The Kevin Owens Effect

[FRAGz]

After I saw that topic about the Roman Reigns Effect aka the Billy Gunn Effect. It remind me of a success run I wasn't ready for.

 

I call it the Kevin Owens Effect. You know when you have a wrestler who get super over in an uncontrolled way and then you don't even know how to use him because you wasn't ready for it.

 

Share your stories, I'm interested to read them.

 

Mine was Brian Breaker. Using a 2016 RW mod. I hired Brian Breaker to job for my blue chippers and renamed him Paul Bockwinkel (He was gimmickly the son of Nick Bockwinkel). But while losing in opening match he was getting pretty hot. Until he reach the midcard when I put him in tag team with Roderick Strong and they won the tag team titles about a month after. Roderick was supposed to be my next superstar but Bockwinkel was getting real hot. Then I moved him to the uppercard so he can job for main eventers but again he was getting real hot. Even faster at that stage and I had a brand new main eventer. I didn't knew what to do with him. And guess what, he was the wrestler of the year that year.

 

It was kinda funny to see him getting so popular in about 6 months. At the end of the year he had a popularity level over 90. lol

[Bigpapa42]

Ummm I think using Kevin Owens as the example here is horribly misleading. He is not someone who found success unexpectedly. This is someone who was put in an NXT feud with the NXT champion immediately, won the NXT belt two months after he debuted, beat John Cena clean in his first WWE match, and has won the Intercontinental belt twice in nine months. He's been pushed about as hard as anyone in recent years.

[Matsudiro]

My user character in my Road to Glory. I was in USPW about 6-7 years in and I had just lost the tag team titles due to my partner (Steve Flash) leaving the company. I was more than ready for 2-3 years of midcard hell fighting for the TV title, but by the time my second reign was over I was in the high 90s for pop, and although I could justify one or two more feuds, I needed to be in the main event at this point. So I threw myself into the Randy B, Man Under Pressure storyline and ended up completing the RtG a little early. Had 100 pop in every region in the world bar all of Japan when I left USPro, pretty ridiculous given it was super tough getting over in the tag team division.

[niall2015]

I would agree with a previous comment that Kevin Owens is a bad example of someone who got over unexpectedly, because Owens was pushed from the very beginning, but without doubt he is the best thing going in WWE right now. I think the "Daniel Bryan Effect" is more of an appropriate name, but to answer the question, it's Alberto Del Rio for me. In an old WWE save, I wanted him to be the jobber to the stars. I had him lose almost every fued he was in to Bálor, Ambrose, Reigns and Itami, and the guy just refused to die and eventually became my top heel with a Pop of 88 across the States and 91 across Mexico, with pop of atleast 80 everywhere else. It was kind of frustrating to me because I literally had nothing for the guy, and to make matters worse, his contract expired, and because I had him job to my main eventers, and to help get my newcomers from NXT over, he didnt want to resign. It was tough to see him leave

[tnyrwn]

For me it has to be Taka Michinoku in the August 1997 RW Mod. I signed him in the 1st couple of weeks of starting the game to bolster the Light weight division. I had no intention of pushing him, I am currently in feb 1998 and he is sitting firmly in the upper mid card almost main eventing he was opener/Lower Mid when i signed him. I have no idea how he got there and dont really know what to do with him

[AfRoMaN36]

Christian for me. I couldn't push the guy down if I tried. And I did. His charisma carried him through his segments, nevermind his in ring skill. Without trying he became one of the most over people in my Smackdown Brand. Even when I tried to job him down in order to build others up... even when injured and doing commentary during a match with a guy he was feuding against, he would always seem to recover and be back to A popularity in no time. Really strange.

[fabioman3]

Kevin Owens!!!

 

This one time happened to me...with Kevin Owens!

