TCW Discussion Thread

[Teh_Showtime]

I ended up grabbing Cameron Vessey from Canada, and Lisa Bowen has great chemistry with a Greg Gauge. Cam has a legendary gimmick and Bryan Vessey came out of retirement to put him over, so he’s sitting mid 60s popularity already.

 

It’s a nice little trio, but Gauge is exploding and is 4th on the roster after Ace/Wolf/Jay. I had to pass the TV title to a debuting El Leon so GG could elevate. They’ll probably need another guy to take falls since the core 3 are all rising super hard. I like Ash Campbell, but he likes drugs.

[Generic Heel 104]

Does anyone have tips for getting new guys over in TCW? I've brought in Masked Cougar & Mr. Lucha III as a tag team, but the crowd doesn't like them squash people since they see it as four complete unknowns.

[Devilb0y]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Teh_Showtime" data-cite="Teh_Showtime" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47616" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I ended up grabbing Cameron Vessey from Canada, and Lisa Bowen has great chemistry with a Greg Gauge. Cam has a legendary gimmick and Bryan Vessey came out of retirement to put him over, so he’s sitting mid 60s popularity already.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's rad. I love that Cameron Vessey is in the spot he's in, popularity-wise. It makes pushing him interesting. And the connection to Bryan makes signing him for TCW an easy choice.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Generic Heel 104" data-cite="Generic Heel 104" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47616" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Does anyone have tips for getting new guys over in TCW? I've brought in Masked Cougar & Mr. Lucha III as a tag team, but the crowd doesn't like them squash people since they see it as four complete unknowns.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's really the same as it was in the past. Bring them in with high momentum by starting them off in a hot angle with someone over, then have them go over more popular guys on the roster in 10 minute matches (I find squashes don't work very well in TCW).</p><p> </p><p> TCW's midcard is absolutely full of bad wrestlers and guys in their 40s who I have no problem turning into jobbers. Jimmy Foxx, Chance Fortune, Maverick, Human Arsenal and Danny Fonzarelli can all be used for this, plus others. If you really want to avoid annoying them you can go the New Japan route and start putting your new guys in multi-man tags (I usually use 3 vs 3 or 4 vs 4) with experienced guys so they can get wins without actually getting a pin.</p><p> </p><p> I just realised that Nicky Champion's contract is up in 56 days in my game. Saying nothing as this is a dynasty game but... hello USPW bidding war. <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Malioc]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Generic Heel 104" data-cite="Generic Heel 104" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47616" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Does anyone have tips for getting new guys over in TCW? I've brought in Masked Cougar & Mr. Lucha III as a tag team, but the crowd doesn't like them squash people since they see it as four complete unknowns.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> As long as one of the opponents is better than Unknown, you're fine.</p><p> When putting them over against workers, who are much more over, I also advise the Keep Strong note. <img alt=";)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/wink.png.686f06e511ee1fbf6bdc7d82f6831e53.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Hashasheen]

<p>I've been thinking about an HGC retro-brand being a part of TCW as a secondary or supplementary brand. The idea would be that (much like IRL TNA and WWE), the Brico people reach out to JK Stallings, who agrees to come back as a personality to headline the brand and offer something different to bring back ex-HCG / ex-TCW fans. </p><p> </p><p>

Now, I'm struggling on two fronts: </p><p> </p><p>

1. Should this simply be a straight HGC throwback, with whatever veterans of that period on the roster plus some fresh guys to work with? Or maybe I should take it in another direction, and have it be Stallings presenting a whole new roster of rookies and veterans... that is to say, female rookies and veterans? The idea would be that Stallings matured as an indie smark as he got older and is now all about women's wrestling as he got burnt out on men's wrestling after dealing with Strong, Chord and the rest as the boss.</p><p> </p><p>

