Effingham Heights: A Game of Homes Mafia Game Thread

[Too Sweet Spartan]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rayelek" data-cite="Rayelek" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Joining Derek in his pedantry, Libby, you'd have to Third Talon, and TSS, this is your regular reminder that we dont use Unvote around here <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> ...Well, if anything, at least I'm consistent. </p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Change Vote: No Vote</span></strong></p>

[FellaLibby]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rayelek" data-cite="Rayelek" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Joining Derek in his pedantry, Libby, you'd have to Third Talon, and TSS, this is your regular reminder that we dont use Unvote around here <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I regret nothing!</p>

[djthefunkchris]

<p>There are several I'm considering. Derek I felt was the obvious way to go until someone pointed out that being on the council does nothing to guarantee any safety. I'm torn between Eliphas and MoT, and Derek at this point. If I could I would nominate all three, maybe even adding lukes to that list just because he's been playing great lately.</p><p> </p><p>

So... instead of complicating things I'm going to go with my first choice.</p><p> </p><p>

</p><p><strong><span style="color:#008000;">

Second: Derek B</span></strong></p><p> </p><p>

I don't believe I seen a second yet. Just in case I missed it.</p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="color:#008000;">Third: Derek B</span></strong></p><p> </p><p>

I was supposed to go to work two hours ago, but was asked to come in later, so I won't be around for end of phase.</p>

[Zergon]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>First off, <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Unvote</span></strong> since TBP showed up. <p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Second off, I appreciate that but at this point in the day phase, it doesn't benefit us to add in another option and lose another person that could be helping ensure things are on the up and up.</p><p> </p><p> I feel like I'm having trouble trusting a lot of people at the moment. And because of that, I think I'm going to turn back to the people who I had a ton of confidence in my last game. Until any of us have reason to think it is a bad idea... I'm putting my faith in the Clarke Pirates.</p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#008000;">Second: Lukess11</span></strong></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> There´s still about half of players who haven´t put their votes on anyone so there´s plenty of chances to get the other two members (or one once Libby fixes his vote) into council but I do agree that we want three members into it so I´m going to hold my vote for now and see if it´s needed to push third member into council later.</p>

[i effin rule]

<p><strong>It is now Day 1. You have until 9:00pm EDT (2:00am GMT) on Tuesday, May 28th to make nominations and vote on lynches.</strong></p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Nominations</span></strong></p><p>

<strong><em>Destiny: 3 (eayragt, Destiny, Memory of Talon)</em></strong></p><p>

Derek B: 2 (Derek B, djthefunkchris)</p><p>

Rayalek: 1 (Rayelek)</p><p>

lukess11: 2 (lukess11, Too Sweet Spartan)</p><p>

Bluestar: 1 (Eternal Phoenix)</p><p>

Rabbitman: 1 (Tha Black Phenom)</p><p>

Memory of Talon: 2 (Leion, Eliphas)</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Lynch</span></strong></p><p>

Destiny: 1 (eayragt)</p><p>

Bluestar: 1 (Eternal Phoenix)</p><p>

Memory of Talon: 1 (Leion)</p><p>

EddieFnG: 3 (Derek B, Rayelek, Destiny)</p><p>

cappyboy: 1 (Eliphas)</p>

[Emark]

<p>I was toying with a couple of avenues so,</p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="color:#006400;">Third: Derek B</span></strong> </p><p> </p><p>

Feels like a good addition to the council.</p>

[i effin rule]

<p><strong>It is now Day 1. You have until 9:00pm EDT (2:00am GMT) on Tuesday, May 28th to make nominations and vote on lynches.</strong></p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Nominations</span></strong></p><p>

