Cverse 2020 predictions

[tryker2710]

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[Tew101]

I have been lurking here reading this, and the favorite things I saw so far. I cant wait til 4/23 to finally play. I wish we'd get write ups on Cverse or something to like build up the hype til then. A company by company breakdown or something.

 

-USPW is top company taking a lot of different top stars from SWF & TCW. Champagne Lover joining them with Reveries growth would be very cool.

 

-TCW starting a women's division but falling in overall popularity/level. Jay Chord is like mid 90s HBK, great talent and top star but just miserable to be around.

 

-An AEW like company in British Isles, 21CW will be unchallenged top dog. Wolf Hawkins joins 21CW.

 

-Jack Bruce is either retired or semi retired. SWF investigation flops.

 

-The dissolution of hardcore wrestling, so many companies are hardcore focused in Cverse, but not that really many competitors.

[Markw]

I can see drastic changes in the presentation of both USPW and TCW. It feels to me like USPW will need to move away from the product it's known for, and start appealing to the 18-35 demographic that (I believe?) subscription networks tend to target. As well as adjusting it's presentation from being incredibly US focused to being something international (it feels a bit ridiculous that with that name, and those event names they've gotten as big as they have in Canada and Mexico). At the same time you've got TCW, who've felt very much like the smart fan/adult/nerd's company, owned by a toy company who are probably going to want to appeal first and foremost to kids, with larger than life colourful characters. I'd love to see both a million miles away from what previously made them unique and struggling with their identities. I think it'd be easiest for USPW because, frankly, they've got the deepest pockets and will probably have a lot of the biggest 'superstars' tied up by now. A move like that from TCW could be catastrophic as they lose some of their fanbase, fail to compete for a new one, and maybe even end up fighting the deep pockets of IPW in their home region. They're both really interestingly poised in 2016.

 

I know it's blasphemy, but I'd just like SWF to be gone now. I'd love to see a seismic change like that, most likely a USPW brand split, and the rest of that talent pool being dispersed across the depth of interesting smaller US promotions. Let the Eisens get what the McMahon's deserve. And I think it could make sense, they're going to be pretty lost when Bruce surely hangs up his boots, Lullaby could work, Richard's health could deteriorate, USPW could just come in with an offer he decides is worth taking. It could easily have happened in four years and wrong though it feels, a large part of me hopes it has.

 

I think overall I just hope the Cornellverse world isn't supporting so many large promotions any more. Wrestling seems unbelievably popular just about everywhere apart from mainland Europe, and it has been for, in my view, too long. It feels unsustainable, particularly for their to be so many successful promotions across the world. Personally I'd love to see an expanded (and likely rebranded) USPW on an expanded Reverie network, dominating across much of the world, and most of SWF, TCW, NOTBPW, CGC, SOTBPW, 21CW & RAW either struggling to compete, or having thrown in the towel already. I'd rather a game world that feels believable than one that has a major promotion for anybody and everybody.

[brianc2008]

Some predictions:

 

1. Will agree that women's wrestling will see a resurgence. I'd expect TCW will partner with a women's company to do a division and maybe even SWF to start a division in developmentals to prepare for its own division.

 

2. USPW is still on top, but thanks to the growth of egos, I suspect it won't be the easiest to run in 2020. SWF has taken a ding thanks to Lullaby, but it's still in second place. TCW has hit bottom and is on its way back up thanks to strong storylines and a couple of newcomers (perhaps KC Glenn).

 

3. Japanese company decides to place an developmental/spinoff company in Hawaii.

 

4. An AEW type company launches in England and proves to be a strong number two to 21CW.

 

5. India will remind me of Australia in 2016 with one company doing well and two others struggling.

 

6. PSW and NYCW are gone. In its place is a new company that is gaining some strength in the Tri-State region.

[DAVEFAN95]

- Is USPW still the #1 fed?

 

Well, when I predict this, I usually look at the Main Event of each company and the talent they have to replace them, let's start with USPW. Four of their six main eventers are over 40 with two over 45 and two more on 44. They do have Nicky Champion and Steve Frehley, so they'll still be going strong in 2020. They do have Rick Law and Trent Schaffer in their upper midcard, so they could fill the void if some of their ME's retire (James Justice and Tyson Baine most likely). Casey Valentine and Joss Thompson could also fill in as main eventers if they needed, so yeah, USPW have they ability to fill their losses without stealing but lets be honest, they probably will steal one or two talents, they could also get Ross Henry to help out too.