2. What would this retro-HGC be like? In my head it's kind of like WCW was under Bischoff as opposed to the more straight-laced TCW mimicking ROH, but in trying to condense it to a one hour show I'm trying to pick out branding and themes. Obviously a bit more hardcore than basic TCW, maybe a little more into the characters and mood. Maybe a little bit more cinematic even, ala an LU or WWE atmo. This extends into the title scene as well. I'd do an HGC TV title either way, but TCW's kind of stolen thunder on that one, so I'd have to rebrand the TCW title as something else. </p><p> </p><p>

So, any suggestions or thoughts?</p>

[Self]

I love the idea of doing HGC as a brand. I'd go full Hollywood with it. Base it in a studio in LA. A glitzy set. Colourful characters with an eye for toys. A cinematic match on every show.

 

I'm not too familiar with what HGC actually was. Always sounded like campy sports entertainment, with Robo-Cop and the Wolfman.

[eayragt]

My TCW diary has HGC as a development fed for TCW, having signed the hottest unemployed stars in the Indy (no stealing other feds workers to let them rot in development). It's running the same product, and used a proving ground. El Hi Del Neutron is going to be the quickest person to earn a call up.

[JTremblay2]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Devilb0y" data-cite="Devilb0y" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47616" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Bonuses is my way of doing it, usually. Toss ten grand at Wolf and he'll probably be fine.<p> </p><p> I managed to re-sign Koshiro Ino in my dynasty game and am so happy about it. Always loved the big painted monster.</p><p> </p><p> Also noticed that someone else here also put Jay Chord and Greg Gauge in a "Legacy" style stable called "The Heritage" which is very funny. Mine has Edd Stone in it though. Houses of Chord, Keith and Stone and all. Now if only I could get my hands on a Valentine, a Vessey, a Faith and a DeColt...</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That's me haha! <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> I was able to grab Starr, Valentine and Vessey to complete the group. I put the title on Starr, who's the most popular guy (92-94 pop). They will probably run rough shots on everyone for the next year or so until the inevitable breakup, with Chord turning face and taking the title.</p>

[Teasenitryn]

I have been thinking of a TCW run where I get rid of the weekly television show and have them run a touring schedule. I know that a couple people here have done this so a few questions on a logistics aspect.

 

What do I do with the television deal? Just straight up cancel it? If so what do I replace it with?

 

One option I have is a (much smaller) version of Reverie where they set up their own network. If I do this to I focus on profit or size of coverage? How much do I eat into profits to add countries such as Canada? Is it better to just go with a PPV channel?

 

Are there any events I absolutely should keep for the integrity of it still being TCW? I think I read somewhere historical and legendary.

 

I am also considering running QAW, also as a touring company, in this game, maybe with some headcanon or database editing involvement of BriCo in the same way a card company owns both NJPW and Stardom. If I start a network or PPV service for TCW am I then able to put QAW on this broadcaster or do I need to maybe make a broadcaster in the editor that is just for those two feds?

[WCGreyghost]

I finally pulled the trigger and put the belt on Jay Chord. Going to give AA a rematch at Hotter than Hell, then probably a triangle match with Greg Gauge, AA, and Chord at Road Riot #4 to buy time to get the US title off Mo (going to Huggins, who is money on the mic for me), so I can run Mo v Chord on top until Hawkins returns from filming in late November.

[Editor6]

I have been thinking of a TCW run where I get rid of the weekly television show and have them run a touring schedule. I know that a couple people here have done this so a few questions on a logistics aspect.

 

What do I do with the television deal? Just straight up cancel it? If so what do I replace it with?

 

One option I have is a (much smaller) version of Reverie where they set up their own network. If I do this to I focus on profit or size of coverage? How much do I eat into profits to add countries such as Canada? Is it better to just go with a PPV channel?

 

I'll defer to those who have done it to discuss specifics, but the help file on this states that Tour Highlight shows (which is what you'd replace your TV deal with) bring in much less money and have smaller pop gains/losses than regular broadcast shows.

