Small Questions Thread & "Living FAQ"

Dr. Hook · May 18, 2016

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="crownsy" data-cite="crownsy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> Any insights? am i just screwed by the regional battle that is the northeast? Edit: I am on patch 1.09 for what it's worth, though patching to it seems to have actually hurt the financial side even further. I had to dial back every production level to the lowest possible level, making it even harder to even get 3rd in the regional battle, and we still lose around 500-1000 bucks a month.</div></blockquote> It has to be the regional battle, as the effects are cumulative. The more you lose it, the worse the hit. There will come a point when you will level out on pop loss though, and your shows will then start gaining it back and you will make a comeback. When your industry and economy turn around you can hire better workers, and also, the time it takes will allow some of your workers to improve so you can compete in the regional battle better.

MainOffender · May 18, 2016

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Remianen" data-cite="Remianen" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> First off, if you got the impression I was angry or being aggressive or anything, I apologize for that. It wasn't the intent. I will also admit to the phrase 'working as intended' as used in common gaming parlance making my teeth itch. So again, sorry if that escaped its bottle. But in TEW13, it seemed infinitely easier to unlock psycho sermons (thus, fear/iron fist) than motivational speeches. Your tests would bear that out. I haven't had the opportunity to test it because my harmony preference coupled with Wrestler's Court and a dozen locker room leaders means that I don't see negative incidents much at all (I've had one in seven months so far, not including drug test failures who always get sent to rehab). In 13, I got great results overall from my post-show speeches since I never really criticized anyone (I'm a hugger).</div></blockquote> No worries! In 13, I was usually able to unlock Motivational Speeches within a few years, mostly through the Fatherly Approach with my stoners and positive speeches (I hug too -- and a lot of praise) and never came close to Psycho Sermons. This is totally a play style thing, though, and I never kept track of what I was doing. Without Fatherly Approach, it's looking like Take No Action is the best option for Velvet Glove -- this opens up a whole fun can of worms of workers walking all over nice guys like us. (Caveat: I haven't been able to send anyone to rehab yet, but I imagine that helps too.) I'd still like to figure out what each speech does, in inexact terms. I'll try keeping an eye on them and report back.

Grimes · May 18, 2016

I'm currently stuck with my created fed on Cult size (started on Local), the problem is that nobody is getting over. My Main Event guys drop in popularity and get stuck in the upper-midcard, my lower card guys won't get over regardless of what I do (Tag title wins, wins over upper-card guys I don't want to push).

I had two main eventers feud and once they both had a "Great" rating I ended the storyline, one of them dropped into the midcard and one of them dropped to the upper midcard. No idea what I'm doing wrong but it seems like I can't win with anything.

When I went from Regional to Cult I had six Main Event guys, now I have 2. The others are all stuck in the upper-midcard with ~60 pop.

Angles and Matches aren't doing great either, sometimes I'll get a 72-76 rating but its mostly in the 62-69 range.

Anyone able to help me out here? I'm rather new and don't understand what I'm doing wrong

crownsy · May 18, 2016

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Dr. Hook" data-cite="Dr. Hook" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It has to be the regional battle, as the effects are cumulative. The more you lose it, the worse the hit. There will come a point when you will level out on pop loss though, and your shows will then start gaining it back and you will make a comeback. When your industry and economy turn around you can hire better workers, and also, the time it takes will allow some of your workers to improve so you can compete in the regional battle better.</div></blockquote> Thanks for the advice, that is what I had feared, that I had locked myself into a pretty unwinnable battle. so I'm better off abandoning this save then, is what your saying, since I'm never going to be able to compete with companies one step below cult in that system. Maw and NYCW, in particular, might as well be the WWE compared to my company. I find it sort of asinine that a small company drawing 300 fans at this point is being destroyed for not being able to beat NYCW, MAW, and whatever the other one is monthly with essentially backyard wrestling level workers. Would think that there would be some sort of level of popularity you can reach before regional battles start to destroy you utterly. would be nice to be able to draw even 500 or 600 fans, so that our fiances can be stable, before I get dumpstered just by the AI running a "meh" show with higher quality workers.

