx7769]

I remember Madonna b*tching about the newspapers there showing nudity and how thats not right for her child...yet over here in US she makes a naked sex book for money...sorry just had to take a dive at Madonna, dont get many opps too

[Self]

The mild swearing does nothing for me, but the wordplay in his promo on Thursday was just my cup of tea. Pulling apart an old cliche, positioning himself as a guy who defies expectations and plays by his own rules, but keeps a strong grasp of his British roots. Took a downturn when Chelsea opened her trap, but on the whole I loved it. The highlight of Impact.

[jesterx7769]

Its a shame he isnt a main eventer and they did nothing with Chelsea wanting the ring b/c that could have been a cool storyline, the ring is kind of odd maybe her wanting something like Angles gold medal would work better.

[MattitudeV2]

The mild swearing does nothing for me, but the wordplay in his promo on Thursday was just my cup of tea. Pulling apart an old cliche, positioning himself as a guy who defies expectations and plays by his own rules, but keeps a strong grasp of his British roots. Took a downturn when Chelsea opened her trap, but on the whole I loved it. The highlight of Impact.

 

Does anyone find it odd he is supposebly dating an American Girl

[Remianen]

The very definition of a guy who went into wrestling because his 'real career' fell a little short.

 

And what was that 'real career'? He sucked balls as a D-lineman.

 

edit: Two other things that stick out to me that I've thought for awhile. The name, while TNA is getting more popular they really to get away from the "dirty" name, when i mentioned it to my girlfriend she asked me if it was porn and mentioned the tits and ass. Ignorant? Yes. But how do you expect people to react when they don't know you? I'm sure there are parents out there that would much rather have their kids watch WWE than give this new TNA thing a try. Ignorant? Yes, but once again they know WWE, they don't know TNA, and wrestling already has a bad image. I know someone will probably say "then what do you want them to be called!?" just replace the N with a W, Total Wrestling Action, TWA doesn't give off such a bad image.

 

I can't agree with this. While branding is indeed important, UNIQUE branding is even moreso. Having a name that's all your own and doesn't evoke the typical wrestling images (and the stigma that often comes with those images) is a strength, not a weakness. Ignorant people remain so until they're educated. While they make excellent fans (what's the saying about a fool and his/her money?), eventually you need to bring them around. There are people who frequent this community who think WWE is wrestling (ALL wrestling) even though "everyone" here knows that's not true.

 

Sorry, I just think that basing a branding strategy on ignorant people is a fool's errand. Ha! Get it? Fool's errand.

 

Why name a store Target (complete with a bullseye for a logo) if it doesn't sell guns primarily?

 

As in someone who struggles to break what they're initially known for. A lot of childhood stars go through it where they struggle to get meaningful work later on as they're always remembered for something they can no longer be or it makes minimal sense to be. Some try and rehash it and trot it out, but generally fail. The point is Goldberg suffers this effect. If Goldberg is involved with wrestling people automatically associate him with the streak, it would take a very good creative mind to get people's mind past that and onto something new with him.

 

Soleil Moon Frye comes to mind. Most people know her as Punky Brewster. Some people know her as the girl who had a breast reduction due to her boobs actually being so large as to give her disc issues.

 

Ah yes, the Baby Brent thing from Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs. I'm with ya. Except I don't know if the Fred Savage example fully works. He followed the path of folks like Potsie Webber and Jerry the dentist from The Bob Newhart Show. He went behind the camera. And while you and I may not know him for that as such, the people who need to know to get their shows made do.

 

Um, no cappyboy, you kinda missed the point. You can't compare Anson Williams in this respect. Try his former castmate though. Ron became more known as a director than anything else due primarily to the fact that the audience at large (read: younger people) are familiar with him primarily in that capacity. Likewise, few people remember Jerry O'Connell for what used to be his best known role ('Stand by Me'). He's known as 'Jerry O'Connell' not as 'the fat kid from Stand by Me'. Fred Savage hasn't gotten there yet. To be fair though, neither has his little brother. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he can't get there but to suggest that people remember him NOW for anything other than The Wonder Years, is a bit of a stretch. No one brings up Happy Days when Ron Howard pitches a film project. Film directors being FAR more hyped and promoted than TV directors (especially CHILDREN'S TV directors) contributes to that.

 

 

I think folks need to manage their expectations for tonight's show. Don't expect great, just expect 'halfway passable'. It'll help take the edge off the disappointment.

[brashleyholland]

Does anyone find it odd he is supposebly dating an American Girl

 

Not even slightly. If there is one thing that's guarenteed to pull an American bird, it's the good ol' English accent That's how we get your wimins

[Remianen]

Not even slightly. If there is one thing that's guarenteed to pull an American bird, it's the good ol' English accent That's how we get your wimins

 

Works both ways. An English (or even better, Australian) accent makes even a fat girl look like Giselle Brady.

