a0161613 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Excuse my ignorance as I just started tinkering, but why wouldn’t a regular conversion work? What all does it leave out? It's understandable. With what I converted, the 2016 personality sliders tend to create only a couple of different personality attributes, and not a balanced range either. It creates some very negative dressing rooms. Beyond that, the more specific attribute, don't come across at all. I found products etc easier enough to change but adding attributes is a case of checking thousands of workers. It made me understand why this is being built from the ground up and why certain mod makers haven't released yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruthian23 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 <p>I'm sure this has been asked, so apologies in advance, but is there any sort of broad timeframe for this? Obviously there's not a specific release date, but are we talking days, weeks, a month, multiple months, etc?</p><p> </p><p> I've been playing and enjoying Cornellverse but was looking for some other good databases because it's getting a little stale. I'm holding off on some of the real life ones until they're more complete and fleshed out.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Roguey Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Ruthian23" data-cite="Ruthian23" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'm sure this has been asked, so apologies in advance, but is there any sort of broad timeframe for this? Obviously there's not a specific release date, but are we talking days, weeks, a month, multiple months, etc?<p> </p><p> I've been playing and enjoying Cornellverse but was looking for some other good databases because it's getting a little stale. I'm holding off on some of the real life ones until they're more complete and fleshed out.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> No broad timeframe as of yet unfortunately - can't speak for the full team but I tend to find timeframes box you in and cause mistakes to happen. Once we've got one, we'll be shouting and screaming from the virtual rooftops. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruthian23 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MHero" data-cite="MHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>No broad timeframe as of yet unfortunately - can't speak for the full team but I tend to find timeframes box you in and cause mistakes to happen. Once we've got one, we'll be shouting and screaming from the virtual rooftops. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, I get that and hear it from a lot of people who develop stuff. I always say I just want a guesstimate and won't hold them to it, but I've been informed in the past that while I might not hold them to it, a lot of others will. No worries. I look forward to it whenever it comes out.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Roguey Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Am still tweaking with a conversion of Diamond just now though so thay should act as a quick fix for anyone interested. <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markw Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MHero" data-cite="MHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Am still tweaking with a conversion of Diamond just now though so thay should act as a quick fix for anyone interested. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Living up to your name.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Roguey Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Markw" data-cite="Markw" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Living up to your name.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> u sweet talker u</p><p> </p><p> I don't have much free time during the week so I wouldn't expect a first draft until either this weekend or the next. If anyone wants to follow the madness as I run through it, jump into the GDScord since I'm fairly frequent in there.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWF Fan Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MHero" data-cite="MHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>u sweet talker u<p> </p><p> I don't have much free time during the week so I wouldn't expect a first draft until either this weekend or the next. If anyone wants to follow the madness as I run through it, jump into the GDScord since I'm fairly frequent in there.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'll stick to religiously following your tweets <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLLK Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 playing Diamond with the new features would rule, so I’m super thankful that we’ll get that to hold us over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="SWF Fan" data-cite="SWF Fan" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I'll stick to religiously following your tweets <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That would make you a tweet stalker, rather than a sweet talker.....</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWF Fan Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Derek B" data-cite="Derek B" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>That would make you a tweet stalker, rather than a sweet talker.....</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> How the tides have turned, the first time I met MHero he followed me for 2 or 3 minutes before realising it was me he was looking for, the second he turned up on my train.</p><p> </p><p> The tides have turned.</p><p> </p><p> I love MHero, he's a good one.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Roguey Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 What's happening troops? Got the converted data to a stage where I'm happy with it. It's not got the fancy bells and whistles of 2020 but it's playable and this is by design. The built for 2020 version is still simmering away but hopefully this tides people over in the meantime. If there are any major gamebreaking issues, let me know - I've only simmed one calendar year in the data fully so anything past January Year 2 is a mystery to you and me! For things like attributes and such, feel free to tweak and such and share what you've done. Thunderverse Diamond 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalton Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Well there goes my week. Thanks MHero! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilman Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Wait - what the hell is this?! I was about to go to sleep, I've got work in the morning but now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a0161613 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Wait - what the hell is this?! I was about to go to sleep, I've got work in the morning but now... Yup, pretty much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swanton825 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 So long, free time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLLK Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MHero" data-cite="MHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>What's happening troops?<p> </p><p> Got the converted data to a stage where I'm happy with it. It's not got the fancy bells and whistles of 2020 but it's playable and this is by design. The built for 2020 version is still simmering away but hopefully this tides people over in the meantime. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> If there are any major gamebreaking issues, let me know - I've only simmed one calendar year in the data fully so anything past January Year 2 is a mystery to you and me! For things like attributes and such, feel free to tweak and such and share what you've done.</p><p> </p><p> <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qKQcyUZqSIfW4a03JVR_9WqM1NHf55UA/view?usp=sharing" rel="external nofollow">Thunderverse Diamond 2020</a></p></div></blockquote><p> my heart is full</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigilistic Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Anyone play MHero's conversion yet? How's it play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Roguey Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 on discord, we accidentally made gws a 0% match 100% angle promotion briefly last night and then the ai cheated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outb0undflight Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Sigilistic" data-cite="Sigilistic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Anyone play MHero's conversion yet? How's it play?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Plays alright. I haven't spent a ton of time in it yet but it's certainly playable. PWI seems to be a little too aggressive in poaching talent. I started a RAMPAGE game and they immediately offered exclusive deals to Bobby Ruiz, Manu Samoa, and Kay Pasa which really kneecaps RAMPAGE coming out of the gate. And when I started a BCW game to check them out they immediately went after Tanner Ellis. </p><p> </p><p> I had heard the AI in 20 is pretty aggressive so I'm guessing that just has something to do with it being a conversion which isn't 100% optimized for it yet.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MHero" data-cite="MHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>on discord, we accidentally made gws a 0% match 100% angle promotion briefly last night and then the ai cheated</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> While you're here, MHero...I know you had mentioned a ways back in the thread that you guys had abandoned the Confederate flag imagery in BCW for '20 and posted a new logo, but in this conversion the old one is still there. I figured that might be worth considering removing and repackaging the download given that this seems like a really poor time to release a mod with Confederate flags in it.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a0161613 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Sigilistic" data-cite="Sigilistic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Anyone play MHero's conversion yet? How's it play?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> The issues are really with the converter itself. Roster sizes forcing the AI to poach, attributes aren't 100% complete and personalities are picked from a select bunch, but leaning towards a negative bunch. I wouldn't expect him to address those, unless he was willing to put the time in to do it. This is an issue that affects the default 2016 data a lot more than this. </p><p> </p><p> He's adjusted the products and has based it on the newest bunch, which will help a lot out of the gate.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Roguey Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="outb0undflight" data-cite="outb0undflight" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> While you're here, MHero...I know you had mentioned a ways back in the thread that you guys had abandoned the Confederate flag imagery in BCW for '20 and posted a new logo, but in this conversion the old one is still there. I figured that might be worth considering removing and repackaging the download given that this seems like a really poor time to release a mod with Confederate flags in it.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yup that one is on me and I can only apologise for it. I've been staring at the new logos for 2020 that long that it never even registered for me. I'll fix tomorrow when I'm back at my laptop.</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outb0undflight Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 <blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="MHero" data-cite="MHero" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47493" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yup that one is on me and I can only apologise for it. I've been staring at the new logos for 2020 that long that it never even registered for me. I'll fix tomorrow when I'm back at my laptop.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> No worries. I figured it'd just slipped your mind when you put the conversion together but I wanted to mention it in just in case! Can't wait for the full release!</p> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thiagofjv Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 What's happening troops? Got the converted data to a stage where I'm happy with it. It's not got the fancy bells and whistles of 2020 but it's playable and this is by design. The built for 2020 version is still simmering away but hopefully this tides people over in the meantime. If there are any major gamebreaking issues, let me know - I've only simmed one calendar year in the data fully so anything past January Year 2 is a mystery to you and me! For things like attributes and such, feel free to tweak and such and share what you've done. Thunderverse Diamond 2020 Just one more time, Kintaro Kinjo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalton Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 Just one more time, Kintaro Kinjo! Kinjo my hero <3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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