Astil Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="40971" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>How reputable is this site? Just stumbled on it while looking for info on my favorite young lion Kitamura. I miss the big guy<p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.mandatory.com/wrestlezone/news/1000383-katsuya-kitamura-injury-revealed-why-he-hasnt-wrestled-in-njpw" rel="external nofollow">http://www.mandatory.com/wrestlezone/news/1000383-katsuya-kitamura-injury-revealed-why-he-hasnt-wrestled-in-njpw</a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I remember reading he retired due to concussions but not sure where.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 How reputable is this site? Just stumbled on it while looking for info on my favorite young lion Kitamura. I miss the big guy http://www.mandatory.com/wrestlezone/news/1000383-katsuya-kitamura-injury-revealed-why-he-hasnt-wrestled-in-njpw The rumors were steroid/drug use (reported by fans), Yakuza involvement, concussion (reported by Kevin Kelly) and then a car accident that crushed his leg. Everyone at New Japan are being secretive about it so it's impossible to sort fact from fiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 <p>World Tag League teams</p><p> </p><p> – Chaos (Tomohiro Ishii & Toru Yano)</p><p> – Los Ingobernables de Japon (EVIL & SANADA)</p><p> – Suzuki-gun (Zack Sabre Jr. & Taichi)</p><p> – Suzuki-gun (Minoru Suzuki & Takashi Iizuka)</p><p> – Killer Elite Squad (Davey Boy Smith Jr. & Lance Archer)</p><p> – IWGP Heavyweight Tag Team Champions Bullet Club/Guerrillas Of Destiny (Tama Tonga & Tanga Loa)</p><p> – The Elite (Hangman Page and Yujiro Takahashi</p><p> – Chuckie T & Beretta</p><p> – David Finlay & Juice Robinson</p><p> – Michael Elgin & Jeff Cobb</p><p> – Ayato Yoshida & Shota Umino</p><p> – Togi Makabe & Toa Henare</p><p> – Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Satoshi Kojima</p><p> – Yuji Nagata & Manabu Nakanishi</p><p> </p><p> Super annoyed Sabre is teaming with Taichi and Suzuki is teaming ith Iizuka. Would have much rather have had Minoru and Zack teaming up.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhyme1234 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Well it kind of makes sense, as Taichi & Takashi Iizuka can be used as pineaters. This can also help both Zack Saber Jr. & Minoru Suzuki as neither of them taking the pin won't kill their momentum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rhyme1234" data-cite="Rhyme1234" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="40971" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well it kind of makes sense, as Taichi & Takashi Iizuka can be used as pineaters. This can also help both Zack Saber Jr. & Minoru Suzuki as neither of them taking the pin won't kill their momentum.</div></blockquote><p> Plus won't they have a match against each other during the tourney? I'm not entirely sure how that'll work this year with the teams not being split into blocks. But yeah, even a tease of Suzuki vs. Sabre would be all kinds of fun. Personally I don't want Minoru and Zack teaming together in WTL unless they're going to win it, or at least go to the finals.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 <p>There are a lot of teams in there clearly just to pad thing out... Suzuki Gun teams seems excessive too, and not having Hangman Page teaming with Chase Owens seems like some kind of oversight. I know both are touring guys and that it makes sense to use Yujiro as a home talent, but at least the Virginia Boys actually make sense as a team.</p><p> </p><p> I'm sure the booking will make things work, but it seems to be between 4 teams (is it 2 blocks?) with a chance to win. LIJ, GoD, KES and Chaos. Though FinJuice would be nice to see do well, and I'm sure Elgin/Cobb will be a beast of a team too.</p><p> </p><p> Surprised to see Makabe teaming with Henare instead of Honma... I guess they aren't rushing him with a major tournament yet, but I expected them to be in this as past winners.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 <p>Chase is pure garbage and shouldn’t even be in New Japan let alone in World Tag League.</p><p> </p><p> Dude looks like crap and is crap.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingster Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="40971" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Chase is pure garbage and shouldn’t even be in New Japan let alone in World Tag League.<p> </p><p> Dude looks like crap and is crap.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Gotta love wrestling fans and their objectivity. Always level-headed and with substance.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Kingster" data-cite="Kingster" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="40971" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Gotta love wrestling fans and their objectivity. Always level-headed and with substance.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> He had an ego before he went to New Japan, he was a total ass when I met him. He tried to superstar everyone in the locker room. He acted better than every other worker there because of who trained him. </p><p> </p><p> Sorry I didn’t elaborate beyond saying he sucks. <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mootinie Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 <p>World Tag League booking was the absolute dirt worst. I trust that New Japan will get a free pass because fans and journalists are still wearing their rose-tinted spectacles and all but the final was a repeat of last year's and now none of it even matters because they're running a three-way tag title match at Wrestle Kingdom, perhaps to avoid running the World Tag League final again on the big show.