[jesterx7769]

How is having a name that relates to sex unique and their own? The wrestling industry also has a bad name so I would have to say it def. evokes what people think of wrestling, its not like the name is, Family Friendly No Violence Entertainment. I would call TNA very far from a unique name "heh heh, hey butthead lets be cool and edgy and call it TNA so its like a cool/sex reference that the WWE even named a stable but it will stand for Totan Nonstop Action because we are are all about the action! Yeah Man Cross the Line!"

 

As far as basing it around ignorant people, apparentley there are so many ignorant people TNA barely exists (which is more Panda Energy than a wrestling company), and as many have said and read its questionable just how profitble they are, so how is it they dont need ignorant fans? We all make fun of the WWE demographic and how it is no longer us but they are raking in lots of dough. I'm not even saying they have to put wreslting in their name if they want to be different, call it TAA Total Awesome Action, but you how will they educate people that wont give them a chance? Go to every mall in the country telling people TNA doesnt stand for tits n ass and yes there is another wrestling company besides WWE on TV? You know there are parents out there saying

 

"TNA wrestling!? Youre not watching Tits N' Ass wrestling WWE is bad enough"

 

"but Mom! thats not what it stands for!" (As the beautiful people shake their ass on the ropes)

 

"No But's mister!"

 

That is my point. For 8 years or w/e theyve tried to be cool and let people come to their side and their ratings haven't changed much since Spike and while they have more fans they still run free shows out of Universal, at least companies like RoH are out their putting on shows and making money not relying on Daddy. I'm not saying that changing the name will make their booking better or suddenly bring in lots of money, I'm just saying how there is a laundry list of excuses people can give as to not watch TNA and not even give them a chance, which back to ratings, isn't happening.

 

As far as the Target reaon, Target's Initials arent' G.U.N.S. with their name being Great Universal New Shopping, then saying, why do parents think we sell guns?

[alden]

Works both ways. An English (or even better, Australian) accent makes even a fat girl look like Giselle Brady.

 

Hell yah! i spend a little time in in the uk in high school.....i am serious that every girl was a little bit hotter *atleast a little bit lol* just because of the accent.

 

but back on topic lol.......i am looking forward to the show tonight....although i am glad in the days of dvr i don't have to choose which one to watch. although i think i am dvring raw and watching impact. because i find my self fast forwarding raw alot more then impact lately.

[Tag01]

These camera angles are a little odd, but this crowd seems pretty hot (for TNA).

[Tag01]

The first five minutes and the big match of the evening is already over, plus a bizarre heel turn from Sting. Here we go again....

[jesterx7769]

At least Sting appeared, I was really worried it was just the match, good thing i turned back in time

[brashleyholland]

Ahhh, it's Christopher Daniels again. Good times

[jesterx7769]

Who's that? Wasn't he the guy who lost to Val Venis?

[Tag01]

That match was awesome! And yay Shannon Moore!

[brashleyholland]

Great TV bout.

 

But Moore vs Williams at Destination X? Dunno about that.

[liontamer]

why do they keep bringing back moore? I don't get it. He doesn't have much name value and the beautiful people could take him.

[brashleyholland]

That match was awesome! And yay Shannon Moore!

 

Is Moore any good? I remember him vaguely from 3-Count, but not much else.

[haloed]

Is Moore any good? I remember him vaguely from 3-Count, but not much else.

 

He's alright, but not that great. He's there mostly cuz of Jeff Hardy.

 

 

 

Edit: Although 3 count had some really good matches with the Jung Dragons in the dying days of WCW.

[liontamer]

He's alright, but not that great. He's there mostly cuz of Jeff Hardy.

 

 

 

Edit: Although 3 count had some really good matches with the Jung Dragons in the dying days of WCW.

 

 

Has Hardy done anything since returning? All I've seen him do is climb and sit on the cage when he redebuted in Jan.

[brashleyholland]

Has Hardy done anything since returning? All I've seen him do is climb and sit on the cage when he redebuted in Jan.

 

Havent seen him since I don't think.

[brashleyholland]

 

 

Edit: Although 3 count had some really good matches with the Jung Dragons in the dying days of WCW.

 

Just had a really bizzare flashback. Uncensored 2000, 3-Count vs Brian Knobs Hardcore Title match. Yuck.

[haloed]

Has Hardy done anything since returning? All I've seen him do is climb and sit on the cage when he redebuted in Jan.

 

No, but I think TNA are waiting on his Trial before featuring him on television. Which is smart considering he may be facing jail time but I'm not sure positive about the jail time. Still his association with Shannon Moore is what makes Moore an attractive talent to TNA as it helps keep Hardy happy with one of his best friends (Moore) around. Of course is depends on Hardy's drug trial.

 

 

Awesome comment from Taz about 4:20. Wonder who that could be?

[jesterx7769]

No he hasn't appeared since at that episode.

 

BTW, looks like Sting vs. RVD? That would be sweet. Worried it will be Sting vs Mick Foley or Jarrett

[Tag01]

Moore looks like a douche and doesn't have much in way of personality, but his matches are great. I like Doug Williams but there are better places for him than the X-Division.

 

And it looks like RVD vs. Sting later. Sweet.