 

Are there any events I absolutely should keep for the integrity of it still being TCW? I think I read somewhere historical and legendary.

 

Total Mayhem and Malice In Wonderland are their two biggest events in that order. Absolutely keep those. Next is probably Summer Showdown. King of Kings is a new event but it's a tournament, so that's probably worth keeping.

 

I am also considering running QAW, also as a touring company, in this game, maybe with some headcanon or database editing involvement of BriCo in the same way a card company owns both NJPW and Stardom. If I start a network or PPV service for TCW am I then able to put QAW on this broadcaster or do I need to maybe make a broadcaster in the editor that is just for those two feds?

 

You'd have to make it so BriCo owned both companies and the broadcaster.

[Teasenitryn]

I'll defer to those who have done it to discuss specifics, but the help file on this states that Tour Highlight shows (which is what you'd replace your TV deal with) bring in much less money and have smaller pop gains/losses than regular broadcast shows.

 

Yeah good point, my hope is that I can mitigate that with having more tour shows than you would have weekly tv and more ppv level events, TCW can also get a few million per month balanced against how much coverage I go for, there are also cheaper options (that also bring less money) so I'll have a look and wait for anyone else who has done this to chip in.

 

Total Mayhem and Malice In Wonderland are their two biggest events in that order. Absolutely keep those. Next is probably Summer Showdown. King of Kings is a new event but it's a tournament, so that's probably worth keeping.

 

Thanks for that Those three were the ones I was looking at but good to have confirmation there.

 

 

 

You'd have to make it so BriCo owned both companies and the broadcaster.

 

So basically what USPW have already done with Reverie which...eh. So what I likely do is internet subscription TCW, change ownership and raise the popularity of QAW a little (toy lines, kids' clothing) but for broadcasting both are on their own in getting the popularity and coverage rather than relying on a toy company to branch into television.

[Bad Collin]

I'm on cloud nine at the moment boys because I just got the TCW booking gig in my Road To Glory game. I'm in February 2025 and TCW are in pretty bad shape:

• All the big stars are gone (Roderick Remus is champion and is the only main eventer who can really work)
  
• Wolf died
  
• The tag division is deader than dead, as in Roderick Remus and Marc Speed are the only decent tag team
  

 

This is going to be quite a challenge.

 

There are a few free agents who can immediately come in and challenge for a slot in the main event; Acid II, Americana Jr, Lenny Brown and The Architect. Otherwise it's time for T-Bone Bright, Seth Whitehead and Nick Booth to take the final step.

 

I really want to get the tag division back to being the best in the world so the first few months are going to involve a lot of tag matches with random looking teams.

[d12345]

I'm on cloud nine at the moment boys because I just got the TCW booking gig in my Road To Glory game. I'm in February 2025 and TCW are in pretty bad shape:

• All the big stars are gone (Roderick Remus is champion and is the only main eventer who can really work)
  
• Wolf died
  
• The tag division is deader than dead, as in Roderick Remus and Marc Speed are the only decent tag team
  

 

This is going to be quite a challenge.

 

There are a few free agents who can immediately come in and challenge for a slot in the main event; Acid II, Americana Jr, Lenny Brown and The Architect. Otherwise it's time for T-Bone Bright, Seth Whitehead and Nick Booth to take the final step.

 

I really want to get the tag division back to being the best in the world so the first few months are going to involve a lot of tag matches with random looking teams.

 

How long did it take for Aaron Andrews, Mighty Mo, Jay Chord, Huggins and Edd Stone to get poached?