</p><p> </p><p> Was the wrestling at least good? I skip this tournament every year because of rubbish booking like this. If they wanted me to take it seriously, how about running a fresh final match that actually means something for at least four weeks? At least make it important until Wrestle Kingdom! It's a lot of investment for no return because nobody is going to give two hoots about the winners of this goddamn thing even tomorrow now.</p><p> </p><p> Edit: They really are the worst promotion when it comes to stuff like this. Sho and Yoh won the Super Jr. Tag League for a shot at the IWGP Jr Tag titles and that's also a three-way for some inexplicable reason. So what have they actually won and what was the point in running a tournament? I suppose it's part of New Japan's "westernisation", nothing can make any sense or have any practical purpose anymore because they're taking the very worst elements of WWE and tossing them into the mixing pot instead of the storytelling that makes WWE's good side shine so brightly on occasion.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Century Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Yeah, Mootinie, I agree. The tag leagues both bored the heck out of me, especially the World Tag League. I stopped watching after 2 or 3 shows, it all just felt like filler waiting for Wrestle Kingdom. A shame too, because it seems like, reading through the history of NJPW, the tag league used to be a huge deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sco xY2Jx Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 So, aside from the farce that was the tag league (the young bucks will be in the tag match at WK every year til they retire, anyway), how are we feeling about the WK card. I'm a relatively new fan to the product but have invested some time into it and am hyped. Card looks great. Could do with Minoru Suzuki on it, but still. Also, Ibushi and Ospreay could be a show stealer. IWGP Heavyweight Championship Kenny Omega © vs Hiroshi Tanahashi IWGP Intercontinental Championship Chris Jericho © vs Tetsuya Naito Kazuchika Okada vs Jay White IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship KUSHIDA © vs Taiji Ishimori IWGP United States Championship Cody © vs Juice Robinson RevPro British Heavyweight Championship Tomohiro Ishii © vs Zack Sabre Jr. IWGP Tag Team Championships Guerrillas of Destiny © vs The Young Bucks vs. EVIL and SANADA IWGP Junior Heavyweight Tag Team Championships Yoshinobu Kanemaru and El Desperado © vs Roppongi 3K vs BUSHI and Shingo Takagi IWGP NEVER Openweight Championship Kota Ibushi © vs Will Ospreay WrestleKingdom 13 Pre-Show Gauntlet Match to become Number One Contender for the NEVER Six-Man Titles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mootinie Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 <p>I think it's the card that people wanted. </p><p> </p><p> The main event is fascinating to me. Omega's deal reportedly expires in late January but I'd be stunned if he left the company and dropped the belt considering it feels like he's just getting started as champion. But this is Wrestle Kingdom and he is facing Tanahashi, who I expect to win here because New Japan has new management and they reportedly see Tanahashi as their biggest and most marketable star. Both results have big implications.</p><p> </p><p> I also have to give them credit for the roster they've managed to build over the last four to five years. It wasn't that long ago that they were running Togi Makabe vs Bad Luck Fale in a featured match at Wrestle Kingdom and yet it's unimaginable now that such a match would ever make this card.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 <p>I completely skipped the tag league aside from watching the final night. That tournament is a slog to get through. They should remove the tag title at WK aspect from it, because having EVIL and SANADA go through that whole thing only for it to be turned into a three way is just a gigantic waste of time. </p><p> </p><p> I guess it's still not as bad as a couple of years ago when Yano and Ishii randomly got thrown into the title match because Yano stole the belts. At least the Bucks were former champions that never got their rematch, as they cited in their promo. That's better than the jr tag thing too, where Shingo and Bushi are getting thrown in because NJPW, like WWE, feels like they HAVE to get everyone on WK.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Final Countdown Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 If you're someone who normally skips 'Road to' shows, make sure to watch the Golden Lovers vs. Tanahashi/Ospreay main event from 12/15. I'd be pretty surprised if there are more than two or three matches at Wrestle Kingdom that are better than that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 <p>Didn't watch all the WK13 matches but I mostly enjoyed the ones I did. Main event was fantastic.