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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Derek, I feel council members should be people that don't go out doing anything terribly important at night. With that I've revealed a bit about myself, and I actually would like to see you on the council with me. Do you go out at night? I would understand if you're not willing to answer this so quickly but you have been forthcoming so far. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hey, a question <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><span style="color:#FF0000;"><strong>I can choose to do something at night</strong></span>. Nothing too exciting, so even if I can't use the ability due to being on the council it won't hurt us for that. Another reason I put myself forward. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> A note to all the people who keep nominating more people... remember that <span style="text-decoration:underline;"><strong>we can't change out council nominations</strong></span>. We're spreading things thinly already and if we don't have enough people in then there's a chance we're going to end up with just one person on the council. I know it's early, but because we don't know fully how it works I want to see three people on there. Even if it isn't me. Spread it out, minimise the risk of potential downsides for the collective good. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Derek, you didn't really answer my question. You bounced around the question a bit. However, I agree that we need one direction so whilst I still want to hear from cappyboy I can follow this for now.<p> </p><p> <span style="color:#FF0000;"><strong>CHANGE VOTE: EddieFnG</strong></span></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I gave you an exact answer to the question you asked, with more information than you actually asked for. That's a mark in the scum column for you.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Derek, you didn't really answer my question. You bounced around the question a bit. However, I agree that we need one direction so whilst I still want to hear from cappyboy I can follow this for now.<p> </p><p> <span style="color:#FF0000;"><strong>CHANGE VOTE: EddieFnG</strong></span></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hey Destiny, he who wants to answer questions clearly and fully. Are you blue town?</p>
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<p><strong>It is now Day 1. You have until 9:00pm EDT (1:00am GMT) on Tuesday, May 28th to make nominations and vote on lynches.</strong></p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Nominations</span></strong></p><p>

<strong><em>Destiny: 3 (eayragt, Destiny, Memory of Talon)</em></strong></p><p>

Derek B: 1 (Derek B)</p><p>

Rayalek: 1 (Rayelek)</p><p>

lukess11: 1 (lukess11)</p><p>

Bluestar: 1 (Eternal Phoenix)</p><p>

Rabbitman: 1 (Tha Black Phenom)</p><p>

Memory of Talon: 1 (Leion)</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Lynch</span></strong></p><p>

Destiny: 1 (eayragt)</p><p>

Bluestar: 1 (Eternal Phoenix)</p><p>

Tha Black Phenom: 1 (Too Sweet Spartan)</p><p>

Memory of Talon: 1 (Leion)</p><p>

EddieFnG: 3 (Derek B, Rayelek, Destiny)</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I gave you an exact answer to the question you asked, with more information than you actually asked for. That's a mark in the scum column for you.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Fair enough mate. Maybe I'm being a little pedantic but to me you saying you can choose to do something at night isn't the same as answering whether or not you specifically go out. I didn't ask if you had an ability or not.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="eayragt" data-cite="eayragt" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Hey Destiny, he who wants to answer questions clearly and fully. Are you blue town?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's a good question. It's important to be clear with each other. I am blue town. I am Effingham Heights Aligned. Your turn. Are you Effingham Heights Aligned?</p>
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<p>IER, I just realised the time zones for UK (presumably) is an hour off and should be 2am. At this moment it's 08:27 in US Eastern time and 13:27 in the UK timezone, which is 1 hour ahead of GMT due to British Summer Time.</p><p> </p><p>

I with the world would stop with various summer times, they are no longer necessary. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That's a good question. It's important to be clear with each other. I am blue town. I am Effingham Heights Aligned. Your turn. Are you Effingham Heights Aligned?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yes I am. I you want to tomorrow, feel free to remember who got you your place on the board today when thinking about who you're nominating <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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Oh, and the actual point of that message was to point out that we have about 12 hours left of this phase. I won't be online at the very end of the phase as I'll be in bed, but if we are doing anything council related or lynch related we had better hop to it in the not distant future as most people would, I guess, only have one more period of being online in this phase.
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>IER, I just realised the time zones for UK (presumably) is an hour off and should be 2am. At this moment it's 08:27 in US Eastern time and 13:27 in the UK timezone, which is 1 hour ahead of GMT due to British Summer Time.<p> </p><p> I with the world would stop with various summer times, they are no longer necessary. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Think of the people in Iceland! </p><p> </p><p> No, it's been 10 years since I got too invested in the argument, I'm stepping away...</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Tha Black Phenom" data-cite="Tha Black Phenom" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><span style="color:#008000;"><strong>Nominate: Rabbitman</strong></span><p> </p><p> Because he said it wouldn't be wise to.</p><p> </p><p> I do like to live dangerously, and in seriousness that does earn a bit of my trust, of course not completely but we gotta start somewhere. There are others I do trust but am still waiting to hear/see more from them to go forward.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't. <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Leion" data-cite="Leion" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well, it took me a while to wake up since I went out last night. As for the game. <p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> As for now, I am comfortable with Destiny on the council, but not so warm to the fact you are the only one on it. But I don't feel I could trust anybody that nominated themselves for the council. Just seems scummy to me. So I will put forth someone that can lead the town well if they are town</p><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#008000;"><strong>nominate: Memory of Talon</strong></span></p><p> </p><p> If not, then I will leave this here as well. </p><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#FF0000;"><strong>vote: Memory of Talon</strong></span></p><p> </p><p> Which one are you?</p></div></blockquote><p> Not sure I understand this policy of voting for players for the council and for lynch in the same post. These are supposed to be players you trust are they not?</p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#008000;">Second:Memory of Talon</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote: cappyboy</span></strong></p>
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<p>Do you mean like... Kerry Katona and all the other mums? <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

