SWF In 2013

[Eidenhoek]

<p>Going to pair up Rich Money with Amy Galaxy as kayfabe siblings.</p><p> </p><p>

One of the more fun (but tedious, god, if I don't have things memorized) things is finding fake siblings and such in the game.</p><p> </p><p>

Anyone gotten Frehley vs. Remo to A-rank?</p>

[Purple Cowboy]

<p>Finally creeping to the end of 2013 and I have lots of decisions to make. </p><p> </p><p>

Since I own SWF, tried ending the war with TCW early in the year. They continued to decline. I tried to sign Wolf Hawkins from them and failed. Since they wouldn't end the war, over the course of the next few months I feel I hit them pretty hard by stealing Joey Minnesota, Koshiro Ino, and Troy Tornado who are now making up the Two Cents Worth stable. They are kind of obnoxious faces to start (always pipping one another with "now for my two cents worth" during interview segments), but over the next six months are going to become increasingly agitated at the perceived lack of respect from their new SWF colleagues and we'll go from there.</p><p> </p><p>

I now have a chance to sign Sean McFly. NOTBPW are on the rise with all of those ex-wrestlers of the year in their company and taking McFly could really hurt them. The one concession I had to make to even speak with him was to finally lower risque to Medium. I was thinking of bringing him in and having his arrival signal a new, more PG-friendly SWF that everyone already inside the company will hate. But, it looks like the wages need to be around $90k per month. It would also mean a fast-declining Christian Faith (who despite my efforts can't generate momentum) getting a huge raise for the next five months because he has wage matching in his contract. I'd likely also have to give McFly creative control in order to lure him away. </p><p> </p><p>

I think after the January PPV I'm also going to do a big "future endeavor" period and clear out some roster bloat. I can't take those guys who agree Developmental deals and then start complaining about being in developmental straight away. Kurt Laramee is certainly on his way out as his half-hearted singles push never gained any steam. I brought in the American Cobras and they both tested positive for steroids within the first month! Hollywood Bret Starr has been a pain, but is now Lobster Warrior's protege so I might hang on to him for a bit. The Midnight Prowler is certainly on the chopping block (although Rich Money is mentoring him). And since I already let Jerry Eisen's contract expire in August, it might be time to clear out Eric & Richard as well.</p>

[Eisen-verse]

<p>Have you noticed whether or not an 'SE Style Finish' has worked in your main event matches? I believe I've only used it once but it seemed like the overall score of the match was rather low. </p><p> </p><p>

I'm thinking of using the outcome in a coming episode down the line and didn't want to sink a potential outcome because of it.</p><p> </p><p>

Thank you!</p>

[Teh_Showtime]

I am pretty sure the one time I used it the fans were against that type of finish (as specified in the dirt sheet)

[gord]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eisen-verse" data-cite="Eisen-verse" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Have you noticed whether or not an 'SE Style Finish' has worked in your main event matches? I believe I've only used it once but it seemed like the overall score of the match was rather low. <p> </p><p> I'm thinking of using the outcome in a coming episode down the line and didn't want to sink a potential outcome because of it.</p><p> </p><p> Thank you!</p></div></blockquote><p> I have gotten the same note as well and got a much lower grade too.</p>

[Purple Cowboy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eisen-verse" data-cite="Eisen-verse" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Have you noticed whether or not an 'SE Style Finish' has worked in your main event matches? I believe I've only used it once but it seemed like the overall score of the match was rather low. <p> </p><p> I'm thinking of using the outcome in a coming episode down the line and didn't want to sink a potential outcome because of it.</p><p> </p><p> Thank you!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've tried it twice in the Main Event spot in a year on Supreme TV: </p><p> </p><p> 80 with Bruce & Lobby vs. Remo & Rich Money. This was the first one I tried early in the year. Didn't really kill the episode but wasn't the sort of grade I was expecting. I figured with all that talent in the ring on TV fans had to know there wouldn't be a finish. </p><p> </p><p> 72 match score for a 6-man main event with Bruce, Lobby & Faith against Marat, Vengeance & Brandon James. The episode bombed. </p><p> </p><p> I'm sure I used it a couple of other times with moderate success on the undercard. Afraid to try again unless I get the two workers extremely over.</p>