<strong><em>Destiny: 3 (eayragt, Destiny, Memory of Talon)</em></strong></p><p>

<strong><em>Derek B: 3 (Derek B, djthefunkchris, Emark)</em></strong></p><p>

Rayalek: 1 (Rayelek)</p><p>

lukess11: 2 (lukess11, Too Sweet Spartan)</p><p>

Bluestar: 1 (Eternal Phoenix)</p><p>

Rabbitman: 1 (Tha Black Phenom)</p><p>

Memory of Talon: 2 (Leion, Eliphas)</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Lynch</span></strong></p><p>

Destiny: 1 (eayragt)</p><p>

Bluestar: 1 (Eternal Phoenix)</p><p>

Memory of Talon: 1 (Leion)</p><p>

EddieFnG: 3 (Derek B, Rayelek, Destiny)</p><p>

cappyboy: 1 (Eliphas)</p>

[Derek B]

<p>Thank you for the nominations guys, I promise I won't let the secret underground military base release all of their nukes to destroy us all. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

I hope EddieFnG shows up and says something, because I'm not a typical Day 1 lyncher. But when activity matters, it's good to have people being active now in the hopes that long term things will go as they should. After all the nurses in Sunset, I promise to make sure we all get the drugs we need.... though I doubt that's what the Council are going to be doing. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[FellaLibby]

<p>I was trying to be real with my vote for Talon, so.</p><p> </p><p>

<span style="color:#2E8B57;"><strong>Third: Memory of Talon</strong></span></p>

[FellaLibby]

I also don't have a vote for now but I may before the day is over.

[i effin rule]

<p><strong>It is now Day 1. You have until 9:00pm EDT (2:00am GMT) on Tuesday, May 28th to make nominations and vote on lynches.</strong></p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Nominations</span></strong></p><p>

<strong><em>Destiny: 3 (eayragt, Destiny, Memory of Talon)</em></strong></p><p>

<strong><em>Derek B: 3 (Derek B, djthefunkchris, Emark)</em></strong></p><p>

Rayalek: 1 (Rayelek)</p><p>

lukess11: 2 (lukess11, Too Sweet Spartan)</p><p>

Bluestar: 1 (Eternal Phoenix)</p><p>

Rabbitman: 1 (Tha Black Phenom)</p><p>

<strong><em>Memory of Talon: 3 (Leion, Eliphas, FellaLibby)</em></strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Lynch</span></strong></p><p>

Destiny: 1 (eayragt)</p><p>

Bluestar: 1 (Eternal Phoenix)</p><p>

Memory of Talon: 1 (Leion)</p><p>

EddieFnG: 3 (Derek B, Rayelek, Destiny)</p><p>

cappyboy: 1 (Eliphas)</p>

[Teh_Showtime]

<p>Well it looks like we have our three</p><p> </p><p>

I was coming in here most likely to second bluestar but this is a fine trio I’d say.</p>

[cappyboy]

Okay. So we have our council. And it looks like the most reasonable lynch right now is the one on Eddie. But I'm not prepared to vote a guy out who may have just made the same mistake I made of failing to check earlier. If he continues to be inactive as phases pile up, fine. But for now, I will be giving benefit of the doubt as a matter of consistency. It's not like my ballot is needed to achieve a lynch as things stand.

[Derek B]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="cappyboy" data-cite="cappyboy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Okay. So we have our council. And it looks like the most reasonable lynch right now is the one on Eddie. But I'm not prepared to vote a guy out who may have just made the same mistake I made of failing to check earlier. If he continues to be inactive as phases pile up, fine. But for now, I will be giving benefit of the doubt as a matter of consistency. It's not like my ballot is needed to achieve a lynch as things stand.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Indeed. If he shows up, I intend to remove my vote and put it on No Lynch as a safety measure. That is, unless we get another direction worth looking at in the near future. I have my eye on a couple of people, but now is not the time to ask them questions.</p>

[Too Sweet Spartan]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Indeed. If he shows up, I intend to remove my vote and put it on No Lynch as a safety measure. That is, unless we get another direction worth looking at in the near future. I have my eye on a couple of people, but now is not the time to ask them questions.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Questions or not, I think your reads would be helpful if you're willing to share.</p>

[Destiny]

I'd also like to know Derek's leads but I sort of understand his reasoning for holding off for now. How about you TSS? Any strong leads thus far?

