soxfan93 Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="justtxyank" data-cite="justtxyank" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I am working on a 92 mod and he will be in it.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> First I'm hearing about this!</p><p> </p><p> So 1992 we have Flair winning the title at the Rumble and the botched Flair/Hogan situation. Not entirely sure what was going on elsewhere, so I'm really looking forward to this, as I can learn a LOT! <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cultstatus Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="soxfan93" data-cite="soxfan93" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>First I'm hearing about this!<p> </p><p> So 1992 we have Flair winning the title at the Rumble and the botched Flair/Hogan situation. Not entirely sure what was going on elsewhere, so I'm really looking forward to this, as I can learn a LOT! <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Right in the middle of the Dangerous Alliance angle in WCW.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan93 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Right in the middle of the Dangerous Alliance angle in WCW. Oh right, the best collection of talent in wrestling history. My favorite stable ever! Excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tizzyt Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Oh right, the best collection of talent in wrestling history. My favorite stable ever! Excited. Excuse me.... However, the York Foundation was the greatest stable ever.... a business man with a mullet? Are you kidding me? PURE GOLD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermillionShift Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Playability matters to me. As for Rocky Maivia being a WWF owned name, I don't know the reality of their trademark on that, but the way I looked at it was that Rocky Maivia is simply a combination of his father's ring name and his grandfather's ring name, neither of which he WWF owns. I don't think they could actually enforce a copyright claim on Rocky Maivia at all. I agree on keeping him as Rocky Maivia, but just to shed a little light on how copyright law works it doesn't matter if they owned his father or grandfather's ring names at all. When it comes to copyrights, you can apply and be given the rights to virtually anything in that specified usage. Hence why despite WWE not having a copyright over Dusty Rhodes, they DO have an active copyright over the name "Cody Rhodes." This despite it being his real name fused with part of his father's ring name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan93 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="tizzyt" data-cite="tizzyt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Excuse me.... However, the York Foundation was the greatest stable ever.... a business man with a mullet? Are you kidding me? PURE GOLD!</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Business in the front, Southern Justice in the back.</p><p> </p><p> It works because WCW.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genadi Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="soxfan93" data-cite="soxfan93" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Business in the front, Southern Justice in the back.<p> </p><p> It works because WCW.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You're on fire tonight sox <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan93 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Genadi" data-cite="Genadi" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You're on fire tonight sox <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I got an ample amount of sleep. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justtxyank Posted June 29, 2016 Author Share Posted June 29, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="VermillionShift" data-cite="VermillionShift" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I agree on keeping him as Rocky Maivia, but just to shed a little light on how copyright law works it doesn't matter if they owned his father or grandfather's ring names at all. When it comes to copyrights, you can apply and be given the rights to virtually anything in that specified usage. Hence why despite WWE not having a copyright over Dusty Rhodes, they DO have an active copyright over the name "Cody Rhodes." This despite it being his real name fused with part of his father's ring name. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's not that simple though.</p><p> </p><p> First of all, Rocky Maivia is a name I could legit seeing The Rock having used if he never went to WWF. It's a logical name for anyone who wants to push him to the moon as a third generation star.</p><p> </p><p> Secondly, wrestlers have the ability to dispute copyright claims. </p><p> </p><p> Thirdly, while many want absolute realism, I'm not a huge fan of bringing copyright issues into TEW. Most people who play this game for example will use The Undertaker as The Undertaker in whatever promotion he's in.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan93 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="justtxyank" data-cite="justtxyank" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Thirdly, while many want absolute realism, I'm not a huge fan of bringing copyright issues into TEW. Most people who play this game for example will use The Undertaker as The Undertaker in whatever promotion he's in.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I know I do. If it's WCW, I want Sting vs. The Undertaker, not Sting vs. Mean Mark Callous.</p><p> </p><p> Although I have used Mean Mark before. I made him a star, basically giving him the Big Evil gimmick.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justtxyank Posted June 29, 2016 Author Share Posted June 29, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="soxfan93" data-cite="soxfan93" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I know I do. If it's WCW, I want Sting vs. The Undertaker, not Sting vs. Mean Mark Callous.<p> </p><p> Although I have used Mean Mark before. I made him a star, basically giving him the Big Evil gimmick.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've done both as well and I've used Triple H as Triple H in WCW. </p><p> </p><p> I go case by case honestly and that's how I do it in the mod. I know that's not how all mod makers do it, but that's cool.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattywood Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="justtxyank" data-cite="justtxyank" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've done both as well and I've used Triple H as Triple H in WCW. <p> </p><p> I go case by case honestly and that's how I do it in the mod. I know that's not how all mod makers do it, but that's cool.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Case by case is a great way to go. For example, I have Undertaker listed as Mark Calaway in Risky Business because the data starts in January 1985, before the Undertaker character was even a thought in anyone's head. However, in Young Guns, he'll be named the Undertaker. I guess I could list him as Mark Callous in Risky, though.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan93 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="justtxyank" data-cite="justtxyank" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've done both as well and I've used Triple H as Triple H in WCW. <p> </p><p> I go case by case honestly and that's how I do it in the mod. I know that's not how all mod makers do it, but that's cool.