Hall of Fame 2013 Nomination Phase

[angeldelayette]

This is taken from last year's Hall of Fame process. Everything seemed to have gone well last year so I thought I would do it again this year.

 

Alright, so this is going to go in two parts. The Nomination phase and the Voting phase. The Voting phase is going to come later so I'll explain that part when we get there. The Nomination phase goes like this:

 

1. Each person gets 3 choices for Nomination to be placed in my pm box. Only those sent to my pm box will be counted.

2. Each choice gets 1 point per Nomination

3. Self-Nomination IS allowed in this phase but not in the next phase.

4. Those who are already in the Hall of Fame get double the points for being in the Hall of Fame, so instead of 1 point per Nomination, they get 2 points per Nomination.

5. Top ten in points move on to the Voting phase.

6. Feel free to post publicly in this thread who your nominations are and why people should vote for them.

7. Anyone who has run a diary is eligible.

8. Hall of Famers already are as follows: Monkeypox, Scapino1974, Tristram, Adam Ryland, Nevermore, Tigerkinney, KeefMoon, J Silver, James Casey, BigPapa42, Marcel Fromage, Reaper, Dragonmack, Eisen-verse, Self, Phantom Stranger, jhd1, The Final Countdown, angeldelayette and NoNeck.

9. Any further questions, feel free to ask on this thread or in my pm box.

10. This will run for one month, until October 11 at 12 Noon PST.

11. This is the Hall of Fame for diary writers.

 

Nominees So Far

1. michgcs=12 Votes

2. 20LEgend=11 Votes

3. MJStark=10 Votes

4. Oldschool=6 Votes

Infinitywpi=6 Votes

6. Wildfire1324=5 Votes

MichiganHero=5 Votes

The Lloyd=5 Votes

9. Jingo=4 Votes

Beejus=4 Votes

11. BHK1978=3 Votes

3rdStringPG=3 Votes

Boltinho=3 Votes

14. RKOwange=2 Votes

the ismailite=2 Votes

theoutlaw321=2 Votes

17. |Anderz|=1 Vote

Rhudipoo=1 Vote

christmas_ape=1 Vote

foolinc=1 Vote

Nobby_McDonald=1 Vote

Voeltzwagon=1 Vote

ShadowedFlames=1 Vote

codey=1 Vote

[angeldelayette]

Why this got one star, I'm not sure. But I'm bumping this up for those who need to vote.

[Eisen-verse]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="angeldelayette" data-cite="angeldelayette" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36698" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why this got one star, I'm not sure. But I'm bumping this up for those who need to vote.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> There will always be those people; sadly....</p>

[Owen Rey]

Vote for Lloyd!!!

[The Lloyd]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Owen Rey" data-cite="Owen Rey" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36698" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Vote for Lloyd!!!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Whaaat?? In the Hall of Fame?? lolol... I'm touched bro <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"> and honored <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p>

[kieranforthewin]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Owen Rey" data-cite="Owen Rey" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36698" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Vote for Lloyd!!!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Agreed!</p>

[Boltinho]

I'll be sending my vote for 20Legend. Mad skills buddy

[Russelrules44]

Oh man......This is tough......I've gotta vote for........RKOwnage, Wicked skills bro.

[The Lloyd]

Oh man......This is tough......I've gotta vote for........RKOwnage, Wicked skills bro.

 

Make sure you PM angeldelayette otherwise it won't count

[The Lloyd]

Can't believe i've got 3 nominations for this!! lolol... Just thought i'd say i've nominated michgcs and Nobby_McDonald so far...

 

#ShamelessBUMP

[20LEgend]

I've picked my nominations. Maybe everyone thinks like this but I was very suprised to see the first nomination, so to be up near the top of the initial stage is crazy to me <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

[Voeltzwagon]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="20LEgend" data-cite="20LEgend" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36698" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've picked my nominations. Maybe everyone thinks like this but I was very suprised to see the first nomination, so to be up near the top of the initial stage is crazy to me <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You are too humble, sir. That isn't a bad trait mind you.</p>

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36698" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>4. Those who are already in the Hall of Fame get double the points for being in the Hall of Fame, so instead of 1 point per Nomination, they get 2 points per Nomination.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The following will probably be yet another unpopular opinion from me. </p><p> </p><p> I always wonder why this rule is in place. To me it smacks of elitism, I mean basically this rule gives a leg up to whomever is friendly with or has a reader that is in the Hall of Fame. To me that is an unfair advantage to people who do not have readers or friends who are already in the HOF.</p>

[BHK1978]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36698" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>4. Those who are already in the Hall of Fame get double the points for being in the Hall of Fame, so instead of 1 point per Nomination, they get 2 points per Nomination.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The following will probably be yet another unpopular opinion from me. </p><p> </p><p> I always wonder why this rule is in place. To me it smacks of elitism, I mean basically this rule gives a leg up to whomever is friendly with or has a reader that is in the Hall of Fame. To me that is an unfair advantage to people who do not have readers or friends who are already in the HOF. </p><p> </p><p> Anyway I am going to send in my noms for Oldschool, Jingo, and Michgcs.</p>

