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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zeel1" data-cite="Zeel1" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>"I'm sure the internet is burning over this!" Ha ha ha.<p> </p><p> Also, Abyss out-smarting someone feels wrong, somehow...</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You know it was well done imo. Kaz did good and Abyss heeled it out. This is just the start of a big X-Division revolution type storyline.</p>
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It's obvious now that they're building the X division back up for Destination X. I love the way they are doing it to having Bischoff destroying and insulting the entire X division until they all rise up and hopefully put the X title back on the same level as the world title. I just hope the face of the new X division is Brian Kendrick he's pure gold at anything he does.
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<p>I'll eat my words; fair to admit it. </p><p> </p><p>

I actually enjoyed what they did tonight on Impact Wrestling. When reading the spoilers, which I should never do again as it ruins things while watching the show, I came to realize that there was reasoning behind the choices. I think A) they did a great job of highlighting the X-Division; giving them something to work toward and B) Eric Bischoff's winning scenario actually made him that much more despicable as a heel. Honestly, I think they did pretty well with both; that is IF they eventually have the X-Division rebound!</p><p> </p><p>

I loved the Roode/Flair scenario too... Great stuff there!</p><p> </p><p>

Cheers.</p><p> </p><p>

<strong><em>E-V </em></strong></p>

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Look what Impact Wrestling just posted on Facebook :D

 

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e322/VenomousPrime/225212_10150189483031026_31695961025_7128403_3593983_n.jpg

 

Looks cool but doesn't mean the X-Division is going to be done the way internet fans have always wanted. They always say they are going to correct things but rarely get back on track.

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How many times for how many years have they been promising to "revive" this. On the bright side the next time they start up this great "X Division" or "Young Guys" push nobody has to bother posting about it. Just look up the posts about how excited we are and how they're on the right track. Just look those up, copy and paste. I suspect by Bound for Glory we'll all be copying and pasting.
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<p>Well I guess we gotta change the name of this thread. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

Srly, any kind of change is productive for TNA. It should be more about wrestling. Hopefully they can be a little more competitive with the big E.</p><p> </p><p>

but yeah....</p><p> </p><p>

"Wrestling matters and it matters so much that Abyss is going to win the X-Division Title, Eric Bischoff is going to pin the guy who was the last #1 Contender to that belt, we're going to have 100 promos/vignettes, Eric Young in his underwear, have the "Main Event" be a damn Handicap Match, and close out the show with 2 different in-ring promos. Yeah, TNA, wrestling matters, I can tell. " (wrestleview)</p><p> </p><p>

-> this pretty much sums it up.</p>

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<p>I tuned in to the show to check it out. I saw a ton of promos, I saw some handicap matches, I saw Eric Bischoff wrestling, I saw Abyss win the X Division title. I'm not sure what part of this was wrestling matters. </p><p> </p><p>

I know its all going to lead somewhere like it always does. The thing with this company is that wherever it leads for me atleast is worse than where it began. </p><p> </p><p>

The last time I truly enjoyed this product was exactly one year ago during Lockdown. Ken Anderson was showing he was entertaining outside of the WWE and was able to stay healthy. Pope's character was blowing up, Jay Lethal was making an argument about being the best character/story of the year. </p><p> </p><p>

A year later the only thing thats really relevant is that Ken Anderson is seemingly still a big time deal in TNA. Pope has been depushed and Lethal is unemployed. </p><p> </p><p>

I'll check back in around Bound for Glory.</p>

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<p>TNA is a joke right now, quite honestly.</p><p> </p><p>

Jeff Jarrett and Kurt Angle are probably having the most embarrassing angle in pro wrestling history; and not because of the "controversy" of it... But because it's just a bastardized version of what Heyman created with Raven and Sandman years and years behind us. And the matches between Jeff/Angle don't even have any real hate vibes or over-the-top violence that makes you think "Wow, maybe this is real."</p><p> </p><p>

Abyss sucks one week, the next week he's burying the X-Division. If having a monster that gets his teeth knocked out and continues to work reward is killing a division that people strongly want to see more of... then you really have to question what these people are doing. I think Katt Williams of stand-up fame could run this company better than Carter and company.</p><p> </p><p>

Christopher Daniels is just randomly running around. Some weeks he's great, some weeks they just book him to suck. Either give the guy a push and see if he can cut it or let him go back to Ring of Honor full time... They're always taking half of a dump with him and they can just never quite finish the product and wipe.</p><p> </p><p>

Bischoff is on TV way too much, and his charisma is NOT what it used to be. He just sounds like a rich guy who pulled one over when he's out there, and to me really seems apathetic(and why shouldn't he?) </p><p> </p><p>

