phoxy Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 How do you think they gain spillover into other places. They've become so popular people from out of town are now driving to come to their shows. This is how you gain popularity in that region. If you gain popularity in a region because of a show - which you do every show you gain a percentage of your popularity gain in your spillover regions. Pennsylvania is in the Tri-State regions so you're popularity is 40% of your tri-state popularity in New England, The Mid Atlantic and The Great Lakes, and 20% in Ontario and Quebec. There for it means people hear about your shows in those places. They go do your shows, they like your shows, and therfor you count as being a part of the regional battle when you would reach the level for doing so there. To add to this, Ohio Resident: "I can either go to a show in Detroit or a show in Pittsburgh, they're both about the same distance, but I hear more good things about the PA show. I'll go to that one." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nection Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 How do you think they gain spillover into other places. They've become so popular people from out of town are now driving to come to their shows. This is how you gain popularity in that region. If you gain popularity in a region because of a show - which you do every show you gain a percentage of your popularity gain in your spillover regions. Pennsylvania is in the Tri-State regions so you're popularity is 40% of your tri-state popularity in New England, The Mid Atlantic and The Great Lakes, and 20% in Ontario and Quebec. There for it means people hear about your shows in those places. They go do your shows, they like your shows, and therfor you count as being a part of the regional battle when you would reach the level for doing so there. But here is the thing....most US regions are several states combined that are 5-6 hour drives apart. Most people are not driving that far to catch multiple shows a month. The only way I can see that they could possibly compare each other every month is they would have to be on some kind of mailing list where they receive dvd/blurays of every show. I'll give you an example of my current situation. I'm running a company based in the Great Lakes. There was 6 companies in my regional battle and only one of those companies has TV/performed in that region other than my company. I came in 5th place in that battle because the company with TV is severely outspending me in production (Awesome Max CV97). These other companies rarely run shows in the great lakes but factor into regional battles every single month. I understand word of mouth can be effective but this is a bit ridiculous. To add to this, Ohio Resident: "I can either go to a show in Detroit or a show in Pittsburgh, they're both about the same distance, but I hear more good things about the PA show. I'll go to that one." That should reflect attendance numbers not how well a company did "in this region." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Wolf Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 But here is the thing....most US regions are several states combined that are 5-6 hour drives apart. Most people are not driving that far to catch multiple shows a month. The only way I can see that they could possibly compare each other every month is they would have to be on some kind of mailing list where they receive dvd/blurays of every show. I'll give you an example of my current situation. I'm running a company based in the Great Lakes. There was 6 companies in my regional battle and only one of those companies has TV/performed in that region other than my company. I came in 5th place in that battle because the company with TV is severely outspending me in production (Awesome Max CV97). These other companies rarely run shows in the great lakes but factor into regional battles every single month. I understand word of mouth can be effective but this is a bit ridiculous. That should reflect attendance numbers not how well a company did "in this region." The game does not accurately reflect reality. It just doesn't and it can't. But the way the game works is if you are gaining pupularity in a region then you are in the regional battle. The game doesn't care if you are doing it by running shows there, by televising shows there, or by spilling over into the region. If you gain any sort of popularity in a region you are included in the regional battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nection Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 The game does not accurately reflect reality. It just doesn't and it can't. But the way the game works is if you are gaining popularity in a region then you are in the regional battle. The game doesn't care if you are doing it by running shows there, by televising shows there, or by spilling over into the region. If you gain any sort of popularity in a region you are included in the regional battle. But how can you have a system where they are "running the best shows in the region" if the shows in question are not being held in the region you are competing for. So when politicians give political speeches in Michigan but skip Pennsylvania (especially when that speech wasn't televised in Pennsylvania) should that politician gets credit for his work against the candidates that did give speeches in Pennsylvania? Ok an alternative to your logic would be that regional battles should take priority over shows that were actually run in the region before spillover takes into account. I'll give an example of my last months rankings...... 1# Dave, 2# RPW, 3#Awesome Max, 4# XFW, #5 HWF (this is mine) #6 PPPW If you go based on what shows had either run or had tv in this region than the rankings would be the following. 