Historian · May 18, 2016

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="crownsy" data-cite="crownsy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>asking this one again, because it is frustrating me to the point of giving up a save i enjoy.</div></blockquote> I would imagine it has a lot to do with being in a highly competitive region that you're not able to win (I almost always start my company in the Great Lakes or Mid South so I can be the only dog in the fight for awhile). It also may have something to do with the industry. I don't know how the wrestling industry is in your game, but if it is Falling, you may see a decline just because the industry as a whole is in a decline.

crownsy · May 18, 2016

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Historian" data-cite="Historian" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I would imagine it has a lot to do with being in a highly competitive region that you're not able to win (I almost always start my company in the Great Lakes or Mid South so I can be the only dog in the fight for awhile). It also may have something to do with the industry. I don't know how the wrestling industry is in your game, but if it is Falling, you may see a decline just because the industry as a whole is in a decline.</div></blockquote> yea, that's the conclusion i'm reaching. The Save was a potential diary, revolving around 4 people from my hometown (grew up on Cape Cod, MA) essentially doing a version of "the quest" by investing there 10K power ball winnings into a company they would run, so started it in the Northeast (specifically New England) for RP purposes. Sounds like this save either needs to be edited to be in a less competitive region, or restarted somewhere else.

Remianen · May 18, 2016

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="crownsy" data-cite="crownsy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Thanks for the advice, that is what I had feared, that I had locked myself into a pretty unwinnable battle. so I'm better off abandoning this save then, is what your saying, since I'm never going to be able to compete with companies one step below cult in that system. Maw and NYCW, in particular, might as well be the WWE compared to my company. I find it sort of asinine that a small company drawing 300 fans at this point is being destroyed for not being able to beat NYCW, MAW, and whatever the other one is monthly with essentially backyard wrestling level workers. Would think that there would be some sort of level of popularity you can reach before regional battles start to destroy you utterly. would be nice to be able to draw even 500 or 600 fans, so that our fiances can be stable, before I get dumpstered just by the AI running a "meh" show with higher quality workers.</div></blockquote> There's no such thing as an unwinnable battle in TEW. Some situations just might require more thought and planning to emerge from, but they're not impossible. Dr Hook's advice is completely on point. You CAN win the battle, you just can't do it RIGHT NOW. You just need some development, whether via roster changes, schedule changes, or simply patience. If you're based in the Tri-State, well, you were kinda asking for this. That area (the entire corridor, from New England all the way to the South East, counting spillover) is where a bunch of promotions are clustered, all around the same size. Now, combine the fact that two of them are in an alliance (and so don't affect each other in battles) and you'll see that all MAW and NYCW have to worry about.....is PSW (and you). That makes things MUCH easier for them. It's not impossible. It might just be your Kobayashi Maru. <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Historian" data-cite="Historian" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I would imagine it has a lot to do with being in a highly competitive region that you're not able to win (I almost always start my company in the Great Lakes or Mid South so I can be the only dog in the fight for awhile). It also may have something to do with the industry. I don't know how the wrestling industry is in your game, but if it is Falling, you may see a decline just because the industry as a whole is in a decline.</div></blockquote> See? That's a point of strategy. Where you set up shop can be important, especially if you're in the US. I'd say the Mid West is even better due to spillover but that's not that big a deal in the general scheme of things. Maybe try to join the COTT?

MaxxHexx · May 18, 2016

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="crownsy" data-cite="crownsy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>yea, that's the conclusion i'm reaching. The Save was a potential diary, revolving around 4 people from my hometown (grew up on Cape Cod, MA) essentially doing a version of "the quest" by investing there 10K power ball winnings into a company they would run, so started it in the Northeast (specifically New England) for RP purposes. Sounds like this save either needs to be edited to be in a less competitive region, or restarted somewhere else.</div></blockquote> I'm facing the same challenge, started in the Pacific North West and as I am nearing the threshold to be in the regional battle I am trying to figure out a plan to be able to stand up to AAA and CZCW as a local company with no cash. I like the Kobayashi Maru comparison.

crownsy · May 18, 2016

Thanks Remi

I just don't think it's going to be viable. I don't want to be stuck drawing 300 people, clearly outdoing my pop number, and still losing fans and money for years at a time. not that it would even be a concern with this game, i have everything at bare bones and am going to be out of money in 14 months max.