[Bull]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eisen-verse" data-cite="Eisen-verse" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Has anyone attempted to book Runaway Train in a match since becoming retired? I don't have the game in front of me now; however, believe that his stats were not 'terrible' enough to keep him out of the ring. Not necessarily a full-time schedule but maybe one...two... matches a year? More or less, seeing if anyone has and how it turned out grade-wise. <p> </p><p> He still has a "B-" state of overness in the game; so, at least from that standpoint, he could draw slightly.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've not had any problems doing it with Larry Vessey in NYCW. I just wait until the day of the show, change his push to main eventer so as not to get an overused note, and book him in a match and just use Steve Flash as the road agent for it lol. He still has good psychology so I use him to help bring up the stat in my younger guys without having to hire somebody else to do so. </p><p> </p><p> And if I remember correctly he only gets dinged for physical condition and not time decline since he is already retired, although I can't guarantee the validity of that until I book another show.<img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[The Shape]

Just started my first 13 game with SWF. The main immediate problem is how much more Bruce is over than everyone in the title feud...I'm tempted to use him in the Cena style, main eventing no matter who he's facing. Had Lobster Warrior join him and Valiant to fight the Chasers but then turn on them and join up with Emma, and I'm fairly sure Bruce vs. heel Chris Morrison (now with A* momentum after his turn) is going to hugely outscore anything involving Steve Frehley.

[Bigpapa42]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Shape" data-cite="The Shape" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Just started my first 13 game with SWF. The main immediate problem is how much more Bruce is over than everyone in the title feud...I'm tempted to use him in the Cena style, main eventing no matter who he's facing. Had Lobster Warrior join him and Valiant to fight the Chasers but then turn on them and join up with Emma, and I'm fairly sure Bruce vs. heel Chris Morrison (now with A* momentum after his turn) is going to hugely outscore anything involving Steve Frehley.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It likely will. But remember, you don't need constant A main events to do well with the SWF. Frehley can consistently grab B or B+, which should not result in anything lower than a good B show grade if you have strong angles and a decent main event. I find Frehley tends to pull strong grades in most angles so he's more than workable as a champ and top guy.</p>

[The Shape]

Are B's enough? Was pulling them consistently before dropping to cult just as my trial ended. Now I have to buy it to put things right <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Admittedly WHFO did bomb with a B-...

[Bigpapa42]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Shape" data-cite="The Shape" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Are B's enough? Was pulling them consistently before dropping to cult just as my trial ended. Now I have to buy it to put things right <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Admittedly WHFO did bomb with a B-...</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> B grades should maintain. You won't see growth (or as much, anyway) as if you are hitting B+ or better all the time. But staying above B- should not see you slide backward. Interesting that you dropped to Cult off of one below-par show. Did you lose the National battle, perhaps? </p><p> </p><p> And don't get me wrong - guys like Frehley, Vengeance, and even Remo do need some protecting. Throw Frehley against Vengeance in a 30 minute PPV main event and you are asking for trouble. But careful booking, strong angles, and you can do perfectly fine with them. I don't blame anyone who wants to move the belt onto someone stronger in the ring, mega-push Gilmore to the top etc. But its necessary, per se. Although it was admittedly a partly sandbox game, I've been able to book fairly consistent B+ or better shows for the first couple of months by focusing heavily on angles, using the talented upper midcard guys to pull good TV main events against main eventers, and basically keeping the lower card off TV.</p>

[The Shape]

<p>Ah yes I lost the national battle. To which I hadn't paid any attention as I wasn't really aware of it, haha. TCW pulled straight Bs which makes sense, though no idea how I came behind USPW as they were B-/C+ to my B/B- in general. Ah just saw they got a B at the start that must have topped all mine, will pay more attention next time!</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

