LoganRodzen

This is my biggest concern. I worry that the two-month in-game demo/beta won't be able to collect enough data in regards to bugs for long-term games, which is what I exclusively play. I've yet to have a save game (in any version of TEW) that didn't go longer than two years... more like 5-10 years on a single save game. Seems like those of us who like these longer games will be beta testing long after the game is released.

I'd love to try out a multiplayer game at some point with someone where they operate TCW and I run MAW. Would make for a lot of fun in my opinion!!

Been saying this for years about TEW. Glad someone decided to go extremely in-depth to explain this. This isn't new to TEW2020, this has been the TEW series since the beginning. Book what you want!!

It really took me a hot minute to get on board with TEW2020 but I can absolutely say I am on board now. It took four days of small blimps of playing and using the "Simplified" skin. I can say now that this certainly is a better game than TEW2016 in terms of gameplay overall, simply because of the depth. It goes further than TEW2016 in a lot of ways but you have to be willing to learn this new system to find out about it. I'm not afraid to admit that I read the book by its cover and dismissed it. I was wrong. This game is fun and has a ton to offer. I do think that the buttons need to be fixed so it isn't a jumbled mess, some things could be condensed into other screens, etc. I've never complained about clicks when it comes to TEW... if anything, I've always bought silent mice with no sound when you click. It's a text-based simulator, you are expected to click a ton. Ultimately what helped me the most was playing TEW2016 and TEW2020 right next to each other on my dual-screens. I would do something on TEW2016 and do the same thing on TEW2020 and vice versa. Some things are better on each but the one thing that kept sticking out: the depth of TEW2020 compared to older versions. It truly is a step above any other TEW released to this point. I know people have their gripes here and there, which most are good gripes to point out but I think if people give this a really good chance, they'll see it for what it really is: a fun game.

If you go under Options > User Preferences, you should see the first option is "Fog of War is turned on", uncheck that and you'll see the real stat.

Is this a joke? $70 for this? Wow!

12/11/19 Well, this journal entry makes a lot more sense now.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rebby" data-cite="Rebby" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47578" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Was reading the manual and read 'Your Office > Creative' section. Damn, Adam, tell us how you really feel.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah, I really don't care how he feels about how people played his game if they paid for it. He had basically already lost my $35 prior to reading that, it's guaranteed now.</p>

Still playing! Won’t be stopping anytime soon.

Really appreciate this. I might be able to give this an actual chance now without feeling like I'm going to self-combust. EDIT: Yeah... I just can't. This is really disappointing. Why does everything in this game seem like a chore now? Nothing flows properly at all. Beyond frustrated.

I didn’t use Fog of War. I just liked having a letter as opposed to so many numbers to constantly look at. It’s supposed to be a game to have fun, I don’t crunch numbers and look at things like that for fun. I’m glad we have a forum full of mathematicians though.

I just went through the Developers Journal again and searched for "match", "100", and "grades". The only mention of a 0-100 rating switch is in regards to gimmick performance on page 3. If someone else could show me that entry I'd appreciate it. I followed it very closely and I feel like that's something I would have instantly thrown up a red flag about.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="CobheadJake" data-cite="CobheadJake" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47578" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Sorry if it's been mentioned elsewhere but there's a lot of posts to read through. Can anyone tell me if there's still a way to change the match ratings to grades instead of numbers? I'm fine with everything else, I just like seeing grades for match ratings. I've had a quick look without any luck.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Atticus" data-cite="Atticus" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47578" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Grades do appear to be gone unless I'm overlooking something. I've always preferred the numbers, but it is strange to see the letters gone because I seem to recall they were the default in 2016?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Considering TEW2016 had Achievements for A* matches and shows, this is either a massive oversight or a huge FU.</p>

So the main screen of the game, where you spend the majority of the time planning and developing, is very hard to deal with? Can you re-read that a couple of times and ask yourself if people are exaggerating?