 

SWF have 7 of their 8 main eventers in their 40's but most of them will still be around in 2020. Three of them are over 45 (Crippler, DeBones and Bruce) so they'll need to replace them as at least Bruce and DeBones will be a part timer. Unlike USPW, who have only a few options, SWF have a wealth of options to replace their aging main event stars. Joey Morgan, Val, The Bumfholes, Captain Atomic, The Awesomeness and Mikey Lau, course some of those will have to bulk up. That being said with USPW about they might not have some of them.

 

TCW actually have a much brighter future. Three of their seven main eventers are in their 40's in 2020, 49 and 48 respectively, RDJ and Bryan Vessey will surely be done while Sammy Bach will still only be 41, so will still have a few years left surely. Andrews, Taylor, Golden and Wolf will all be still in their prime, so will be shiny object for other companies to try and steal. They do have Jay Chord, Mighty Mo, Freddy Huggins, Edd Stone and Matt Hocking available to fill the retirement holes but if they get raided, it could be a rough few years for TCW.

 

In conclusion, USPW should still be number one. With their roster, and financial power, USPW should be going nowhere in terms of their hold on the number one spot.

[BoredomTM]

USPW can't be anything but number 1 due to having global coverage and unlimited pockets of money, which is why, at this point, I'd really rather have them shut down. If you think about it, it'd be the closure to their tale, from regional in 2004/05, to cult in 2007/08, national in 2010, to just about taking TCW over in 2013/14, and finally, becoming number 1 in 2016. That, or them transcending the Earth and becoming an universal wrestling company.

 

On the more realistic notes, I wonder what'll come of SWF and TCW. SWF has a potential power struggle happening between Jerry and Eric, as Richard's retirement draws close. There is a lot that could potentially happening here, such as Eric doing an hostile takeover that doesn't go down well with the locker room; Jerry getting tired of his brother and showing him the door; Eric breaking away into TCW or even starting his own company with Peter Michaels; or, the more likely route, Jerry is the owner and Eric has creative control, and the locker room is really toxic. Their main event scene will be undeniably different, with only Remo, Angry Gilmore, and Joey Morgan remaining. The key for SWF here is that they have so much good talent that they've refused to push for so long, that they might've taken their chips elsewhere. Valiant and the Bumfholes being the biggest examples. Even Angry Gilmore only got his well deserved title run because of them being raided by USPW. We'll either see guys like Valiant, Des Davids, the Bumfhole brothers finally get their pushes, or they taking their chips elsewhere.

 

TCW is more likely than not going to be in a better place by 2020, I don't get the doomsayers. The main problem they had in the past was money, which was solved by being taken over by BriCo. If anything, chances are they take over SWF at long last, due to a highly successful toy line. I can see Rocky Golden either leaving for USPW or SWF, becoming the highest paid wrestler on the planet in the process, and Wolf Hawkins promptly taking his place as the figurehead. I say we'll have one surprising main eventer in the company, after getting wildly popular due to his high selling action figures; could be someone like Benny Benson, Freddy Huggins, or maybe even an outsider. Jay Chord and Mighty Mo should've cracked the main event by now, and they might've even gotten a steal over SWF who has gone on to become huge for them; prime candidates being Valiant and the Bumfholes, mentioned above.

 

I could see another major player ascending in the US, honestly. Could be someone like CZCW with proper financial backing, Eric Eisen and/or Peter Michaels opening their own promotion after leaving SWF, or someone new taking a shot. I wonder where Ross Henry went, if he's signed for one of the big 3, if he's settled for the indies, or even if he lasted a whole 6 months before retiring and going Hollywood (would be really funny, considering we waited 14 years to see what he's up to, only to have him be gone already).

 

Canada, I wonder if we'll see 4C finally surpass CGC, and if NOTBPW finally change their stupid name (Looking at you too, SOTBPW).

 

I really hope to see a revolution in the british scene, like many of you have said. After 21CW going WWE and destroying wrestling in Europe, seeing a major player in the region, even if at cult level, providing competition would be a nice change of pace. Plus, given 21CW's absolutely bloated roster, I could see unhappy guys wanting to leave where they actually get chances.