[Derek B]

It's too early for me to say what I'm thinking. I don't want to potentially colour anyone else's views with the limited hunches I have so far. Happy to revisit in the next day phase though, things should become more clear by then.

[Destiny]

What makes you so sure things will be clearer tomorrow? Nevertheless, it's good to have you on the council with me. Who would have thought years ago that I would be voted onto a council in one of these games, even if one vote was from myself and the other was essentially an accident. I hope you are willing to work with me, we remember what happened last time we played together. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" />

[Too Sweet Spartan]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It's too early for me to say what I'm thinking. I don't want to potentially colour anyone else's views with the limited hunches I have so far. Happy to revisit in the next day phase though, things should become more clear by then.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Understandable. No reason to push and potentially blow something up you're working on or noticing.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'd also like to know Derek's leads but I sort of understand his reasoning for holding off for now. How about you TSS? Any strong leads thus far?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Strong would be a large overstatement.</p><p> </p><p> But I'll throw some names out there and see what happens with rocking the boat.</p><p> </p><p> <span style="text-decoration:underline;">FellaLibby -</span> I feel a small link potentially between FellaLibby and MoT. MoT's 3 council votes came a lot quicker than the other 2 and I can't yet tell what to make of that. Is it because the day phase is ending tonight? Or was there actually some scum stuff at play. Way too early to know but if MoT ends up flipping scum at some point, I'd have to turn my eyes to their 3 voters but mostly FellaLibby.</p><p> <span style="text-decoration:underline;">DJ -</span> I don't like quiet DJ. He was quiet last game when he was scum. He's talkative as hell in games I've played with him as town. Honestly through discord talks since that point (but before this game obviously), I think he's just kind of been in a funk since Clarke and needs to get his groove back. But for now, I'll say that I enjoy when DJ tries to be town leader whether he's successful at it or not.</p><p> <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Council Members -</span> I'm not sure how the council will work. The first post says council members can't speak outside of the thread. So I'm guessing that the proposals will be listed with the "it is now night phase" post and the 3 council people will have to talk and vote on it. I'm not sure if the rest of us are allowed to talk too and just not vote, or if we got to be quiet about it. But mainly, I'll be looking to see if any proposals seem to offer a clear benefit and if anyone tries to downplay/disregard it. Whether it is town or scum that's on the council, I'm hoping we can apply some pressure to ensure all 3 of you act in town's best interest.</p>

[eayragt]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What makes you so sure things will be clearer tomorrow? </div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well, in an ideal world we'd study vote patterns. So you can analyse this:</p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color:#FF0000;">Change vote: EddieFnG</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> Wait... what? How did my phone autopredict the last 2 letters of your username? Have we played together before? You've only got about 3 hours to come on and explain that, then I'll move the vote.</p>

[Zergon]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Destiny" data-cite="Destiny" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What makes you so sure things will be clearer tomorrow? Nevertheless, it's good to have you on the council with me. Who would have thought years ago that I would be voted onto a council in one of these games, even if one vote was from myself and the other was essentially an accident. I hope you are willing to work with me, we remember what happened last time we played together. <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I mean, night 1 usually gives us some ideas what to expect, no?</p>

[i effin rule]

<p><strong>It is now Day 1. You have until 9:00pm EDT (2:00am GMT) on Tuesday, May 28th to make nominations and vote on lynches.</strong></p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Nominations</span></strong></p><p>

<strong><em>Destiny: 3 (eayragt, Destiny, Memory of Talon)</em></strong></p><p>

<strong><em>Derek B: 3 (Derek B, djthefunkchris, Emark)</em></strong></p><p>

Rayalek: 1 (Rayelek)</p><p>

lukess11: 2 (lukess11, Too Sweet Spartan)</p><p>

Bluestar: 1 (Eternal Phoenix)</p><p>

Rabbitman: 1 (Tha Black Phenom)</p><p>

<strong><em>Memory of Talon: 3 (Leion, Eliphas, FellaLibby)</em></strong></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>

<strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">Lynch</span></strong></p><p>

Bluestar: 1 (Eternal Phoenix)</p><p>

Memory of Talon: 1 (Leion)</p><p>

EddieFnG: 4 (Derek B, Rayelek, Destiny, eayragt)</p><p>

cappyboy: 1 (Eliphas)</p>

[FellaLibby]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Too Sweet Spartan" data-cite="Too Sweet Spartan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Understandable. No reason to push and potentially blow something up you're working on or noticing.<p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> Strong would be a large overstatement.</p><p> </p><p> But I'll throw some names out there and see what happens with rocking the boat.</p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="text-decoration:underline;">FellaLibby -</span></strong> I feel a small link potentially between FellaLibby and MoT. MoT's 3 council votes came a lot quicker than the other 2 and I can't yet tell what to make of that. Is it because the day phase is ending tonight? Or was there actually some scum stuff at play. Way too early to know but if MoT ends up flipping scum at some point, I'd have to turn my eyes to their 3 voters but mostly FellaLibby.</p><p> <span style="text-decoration:underline;">DJ -</span> I don't like quiet DJ. He was quiet last game when he was scum. He's talkative as hell in games I've played with him as town. Honestly through discord talks since that point (but before this game obviously), I think he's just kind of been in a funk since Clarke and needs to get his groove back. But for now, I'll say that I enjoy when DJ tries to be town leader whether he's successful at it or not.</p><p> <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Council Members -</span> I'm not sure how the council will work. The first post says council members can't speak outside of the thread. So I'm guessing that the proposals will be listed with the "it is now night phase" post and the 3 council people will have to talk and vote on it. I'm not sure if the rest of us are allowed to talk too and just not vote, or if we got to be quiet about it. But mainly, I'll be looking to see if any proposals seem to offer a clear benefit and if anyone tries to downplay/disregard it. Whether it is town or scum that's on the council, I'm hoping we can apply some pressure to ensure all 3 of you act in town's best interest.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So you wanna know why I voted MoT to the council as opposed to Derek and Destiny? Truth is, MoT didn't self nominate. And I wanna stress I won't vote councils who wish themselves. While I don't think its scummy to do that, I just think its a selfless to be voted by the community at large and those who trust in you. I'm not partnered with Talon in any way. I'm just a guy who likes to give food.</p>

[Too Sweet Spartan]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="FellaLibby" data-cite="FellaLibby" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So you wanna know why I voted MoT to the council as opposed to Derek and Destiny? Truth is, MoT didn't self nominate. And I wanna stress I won't vote councils who wish themselves. While I don't think its scummy to do that, I just think its a selfless to be voted by the community at large and those who trust in you. I'm not partnered with Talon in any way.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> /nod. If that's the truth of the situation, I respect that.</p><p> </p><p> Like I tried to emphasize in my response to Destiny, I'm really not at the point where I'm proclaiming anyone scum yet. I'm just trying to find other notable takeaways for this day phase that could help us in the middle and end of the game.</p>

[Derek B]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="FellaLibby" data-cite="FellaLibby" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46676" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>So you wanna know why I voted MoT to the council as opposed to Derek and Destiny? Truth is, MoT didn't self nominate. And I wanna stress I won't vote councils who wish themselves. While I don't think its scummy to do that, I just think its a selfless to be voted by the community at large and those who trust in you. I'm not partnered with Talon in any way. I'm just a guy who likes to give food.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I've got no issues with the basis of that logic. But to counter that argument... this is a mafia game. Unless you are grouped with someone, everyone else could be your enemy. Is the safest bet to vote for yourself because you know you are on your side. You can't say the same about anyone else.</p><p> </p><p> That said.... risk = reward. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>