I'm not a huge Gilmore fan as far as pushes are concerned, although Lobster w/Chase I'd be keen to run with (although now I read more of this thread, I'm liking the idea of keeping the Warrior around, and maybe trying him as a Comic Book Villain <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> ). It's just Frehley being a long way behind Bruce that needs some time to fix.</p>

[Bigpapa42]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Shape" data-cite="The Shape" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Ah yes I lost the national battle. To which I hadn't paid any attention as I wasn't really aware of it, haha. TCW pulled straight Bs which makes sense, though no idea how I came behind USPW as they were B-/C+ to my B/B- in general. Ah just saw they got a B at the start that must have topped all mine, will pay more attention next time!<p> </p><p> I'm not a huge Gilmore fan as far as pushes are concerned, although Lobster w/Chase I'd be keen to run with (although now I read more of this thread, I'm liking the idea of keeping the Warrior around, and maybe trying him as a Comic Book Villain <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> ). It's just Frehley being a long way behind Bruce that needs some time to fix.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm a big proponent of keeping Lobster Warrior under the gimmick. Never blame someone for demasking him but I feel like the character has so much potential to do different directions. I've never taken him heel, though, and that's a fun thought. </p><p> </p><p> Bruce has basically become the new Faith when it comes to match grades. He will deliver better than almost anyone else unless you get the popularity up on someone like Rich Money or Angry Gilmore. </p><p> </p><p> An aspect I love about both Frehley and Remo - beyond the characterizations - is that both tend to improve. They are relatively young and have high Star Quality. If you do some focused development - find them skilled semi-regular tag partners or designated jobbers - they can end up quite good before too long.</p>

[Grfcboy95]

there's something about Angry Gilmore that means he never gets pushed with me. he'd be a ratings monster with the popularity but i end up never making him a bona fide Main eventer. I'm pushing Roger Cage and Mainstream Hernandez as my two young guys at the moment. I agree about Remo and Frehley even, but Remo still goes a lot further for me. Frehley heel is a lot more interesting than when he's face. i have to admit, the recent double turn of Del Rio and Ziggler in WWE has got me interested in doing something similar with SWF. I was thinking maybe Faith turns heel on Eric Eisen, maybe involving Richard as well, turning on his own Son and giving Faith some Kayfabe power...

[Self]

<p>I just demasked and turned Lobster Warrior AND gave Angry Gilmore the top belt. Creatively, I'm very disappointed in myself. For Lobster it's a last-ditch effort to use the guy. As much as I'd love to watch the gimmick, I can't book it consistently. He's now Ian Morissette (I have too many names beginning with "C") doing serious things in a serious fashion. He'll bring tradition and seriousness to the North American Title, until he sees the error of his ways. It's a character I'd hate, so getting into it.</p><p> </p><p>

Gilmore just seems too easy to make champion, right? There's nothing wrong with him. No flaw. No downside. Alas, I was bored with heel Jack Bruce on top, and he was the only popular babyface not played out. Struggling for story ideas for him. He's got good grades with Bruce, Rich Money and Remo, but that's not what floats my boat. </p><p> </p><p>

What is floating it is Emma Chase. I decided that she lost her manager's license when I ended her Agency, so the only way she could stay in the mix was to be (picture her disgust in saying this) someone's girlfriend. So she chose 4 upper midcarders and started awkwardly hitting on them, leading to a big match over her (motivations of the participants did vary, to be fair) that Valiant eventually won. Heel vampire as he is, I didn't dig the pairing. Luckily, Zimmy Bumfhole returned from vacation, and he embarked on a semi-genuine quest to nail a cougar. Which led him to defeat Valiant, win Emma's heart, and turn the relationship into something almost real. Over several months, she legitimately helped Zimmy advance as a singles wrestler. I came very close to Emma turning face, but instead pulled the trigger on Zimmy. Instead of turning on Randy, he turned on their manager Christian Faith, leading to a big injury angle, followed by Zimmy winning the Welcome To The Jungle rumble, earning my Money in the Bank ripoff contract. I'm not going to do Zimmy vs Randy. Not for a loooooong time. Since getting into CGC, I like the idea of brothers being really reluctant to fight. Blood is thicker than disposition. Even if Zimmy is using Randy to help him at times, they're still brothers. </p><p> </p><p>