 

Another place I really want to see what it's like is Japan; the impact the tsunami had probably led to places like SAISHO closing, while others like PGHW might be in grave financial troubles. BHOTWG should be back to their regular schedule after major fan backlash (and well the fact touring companies are actually viable in 2020), but other than that, I expect them to still be top dog. Matthew Keith probably turned into their lead gaijin threat, and is currently in a feud with his old partner Tatsuya Toshitara for the championship.

 

PGHW seems impossible to be in a bad place, especially with a new golden generation brewing; Seiji Jimbo, Bussho Makiguchi, and Chojiro Kitoaji should all have gotten to the main event by now, and Kozue Kawashima, Masaru Ugaki, and Tetsunori Yasuda will all be in their primes. However, it'll be really weird seeing them without Mushashibo, Kunomasu, or Koiso, just like when Tatsuko and Inukai retired in 2016.

[tambourin81]

I really hope that there will be more female workers all over the place, not just in USPW and NOTBPW. A new women's only promotion outside the US or Japan would be great. Perhaps a new generation of talented joshi workers debuts in 5SSW.

 

It would also be cool if, with the restrictions on women's divisions lifted, USPW's women's division finally got equal billing with the males.

[shawn michaels]

Prediction: SWF

 

Expectations: Back on #1!!!

 

Reality: In a bigger turmoil and barely hanging to top 5.

[Capelli King]

Interesting what your predictions will be about India? In theory, there is nothing in the game to give us a clue (because India was not in the game and there is no workers from there).

 

What is also interesting about India is what type or promotions will function there? Mainstream? I know very little about the Indian scene in real life (maybe because it does not exist?)

 

I actually tried to find out something about Indian Wrestling, but besides some vague details about a WWE style promotion called Continental Wrestling Entertainment (which i am not sure even has a website), and a few workers who passed through WWE (such as the Khali who sucked), i am not sure India actually has a real wrestling scene TEW can go by, so i guess it will be interesting.

 

I am predicting a few smaller companies and the scene will be something similar to what we have in Europe.

[shawn michaels]

Interesting what your predictions will be about India? In theory, there is nothing in the game to give us a clue (because India was not in the game and there is no workers from there).

 

What is also interesting about India is what type or promotions will function there? Mainstream? I know very little about the Indian scene in real life (maybe because it does not exist?)

 

I actually tried to find out something about Indian Wrestling, but besides some vague details about a WWE style promotion called Continental Wrestling Entertainment (which i am not sure even has a website), and a few workers who passed through WWE (such as the Khali who sucked), i am not sure India actually has a real wrestling scene TEW can go by, so i guess it will be interesting.

 

I am predicting a few smaller companies and the scene will be something similar to what we have in Europe.

 

Original Australia wasteland seems to be the consensus for predictions. I'd say it would fit.

[awesomenessofme1]

I'd be surprised if the whopping one Indian wrestler in the database didn't have some impact. Maybe he's the first one to start a promotion there?

[Capelli King]

Original Australia wasteland seems to be the consensus for predictions. I'd say it would fit.

 

Yeah, that is what i think. Lots of low level quality guys and maybe a couple of promotions, small/regional level at most.

[TEWFan]

I have been lurking for a while so let's see my predictions.

 

- USPW will have changed their product a little bit, but not as much as some people here want. I picture a group of former SWF or TCW guys banding together to create a now-style invasion. USPW will have also purchased a smaller company, maybe NYCW, who is now their developmental fed and has a show on Reverie, similar to the nXt/WWE Network relationship.

 

- TCW has fallen more and is an ROH-sized workrate first fed.

 

- The SWF has also fallen in hard times due to the Lullaby investigation and has fallen in size. It has a mixture of oddball characters and former indy talents trying to make it, similar to the WWF post steroids scandal. Think WWF 1995 bad. Yet it has a few future superstars that will give a clean path for them to raise back to the top in a couple of years.

 

- 21CW is also smaller now, with the British folk rebelling a little bit against their more sports entertainment like product. I see a group of smaller, workrate first feds emerging to challenge it.

 

- RAW is the first company to always use 100% cinematic matches as their shows are 90% angles and 10% wrestling.