 

i was playing a 2012 real world mod with wwe and hired Kevin Steen to NXT,since NXT is performance over pop,he got over really fast,started as a lower midcard and was a Main Eventer in something like 2 or 3 months,i had no storylines and feud ideas for him at all because i thought he would take some 6 months to build up,but i brought him to the main roster the same way.he lost a lot of feuds (because in the Main Roster,he was just a Opener) and after 1 year of playing,most exactly after the RR 2013,i checed his pop because he pulled out a 60 match rating against a no name jobber,and i was surprised to see his pop was at 80,i tought it could be a up 60 but never an 80!.he auto-pushed to upper midcarder and lost a feud against main eventer CM Punk in Wrestlemania and i checked his pop again and it was at low 90s!,someone i tought that i would take 3 or 4 years to build up took just 1 year! and became a main eventer!,after seeing he has potential (much more potential than i tought) i am finally using him properly and he is feuding with Cena for the WWE Title and they will main event Money In The Bank

 

Major Stats of Owens:

 

Pop: Started at 26,got to 50 in just 3 months of NXT and got to 90 in just 1 year on the main roster

 

Basics: 97 (started at 80)

 

Psychology: 90 (started at 75)

 

Selling: 91 (started at high 60s)

 

Charisma: 93 (started at low 80s)

 

Mic and Acting: Both at 95 (one started at 83 and the other at 79)

[JMDSII]

I call this the ''Colby Corino effect'',because in one of my ROH games he literally went from Enhancement Talent to Main Eventer in three months

 

Then he jobbed a lot to Jay Lethal.

 

 

11/10 would book Ring of WWE wrestling again.

[AfRoMaN36]

[QUOTE=JMDSII;2124946]I call this the ''Colby Corino effect'',because in one of my ROH games he literally went from Enhancement Talent to Main Eventer in [B]three months[/B] Then he jobbed a lot to Jay Lethal. 11/10 would book Ring of WWE wrestling again.[/QUOTE] Colby is my go to jobber in my WWE game. I had no clue anyone else actually used him. I like him and he's a good hand. But he just does not look like a star. At all. It's hard for me to even imagine pushing him.

[TheZies]

Funny that my Kevin Owens effect is actually Roman Reigns.

 

I stole him from WWE while running my created cult organization. I threw him out there and within a few months he was approaching 90 pop. I was not ready for him to get that popular that quickly.

[The_CoC]

This would be Christians second appearance on this board but damn in my 2001 save he just jumped in popularity with no intended push what so ever. So at the start of the save Christian was a midcarder and then over the next month I gave him some wins but nothing big and no massive feud with anyone. Now he and Edge will feud with the Dudleyz but Christian just popped in as a main eventer! I am a massive fan of Christian so no complaining here

[TEWFan]

Roderick Remus. I hired him to be another spot guy I can job to bigger names in my CZCW game. I had him win the Extreme title when he reached upper midcard status and the idea was for him to be a transitional champion. But he started putting on great matches and eventually instead of transitioning the belt I had to put another Main Eventer (Donnie J) over him in order to take the belt from him. Then Remus "turned" on Remmy Skye and is feuding with him for the belt. He is second most popular behind Remmy Skye in my current game and has usurped the leadership of The Main Draw (my heel stable) from Donnie J in a Farooq/The Rock style story.

 

BTW, The Main Draw is Remus, Jackpot Jordan, Jake Idol, Brendan Idol, Nelson Callum, Kirk Jameson and Mainstream Hernandez. I never could imagine Remus as THE LEADER of those guys but.....well, it happened.

[FRAGz]

Ummm I think using Kevin Owens as the example here is horribly misleading. He is not someone who found success unexpectedly. This is someone who was put in an NXT feud with the NXT champion immediately, won the NXT belt two months after he debuted, beat John Cena clean in his first WWE match, and has won the Intercontinental belt twice in nine months. He's been pushed about as hard as anyone in recent years.

 

I named it The Kevin Owens Effect because he got enormously over and WWE just don't know what to do with him. Not that he doesn't deserve.

