PhenomenalPat Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 From SHINE Wrestling's official FaceBook Page: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XxXTfxK5eEA/UuWtQEfVtpI/AAAAAAAAA5A/GpDGdavnUNw/s1600/Santana.png Santana is a damn fine pick up for TNA. Add the fact that Shanna has announced she'll atleast be part of the U.K. tour and it looks like we are getting some new blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackman Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 If Styles is gone, the promotion might see some hard days. Sure, he wasn't all that, but he was one of the early mainstays. That has a lot of value in an entertainment promotion. Could've changed his name, though. AJ Styles looks like it was made up by a 10 year old. And it probably was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappyboy Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Stennick" data-cite="Stennick" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> </p><p> I do like that they are pushing new talent, I also like Ethan Carter I think he's got a great look, he's very comfortable on the mic and he's held his own against some of the biggest stars TNA has. For a guy that hasn't been in the "big time" (if TNA is the big time) thats a big deal. I'm not impressed with Magnus but atleast he's something new. The X division is a bit sad that we have Chris Sabin back in the X Division. He's been in that division for 12 years now off and on and Austin Aries who is a former long reigning world champion. I'm baffled on why they would bring a 40+ MVP who hasn't worked in the United States on going on a half a decade. So yeah some good some bad but come on after 12 years we are still doing "omgz who's in charge of TNA and faction warz" atleast give us something new to complain about <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Tend to agree with a lot of this. Peeking in the thread here from time to time I've seen how prevalent the stable wars are and some of the why and wherefores around those past battles did annoy me and make me glad I wasn't watching first hand at those times. I'll be honest. If I weren't just peeking back in after a long layoff, I probably wouldn't have much interest in this latest storyline either. But since I'm just getting my feet wet again and getting regrounded in the current TNA landscape I'm willing to roll with it because it will help me get there quicker. They've just wrapped stuff up or at least appeared to and are starting new material. So I feel like I'm getting in at a good time.</p><p> </p><p> Ethan Carter I'm definitely with you on. The guy may have the power of nepotism on his side. But like Jeff Jarrett or the Von Erichs before him, it looks like he has enough legit talent that it's reasonable that he has the role he does. If one were a mark and only followed TNA, one could easily suggest they wouldn't hire him purely for nepotism and avoid sounding stupid for believing that. I look forward to seeing more EC3 and seeing if that first impression holds.</p><p> </p><p> I also think I'm with you on Magnus. When I've watched TNA consistently in the past, he was always an also-ran. He was good and all but he never struck me as a guy who should have the top belt. Of course, I've also never really believed in James Storm as a single and had to remind myself "seniority" when he was vying for number 1 contender. So maybe I'm overly critical of their talent at times.</p><p> </p><p> Sabin and Aries in the X division felt comfortable so I had no complaints there. But I have heard about both men's title reigns and peeked in briefly during Aries' run. So I can also certainly see the point in being disappointed that they are "slumming." But Shelley always felt like the personality of the team. Seeing Sabin get the love and until last week Velvet as he has feels wrong to me. Although I will say my gut reaction to him being X division champ was "Hey, could be worse. Could be Kazarian." So glad they have Kazarian somewhat hidden in a tag team with the superior Christopher Daniels. </p><p> </p><p> And MVP? I've always liked the guy when I've seen him. So if TNA picks him up, I'll be happy to see him on my TV again. It does feel like he could be a bit wedged in based on the mental image the last couple weeks have created of the TNA landscape. But that sense could change depending on how the investor storyline shakes out.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mammoth Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cappyboy" data-cite="cappyboy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Ethan Carter I'm definitely with you on. The guy may have the power of nepotism on his side. But like Jeff Jarrett or the Von Erichs before him, it looks like he has enough legit talent that it's reasonable that he has the role he does. If one were a mark and only followed TNA, one could easily suggest they wouldn't hire him purely for nepotism and avoid sounding stupid for believing that. I look forward to seeing more EC3 and seeing if that first impression holds.</div></blockquote><p> Who's he related to? He's not really the nephew of Dixie Carter, he's "Man-Tastic" Derrick Bateman from NXT. I liked him in his NXT run so I'm happy he's getting some spotlight over at TNA.</p><p> </p><p> To be honest, my problem with TNA at the moment is the very thing that made 'em; the X Division. It's lost all meaning and once you start pushing guys like Chris Sabin and Austin Aries into World Championship contention and then dropping them back into the X Division, it just doesn't work. I think they're heading in the right direction now but it's just a question of whether they can get to where they're going quick enough to save themselves as far as I'm concerned.