I can't wait for Zimmy to take Gilmore's title. Creatively works for me so much better.</p>

[Eisen-verse]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Self" data-cite="Self" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I just demasked and turned Lobster Warrior AND gave Angry Gilmore the top belt. Creatively, I'm very disappointed in myself. For Lobster it's a last-ditch effort to use the guy. As much as I'd love to watch the gimmick, I can't book it consistently. He's now Ian Morissette (I have too many names beginning with "C") doing serious things in a serious fashion. He'll bring tradition and seriousness to the North American Title, until he sees the error of his ways. It's a character I'd hate, so getting into it</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;">Taking the mask off of Lobbie as a last ditch effort is far more commendable than if you instantly took it off of him (at least I would think). I love the Lobbie character. However, I can love it because I don't ever plan on having him hold the world title. He's 40 now. He hasn't won the belt. I don't see any reason to put him there if he hasn't won it already. That said, he's an amazing change of pace in my attitude-esque SWF. Plus, as we'll see coming up, he's now in the process of helping build new stars.</div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> The fact that you didn't just give up still shows creativity. You tried to find a way to maximize one of the more popular undercard workers in the company.... AND you did so not in a knee jerk reaction but over time. </div><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Self" data-cite="Self" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Gilmore just seems too easy to make champion, right? There's nothing wrong with him. No flaw. No downside. Alas, I was bored with heel Jack Bruce on top, and he was the only popular babyface not played out. Struggling for story ideas for him. He's got good grades with Bruce, Rich Money and Remo, but that's not what floats my boat.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;">If you get his grades up then yea he's easy to book there. In reality, purely from an entertainment aspect, Gilmore isn't really World Title material. I think he sits at around a '78' with star quality. To me, that screams of a transitional champ from a more entertainment-based wrestling company. So, that said, if you can book him strong, despite his less than stellar star quality skills, and create good grades/storylines with him, then you're doing a great job as a booker.</div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> Is it easier to put him there than Captain Atomic? (At least from the start). Yea. Totally. That said, I wouldn't sell yourself short.</div><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> <strong>Now onto a question I have for fellow SWF bookers...</strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;">Would you change Emma Chase's gimmick if it's only at a "C" rating but she is at an "A" in momentum and pushing an "A" in popularity? It just came up that she's able to have her gimmick changed. Part of me wants to try the gimmick change to see if it would push her that extra step. That said, I'm not sure if it's really necessary given her recent success? Just thought I'd see what you guys would think would be best.</div><p></p>

[shawn_waters]

Now onto a question I have for fellow SWF bookers...

 

Would you change Emma Chase's gimmick if it's only at a "C" rating but she is at an "A" in momentum and pushing an "A" in popularity? It just came up that she's able to have her gimmick changed. Part of me wants to try the gimmick change to see if it would push her that extra step. That said, I'm not sure if it's really necessary given her recent success? Just thought I'd see what you guys would think would be best.

 

I'd leave it until it is a stale gimmick. If the new gimmick bombs (though with Chase's skills, it's more likely to succeed), it'll hurt her momentum big time. A 'C' is nice and average, with a minor penalty to segment ratings, but her entertainment/camera skills more than make up for that.

 

In my SWF game, I changed Jack Bruce's C rated gimmick...and the new one flopped, ending up with a D- rating... :/ So skill doesn't always equate to successful gimmicks.

[The Shape]

I've warmed to Lobby a lot since teaming him up with the Hero Squad, aligning them with Dawn to feud with the Chase Agency, and having the three of them try to convince Big Brandon to unleash his 'inner beast' or something to that nature. Cue him ripping off his suit in a fit of rage.