[Poputt]

<p>Wouldn't a better term in recent history be "The Zack Ryder Effect?" He got super over even though he was jobbing and rarely on RAW or Smackdown. Before WWE buried him in the Kane/John Cena feud he likely could've been a new Edge with just a standard push.</p><p> </p><p>

Anyway, it happened to me with Alex Wright in 1996 War Begins mod. I gave him a Vampire gimmick as a joke and was "ironically" booking him on every show because the gimmick had a solid rating. His popularity just wouldn't cap and I was eventually getting A rated segments of him just walking around backstage.</p><p> </p><p>

Also: Remus is friggin awesome. He hates jobbing though.</p>

[FRAGz]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Poputt" data-cite="Poputt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="40961" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Wouldn't a better term in recent history be "The Zack Ryder Effect?".</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Indeed.</p>

[KingofOldSchool]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="niall2015" data-cite="niall2015" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="40961" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I would agree with a previous comment that Kevin Owens is a bad example of someone who got over unexpectedly, because Owens was pushed from the very beginning, but without doubt he is the best thing going in WWE right now. I think the "Daniel Bryan Effect" is more of an appropriate name, but to answer the question, it's Alberto Del Rio for me. In an old WWE save, I wanted him to be the jobber to the stars. I had him lose almost every fued he was in to Bálor, Ambrose, Reigns and Itami, and the guy just refused to die and eventually became my top heel with a Pop of 88 across the States and 91 across Mexico, with pop of atleast 80 everywhere else. It was kind of frustrating to me because I literally had nothing for the guy, and to make matters worse, his contract expired, and because I had him job to my main eventers, and to help get my newcomers from NXT over, he didnt want to resign. It was tough to see him leave</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Why didn't you put effort into find something for him? It's obvious he had a high destiny roll. You sound like you would be perfect for the WWE.</p>

[drcat123]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="KingofOldSchool" data-cite="KingofOldSchool" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="40961" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why didn't you put effort into find something for him? It's obvious he had a high destiny roll. You sound like you would be perfect for the WWE.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I agreed if you hated the guy. Repacked him as a masked wrestler with a picture you like</p>

[niall2015]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="KingofOldSchool" data-cite="KingofOldSchool" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="40961" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Why didn't you put effort into find something for him? It's obvious he had a high destiny roll. You sound like you would be perfect for the WWE.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Del Rio is just one of those guys that I cant stand to watch, he's so bland. He bores the life out of me, and actually drove me to stop watching WWE live for a few years back during his "destiny" phase. I couldnt stand him then and he's even worse now. So I think I couldnt think of something for him, because I just dont like Del Rio. He's part of a group with Sheamus, Reigns, Ryback and Barrett that I've just seen too much of, to even care about booking them correctly in TEW. It's petty but when I hate seeing wrestlers in real life, I dont even want to use them in a game</p>

[drcat123]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="niall2015" data-cite="niall2015" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="40961" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Del Rio is just one of those guys that I cant stand to watch, he's so bland. He bores the life out of me, and actually drove me to stop watching WWE live for a few years back during his "destiny" phase. I couldnt stand him then and he's even worse now. So I think I couldnt think of something for him, because I just dont like Del Rio. He's part of a group with Sheamus, Reigns, Ryback and Barrett that I've just seen too much of, to even care about booking them correctly in TEW. It's petty but when I hate seeing wrestlers in real life, I dont even want to use them in a game</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I can see it. If I sign a guy from wwe. I usually buried them to get my guys over. I always hate paying out 50k for same ratings as my main eventers for a 1/4 of the cost.</p>

[GilmourGuy]

<p>I had a CVerse game where I was running a low level Canadian regional fed and brought in a bunch of my fav foreign workers. I paired Lone Shark and Pumpkin Jack together as this comedy tag team. They were a blast to write, but the tag team division was already face heavy so they slotted into 4th or something. They didn't beat an established tag team in their first six shows.</p><p>

One night I needed a face title challenger. It didn't matter who, the match was more an angle than anything. I check my roster and Lone Shark has been auto pushed to Upper Card. Guy went from 0 to 30 pop (while mostly losing) in about six shows.</p>

[JamHead]

This actually happened to me in the 1991 mod with Shawn Michaels. I brought him into WCW the summer of 1991. He wasn't doing much other than being a henchman for Flair. The original story that I had for him was that he just couldn't win a big match that would end with him winning the US title from Rick Rude sometime in the summer of 92. Shawn lost every single PPV match for the rest of the year, but all of sudden he went from in the 50s popularity to 90 in a couple months. I didn't expect him to boost up so fast, so I ended up having him turn on Flair making Flair a babyface and challenge for the title by spring 92.