[Bad Collin]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="d12345" data-cite="d12345" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47616" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>How long did it take for Aaron Andrews, Mighty Mo, Jay Chord, Huggins and Edd Stone to get poached?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Andrews went to SWF in Jan 2024, he's tearing it up there with 99 rated matches all over the place</p><p> </p><p> Mighty Mo lasted until Dec 2024 before heading to USPW</p><p> </p><p> Huggins went to USPW in May 2022</p><p> </p><p> Edd Stone lasted until May 2024 and he is now with CZCW and holds their main belt.</p>

[Lo-Drew]

Just like TEW2016, with TCW, depending on destiny rolls, people are going to get snatched up. I'm on Year 4 of my TCW save that I've mentioned on here(which I've still been keeping up with since the demo came out) and I'm still getting people snatched by UPSW. They took T-Bone, Danielle Sweetheart and Foxxy LaRue from me and almost took Higa, Andrews and Edd. That's even after now making 15 mil a month and editing Kyle Rhodes to not be cheap.

 

Although with that said, I can afford to let these guys get poached because I have a lot of people with good SQ stocked up. Which is very, very, very important for TCW. Always look for people with high SQ and sign them long term. Prioritize the people you would actually want to fight to keep. As I found in TEW2016, there's found money going after the SWF and UPSW young prospects. Cooper Christie, Jack Jackson, Roderick Flack, Zeke, Hellion, Rocky Weatherford, Stevie Stanley, Whole Lotta Marvin, etc. You can scoop them up easily if you add more years and merch cut and develop them into guys that can be useful. It takes time in this game but when you get them going, you'll benefit greatly from it.

[Sco xY2Jx]

Started a new TCW save, just ran Malice In Wonderland which was a roaring success except for one major injury.

 

Freddy Huggins was in line for a decent push up ubtil I was ready to slot him in The Syndicate. I decided to put him and Troy Tornado as a throwaway tag team designed to kick start a storyline between Tornado looking for Laura's affections without Freddy catching on.

Their tag match is against the debuting team 'The Undesirables', Ernest Youngman and Davis Wayne Newton managed by Sam Keith. It would be an open magch, debutants get offense in but heels win and away we go... Audible is called during the match. The Ubdesirables win because Huggins broke his freakin' neck.

 

OK, let's on the fly book this shit. Tornado comforts an upset Laura backstage which starts that story off... No Freddy though... Maybe we unveil Matt Hocking as the actual boyfriend then and blur reality and fantasy. First time this TEW I've had an in ring audible called on a finish and lost a star for the company.

[Bad Collin]

I've got an interesting challenge in my game now. Runaway Train was the owner who hired me as booker but he has left the business three months later leaving his daughter Lisa Bowen in charge. Lisa has set me the goal of hitting Large within two years but also not to hire anyone that works for a medium sized company or higher. Since i'm in 2025 everyone with Wrestleworld is at least medium leaving me with a total of ten promotion to scout talent from...

[mmaaddict]

There’s a lot to go through in this thread, but I’m new to the game and using TCW. Who do you all use as top tier faces outside of Andrews?

 

I know there is Bach, but he’s older and the game seems to be pointing towards him declining right now.

 

It feels like the next level after Andrews are all heel...Chord, Wolf, Huggins, Gauge...

 

Do you all turn one of them face? I am trying to build T-Bone and plan to give him the TV Title when I want to bump Gauge up a tier. Just feels like I need at least one more guy at the top besides Andrews and a declining Bach.

[MegaCity1]

There’s a lot to go through in this thread, but I’m new to the game and using TCW. Who do you all use as top tier faces outside of Andrews?

 

I know there is Bach, but he’s older and the game seems to be pointing towards him declining right now.

 

It feels like the next level after Andrews are all heel...Chord, Wolf, Huggins, Gauge...

 

Do you all turn one of them face? I am trying to build T-Bone and plan to give him the TV Title when I want to bump Gauge up a tier. Just feels like I need at least one more guy at the top besides Andrews and a declining Bach.

 

Mighty Mo is the way to go. Or you could turn Joshua Taylor. Also, depending on what you're looking to do, One Man Army is a nice compliment to Andrews as an upper card face.