[angeldelayette]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36698" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The following will probably be yet another unpopular opinion from me. <p> </p><p> I always wonder why this rule is in place. To me it smacks of elitism, I mean basically this rule gives a leg up to whomever is friendly with or has a reader that is in the Hall of Fame. To me that is an unfair advantage to people who do not have readers or friends who are already in the HOF. </p><p> </p><p> Anyway I am going to send in my noms for Oldschool, Jingo, and Michgcs.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I can understand where you're coming from with your thoughts on this. However, it is done to give a 'thank you' to those who are already in the Hall of Fame. Generally speaking, it is not the extra points that will give someone their spot in the Hall of Fame. You are entitled to your opinion, of course.</p>

[Phantom Stranger]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36698" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The following will probably be yet another unpopular opinion from me. <p> </p><p> I always wonder why this rule is in place. To me it smacks of elitism, I mean basically this rule gives a leg up to whomever is friendly with or has a reader that is in the Hall of Fame. To me that is an unfair advantage to people who do not have readers or friends who are already in the HOF. </p><p> </p><p> Anyway I am going to send in my noms for Oldschool, Jingo, and Michgcs.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is the first one in a while where I didn't vote early.</p><p> </p><p> I haven't sat down to figure it out yet, in fact. But I CAN say I've never nominated someone based on anything but how well they write diaries, and frankly, I'm not that keen on the implication I'd decide by being buddies rather than them putting out good work.</p><p> </p><p> Yes, it's an advantage to people who have HoF readers. But frankly, if you don't have enough readers period you won't get the nod.</p><p> </p><p> This phase is ABOUT the number of readers.</p>

[BHK1978]

<p>Once again as with every time you and I do our little Lincoln/Douglas debate, this will be my last post on the topic. Feel free to respond or don't it is up to you.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Phantom Stranger" data-cite="Phantom Stranger" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36698" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This is the first one in a while where I didn't vote early.<p> </p><p> I haven't sat down to figure it out yet, in fact. But I CAN say I've never nominated someone based on anything but how well they write diaries, and frankly, I'm not that keen on the implication I'd decide by being buddies rather than them putting out good work.</p><p> </p><p> Yes, it's an advantage to people who have HoF readers. But frankly, if you don't have enough readers period you won't get the nod.</p><p> </p><p> This phase is ABOUT the number of readers.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Funny, I wrote my little disclaimer at the start of my post because I figured you would respond. Why is it that any time someone says something against the status quo on this site, you get defensive? Did I say/imply that the post had to do anything about you?</p><p> </p><p> There answer is no, never once did I mention your name and I was not thinking of anyone when I posted my last post.</p><p> </p><p> Therefore, there is no reason for you to be offended by any perceived implication. You might vote on the quality of a diary but you cannot speak for anyone but yourself, so you have no idea how or why other people vote the way they do. I understand that the votes in this round do not have an actual effect on who does or does not get in. However, it does help decide who makes the cut.</p><p> </p><p> I am not saying this for me because I know I will never get in (I am an average writer at best.) and really I do not care if I do or do not. I am saying this because for someone like Oldschool (Who I am using as an example) might never even make the cut because he does not have the right people reading his diary. If he had two or more hall of famers nominating him he would have four or more votes right there. While if he had just two non-hall of famers he would end up with well two votes and that might not even be enough for him to make the cut to get to the final vote.</p><p> </p><p> It is funny but I remember a couple of years ago when I believe it was Rathen4, who said he felt as if there was an “old boys” sort of vibe in the diary section and everyone got offended by him saying that. However, the rule I pointed out does support Rathen’s view. As with everything else in life, it is all about who you know.</p>