1# Awesome Max, 2# HWF, 3#Dave, 4#RPW, 5#XFW, 6#PPPW This would actually make more sense..... The game does not accurately reflect reality. I want to focus right here on this point you made. If we are playing a simulation game isn't the point of the simulation is to try to simulate the real life situation as accurately (and fun) as possible? If I played a toaster simulator but the toaster only accurately cooked wheat toast but couldn't toast bagels my defense of the game wouldn't be The game does not accurately reflect reality. It would be hey this game only gets it half right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingster Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 But how can you have a system where they are "running the best shows in the region" if the shows in question are not being held in the region you are competing for. So when politicians give political speeches in Michigan but skip Pennsylvania (especially when that speech wasn't televised in Pennsylvania) should that politician gets credit for his work against the candidates that did give speeches in Pennsylvania? Ok an alternative to your logic would be that regional battles should take priority over shows that were actually run in the region before spillover takes into account. I'll give an example of my last months rankings...... 1# Dave, 2# RPW, 3#Awesome Max, 4# XFW, #5 HWF (this is mine) #6 PPPW If you go based on what shows had either run or had tv in this region than the rankings would be the following. 1# Awesome Max, 2# HWF, 3#Dave, 4#RPW, 5#XFW, 6#PPPW This would actually make more sense..... I want to focus right here on this point you made. If we are playing a simulation game isn't the point of the simulation is to try to simulate the real life situation as accurately (and fun) as possible? If I played a toaster simulator but the toaster only accurately cooked wheat toast but couldn't toast bagels my defense of the game wouldn't be The game does not accurately reflect reality. It would be hey this game only gets it half right. How about you make that an official suggestion instead of having a useless discussion about it here? So, I remember seeing a post a long time ago explaining how the auto-push distributes push levels in rough percentages of the roster, but I can't for the life of me remember where or by whom. Does anyone remember those percentages (and/or know whether those still apply, as I believe that was for a previous version)? I think this is what you're looking for: http://www.greydogsoftware.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2222162&postcount=2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dloyeet29 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 So where would be the appropriate place to report an error in the title history of a title in the default database? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nection Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 How about you make that an official suggestion instead of having a useless discussion about it here? Well I wanted to have a dialogue on it first or my suggestion would have been this is dumb lets kill it like my original post suggested. I am going to put a suggestion in that forum but was looking for justification on why the feature is working like it currently is. A lot of times I've just thrown down suggestions without considering why the feature was there in the first place and it usually ends up with backlash. So where would be the appropriate place to report an error in the title history of a title in the default database? The tech support forum because the same guy handles both the original database and the game itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn michaels Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well I wanted to have a dialogue on it first or my suggestion would have been this is dumb lets kill it like my original post suggested. I am going to put a suggestion in that forum but was looking for justification on why the feature is working like it currently is. A lot of times I've just thrown down suggestions without considering why the feature was there in the first place and it usually ends up with backlash.<p> </p><p> </p><p> The tech support forum because the same guy handles both the original database and the game itself.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well it's gonna end up in backlash here, as you keep pilling the same questions when people already answered you how the game works and why it works that way. Yet, you keep insisting as if it was our fault or as if the game had the obligation to be perfect, which nothing is. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Not attacking you, man, just saying, your next step should be the ideas and suggestions topic, where it can be properly discussed.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Nection Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels 82" data-cite="shawn michaels 82" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well it's gonna end up in backlash here, as you keep pilling the same questions when people already answered you how the game works and why it works that way. Yet, you keep insisting as if it was our fault or as if the game had the obligation to be perfect, which nothing is. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Not attacking you, man, just saying, your next step should be the ideas and suggestion topic, where it can be properly discussed.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Already placed in suggestions. Was just looking for context before the suggestion. I'll just keep it there for now on. If I came off as aggressive it was not my intention as I couldn't wrap my head around how the current system was making sense to others and not me.