I know the feeling about arguing stuff like that... but for the sake of mafia, it's handy to have easy to reference times and most of the forums are UK and US folks so it's been fairly standard to have UK times and one of the US timezones listed. No worries it being others, I just like to make sure our collective admin stuff is sorted out. I'm probably better at note taking and admin than I am at actually hunting scum these days. But that never stops me trying. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

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<p><strong>It is now Day 1. You have until 9:00pm EDT (2:00am GMT) on Tuesday, May 28th to make nominations and vote on lynches.</strong></p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Nominations</span></strong></p><p>

<strong><em>Destiny: 3 (eayragt, Destiny, Memory of Talon)</em></strong></p><p>

Derek B: 1 (Derek B)</p><p>

Rayalek: 1 (Rayelek)</p><p>

lukess11: 1 (lukess11)</p><p>

Bluestar: 1 (Eternal Phoenix)</p><p>

Rabbitman: 1 (Tha Black Phenom)</p><p>

Memory of Talon: 2 (Leion, Eliphas)</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Lynch</span></strong></p><p>

Destiny: 1 (eayragt)</p><p>

Bluestar: 1 (Eternal Phoenix)</p><p>

Tha Black Phenom: 1 (Too Sweet Spartan)</p><p>

Memory of Talon: 1 (Leion)</p><p>

EddieFnG: 3 (Derek B, Rayelek, Destiny)</p><p>

cappyboy: 1 (Eliphas)</p>

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<p>For the record, since I tossed away my nomination before thoroughly reading the rules, I like the current noms of Talon and Derek. If I would nominate Eliphas.</p><p> </p><p>

I'm not a big fan of all the people talking about their night abilities so voluntarily. Makes it easier for the scum to suss out what's what.</p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Eliphas why did you wait for me to change my vote from cappyboy to put your vote on? Seems a bit strange.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> What's strange about it? I just signed on and caught up. What you did has no bearing on me atp.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rayelek" data-cite="Rayelek" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>For the record, since I tossed away my nomination before thoroughly reading the rules, I like the current noms of Talon and Derek. If I<strong> could I</strong> would nominate Eliphas.<p> </p><p> I'm not a big fan of all the people talking about their night abilities so voluntarily. Makes it easier for the scum to suss out what's what.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> EBWOP</p>
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<p>Doing my go back to the start thing.</p><p> </p><p> -I didn't mind the back and forth discussion of the nominations/council thing. Seemed like a natural thing to do considering the unique set up. I don't think it was particularly scummy either way, theorizing that scum would/wouldn't want to be on the council.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Or it would be a way to gain early control of the flow of the game/thread. I don't have to be correct. Just pointed out that it pinged me. No need to get defensive.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Eliphas suggesting Destiny was being defensive seemed a bit weird, don't know how they read it like that really.</p><p> </p><p> -I notice DJ getting involved more already. I like this as we know what happened last game when he was Mr Silent. </p><p> </p><p> -Gee Destiny really wants this council position.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Biggest thing for me is that we don't want to rush the council stuff most day phases. If we nominate someone and then they start acting super scummy (or info comes out about them), I've essentially wasted my vote and advanced scum's agenda. That isn't as big a deal day phase one, obviously. Just more of a perspective for future day phases.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Thought that was solid advice and something we need to take in mind for sure.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You also cannot discount the inherent desire for self preservation</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Especially early Emark I could see people wanting it kind of like that green arrow power used night 1 last game. Get the power and use it before you die and can no longer make a contribution.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Rayalek come out the box scummy, SO he's probably not scum.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> DJ, what came off about Rayalek. I get that you're erring on the side of them being not scum but what exactly threw you off about them? Still feel that way about them now?</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm going to sleep now but before I do that I'm going to go ahead and place a vote and Vote: Rabbitman.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I get to my first vote of the game, quickly retracted. No issues with Destiny on that really. Noticing Destiny really getting into this game, wanting the responsibility and trying to prod some inactives. Definitely could do worse than this Destiny being on the council.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Nominate: Rabbitman<p> </p><p> Because he said it wouldn't be wise to.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I got a council vote? <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Well obviously if I ever got the honor I'd do my best. Nice to see you get on during this time TBP.</p><p> </p><p> I notice Eddie G getting votes. I don't know his GDS mafia history but I sure as hell know the guy's EWB mafia history. He crumbles under pressure easily. I actually once went on to win a game mvp award after a day 1 meltdown got him lynched instead of me.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="FellaLibby" data-cite="FellaLibby" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><span style="color:#2E8B57;"><strong>Nominate: Memory of Talon</strong></span><p><span style="color:#2E8B57;"> </span></p><p> Also could someone please explain the wagon on Eddie? I just woke up. *coffee in hand*</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Derek's vote was inactivity. My vote was to break the tie with all the other 1 votes, because on a tie there's no lynch. Destiny's... was pressure, I think? Not clear.</p>
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<p>For people throwing nominations out... please read the rules about how to vote for council members. You are putting out things that aren't being counted because you're not following the format correctly.</p><p> </p><p>