<p>WMMA5 Office - <a href="https://i.ibb.co/74jh1XX/Screen-Shot-2020-04-24-at-3-27-46-AM.jpg" rel="external nofollow">https://i.ibb.co/74jh1XX/Screen-Shot-2020-04-24-at-3-27-46-AM.jpg</a></p><p> TEW2020 Office - <a href="https://i.ibb.co/wMSzVsJ/Screen-Shot-2020-04-24-at-3-27-40-AM.jpg" rel="external nofollow">https://i.ibb.co/wMSzVsJ/Screen-Shot-2020-04-24-at-3-27-40-AM.jpg</a></p><p> </p><p> WMMA5 Internet - <a href="https://i.ibb.co/Z13YYvw/Screen-Shot-2020-04-24-at-3-27-31-AM.jpg" rel="external nofollow">https://i.ibb.co/Z13YYvw/Screen-Shot-2020-04-24-at-3-27-31-AM.jpg</a></p><p> TEW2020 Internet - <a href="https://i.ibb.co/10hpQXK/Screen-Shot-2020-04-24-at-3-27-27-AM.jpg" rel="external nofollow">https://i.ibb.co/10hpQXK/Screen-Shot-2020-04-24-at-3-27-27-AM.jpg</a></p><p> </p><p> WMMA5Main Screen - <a href="https://i.ibb.co/YfVvTYP/Screen-Shot-2020-04-24-at-3-27-04-AM.jpg" rel="external nofollow">https://i.ibb.co/YfVvTYP/Screen-Shot-2020-04-24-at-3-27-04-AM.jpg</a></p><p> TEW2020 Main Screen - <a href="https://i.ibb.co/ypC9kLK/Screen-Shot-2020-04-24-at-3-26-54-AM.jpg" rel="external nofollow">https://i.ibb.co/ypC9kLK/Screen-Shot-2020-04-24-at-3-26-54-AM.jpg</a></p><p> </p><p> Complete rewrite... or plug everything on top of WMMA5? <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Ghg398" data-cite="Ghg398" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47578" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>WMMA5 is amazing though. The colors and everything are nice on the eyes and the interface is great.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It is the same exact thing. The more I compare the two games, I find it hard to believe TEW2020 was a rewrite as opposed to an "add everything on top of the WMMA5 UI".</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="The Nickman" data-cite="The Nickman" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47578" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>There's completely zero need for comments like this.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> There was no need to hype a game like this for so long for it to literally be WMMA5 with the CVerse database added to it. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DaneQuixote" data-cite="DaneQuixote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47578" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Disappointed by a new release? The game hasn't officially BEEN released <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /> Seriously, guys? lol do you not understand what a BETA is?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is the release. This isn't a beta as much as people want to tell you that. This game is finished outside of bugs that the general public will find this week and will be patched. What you see is what you are getting next week outside of whatever bugs are fixed. If this was released six months ago, I'd probably be completely OK with what you are saying. But we are one week away from a $34.95 purchase. I can think of 10+ games I'd rather buy for that price tag right now that doesn't give me headaches the second I load it. This was a massive bummer.</p>

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Adam Ryland" data-cite="Adam Ryland" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="47568" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Grades aren't in TEW2020.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> How is this even possible? <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

Coming from someone who NEVER played WMMA outside of loading the demo up for a few minutes and getting overwhelmed... you completely lost me. Back to TEW2016 for a bit until I decide I truly want to make this jump. Change is REALLY hard for some people... I'm one of them.

I didn't even know that. I can't believe I played for so long without it. That's a bit depressing to be honest.

Really looking forward to this! What an awesome project. I've wanted to see this feature put to use since it came out in TEW2016.

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="hyretic" data-cite="hyretic" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="46105" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><a href="https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1091907/000109190713000015/exhibit1017bookingagreement.htm" rel="external nofollow">A copy of Stephanie McMahon's contract</a><p> </p><p> </p><p> Basically saying they can let you go with 90 days notice and only have to pay your downside to the termination date, not to the end of the contract. It's hard to believe I know, but WWE's position in the wrestling world allows them to offer contracts so heavily weighted in their favour.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Most employers in the United States (depending on the state) are 'at-will employment' unless you have some type of contract specifically stating otherwise. They can let you go without cause at any point and there is nothing an employee can do about it. The fact they get 90 days notice and a pro-rated portion of their contract for those 90 days, is above and beyond most employers.</p>

The demo is the full-featured game. The only limitation is two months for a save game. You could run countless saves for two months prior to buying it if you wanted to.