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappyboy Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Mammoth" data-cite="Mammoth" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Who's he related to? He's not really the nephew of Dixie Carter, he's "Man-Tastic" Derrick Bateman from NXT. I liked him in his NXT run so I'm happy he's getting some spotlight over at TNA.<p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> And you're just shown how far out of the loop I am. I've never seen a single episode of NXT. It's just too forgettable. And when I have nibbled at WWE in recent times, they haven't been able to get me to sit still for a full episode. Even though I'd really like to. So I had no reason to not take the gimmick at its word.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stennick Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 <p>TNA Investor was revealed in Glascow. Spoiler below.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#FFFFFF;">It was MVP, he came out in a suit with the Wolves or whatever they were called. No Jarrett, no Jarrett, Styles, Sting leading some sort of revultion. Just some regular wrestler while TNA does another clashing authorities angle. Never change TNA, never chang. </span></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNAfan123 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Not bad, interested to see where they take this. You say it wasn't the three guys you named but if it was it would have been "Oh TNA always brings back the same people, we want something new, blah blah blah." TNA can't win with some people I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stennick Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Its not that at all because if they would have brought in those guys then that means they didn't really leave so they aren't bringing them back. You're interested to see how it goes? So then you're interested to see how they run their clashing authority angle? You know since they haven't ran one since oh wait Aces and 8's? Or are you interested in seeing faction vs. faction for control of TNA that we haven't seen since.....Aces and 8's? So yeah its been a month and 3/4's since they ran this angle. You're right shame on me for saying TNA can't win when they're running fresh angles like this. I apologize for being overly harsh to TNA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delv213 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Why does TNA keep giving out their money to pay guys who don't draw? MVP was a glorified midcarder who's best period in his career was feuding with Chris Benoit nearly 7 years ago. You can't tell me that any American fan's perception of him is going to change because he had success in NJPW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhenomenalPat Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Its not that at all because if they would have brought in those guys then that means they didn't really leave so they aren't bringing them back. You're interested to see how it goes? So then you're interested to see how they run their clashing authority angle? You know since they haven't ran one since oh wait Aces and 8's? Or are you interested in seeing faction vs. faction for control of TNA that we haven't seen since.....Aces and 8's? So yeah its been a month and 3/4's since they ran this angle. You're right shame on me for saying TNA can't win when they're running fresh angles like this. I apologize for being overly harsh to TNA. I'll take a new take on an old angle that involves new talent, like EC3, Magnus, Wolves, Spud and the other talent on the way. (Shanna, Noar, Santana Garrett etc). Rather that than old storylines involving OLD talent like WWE is offering. Orton vs Batista...didn't care 6 years ago...don't care now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I'm not crazy about the "mystery investor" but I mean, what was to be expected? I was thinking it would be something lame like Tito or Rampage or something. I do like that TNA is aiming in a direction with younger talent and using their own guys as the established talent. They would do well to get AJ back though ASAP. Pay him what he's worth and bring him in. He means nothing to WWE but for TNA he's their ace-in-the-hole. Guy always produced solid matches, solid promos, and the right crowd reactions. He got heel heat when needed and babyface love when asked. I thought the build with him against Aces n Eights was pretty damn awesome. If TNA needs anything to grow moving forward, a little consistency would be at the top of the list in my opinion and to me AJ isn't the most dynamic and charismatic guy in the business but he IS very consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Self Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 You say "pay AJ what he's worth" but I hear that's the problem. The revenue AJ brings in, the actual monetary figure gained for having him on the roster, isnt all that much. Though little fault of his own, he doesn't sell a massive amount of tickets and merchandise and his name means nothing to advertisers. Dont get me wrong, TNA would make more money with him on the roster, but it would cost them more than that to pay AJ the good living he deserves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Roguey Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Back from the tapings. They were....underwhelming. Partially because the group I was got moved from tiered seating to the floor (the only section to have been moved! ) and so didn't see much and partially because two tapings burns out the crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSelfDestruct Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MichiganHero" data-cite="MichiganHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Back from the tapings.<p> </p><p> They were....underwhelming. Partially because the group I was got moved from tiered seating to the floor (the only section to have been moved! <img alt=":mad:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/mad.png.69834f23b9a8bf290d98375f56f1c794.