The Shape Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 "Cage fighting" is getting the most coverage in UK media I've seen since the story about kids in a gym as a result of a former one day cricket captain giving it a go at age 40, apparently he lost the first round big and came back to draw the fight and may now give it up as his wife didn't like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoutureLegend Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 "Cage fighting" is getting the most coverage in UK media I've seen since the story about kids in a gym as a result of a former one day cricket captain giving it a go at age 40, apparently he lost the first round big and came back to draw the fight and may now give it up as his wife didn't like it. The sport won't go anywhere in the UK until the media start to appreciate & respect the sport. It really REALLY bothers me when i see the uneducated media calling the sport "cage fighting".. Just that term alone gives the sport a terrible reputation when in reality these are some of the finest athletes in any sport period! I would love anyone who talks down about MMA or thinks it's "barbaric" to go watch someone like Georges St. Pierre train for his fights.. They would instantly develop a whole new level of respect for the sport & the fighters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoutureLegend Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Dominick Cruz out potentially 10-15 months with torn ACL Was really looking forward to that fight as well.. Hope he feels fast as he's an amazing fighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda11 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Dominick Cruz out potentially 10-15 months with torn ACL Was really looking forward to that fight as well.. Hope he feels fast as he's an amazing fighter. Horrible news. I love to watch Cruz just because of his footwork. I hope he comes back the same fighter. I'd hate to see him lose a step even though we would hardly notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makhai Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 The sport won't go anywhere in the UK until the media start to appreciate & respect the sport. It really REALLY bothers me when i see the uneducated media calling the sport "cage fighting".. Just that term alone gives the sport a terrible reputation when in reality these are some of the finest athletes in any sport period! I would love anyone who talks down about MMA or thinks it's "barbaric" to go watch someone like Georges St. Pierre train for his fights.. They would instantly develop a whole new level of respect for the sport & the fighters. Well, it is fighting in a cage... So the name doesn't bother me so much. The painful lack of any research, or just general integrity is what's despicable. And this is one of the birthplaces of Catch-As-Catch-Can-Wrestling... Just whole way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantabulous Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I wouldn't mind the media calling MMA 'Cage Fighting' if they started calling Boxing 'Ring Fighting'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makhai Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I wouldn't mind the media calling MMA 'Cage Fighting' if they started calling Boxing 'Ring Fighting'. Because every other combat sport is in a ring, that doesn't really apply. Kickboxing, Boxing, Pro Wrestling, etc all rings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda11 Posted May 8, 2012 Share Posted May 8, 2012 I am from America so my opinion doesn't mean much but I would prefer the media to call MMA cagefighting rather than call it UFCing, human cockfighting, or bloodsport. After all these guys are fighting, in a cage. Maybe I am missing the point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoutureLegend Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I am from America so my opinion doesn't mean much but I would prefer the media to call MMA cagefighting rather than call it UFCing, human cockfighting, or bloodsport. After all these guys are fighting, in a cage. Maybe I am missing the point? The problem i have is not with the term itself as such, but more with the way it portrays the sport of MMA. The term "cagefighting" immediately gives MMA a terrible reputation with people who don't know anything about it. It's like the whole outcry about the kids who were grappling inside a cage.. It was absolutely blowing out of proportion, but because they were in a cage it was portrayed as brutal & barbaric. It's like Makhai said, the media here have never bothered to research what the sport is all about. It's easy to draw conclusions from seeing it for the first time but if some of the sports detractors actually understood the values of what Martial Arts was raised upon then the sport might just break through to the next level. It's not even just here in the UK, As the New York MMA bill is dead for another year, which is just incredible when you think of how many states regulate the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Forget about New York a while. It's not going to happen as long as the Old Timers are there and are too connected to Old School Boxing Promoters and Old School Unions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 The term "cagefighting" immediately gives MMA a terrible reputation with people who don't know anything about it. Have to agree here. When I hear "cagefighting" I'm thinking Wolverine in X-Men 1 smoking a cigar in his corner and all that crazy action movie junk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shape Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 Plus then you naturally get the people involved being called "cage fighters," which is worse than just fighters and obviously than mixed martial artists, adds to the stigmatisation (or is just a product of it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantabulous Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 You still can't have MMA live in New York but you can now watch child porn in New York and it's legal. Watching Child Porn is legal in New York Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damonster Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 You still can't have MMA live in New York but you can now watch child porn in New York and it's legal. Watching Child Porn is legal in New York only in america. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makhai Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 only in america. And Japan.... and Czech Republic, and Southern Asia... Amung other places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 The problem i have is not with the term itself as such, but more with the way it portrays the sport of MMA. The term "cagefighting" immediately gives MMA a terrible reputation with people who don't know anything about it. It's like the whole outcry about the kids who were grappling inside a cage.. It was absolutely blowing out of proportion, but because they were in a cage it was portrayed as brutal & barbaric. It's like Makhai said, the media here have never bothered to research what the sport is all about. It's easy to draw conclusions from seeing it for the first time but if some of the sports detractors actually understood the values of what Martial Arts was raised upon then the sport might just break through to the next level. The mainstream media had a field day with the 'kids cage fight' label, but when you get down to the brass tacks of it - they had a point. Those kids should never have been in a cage, in a working men's club, while booze was being sold. If a kid is doing anything other than a solo demo, or hitting pads with his coach, he should be doing so at an inter-club in a gym. Peeps in the MMA industry leapt to the defence of the sport when all that went off...but I know for a fact that the guy who put that show on got...shall we say...a very stern talking to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 I wouldn't mind the media calling MMA 'Cage Fighting' if they started calling Boxing 'Ring Fighting'. I'm a big fan of Ice Puck-Hitting myself, and I do enjoy the odd game of Grass Ball-Kicking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damonster Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 I'm a big fan of Ice Puck-Hitting myself, and I do enjoy the odd game of Grass Ball-Kicking really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoutureLegend Posted May 9, 2012 Share Posted May 9, 2012 The mainstream media had a field day with the 'kids cage fight' label, but when you get down to the brass tacks of it - they had a point. Those kids should never have been in a cage, in a working men's club, while booze was being sold. If a kid is doing anything other than a solo demo, or hitting pads with his coach, he should be doing so at an inter-club in a gym. Peeps in the MMA industry leapt to the defence of the sport when all that went off...but I know for a fact that the guy who put that show on got...shall we say...a very stern talking to. Whilst i agree that the whole enviroment in which it took place was wrong & should never have been allowed to happen, but the media were completely wrong in the way they wrote the story as there was no 'fighting' involved at all, they were grappling & the kid who was apparently crying wasn't upset because he got hurt, he was upset because he lost. There was definitely a story to be made out of the whole thing because like you said there was alot of things that should never have been allowed to happen, however the media went down the wrong road with the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 Whilst i agree that the whole enviroment in which it took place was wrong & should never have been allowed to happen, but the media were completely wrong in the way they wrote the story as there was no 'fighting' involved at all, That's a matter of opinion though. Many would argue that an activity where choking and joint manipulation is allowed would be considered fighting. the kid who was apparently crying wasn't upset because he got hurt, he was upset because he lost. So says his idiot Dad, who also got a telling-off I believe. You are right though - some sections of the media went to within a whisker of implying that the kids were engaged in some kind of bare-knuckle fist fight. Not that I expect anything less from the UK press. Sometimes I wonder why people here are so eager for mainstream media to cover the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted May 9, 2012 Author Share Posted May 9, 2012 really? Not followed it for a good few years now - but I still enjoy watching a game when I get the chance. Used to play a bit when I was about 13. Went to see Manchester Storm nearly every week. Dale Jago was my hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damonster Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Not followed it for a good few years now - but I still enjoy watching a game when I get the chance. Used to play a bit when I was about 13. Went to see Manchester Storm nearly every week. Dale Jago was my hero. Hockey is imo the best sport out their, but then i am canadian and we are raised by hockey night in canada. IMO a good hockey game is better then a good mma card, heck the pens/flyers series this year was better then all of the mma cards last year, which was one heck of a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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justtxyank Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Mo Lawal just signed with Bellator. He's also signed a deal with TNA and will work as a crossover performer, appearing with TNA beginning in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makhai Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Mo Lawal just signed with Bellator. He's also signed a deal with TNA and will work as a crossover performer, appearing with TNA beginning in the summer. He's got legit amateur wrestling chops... could run a solid R-Truth/Next-Big-Thing mash-up gimmick. Going to have to work hard to put together a pro wrestling move-set if they have plans for him to be anything in-ring. For Viacom and Bellator it's good synergy with impending Spike move. For TNA, considering current financial realities, it's not like they can say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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