I am a member of the COTT for what it's worth. Still get the notice that I finish last or 3/4 every month. doesn't seem to have affected anything other than now i could attempt to bring in guys i can't afford to pay for my shows.

I guess i knew i was asking for this on some level, but figured the game would allow me to get to some respectable small level before dumpstering me for not being able to keep up with other far bigger companies. There isn't much fun to be had in that scenario for RP purposes. I expected to have to struggle of course, just not to maintain small vs. local popularity putting on D- to D shows.

As a Real World example, Big Time Pro wrestling draws around 300-600 fans locally here in New England. That's what i was shooting for as a starting point for this company.

I've never heard of BTPW losing fans because other bigger promotions exist elsewhere in the northeast.They aren't thought of on the same level as those other "regional" promotions, and i find it somewhat comical they would be considered in competition with anyone other than small promotions at that size. They are what they are, a small company in the Northeast. I don't think on any planet they consider themselves in a "regional battle" for the hearts and souls of fans on a monthly basis.

Just seems like the regional battle should be harsh for companies that are you know, regional. not something that crushes small companies with limited pop in one market.

Historian · May 18, 2016

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="crownsy" data-cite="crownsy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> As a Real World example, Big Time Pro wrestling draws around 300-600 fans locally here in New England. That's what i was shooting for as a starting point for this company. I've never heard of BTPW losing fans because other bigger promotions exist elsewhere in the northeast.They aren't thought of on the same level as those other "regional" promotions, and i find it somewhat comical they would be considered in competition with anyone other than small promotions at that size. They are what they are, a small company in the Northeast. I don't think on any planet they consider themselves in a "regional battle" for the hearts and souls of fans on a monthly basis. Just seems like the regional battle should be harsh for companies that are you know, regional. not something that crushes small companies with limited pop in one market.</div></blockquote> To take your real world example, I've lived in four states, gone to independent wrestling shows in all four of those states plus the surrounding states, have attended in my life at least 2000 live wrestling shows of various sizes. I can tell you that regional battles do, very much, have a play in real life. Let's say you live in a moderate market like an Indianapolis, for instance (I used to live there, so I'm very familiar with its wrestling scene at one point). There were easily five or six companies that ran in or in the immediate surroundings of Indianapolis at one point. They were all locked in a battle with each other. Companies that draw well, due so because they have A: the more popular workers and B: the more popular shows. So it does matter that the bigger promotions have bigger workers. You could continue to be small and exist at 300 people and keep drawing that, because it may be that that's all you can do right now based off the popularity of your guys. There's nothing to be ashamed of there. Think about it like this, if you live in a market where there are three competing wrestling companies. Company A brings in Rey Mysterio to work on a show as well as a couple of other 'indy' names like a Ricochet, a Matt Sydal or a Mike Elgin. Company B has no Rey Mysterio but they bring in two guys with indy cred like Timothy Thatcher and ACH. Company C on the other hand only has local talent that has no real name value and isn't going to really draw new people. Company A is going to continue to win the battle, draw more people and potentially keep people from going to company C. If there are 1500 people in a market that are willing to go to an Indy show, the vast majority are going to go to company A because they have the names. A good majority will go to company B because they have some names they've read about or seen on Youtube. Your diehards are going to go to company C because they'll go to everything or they're friends of the workers or whatever. Company C will draw more when they either A: bring in more guys or B: produce shows that are so much better than the competitions or C: Have a production value that blows everyone else out of the water. I'm sympathetic to the feeling that you're being crushed, but this game isn't easy. You have to have patience to build, to figure out how to get ahead of the curve, etc. That's what gives it such immersion and replayability.