[Phantom Stranger]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36698" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Funny, I wrote my little disclaimer at the start of my post because I figured you would respond. Why is it that any time someone says something against the status quo on this site, you get defensive? Did I say/imply that the post had to do anything about you?</p><p> </p><p> There answer is no, never once did I mention your name and I was not thinking of anyone when I posted my last post.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You can't play the 'I didn't name you' card when you named and cast aspersions on a whole subset of the board of whom I am one.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36698" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I am saying this because for someone like Oldschool (Who I am using as an example) might never even make the cut because he does not have the right people reading his diary. If he had two or more hall of famers nominating him he would have four or more votes right there. While if he had just two non-hall of famers he would end up with well two votes and that might not even be enough for him to make the cut to get to the final vote.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The current nominations list has four people on it I've voted for prior to my Hall of Fame add and after. Neither lot got them in. For the record, Oldschool is one of them - I've loved his work since a 'rebuild the NWA' diary that never got past roster selection but didn't need to to be awesome.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36698" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It is funny but I remember a couple of years ago when I believe it was Rathen4, who said he felt as if there was an “old boys” sort of vibe in the diary section and everyone got offended by him saying that. However, the rule I pointed out does support Rathen’s view. As with everything else in life, it is all about who you know.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, it's an old boys feel. That's why the top diaries every week are Bigpapa's, Tigerkinney's, Dragonmack's, and mine... no, hang on, you say only two of us are posting? Huh.</p><p> </p><p> OK. So it's why since returning to the diary game I've split the DOTM victories with Tigerkinney and angeldelayette... no, hang on, you say I'm yet to win since my return, and the people who're winning started well after me?</p><p> </p><p> Wow, there must be a NEW old boys club.</p><p> </p><p> I wonder how our pre-existing clique didn't shut that down?</p><p> </p><p> Well, probably the same reason the pre-existing clique didn't shut me down when I started getting popular, or Self, or James Casey, or Eisen-Verse. Or codey. Or smwilliams. Or 3rdStringPG. It's why michgcs' long-running real world diary has been supported, why Voeltzwagen has a steady readership.</p><p> </p><p> Looking at the list of people I name up there, incidentally, I've had PM chats with JC, E-V, and Bigpapa. I've asked Self for a render, and when I did a merch thread Tigerkinney requested stuff through me. (I should totally get back to that.) I've probably messaged Dragonmack at some other point, but that's about it. Outside of the HoF stuff I don't think I've messaged angeldelayette, for that matter.</p><p> </p><p> The last six names on PMs in my inbox are from aspiring writers wanting tips. All of them got them - all of those names, in fact, appear multiple times as we talked about it.</p><p> </p><p> This is an organically changing forum, BHK. The perceived old guard are perceived as the old guard because we're active, have high post counts, and have left long threads behind.</p><p> </p><p> You are, in fact, one of the old guard. Here's your union card if you didn't already have it.</p><p> </p><p> BHK, I call you out on this stuff because what you say and the few facts we can collate - view rates, messages from older writers in newer writers' threads, DOTM votes and nominations, etc - clash. I call you out whenever there's another big awards thread, because you do this every awards thread. The Lincoln-Douglas harangue doesn't really factor in here; you say something about this stuff, and I present the alternative case.</p><p> </p><p> One of us backs it up with facts, and if you came into one of these and presented facts supporting your point of view, I'd back you. And not just because you're the old guard and we have to stick together.</p><p> </p><p> ...</p><p> </p><p> Oh, yeah. One last thing.</p><p> </p><p> The Hall of Fame IS kind of an elitist concept in the first place. Any award that's not a participation award is. But, as with the DOTY awards, it's also a chance to remind folks of the stuff they've missed.</p><p> </p><p> Last DOTY I called upon you to help do that and I did my part. I'm calling on you to do the same here; remind people. Rabble rouse.</p><p> </p><p> And for the love of Pete, don't keep claiming the HoF vote our friends in unless, if someone calls you on that, you're not going to back down.</p>

[The Final Countdown]

Not sure if he'll get in, but I'm glad I wasn't the only one to nominate Wildfire1324. He's the one that inspired me to get into diary writing with his awesome NWA diary(s), which is probably still my all-time favorite even after five years on the board.

[tg01]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Final Countdown" data-cite="The Final Countdown" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36698" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not sure if he'll get in, but I'm glad I wasn't the only one to nominate Wildfire1324. He's the one that inspired me to get into diary writing with his awesome NWA diary(s), which is probably still my all-time favorite even after five years on the board.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I completely second every single word you said, and will definitely be sending my vote his way as well....everything he did with his NWA diaries was gold, and I really hope he is able to return one day and get that ROH diary of his going because that seemed like it could have been pretty boss as well!</p>

[MJStark]

<p>Question for, well, anyone really...</p><p> </p><p>

How come LoNdOn has Hall of Famer under his name but isn't in the list here, but there are guys on that list who don't have it?</p>

[Jingo]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MJStark" data-cite="MJStark" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36698" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Question for, well, anyone really...<p> </p><p> How come LoNdOn has Hall of Famer under his name but isn't in the list here, but there are guys on that list who don't have it?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Having it under his name is how many posts he has, where this is for the Dynasty writers.</p><p> </p><p> EDIT: Just noticed i have it under my name, it must be around 4,000 to 5,000 posts at a guess.</p>

[MJStark]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jingo" data-cite="Jingo" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="36698" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Having it under his name is how many posts he has, where this is for the Dynasty writers.<p> </p><p> EDIT: Just noticed i have it under my name, it must be around 4,000 to 5,000 posts at a guess.</p></div></blockquote><p> Ahhh, that makes sense, cheers <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[RKOwnage]

A good amount of votes have already been cast, but I'll bump this for good measure.

[angeldelayette]

Only five days left to get your vote in. Make sure you get it in because every vote counts!