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkn20 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels 82" data-cite="shawn michaels 82" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That's interesting. Never tried more than 3, iirc, hence why i said to not quote me. Do you have any penalties of running so many shows in one week? We are talking about TV and not events, right? Cause events are unlimited. If TV, are you having any penalties or are your grades doing well?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Good point, I am running 2 TV Shows and 2 / 3 events at the moment, so you can be absolutely right <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> My ratings are doing good like that, no issues, no penalties.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kijar Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 <p><span>http://tew2016.com/images/images/Mysterio.jpg</span></p><p> Thought about putting this in tech support but it simply isn't urgent.</p><p> This probably isn't normal right? I could've sworn when he popped up on the decision screen for failing another steroid test that I'd just recently suspended him.. but I did again, and now he is listed twice.</p><p> I am using the latest patch, cult size company, medium level drug policy, if any of that matters. I also have his checkbox ticked for auto-pushes, so is it possible this happened because even though he wasn't available, I had him listed with a push? I don't know, just seems silly. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Casey Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Already placed in suggestions. Was just looking for context before the suggestion. I'll just keep it there for now on. If I came off as aggressive it was not my intention as I couldn't wrap my head around how the current system was making sense to others and not me.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Fun =/= reality in this case. Adam has never claimed that TEW is a simulation of the real wrestling world; It represents a simplified version of the world focused on wrestling, and which allows you to benefit if you know how wrestling 'works'. But it <em>is</em> simplified, for a lot of reasons.</p><p> </p><p> America alone is something like 10 million km2 in area, and the contiguous states range in population density from New Jersey (470 people per km2) to Wyoming (2 people per km2). The game balances that out by having the states subsumed into 9 regions <em>roughly</em> analogous to those of the old territory system and by having word of mouth representing the spread of companies.</p><p> </p><p> Consider that, in the real world, ECW was the hottest indy around for 5 years, running as far afield as Louisiana and Florida on occasion, got upwards of 5,000 through the gate on occasion, but they were stuck at the 1,300 seat ECW Arena for TV and financially needed bailing out multiple times. Even allowing for their non-advertiser friendly product, ECW should have ridden all that positive critical reception to the top... but that's not how the real world works.</p><p> </p><p> And Ring of Honor have been running for 15 years, get rave reviews, and are still running the Hammerstein Ballroom for big events - I can't find a reference to them drawing even 5,000 for big shows. (There may be an argument that ROH aren't chasing expansion, but in TEW terms they'd be booming off 15 years of consistently high quality shows).</p><p> </p><p> The game is designed to make the Road to Glory type of games achievable. By optimising your product for growth, you can expand at a rate simply impossible to match in the real world, where factors like distance to the next state or city, overexposure in your home market, travel costs for workers and so on kick in much more intensely than in the game.</p><p> </p><p> One other point to consider is that overness isn't world popularity, it's <em>wrestling</em> popularity. Tommy Cornell may be the best-known wrestler on the planet, but he's not the best known man on the planet - every wrestling fan knows him (in the US and UK, at least) but that doesn't mean he'd get more fans coming to see him at Comicon than the new Avengers trailer or whatever.</p><p> </p><p> Wrestling popularity spreads through dedicated media exposure - websites, magazines, podcasts, newsletters... I was an ECW fan many years before I ever had a chance to see their shows, because they had no TV or video distribution deal in the UK in the mid-90s - but hearing about the Sandman blinding angle, or Sabu smashing tables, or the Public Enemy being buried under chairs... That piqued my interest. In the UK, I was part of the 2-3% of wrestling fans who were caught up in the spillover.</p><p> </p><p> To use a slightly different example, Mick Foley credits positive coverage in the Wrestling Observer of his performances as Cactus Jack with an upswing in his number of bookings. By getting his name out there, he made promoters more eager to book him as he was a more recognisable name.</p><p> </p><p> In game-terms, providing a lineal scale for overspill and expansion allows us to work the system and manage growth as we want it, rather than relying on a random 0.1% gain in Arkansas because some guys on a stag party came to see our show in Vegas.</p><p> </p><p> The game makes gaining popularity much simpler - No need to micro-manage travelling around the states (or whatever the equivalents are worldwide), no need to run 70 shows in California (pop. 39 million) to give the fans there the same chance to see you as the fans in Wyoming (pop. 585,000) or however these things are calculated. Run your shows, move around a bit, but mainly let the game handle a lot of the legwork for you.