[K-Nection]

<p>Reading this thread I'm starting to think I'm the only person who examines each of my talent after every show to see their pop gains and losses. I examine their skill increase and decrease every month to see how they are moving along. I used to work in restaurant management and the company I worked for had us evaluate our employees every month and rank them as <strong>A</strong>, <strong>B</strong>, and <strong>C</strong> guys.</p><p> </p><p>

It's an old habit but I tend to treat TEW the same way. <strong>A</strong> guys get progressed to the main event. <strong>B</strong> guys I will specifically work on their weaknesses to turn them into <strong>A</strong> guys. <strong>C</strong> guys either get jobbed if they behave well, get their contract shortened or fired if they are a locker room cancers.</p>

[Mattywood]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="40961" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I used to work in restaurant management and the company I worked for had us evaluate our employees every month and rank them as <strong>A</strong>, <strong>B</strong>, and <strong>C</strong> guys.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So YOU'RE the one that suggested that Restaurant A get rid of Menu Item B! <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> j/k</p><p> </p><p> In all seriousness, I've seen firsthand (I used to be a server and I dine out quite a bit) what good and bad management can do to a restaurant.</p><p> </p><p> On topic, I had this happen with Rick Rude in a 1991 game. I had been debating who I would have feud with Hulk Hogan for a title match at SummerSlam, and Rude's overness kept rising. So I decided not only would he be Hogan's opponent at SummerSlam, he'd win the title as well.</p>

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="40961" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Reading this thread I'm starting to think I'm the only person who examines each of my talent after every show to see their pop gains and losses. I examine their skill increase and decrease every month to see how they are moving along. I used to work in restaurant management and the company I worked for had us evaluate our employees every month and rank them as <strong>A</strong>, <strong>B</strong>, and <strong>C</strong> guys.<p> </p><p> It's an old habit but I tend to treat TEW the same way. <strong>A</strong> guys get progressed to the main event. <strong>B</strong> guys I will specifically work on their weaknesses to turn them into <strong>A</strong> guys. <strong>C</strong> guys either get jobbed if they behave well, get their contract shortened or fired if they are a locker room cancers.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I do the same, that's why I'm never caught by surprise, or hardly, with massive overness gains, even if not intended.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Matt Shannon" data-cite="Matt Shannon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="40961" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So YOU'RE the one that suggested that Restaurant A get rid of Menu Item B! <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> j/k<p> </p><p> In all seriousness, I've seen firsthand (I used to be a server and I dine out quite a bit) what good and bad management can do to a restaurant.</p><p> </p><p> On topic, I had this happen with Rick Rude in a 1991 game. I had been debating who I would have feud with Hulk Hogan for a title match at SummerSlam, and Rude's overness kept rising. So I decided not only would he be Hogan's opponent at SummerSlam, he'd win the title as well.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><p> And how did you get Hogan on board with the idea of losing? <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Jaysin]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Matt Shannon" data-cite="Matt Shannon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="40961" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So YOU'RE the one that suggested that Restaurant A get rid of Menu Item B! <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"><img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"> j/k<p> </p><p> In all seriousness, I've seen firsthand (I used to be a server and I dine out quite a bit) what good and bad management can do to a restaurant.</p><p> </p><p> On topic, I had this happen with Rick Rude in a 1991 game. I had been debating who I would have feud with Hulk Hogan for a title match at SummerSlam, and Rude's overness kept rising. So I decided not only would he be Hogan's opponent at SummerSlam, he'd win the title as well.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It doesn't matter what year I play pre-94, Rude always rises to the top of the card. Even in mods that take place after he's retired whatever workers he manages rises to the top based on his entertainment skills alone. Rude is god-like.</p><p> </p><p> As for on topic, I had Hercules Hernandez(under a mask with the name Chernobyl) who was strictly meant to be the fall guy in tag matches with Wrath(Bryan Clark) and his popularity sky rocketed. I ended up giving him the US title and he raised the prestige to rival my world title.</p>