[Purple Cowboy]

<p>I could never book Lobby until this version of TEW. Actually, I should say that I never did book him as anything but a jobber to the stars in any version until this one, and it only happened because as a throwaway to have something for Rich Money to do at the start of the year I put them into a program and it just took off immediately.</p><p> </p><p>

In order to keep Lobby fresh I had to change his gimmick part-way through the year. So I changed him to a Native American gimmick, but the way I'm using it is that Lobby is possessed by the idea that a lobster is his spirit animal and he's supposed to become a shaman to fully integrate all of the lobster medicine/powers to him. It's sort of his own showcase to be crazy for six months or a year before I pull him back to "normal" (being a comic book hero). Going pretty well thus far!</p>

[Midnightnick]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Purple Cowboy" data-cite="Purple Cowboy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="34914" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I could never book Lobby until this version of TEW. Actually, I should say that I never did book him as anything but a jobber to the stars in any version until this one, and it only happened because as a throwaway to have something for Rich Money to do at the start of the year I put them into a program and it just took off immediately.<p> </p><p> In order to keep Lobby fresh I had to change his gimmick part-way through the year. So I changed him to a Native American gimmick, but the way I'm using it is that Lobby is possessed by the idea that a lobster is his spirit animal and he's supposed to become a shaman to fully integrate all of the lobster medicine/powers to him. It's sort of his own showcase to be crazy for six months or a year before I pull him back to "normal" (being a comic book hero). Going pretty well thus far!</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> A Lobster Spirit Animal would be a great way to bring in either Gino Montero, or Running Wolf to be a tribesmate who showed Lobby spiritual enlightment. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[AceCodey]

<p>So, do you guys keep the existing storylines for the SWF, or do you create new one's? I don't really like the existing one's too much and decided I'd do a little redecorating to the SWF. I made up two different starting stories-</p><p> </p><p>

</p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><span style="font-family:'Arial Black';"><strong>Remo vs. Rich Money</strong></span></p></div><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="font-family:'Comic Sans MS';">Being team mates at one point, everyone believed Remo and Rich Money would at least stay civil to each other, no matter what. After a tragic 2nd run as a Tag Team in 2012, a tension began to build between the two. During a Fatal Four Way Match for the SWF World Championship also featuring Christian Faith and Eric Eisen, Remo looked to be on the way to winning his first World Title, when his pin was broken by Rich Money. To make matters worse, Money was eventually pinned by Eisen, effectively costing Remo the match.</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family:'Comic Sans MS';"> </span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family:'Comic Sans MS';">

Remo would lash out at Rich Money, hitting the “The Destroyer” on him and assaulting him with a Steel Chair. Ever since, the two have been at each other’s throats, with Rich Money most recently getting the upper hand at Christmas Clash 2012, when he picked up a win in a Last Man Standing match.</span></strong></p><p> </p><p>

</p><div style="text-align:center;"><p><strong><span style="font-family:'Arial Black';">The Supremacists</span></strong></p></div><p></p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="font-family:'Comic Sans MS';">Eric Eisen has gone on to become one of the most dominant Champions in recent SWF history, but that is thanks mostly to The Supremacists, not his own skill. After winning the Title back off Jack Bruce and becoming a 2x SWF World Champion in 2011, Eisen created a group consisting of himself, Marc DuBois, Enforcer Roberts, Marat Khoklov, Brandon James, Emma Chase and more recently, Quadruple B. </span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family:'Comic Sans MS';"> </span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family:'Comic Sans MS';">

While most of the members are simply there to be Bodyguards, a lot of tension grew between Eric and Brandon James, as Brandon has his eyes set on the SWF Championship, the title Eric held. At the 2012 edition of The World is Watching, James would go on to win the Battle Royale and become the #1 Contender to Eric’s title, come The Supreme Challenge. However, Christian Faith was added to the mix when he beat Marc DuBois and Quadruple B in a 3 on 1 Handicap match, Eric had promised him a title shot, thinking he wouldn’t be able to do it. </span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family:'Comic Sans MS';"> </span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family:'Comic Sans MS';">