And if the rumors are true and we're going to see a Ric Flair/Sting feud as the main event on TNA PPV.... Wow, just wow... Think back to the last real match they had on the very last Nitro... Talk about tarnishing a legacy of matches. Think about how bad that's going to be 10 years later.</p><p> </p><p>

I loved TNA. But now I almost think it's just a company that's around to make WWE look less horrid.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RingofHonorGuard" data-cite="RingofHonorGuard" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I loved TNA. But now I almost think it's just a company that's around to make WWE look less horrid.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Sad, but true.</p><p> </p><p> They book in a way I cannot find much logic in. And they rely too much on the old guys... now Sting is my all-time favourite wrestler, but he shouldn't be champion when he cannot go for more than max 10 min in a main event match. And he certainly shouldn't face off with Ric Flair (in fact, noone should these days).</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The promotional poster for TNA's upcoming Destination X pay-per-view event has been released and <strong>it features an image of the six-sided ring with the tagline "Forward To The Past."</strong><p> </p><p> The event takes place Sunday, July 10, 2011 at the Impact! Wrestling Zone in Orlando, Florida.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> 'Bout time. Hopefully it's not just for one event.</p>
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Guest Cleric V

Thats exciting if they bring back the octagon ring...

I was going over some older moments on dvd, and its sad when some great moments would happen in TNA but it wouldn't amount to anything later on. When you would skip ahead a couple months, it will be totally on a different path and the momentum would be lost. that always gets me.

I was watching the Cross the line vol. 3 pack (Turning Point 09, Final Resolution 09, Against the Odds 10) and to look further in the future, certain wrestlers are jumping all over the place. Thank god we got to see two events with Desmond Wolfe and Kurt Angle before sending Desmond down the card, When you look back, will you remember their feud at all?

(just one example)

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Let me first preface this by saying that I like TNA....

 

but...

 

I love how their new thing is "Wrestling Matters" but yet, if you watch the videos from Impact Wrestling, on their own youtube site, each match is only 2-3 minutes in length; and typically start far into the action already.

 

While a small detail, it shows that, maybe, the new marketing phrase, as we would expect, is only utilize in which to hit the WWE in the side.

 

How about put it into practice...

 

Cheers.

 

E-V

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I agree with you EV, wrestling doesn't matter but people sure beleved it, reading by some comments on the web, Hulk Hogan and Bisch are running it, when has wrestling ever atter to them :(

 

In other news, Mick Foley has requested his release :( Right move for him though IMO, Anonymous GM lol :D Do it WWE, it may not make sense and may e crap for continuity but I want Mick back, do it, I would watch RAW regularly if this happened :D. They did mention his book on RAW, that was the GM's idea, it must be him! Wow, I'm talking crap. Anyway...

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The "wrestling matters" tag is just marketing bullsh!t from TNA. They have talked like this at various times since Hogan & Bischoff took over and it has yet to actually hold true. Quite honestly, if they could hold true to that, it would be enough for me to watch Impact. I could put up with all the booking issues that TNA has if they would just let their talent shine through...
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I think the name change is just for them to stop making a fool out of themselves. "Total nonstop action" while there is little or none to be found. It was a bit comical.

 

Talk about comical: if you need a laugh, just check out the videos on their site, where some of their talent talk about "why wrestling matters".

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For the first time in awhile, I watched Impact tonight. In the opening segment, Hogan talked about "wrestling matters". The first match was a Knockouts tag and Angelina was in zombie mode. Posessed, apparently. Yup, wrestling matters TNA. Same old crap.

 

Hah. It reminds me of when I read this: 5/12 iMPACT!, Foley says wrestling matters again.

 

They then follow it up with an Abyss vs. Crimson vs. Samoa Joe match that results in Crimson winning in 2:29.

 

Yeah.

 

Way to reinforce what you say, TNA.

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I honestly don't understand why anyone in their right mind would put Eric Bischoff in charge of their program in any way, shape, or form. I have never understood what made Bischoff so special other than two brilliant storylines (that he ended up ruining in the end btw, the nWo, and Hogan/Sting).

 

I try to look at the positive sides of wrestling as much as possible, but TNA has no positives at all that I can point out to you. They have horrible storylines, good workers buried in short/idiotic gimmick matches, they killed the X-Divison, and they have three guys running the show who just don't know how to put on an entertaining wrestling program in this day and age, Bischoff, Hogan, and Russo.

 

The WWE without a doubt has a ton of flaws today, but I would rather watch an hour long episode of Superstars than a TNA pay-per-view. I just don't understand how TNA manages to be so... bad with the talent they have.

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