Dr. Hook · May 18, 2016

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="crownsy" data-cite="crownsy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> I've never heard of BTPW losing fans because other bigger promotions exist elsewhere in the northeast.They aren't thought of on the same level as those other "regional" promotions, and i find it somewhat comical they would be considered in competition with anyone other than small promotions at that size. They are what they are, a small company in the Northeast. I don't think on any planet they consider themselves in a "regional battle" for the hearts and souls of fans on a monthly basis. Just seems like the regional battle should be harsh for companies that are you know, regional. not something that crushes small companies with limited pop in one market.</div></blockquote> In your example vs TEW the main difference is attendance numbers. In TEW terms BTPW probably puts out shows equal to its popularity- fans get what they expect and nothing more. In your case, you are trying to grow your company and get better. To replicate BTPW, you would probably need to get to F popularity, and just put out F shows- entertaining for the 100 fans that show up but not likely to go any further. Because this is a game, and there is a goal to what you are doing, like trying to put together good shows, grow, win regional battles, you are taking yourself out of the realm of a local company that is content to remain local with its steady, loyal, but static fan base. Anyway, if you aren't having fun, then of course don't bother, but what Remi and I were both saying to you is that you *can* get to where you want with your company, but it takes time. For me, that is one of the great attractions of TEW, but I accept it may not be everyone's cup of tea. I do want to encourage you to stick to it though, not least because you've invested some time, energy, and emotion in the save already <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

crownsy · May 18, 2016

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Historian" data-cite="Historian" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>To take your real world example, I've lived in four states, gone to independent wrestling shows in all four of those states plus the surrounding states, have attended in my life at least 2000 live wrestling shows of various sizes. I can tell you that regional battles do, very much, have a play in real life. Let's say you live in a moderate market like an Indianapolis, for instance (I used to live there, so I'm very familiar with its wrestling scene at one point). There were easily five or six companies that ran in or in the immediate surroundings of Indianapolis at one point. They were all locked in a battle with each other. Companies that draw well, due so because they have A: the more popular workers and B: the more popular shows. So it does matter that the bigger promotions have bigger workers. You could continue to be small and exist at 300 people and keep drawing that, because it may be that that's all you can do right now based off the popularity of your guys. There's nothing to be ashamed of there. Think about it like this, if you live in a market where there are three competing wrestling companies. Company A brings in Rey Mysterio to work on a show as well as a couple of other 'indy' names like a Ricochet, a Matt Sydal or a Mike Elgin. Company B has no Rey Mysterio but they bring in two guys with indy cred like Timothy Thatcher and ACH. Company C on the other hand only has local talent that has no real name value and isn't going to really draw new people. Company A is going to continue to win the battle, draw more people and potentially keep people from going to company C. If there are 1500 people in a market that are willing to go to an Indy show, the vast majority are going to go to company A because they have the names. A good majority will go to company B because they have some names they've read about or seen on Youtube. Your diehards are going to go to company C because they'll go to everything or they're friends of the workers or whatever. Company C will draw more when they either A: bring in more guys or B: produce shows that are so much better than the competitions or C: Have a production value that blows everyone else out of the water. I'm sympathetic to the feeling that you're being crushed, but this game isn't easy. You have to have patience to build, to figure out how to get ahead of the curve, etc. That's what gives it such immersion and replayability.</div></blockquote> I get all of that, I really do. I still think it's comical that because MAW and NYCW exist, as much bigger companies, that I lose on average 100 fans a month for putting on a very successful show. I am not asking for a hand out, or for the game to be easy. I understand the draw of the game. What I am saying is that I don't think a company who is consistently being told by the game "good job, you killed it!" at every show I run should be in the process of going from a small promotion drawing around 750 people to a bankrupt promotion that can barley draw 300 people in under a year. What i am saying is the regional battles are weighted wrong, not that they shouldn't exist. I just find it somewhat unrealistic that me, a company that wouldn't even register on 2 out of the 4 companies radar involved in the regional battle is destroyed by me just putting on a well received show. I would get it if we were struggling to put on a decent show, but I am slaughtering my Pop on these grades. There should be some sort of "floor" to the battles. I could see Maw and others keeping me from starting to really draw, since we would be in competition with them once we got to that level. The fact that I can't maintain small and am going to drop to local with 20 fans just because other companies exist in the universe is my problem, not that there shouldn't be a significant hurdle to go from "small time local fed with a couple hundred people" to "drawing 1000+ people" /vent over.

d12345 · May 18, 2016

Does the Brawl skill play a role when using the match aim 'wild brawl?'