</p><p> </p><p> Osprey vs Ibushi © - **** 1/2</p><p> ZSJ vs Ishii © - ****</p><p> Juice vs Cody © - ***</p><p> Ishimori vs Kushida © - *** 3/4</p><p> White vs Okada - **** 1/4</p><p> Naito vs Jericho © - **** 1/2</p><p> Tanahashi vs Omega © - *****</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Wrestle Kingdom was a pretty dang good show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 They just lost all of the Elite including Omega, KUSHIDA and probably Sanada. Will be interesting to see that happens next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Century Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="milamber" data-cite="milamber" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="40971" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>They just lost all of the Elite including Omega, KUSHIDA and probably Sanada. Will be interesting to see that happens next.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Sanada? I thought he was tag champs with Evil. Don't you mean Ibushi?</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Wrestling Century" data-cite="Wrestling Century" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="40971" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Sanada? I thought he was tag champs with Evil. Don't you mean Ibushi?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Sanada wants to go to WWE. That's why he went to TNA way back in the hopes of landing a contract but WWE didn't want him so he signed with New Japan. If WWE make a decent offer he's gone.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncrewed Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I want SANADA to stay in NJPW, but I completely understand why he'd want to go to WWE. I'd say he goes if he just kind of remains stagnant this year. He really needs to have a NEVER Openweight Title run or an IC Title feud to really show what he's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I just want Sanada to be successful. I've loved him since his TNA debut. Just screams "I should be a star" when you look at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookerman Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 <p>If you haven't done so already, go check out the Voices of Wrestling NJPW 2018 Year in Review. Finally started reading it last night and the essay about the Best Friends during the Tag League made me want to book some puro in TEW. It's pay what you want meaning it can be free, but the money paid goes to compensate the the various authors. It's over 1000 pages long.</p><p> </p><p> The breakdown of Tag League and Jr Tag League booking and what it says about how they may be pushed in the future is good stuff as well.</p><p> </p><p> <a href="https://www.voicesofwrestling.com/njpw18/" rel="external nofollow">https://www.voicesofwrestling.com/njpw18/</a></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhyme1234 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 <div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="52432238_1478653928934277_3329792847854436352_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_eui2=AeGuOv20YJ107GVH6hFg0KNaNIzRA0mZPjSAiatNZGglCPcxN5GWgh89XueXuwo8mFjrityMNuAdMmkiPCAelGUQsLKBTP0SzVBrv8M7rP44fg&_nc_ht=scontent.fdac19-1.fna&oh=1c2381e08ec0d6a79fa1c02853da0d36&oe=5CF27A85" data-src="https://scontent.fdac19-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52432238_1478653928934277_3329792847854436352_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_eui2=AeGuOv20YJ107GVH6hFg0KNaNIzRA0mZPjSAiatNZGglCPcxN5GWgh89XueXuwo8mFjrityMNuAdMmkiPCAelGUQsLKBTP0SzVBrv8M7rP44fg&_nc_ht=scontent.fdac19-1.fna&oh=1c2381e08ec0d6a79fa1c02853da0d36&oe=5CF27A85" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div><p></p><p></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGhost Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rhyme1234" data-cite="Rhyme1234" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="40971" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><div style="text-align:center;"><img alt="52432238_1478653928934277_3329792847854436352_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_eui2=AeGuOv20YJ107GVH6hFg0KNaNIzRA0mZPjSAiatNZGglCPcxN5GWgh89XueXuwo8mFjrityMNuAdMmkiPCAelGUQsLKBTP0SzVBrv8M7rP44fg&_nc_ht=scontent.fdac19-1.fna&oh=1c2381e08ec0d6a79fa1c02853da0d36&oe=5CF27A85" data-src="https://scontent.fdac19-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52432238_1478653928934277_3329792847854436352_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_eui2=AeGuOv20YJ107GVH6hFg0KNaNIzRA0mZPjSAiatNZGglCPcxN5GWgh89XueXuwo8mFjrityMNuAdMmkiPCAelGUQsLKBTP0SzVBrv8M7rP44fg&_nc_ht=scontent.fdac19-1.fna&oh=1c2381e08ec0d6a79fa1c02853da0d36&oe=5CF27A85" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div><p></p><p></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not sure where you were going with this, but NJPW is going to hurt for a while.</p><p> </p><p> Listen people can say what they want about Omega, The Bucks, and Cody, and all the Western guys who put eyeballs on NJPW.</p><p> </p><p> But the fact of the matter is, last year NJPW grew in leaps and bounds in the west because of those guys.</p><p> </p><p> Now I like Jay White and the current state of Bullet Club, but lets not kid ourselves, those departures hurt New Japan's chance of growing in the west at the pace they were growing.</p><p> </p><p> The MSG show with ROH was sold out when those guys were still on the roster, does that mean if tickets went on sale right now it wouldn't sell? Not really because it's Mania weekend and they would eventually fill it, but it wouldn't have sold out as quickly as it did.</p><p> </p><p> Honestly look for NJPW to ramp up the joint shows with ROH, both companies really do need each other right now, with AEW soon to be an actual threat before the end of the year is out, ROH and NJPW can't afford not to have one another.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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