</p><p> </p><p> Anyway, bit of a rambling response, which can pretty much be summed up as the real world being less fun to play than TEW <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowmaster Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 <p>Tournament question</p><p> </p><p> I wanted to have a PPV that centers around a tag team or singles tournament. The WWF used to have one of these, think it was called King of the Ring. Anyway, is there anyway for me to do something like this with me just selecting the wrestlers and then the booker determines the matchups and winners of each match until a winner is crowned? I know if I did it I would have to set up each individual match and decide the winner and so on. Wasn't sure if their was a way to automate this.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrokenCycle Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowmaster Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BrokenCycle" data-cite="BrokenCycle" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Nope.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> LOL, short but simple answer. Now, the followup question. If I create this tournament and make the tournament title an alliance title, does that mean other leagues can hold this tournament as well. Basically, I wanted to invite the top contenders/champs from other alliance feds to this tournament.</p><p> I wasn't sure if I'd be better off making it my leagues title or an alliance title.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Casey Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 <p>You can't make an alliance title a tournament title - those can only be run by fixed promotions.</p><p> </p><p> You can, of course, make it your own title named after the alliance and make it an open field with different guest competitors each time it's run.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskander Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 How many title reigns does it take to get the string of the news item for a new one to register as happening for the "umpteenth" time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Casey Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 <p>Umpteen.</p><p> </p><p> What? <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> I've never seen that before - I had no idea it was a feature. I would guess it's more than 10 but I've never had a champion who's won one title anything like that many times. Interesting...</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LigerLiger Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="James Casey" data-cite="James Casey" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Umpteen.<p> </p><p> What? <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> I've never seen that before - I had no idea it was a feature. I would guess it's more than 10 but I've never had a champion who's won one title anything like that many times. Interesting...</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If it exists I bet it's an homage to Jerry Lawler. Guy won the Memphis title like 50 times.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkn20 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 <p>How do you Schedule a PPV event? I finally have a PPV Channel willing to negotiate with me, but when I go the TV Controls I can only create weekly TV Shows, and obviously I am not going to do a PPV event every week, so... How do I do it?</p><p> </p><p> Shall I create the TV Show and then select the options length 3 months, 1 episode, so it will be finished right after the episode? Or how does it work?</p><p> </p><p> Thanks in advance guys.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louis1016 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Schedule a regular event and you will be prompted to set your ppv broadcaster when you book it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowmaster Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 <p>Rating</p><p> </p><p> I keep getting the message in my matches that says Segment rating was penalized for the content risk being low. How do I fix this? I have checked my product Danger/Intensity and it is set at the highest % it says</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smw88 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shadowmaster" data-cite="shadowmaster" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I keep getting the message in my matches that says Segment rating was penalized for the content risk being low. How do I fix this? I have checked my product Danger/Intensity and it is set at the highest % it says</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You need to use match types with average or above content levels. I create custom match defaults to use with such ratings.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowmaster Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Thank you - I've never seen that one before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdaubs Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="smw88" data-cite="smw88" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You need to use match types with average or above content levels. I create custom match defaults to use with such ratings.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Related to that question, is there a way to have the intensity settings default by brand or match type? I have 3 brands now for SWF where 1 of them is a modern focused brand. I've created custom match types with average content levels but I'll sometimes forget the Intensity sliders as they default to the SWF defaults.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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