[Chikbot]

Alright, I know you're all using Adam's personal taste in not being into hardcore wrestling as an idea that PSW would get shut down. However, if anything, I expect more at least one of the west coast companies(GSW and IPW) get shut down due to prison time and such, I can imagine a "Rob Black/Messiah" esque incident where someone gets threatened and almost murdered, turns to the feds and either one of those companies gets shut down.

 

Though, with Game Changer Wrestling being a thing, PSW could get some East Coast competition....

[Capelli King]

 

- RAW is the first company to always use 100% cinematic matches as their shows are 90% angles and 10% wrestling.

 

This is another thing we did not consider, which companies will have more cinematic products, i think India will be the experimental ground for that.

[cappyboy]

This is another thing we did not consider, which companies will have more cinematic products, i think India will be the experimental ground for that.

 

Wouldn't surprise me. Bollywood is the only film industry outside of the U.S. I know of to have a one word name it goes by. For there to be a Bollywood Wrestling Alliance that goes wild with the cinematic side of the sport sounds like a natural confluence.

[WCGreyghost]

My fearless prognostication:

 

1) Ricky Dale Johnson retires from the ring but finds a new career doing color commentary.

 

2) Sammy Bach retired due to injury.

 

3) TCW gets a younger roster overall, and maybe tweaks the product to allow more angles.

 

4) Bruce the Giant, RIP.

 

5) Champagne Lover lost a hair v hair match to establish the new hottest heel in the game....just not sure who that is....

[Munit]

James Diaz to be signed in Japan to Burning or PGHW. Second coming of the BEAST

[Dorian]

After what just happened today IRL, I think we might see something similar now happen in TEW. Maybe not COVID itself (which no live events might not happen until next year, I hadn't heard that until today), but the entire global economy and stuff crashing and burning right at the start of the game. Causing a lot of companies to have to do what they can until it revives.

 

If that happens (just spitballing), probably means USPW has to get rid of contracts ASAP. If TCW is in Cult now, will they survive. I could see any UK promotion that started up after 21CW bought up everyone, they are going to struggle. Women promotions are going to be probably hardest hit other than the two majors, since they are new.

 

Even if TEW doesn't do this, I might make this a scenario right out of the gate.

[tryker2710]

After what just happened today IRL, I think we might see something similar now happen in TEW. Maybe not COVID itself (which no live events might not happen until next year, I hadn't heard that until today), but the entire global economy and stuff crashing and burning right at the start of the game. Causing a lot of companies to have to do what they can until it revives.

 

If that happens (just spitballing), probably means USPW has to get rid of contracts ASAP. If TCW is in Cult now, will they survive. I could see any UK promotion that started up after 21CW bought up everyone, they are going to struggle. Women promotions are going to be probably hardest hit other than the two majors, since they are new.

 

Even if TEW doesn't do this, I might make this a scenario right out of the gate.

 

Adam was pretty adamant that nothing like Covid-19 would make it into the game

[Morti]

Adam was pretty adamant that nothing like Covid-19 would make it into the game

 

For good reason, I for one need escape from the hardship COVID brings with it

[Dorian]

I more was meaning that we're probably starting at a Global Recession when we start the game or it'll hit within a few months of the game starting. The Covid comment was that I don't see it being Covid itself, as you can't possibly do that (hence the 2021 comment) but like a world wide shortage of say wheat or something.

[The Dynamite Sid]

It's probably been said already but I expect Swoop McCarthy to be on his way to conquering the US - maybe in developmental in RIPW?

[Capelli King]

My fearless prognostication:

 

1) Ricky Dale Johnson retires from the ring but finds a new career doing color commentary.

 

2) Sammy Bach retired due to injury.

 

3) TCW gets a younger roster overall, and maybe tweaks the product to allow more angles.

 

4) Bruce the Giant, RIP.

 

5) Champagne Lover lost a hair v hair match to establish the new hottest heel in the game....just not sure who that is....

 

I think Bruce will be dead, will follow the path of his real life version.

[Jomosensual]

One more I thought of is that I think Fuyuko Higa is working in the USA now. Noticed last game that she could work there which I found odd, and while that's not exactly a reason to think anything is going to happen I do think either TCW or SWF will get a womens division and she's a really good get, especially for TCW.