Kingster · May 18, 2016

So, the sausage fest penalty. Has anyone ever come across this? Running USPW, a national company with mainstream as a key feature, I don't think I I've seen a penalty for not using women on my shows nor have I seen a warning that I don't have enough women booked.

Historian · May 18, 2016

Does the Brawl skill play a role when using the match aim 'wild brawl?'

Yes it does.

Historian · May 18, 2016

So, the sausage fest penalty. Has anyone ever come across this? Running USPW, a national company with mainstream as a key feature, I don't think I I've seen a penalty for not using women on my shows nor have I seen a warning that I don't have enough women booked.

I got it once -- but I have a lot of female managers who are always booked when their workers are on.

Tussinewa · May 18, 2016

So, the sausage fest penalty. Has anyone ever come across this? Running USPW, a national company with mainstream as a key feature, I don't think I I've seen a penalty for not using women on my shows nor have I seen a warning that I don't have enough women booked.

The only time it seems to matter is if your risque is high.

crownsy · May 18, 2016

ok, so going to alter this dynasty idea and restart it. This time going to have a slight story telling alteration. quick question:

What is a existing C-verse thread that does not currently have a TV deal, but with decent booking, could grow to the point where they could get one in a few years, in each region? (NA, Europe, Japan)

Andrew2436 · May 18, 2016

Playing a WWF 94 game and at the start WCW and ECW lost all their TV deals. I'm assuming the way the mod and dates were set up. Any reason why the companies aren't attempting to get tv deals in game?

lazorbeak · May 18, 2016

Has anyone else run into this issue where touring companies appear to be losing money across the board, in every country? I'm not sure if it's travel costs, the lowered attendances, the higher expenses or what, but in tests I'm running, every AI promotion running tours is operating at a loss. A cult promotion running three 2K shows and a 10-15K event in a month, along with PPV, has lost about four million dollars in two years of play-through. A national promotion has lost even more, going from ten million dollars to debt in two years.

Has anybody else noticed this and is there a fix? Do touring expenses just need to be lowered across the board? And are workers being paid travel expenses for every tour show they work?

awesomenrh · May 18, 2016

Did workers starting their own dojo happen in TEW2013?

Dr. Hook · May 18, 2016

The only time it seems to matter is if your risque is high.

It's not solely risque because my product has it at none, but still requires 1 female for every 20 male wrestlers (so, really, it isn't that hard to avoid). One part is mainstream- if you have it at heavy, you need 1 for 30, key feature it becomes 1 for 20. If I put Lucha Libre to Key, the ratio drops to 1 to 15, if then add Risque to Key, the ratio becomes 1 to 8. I played around with various combos, and it seems to be these four that create the sausage fest rules.

marsupial311 · May 19, 2016

Did workers starting their own dojo happen in TEW2013?

It happened in TEW2010 so I'm sure it did.

pantaloons · May 19, 2016

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Andrew2436" data-cite="Andrew2436" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41194" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Playing a WWF 94 game and at the start WCW and ECW lost all their TV deals. I'm assuming the way the mod and dates were set up. Any reason why the companies aren't attempting to get tv deals in game?</div></blockquote> Did you convert a a TEW13 mod? You may need to change some broadcasters to keep them from losing their TV right away. That may also be why they can't get new deals.

Lex Star · May 19, 2016

Does anyone know how many dojo graduates one could expect if set to 'Extremely High' I want to get some graduates at a somewhat consistent pace, but don't necessarily want to spam the world with new workers.

Also, what is the difference between General and Basic training? Is General training just the catch-all option which can lead to lots of different dojo gens? I am Key Mainstream and Traditional with Modern at Medium, I'd think General or Basic would be the best option? I haven't played with dojos before really, so I'm not sure what type of workers you could expect from say Physical Training.

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