[mmaaddict]

Mighty Mo is the way to go. Or you could turn Joshua Taylor. Also, depending on what you're looking to do, One Man Army is a nice compliment to Andrews as an upper card face.

 

I am looking for guys to partner with Andrews at times, so I’ll keep that in mind about One Man Army.

 

I’m mostly just thinking long term and when I do take the belt off Andrews who do I have to challenge a heel champion other than Andrews.

 

Turning Taylor may make sense and I’ve laid the groundwork almost inadvertently already with him going on a losing streak and it driving him crazy. End result could be the face turn to rebuild momentum.

 

Mighty Mo got hurt on my first show and has been sidelined. But he’s back now so I’ll start looking at that too.

 

Thanks.

[shamelessposer]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mmaaddict" data-cite="mmaaddict" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47616" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There’s a lot to go through in this thread, but I’m new to the game and using TCW. Who do you all use as top tier faces outside of Andrews?<p> </p><p> I know there is Bach, but he’s older and the game seems to be pointing towards him declining right now. </p><p> </p><p> It feels like the next level after Andrews are all heel...Chord, Wolf, Huggins, Gauge...</p><p> </p><p> Do you all turn one of them face? I am trying to build T-Bone and plan to give him the TV Title when I want to bump Gauge up a tier. Just feels like I need at least one more guy at the top besides Andrews and a declining Bach.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I really like to push Edd Stone as a comedic foil to Wolf Hawkins, who absolutely refuses to respect Stone even though he's totally incapable of (cleanly) beating him. Outside of him, Mo, and possibly One Man Army you're hurting for top of the card faces, and TCW's structure kind of demands that you bring in new talent and start pushing them in a hurry.</p>

[neslo024]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mmaaddict" data-cite="mmaaddict" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47616" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There’s a lot to go through in this thread, but I’m new to the game and using TCW. Who do you all use as top tier faces outside of Andrews?<p> </p><p> I know there is Bach, but he’s older and the game seems to be pointing towards him declining right now. </p><p> </p><p> It feels like the next level after Andrews are all heel...Chord, Wolf, Huggins, Gauge...</p><p> </p><p> Do you all turn one of them face? I am trying to build T-Bone and plan to give him the TV Title when I want to bump Gauge up a tier. Just feels like I need at least one more guy at the top besides Andrews and a declining Bach.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> TCW is in a major need of an influx of talent so I usually use it as an opportunity to bring in some solid face guys like Joffy Laine, Fro Sure and Nelson Callum. It will take some time to build their pop up but you could easily cover that time with Ace vs Wolf, vs Chord and vs Huggins. Other companies will have contracts running out as well and I always try and grab talented guys to fill out my upper card.</p>

[jeronullet]

<p>Unretire Vessey</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mmaaddict" data-cite="mmaaddict" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47616" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There’s a lot to go through in this thread, but I’m new to the game and using TCW. Who do you all use as top tier faces outside of Andrews?<p> </p><p> I know there is Bach, but he’s older and the game seems to be pointing towards him declining right now. </p><p> </p><p> It feels like the next level after Andrews are all heel...Chord, Wolf, Huggins, Gauge...</p><p> </p><p> Do you all turn one of them face? I am trying to build T-Bone and plan to give him the TV Title when I want to bump Gauge up a tier. Just feels like I need at least one more guy at the top besides Andrews and a declining Bach.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> see if you can talk Bryan Vessey out of retirement, sign him to a pass the torch or gatekeeper contract and have him lose some matches to Edd Stone or Mighty Mo or both on PPV(s) and that should get Stone or Mo popular enought o main event with them on TV...</p>

[Teh_Showtime]

I think Freddy Huggins is viable as a top level face. He’s a career loyalist to TCW and as far as I know it would be his first babyface run. My most recent ideas were to use his sister as a catalyst for his turn. Have her get involved with one of the top heels and either turn on her brother, or have him go face trying to free her.