The match at The Supreme Challenge started with the two Supremacists members double teaming Faith, however, Brandon James eventually turned on Eric and made the match a Three Way, with Brandon and Eric’s infighting, Christian pulled off the win and won the title. After much speculation of a Face turn, Brandon shocked everyone when he assisted Eric in regaining the SWF Title at Break Like The Wind. With the Supremacists solidified, can anything stop Eric? </span></strong></p>

[Self]

<p>You've piqued my interest. I'm rarely thrilled by the starting storylines, but I like to be 'real' and act like fans want to see an end to stories that the previous bookers have built. So I usually book an end their stories and move on to my own within a couple of PPV's. </p><p> </p><p>

Gonna look back and see what I did...</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Struggle For Supremacy </strong>(Frehley defending the World Title from Christian Faith, Vengeance and Remo)</p><p>

I quickly ended this as Faith & Vengeance were both on time decline, and therefore not what I want fighting for my top belt. The challengers got some wins. Cut some promos on why Frehley should fear them. Then I did a small tournament deal at 'When Hell Freezes Over'. Remo beat Faith. Frehley beat Vengeance. Frehley beat Remo in the main event. Story over.</p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Anger Management </strong>(Angry Gilmore defends the North American Title from Eric Eisen)</p><p>

Genuinely don't know what I was thinking. They cut promos on each other up to 'When Hell Freezes Over', where Eisen beat Gilmore... but not for the title. Gilmore continued defending the belt in uninspired matches. Eisen started teaming with Remo, which quickly resulted in a babyface turn for The Supremacist. Baffling and unsatisfying end, that I'm sure the fans didn't like. </p><p> </p><p>

<strong>Thrill of the Chase </strong>(Emma Chase, Aristocrat, Brandon James & Rogue vs Jack Bruce & Valiant)</p><p>

Hard to pinpoint how long this lasted. Was it when Christian Faith replaced Jack Bruce as leader of the babyfaces? (Awesome Impact) Was it when The Platinum Blondes and Amazing Bumfholes were added to the Agency and 'Archangels' respectively? (The World Is Watching) Was it when Rogue turned on Emma? (Supreme Challenge 33) Was it when the Agency were finally disbanded by The Sunshine Squad? (Let The Games Begins). Dug this though. Seemed to have loads of ideas around that core "Powerful agency vs brave opposition" motif. It did lack a strong theme though. I knew what my Chase Agency were. Spoiled athletes. I guess Valiant represented a more wholesome sportsman. In it for the love, not the money. Then Faith turned the whole thing kinda Jesus-y. Mixed metaphors. </p><p> </p><p>

So... I tried. Half-heartedly, but I tried.</p>

[AceCodey]

I just got around that whole "real" thing this time by pretending it never happened xD.

[Irish Wolf]

Struggle For Supremacy (Frehley defending the World Title from Christian Faith, Vengeance and Remo)

I quickly ended this as Faith & Vengeance were both on time decline, and therefore not what I want fighting for my top belt. The challengers got some wins. Cut some promos on why Frehley should fear them. Then I did a small tournament deal at 'When Hell Freezes Over'. Remo beat Faith. Frehley beat Vengeance. Frehley beat Remo in the main event. Story over.

 

I looked out the only two guys ontimes decline for me are McClean and American Machine. But I like this story, the segments ratings for angles are always in the high 80s low 90s match ratings against each other always end up in the 80s. Frehley and Remo spit and vinegar trying to one up each other, Faith plays the crafty veteran looking for one more day in the sun and Vengeance, well I wrote up the promo and it was damn good all about SF being sick and him there to clean it up, but first he needs to control the power center or soul of the SWF the belt and oncehe's got that he'll kill the heart of the SWF, Christian Faith.