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Exactly. I don't care who owns the rights in the real world, I want Triple H, The Rock, etc. Hell, he may not be The Undertaker's brother, but Kane is Kane.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cultstatus Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="justtxyank" data-cite="justtxyank" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I've done both as well and I've used Triple H as Triple H in WCW. <p> </p><p> I go case by case honestly and that's how I do it in the mod. I know that's not how all mod makers do it, but that's cool.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If I'm playing as WCW in 91 and I sign Scott Hall, I'll use the Razor gimmick. But if he was already using that in WWF and then I get him? I won't. For me it's the best of both worlds, a little bit of realism and a little bit of creative freedom.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwhippy Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 I'm more of a realist. That's why I always pass up on Triple H if I'm WCW because I'm compelled to use a Levesque alter-ego and that just sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatedRKO16 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mrwhippy" data-cite="mrwhippy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm more of a realist. That's why I always pass up on Triple H if I'm WCW because I'm compelled to use a Levesque alter-ego and that just sucked.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You could give him a new alter-ego or make the Levesque gimmick work.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cultstatus" data-cite="cultstatus" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If I'm playing as WCW in 91 and I sign Scott Hall, I'll use the Razor gimmick. But if he was already using that in WWF and then I get him? I won't. For me it's the best of both worlds, a little bit of realism and a little bit of creative freedom.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm mostly like this as well. I could never, ever sign The Undertaker as WCW and use him by that name (unless it was a company takeover, that is).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan James Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Loving this mod. Thank you very much. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwhippy Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RatedRKO16" data-cite="RatedRKO16" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You could give him a new alter-ego or make the Levesque gimmick work.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It just looks wrong though if I call him something entirely different. I've just signed Moose in my current save and I twisted giving <em>him</em> a random name.</p><p> </p><p> Plus no-one can make that Levesque gimmick a legitimate main eventer...</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cultstatus Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mrwhippy" data-cite="mrwhippy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It just looks wrong though if I call him something entirely different. I've just signed Moose in my current save and I twisted giving <em>him</em> a random name.<p> </p><p> Plus no-one can make that Levesque gimmick a legitimate main eventer...</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> His WCW gimmick wasn't much different than his original HHH gimmick. You could easily evolve it in your game like it was in real life.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwhippy Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 I suppose, I've just never been able to land on a non-WWF/E name that I can go with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatedRKO16 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mrwhippy" data-cite="mrwhippy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I suppose, I've just never been able to land on a non-WWF/E name that I can go with.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hunter Levesque</p><p> </p><p> Idk. I agree though. Jean-Paul is a pretty weak name. Levesque isn't that bad, imo. Just have to come up with a good first name.</p><p> </p><p> Could always call him Terra Ryzing.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makkaveli101 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cultstatus" data-cite="cultstatus" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If I'm playing as WCW in 91 and I sign Scott Hall, I'll use the Razor gimmick. But if he was already using that in WWF and then I get him? I won't. For me it's the best of both worlds, a little bit of realism and a little bit of creative freedom.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I do agree. In my save, I've just signed Ax and Smash of Demolition for my WCW. I can't bring myself to call them "Demolition"...so I've resurrected the "Master Blasters" gimmick for them, as the next best thing.</p><p> </p><p> The same goes for when I sign "The Big Bossman"...although I love that character - I have to give him his "Big Bubba Rogers" NWA/WCW alter ego. I can't even bring myself to give him his shortlived "The Boss" character...as I know the WWF vetoed that as well after a few weeks. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> It just ruins the immersion for me.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Monk Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Makkaveli101" data-cite="Makkaveli101" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I do agree. In my save, I've just signed Ax and Smash of Demolition for my WCW. I can't bring myself to call them "Demolition"...so I've resurrected the "Master Blasters" gimmick for them, as the next best thing.<p> </p><p> The same goes for when I sign "The Big Bossman"...although I love that character - I have to give him his "Big Bubba Rogers" NWA/WCW alter ego. I can't even bring myself to give him his shortlived "The Boss" character...as I know the WWF vetoed that as well after a few weeks. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> It just ruins the immersion for me.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I always keep Demolition as Demolition, but then they were my favourite team back in the day and in TEW are my go to team.</p><p> As far as Bossman goes I either go along the lines of some Police name or I use The War Machine</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="RatedRKO16" data-cite="RatedRKO16" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Jean-Paul is a pretty weak name. Levesque isn't that bad, imo. Just have to come up with a good first name.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Jean-Paul Levesque could work, he just need a new gimmick. Give him an MMA gimmick and model his character on Georges St-Pierre.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Makkaveli101" data-cite="Makkaveli101" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="41820" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I do agree. In my save, I've just signed Ax and Smash of Demolition for my WCW. I can't bring myself to call them "Demolition"...so I've resurrected the "Master Blasters" gimmick for them, as the next best thing.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I brought them in as <em>Destruction</em> in my last game.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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