I've seen enough thing go wrong that I will be around to be a town pedant who makes sure that even when we make mistakes, we'll do them with the right format. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eliphas" data-cite="Eliphas" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Not sure I understand this policy of voting for players for the council and for lynch in the same post. These are supposed to be players you trust are they not?</p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#008000;">Second:Memory of Talon</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Vote: cappyboy</span></strong></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The vote on Talon, is sort of a half joke, half serious kind of thing. I do want to trust him upfront, but I would be foolish if I did. But the joke part is kinda moot since he hasn't showed up since. It might become a serious vote if that keeps up.</p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rabbitman" data-cite="Rabbitman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Doing my go back to the start thing.<p> </p><p> -I didn't mind the back and forth discussion of the nominations/council thing. Seemed like a natural thing to do considering the unique set up. I don't think it was particularly scummy either way, theorizing that scum would/wouldn't want to be on the council.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Eliphas suggesting Destiny was being defensive seemed a bit weird, don't know how they read it like that really.</p><p> </p><p> -I notice DJ getting involved more already. I like this as we know what happened last game when he was Mr Silent. </p><p> </p><p> -Gee Destiny really wants this council position.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Thought that was solid advice and something we need to take in mind for sure.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Especially early Emark I could see people wanting it kind of like that green arrow power used night 1 last game. Get the power and use it before you die and can no longer make a contribution.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> DJ, what came off about Rayalek. I get that you're erring on the side of them being not scum but what exactly threw you off about them? Still feel that way about them now?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I get to my first vote of the game, quickly retracted. No issues with Destiny on that really. Noticing Destiny really getting into this game, wanting the responsibility and trying to prod some inactives. Definitely could do worse than this Destiny being on the council.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> I got a council vote? <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Well obviously if I ever got the honor I'd do my best. Nice to see you get on during this time TBP.</p><p> </p><p> I notice Eddie G getting votes. I don't know his GDS mafia history but I sure as hell know the guy's EWB mafia history. He crumbles under pressure easily. I actually once went on to win a game mvp award after a day 1 meltdown got him lynched instead of me.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Hmmm, you won't disappear again after you post this very long message like last game? Would you?</p>
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<p>Hey everybody. Finally here. Wasn't aware the game had started. And with the overlong weekend we finally got out of, my brain was elsewhere. Gotten read up and not finding anyplace to put either of my votes just yet. Too many typical Grey Dog joke moves and self-noms that feel like they are focused on the novelty on being Council members. </p><p> </p><p>

I'd be willing to serve on Council if really wanted but I'm not going to be campaigning for it any time soon. Honestly, I'd be amazed if I had that kind of respect in the community. Will help in any way I can though and the sooner a course of action presents itself the better I'll like it. Got run out of my last game for trying to wait out the nonsense our Day 1's tend to be.</p>

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<p>First off, <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Unvote</span></strong> since TBP showed up. </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Zergon" data-cite="Zergon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><span style="text-decoration:underline;">TSS Quote</span><p> As for council, I counted 8 that had said they would want to be in it and of those I´m currently thinking of either MLT or you being the ones I would be most comfortable voting on but I´m going to wait after work until putting my vote in (assuming that the three spots haven´t already been filled by then).</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Second off, I appreciate that but at this point in the day phase, it doesn't benefit us to add in another option and lose another person that could be helping ensure things are on the up and up.</p><p> </p><p> I feel like I'm having trouble trusting a lot of people at the moment. And because of that, I think I'm going to turn back to the people who I had a ton of confidence in my last game. Until any of us have reason to think it is a bad idea... I'm putting my faith in the Clarke Pirates.</p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#008000;">Second: Lukess11</span></strong></p>
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<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="FellaLibby" data-cite="FellaLibby" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><span style="color:#2E8B57;"><strong>Nominate: Memory of Talon</strong></span><p><span style="color:#2E8B57;"> </span></p><p> Also could someone please explain the wagon on Eddie? I just woke up. *coffee in hand*</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>First off, <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Unvote</span></strong> since TBP showed up. <p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Joining Derek in his pedantry, Libby, you'd have to Third Talon, and TSS, this is your regular reminder that we dont use Unvote around here <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>
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