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />) and so didn't see much and partially because two tapings burns out the crowd.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> you're complaining about seeing two shows for the price of one? shame on you.. lol</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Roguey Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="petecrimson00" data-cite="petecrimson00" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>you're complaining about seeing two shows for the price of one? shame on you.. lol</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The second show was full on long and awkward pauses. And seeing the same three or four guys got boring quick.</p><p> </p><p> All in all, it wasn't bad but at the same time it just wasn't good. It was ok.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stennick Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 That combined with them having technical issues with audio and video and that causing delays must have made things a tad less enjoyable. How did everyone react to the investor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSelfDestruct Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MichiganHero" data-cite="MichiganHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The second show was full on long and awkward pauses. And seeing the same three or four guys got boring quick.<p> </p><p> All in all, it wasn't bad but at the same time it just wasn't good. It was ok.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I mean to be fair, TNA can't keep my interest for one show, so I see your point. </p><p> </p><p> Saw a live event for them, which wasnt cheap btw, and the biggest star on the show, Mr. Anderson. No AJ, no Angle, no Daniels. RVD was the highlight of the show and he about killed himself going for rolling thunder somehow</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Roguey Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="petecrimson00" data-cite="petecrimson00" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I mean to be fair, TNA can't keep my interest for one show, so I see your point. <p> </p><p> Saw a live event for them, which wasnt cheap btw, and the biggest star on the show, Mr. Anderson. No AJ, no Angle, no Daniels. RVD was the highlight of the show and he about killed himself going for rolling thunder somehow</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> We got Daniels & Kazarian and the usuals.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I'm back home from the tapings too. I realy enjoyed it, but we were in a section on the floor that was pretty vocal. Won't post spoilers until at least the weekend, but it was good fun. I'm enjoying TNA creatively just now... they've got a lot of new blood going on, lots of new personalities and they've ditched most of the old veteran talent that wasn't doing very much. For the first time in a while there are people I want to see more of like EC3, Spud (his mannerisms are awesome), Magnus, Gunner, the Wolves, the new investor and the BroMans. There are parts of the show I don't like, there are parts I love... and in general, I'm looking forward to seeing more TNA in future. Certainly a lot more than I am the WWE, which hasn't been a regular part of my viewing since they seemed to want to commit career genocide on any character I liked NOT called Daniel Bryan. So yeah, TNA is fun. A few nasty technical difficulties with the video screen that will probably go un-noticed on TV but held up the show a bit but that's always a problem with live shows. The second show taping was cut a bit short because of that I think, so we didn't get much in the way of vignettes for that. Which is fine, cos I was happy to see the wrestling anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSelfDestruct Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MichiganHero" data-cite="MichiganHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>We got Daniels & Kazarian and the usuals.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I ws just so mad, I went to see TNA, I expect to see some TNA Originals, not ex-WWE talent and very green new TNA talent.</p><p> </p><p> The only two I was truly excited to see were Kid Kash and RVD, whom are old favorites from ECW.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I'm reading a review... Why was there a USA chant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stennick Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Our President has excellent foreign policy and after 5 years in office he's rehabbed our image around the globe? <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwt13 Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 <p>Great show btw and I love that MVP is the investor, it plays with the "Highest paid smackdown wrestler" gimmick he had in WWE, so he saved his money well I guess haha. </p><p> </p><p> I never watch indy wrestling so this is the first time I have seen The Wolves and I have always heard "Oh they can wrestle but they're boring." But from what I have seen the last three weeks they have a great gimmick/charisma to them.</p><p> </p><p> I also love Samuel Shaw, he's gimmick is just chilling, Overall TNA has been great lately best wrestling for either company in a while imo.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Yeah, Samuel Shaw's American Psycho knockoff gimmick is amazing. He pulls it off really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrows Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 <p>"You know what MVP being the investor tells me?</p><p> </p><p> It tells me that a mid-carder in WWE makes enough money to buy half of TNA."</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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