 

Anger Management (Angry Gilmore defends the North American Title from Eric Eisen)

Genuinely don't know what I was thinking. They cut promos on each other up to 'When Hell Freezes Over', where Eisen beat Gilmore... but not for the title. Gilmore continued defending the belt in uninspired matches. Eisen started teaming with Remo, which quickly resulted in a babyface turn for The Supremacist. Baffling and unsatisfying end, that I'm sure the fans didn't like.

 

Every week Gilmore does something to Eisen that stops some bad mannered or unhealthy for him. Telling him its for his own good. Eisen wins at When Hell Freezes Over because Gilmore gets caught with the belt Eisen was going to use on him and gets disqualified. Eisen demands a rematch but Gilmore tells him he has to live up to a certain standard and every time Eisen almost slips up Gilmore is there to correct him. Eisen gets his reamtch but loses becasue he gets DQ'd this time getting caught with the belt he hit Gilmore with. Eisen goes to Rich Money to ask if he can hire his bodyguard Khoklov and story between Eisen and Gilmore entwines with the story of Money and Khoklov vs Lobster Warrior in a series of tag matches before going back to singles.

 

Thrill of the Chase (Emma Chase, Aristocrat, Brandon James & Rogue vs Jack Bruce & Valiant)

Hard to pinpoint how long this lasted. Was it when Christian Faith replaced Jack Bruce as leader of the babyfaces? (Awesome Impact) Was it when The Platinum Blondes and Amazing Bumfholes were added to the Agency and 'Archangels' respectively? (The World Is Watching) Was it when Rogue turned on Emma? (Supreme Challenge 33) Was it when the Agency were finally disbanded by The Sunshine Squad? (Let The Games Begins). Dug this though. Seemed to have loads of ideas around that core "Powerful agency vs brave opposition" motif. It did lack a strong theme though. I knew what my Chase Agency were. Spoiled athletes. I guess Valiant represented a more wholesome sportsman. In it for the love, not the money. Then Faith turned the whole thing kinda Jesus-y. Mixed metaphors.

 

So... I tried. Half-heartedly, but I tried.

 

I didn't have as much input into this as you did I made it last and Im not as far as you so its still going. but it kind of seems a very generic story to me of mentor and student against a group trying to get all there members to move up in the SWF by taking out the competition. I also haven't added anyone else to the works in it.

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I didn't have as much input into this as you did I made it last and Im not as far as you so its still going. but it kind of seems a very generic story to me of mentor and student against a group trying to get all there members to move up in the SWF by taking out the competition. I also haven't added anyone else to the works in it.

 

I had trouble getting into that storyline (as you said, it felt a bit generic and I couldn't think of a way to make it unique), but it later became one of my favorites when I tried to take it in a different direction. Oddly enough, that direction involved removing the two original participants.

 

First off, I never really used Jack Bruce as a mentor to Valiant. In my version of events, Jack is really only involved because he likes to get under Emma's skin, and he doesn't like the power that the Agency seems to have. It's always more about sticking it to them than it is about helping Valiant. He and Valiant just happen to have a common enemy.

 

I set up Rogue vs. Valiant at the first or second PPV to settle things, and at the time I intended to end the storyline with that. The Chase Agency had formed a plan to cheat their way to a Rogue victory, but then Bruce trapped the rest of the group in their locker room while Valiant managed to get the win over Rogue in a close match. Valiant had become a proper Main Eventer at that point, so I took him out of the storyline as he and Rogue put the feud behind them for the time being. Rogue then left the Agency as he figured that if a lone wrestler (Jack Bruce though he may be) could get the better of them like that, then they were of no use to him.

 

At that point it basically became an Emma Chase vs. Jack Bruce storyline, and I've really been getting into it. Even though they won't be wrestling each other, they're perfectly suited for a one-on-one type of feud.

 

1. Their characters contrast in some interesting ways. That's probably true for all of us, no matter how we personally write them.

2. Chase is one of the few people who I can see getting the better of Jack on a regular basis, and vice versa.

3. There's sort of a sexual tension angle that you can work as well, which could lead nicely into a turn for either of them should they end up setting aside their differences.

4. Their angle grades have done wonders for my Supreme TV cards.