TEW2010 Developer's Journal Discussion

[franticloser]

just to clarify, with sick bumps and who makes them up, the booker usually will have finishes and major spots he wants for each match, he is open to suggestions from the workers, and they are free to say no or suggest something different but yes it is up to the booker if he wants them or not

[Bigpapa42]

You overlook the fact that the game uses much smaller amounts of money than the real world. Do you think Triple H works for $30,000 a month? No, he has a multi-million dollar deal, probably at least $100,000 or more a month. That means all the money amounts are downscaled for playability purposes.

 

$1,000,000 is way more than enough to hire people up to $10,000 or so per month, maybe even $15,000. In fact, it may even be cheaper than the combined pay per appearance amounts.

 

Honestly, I think the amount of money shouldn't be a factor. The owner restrictions on contract amounts should cover all the bases, and if someone is stupid enough to offer too many expensive contracts (like Heyman did late in ECW's life), then they go bankrupt out of stupidity.

 

Basically, I'd like to see it more like WMMA2. Even the smallest promotions can get exclusive deals, but you have to be careful not to overstep your financial means. Make it a matter of management rather than arbitrary limits. Put the challenge into the hands of the players to manage the finances instead of putting limits on things. I would just rather see more flexibility.

 

The only thing this could be used for is for National promotions who fall to Cult despite being profitable, so they can still keep their top talent. For promotions starting at Cult or below, the $7,000,000 requirement will likely never be fulfilled.

 

Sorry, this is meant as constructive criticism. I think think the amount is far too arbitrary and pulled out of thin air and way too high. $1,000,000 would make more sense, as that is a good healthy place for a Cult promotion to be if they are actually doing well.

 

If there are no financial restrictions, it makes it far too easy for any cult promotion to land written deals. So it basically becomes a cheat, and there really isn't as much reason to keep trying to grow to national anymore.

 

Its a bit tough to compare between MMA and TEW as the two businesses are not the same. An exclusive deal in MMA still means you are only paying that fighter when they fight. In wrestling, you are paying regardless of whether they step into the ring at all or not.

 

If you want to look at numbers, $1m is very low. As PP points out, you have signed the worker to a guaranteed contract and are therefore on the hook for that money. If its only $1m, you have commited a significant portion of your current money to that one worker. And look at it from the worker's perspective - are they really going to be enticed to sign a written contract (thereby giving up the option of working for other promotions and making money that way) when you may lack the ability to honor that contract?

 

I think having a decently-high financial level required is important as it makes landing those written contracts possible, but not necessarily likely. Which is realistic. Almost no promotions of that size have exclusive guaranteed contracts in reality, so why should it be easy and simple in the game?

 

Randomfreeze also has a good point - we do not know how the financial model for the new game will be laid out. But looking at 2008, there are four cult promotions that start with $5m. Out of six (by my quick count) promotions that start at Cult. So 2/3 of the promotions that start at Cult could be at that $7m level within a reasonable amount of time. Based on the 2008 financial model, $7m for a cult level promotion to be considered strong and stable doesn't seem unreasonable at all.

[Donners]

I hope that sick bumps will help to increase the feeling of a difference between hardcore and normal promotions. I find that they play very much the same, but if the fans of the former want sick bumps, then it requires a bit more thought as to wrestler and match types.

[darthsiddus2]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Donners" data-cite="Donners" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25024" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I hope that sick bumps will help to increase the feeling of a difference between hardcore and normal promotions. I find that they play very much the same, but if the fans of the former want sick bumps, then it requires a bit more thought as to wrestler and match types.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think the diary writers will be able to tell the difference *wink*</p>

[LoganRodzen]

<p>Not really sure why people are getting so uptight over the cult written-deals feature and the money restriction. You always need excess cash in the bank... it doesn't matter if you're a janitor or a wrestling promotion. I wouldn't consider signing people to written deals until it's financially possible regardless of a restriction. If workers get stolen, so be it. Make new stars... that's the point of the game. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DreamGoddessLindsey" data-cite="DreamGoddessLindsey" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25024" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div> Honestly, I think the amount of money shouldn't be a factor. The owner restrictions on contract amounts should cover all the bases, and<strong> if someone is stupid enough to offer too many expensive contracts (like Heyman did late in ECW's life), then they go bankrupt out of stupidity.</strong></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm pretty sure at the time Heyman felt he was just 'risking it all' for that bigger pay out in the end that never came. I wouldn't say it was stupidity... just wishful thinking gone awry. <img alt=":rolleyes:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/rolleyes.png.4b097f4fbbe99ce5bcd5efbc1b773ed6.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Donners]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="darthsiddus2" data-cite="darthsiddus2" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25024" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think the diary writers will be able to tell the difference *wink*</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Oh, indeed, but while using your imagination is certainly good, it would be nice for the different styles to have a real gameplay distinction, especially for casual players. I think the game's flexibility can be its downfall in some respects - since the player can add so many new match types and customise the promotion style so much, the game doesn't always seem to know what to expect.</p>

[CrookedRainJr]

<p>Sick bumps being back is a very cool touch.</p><p> </p><p>

I remember in the early EWRs my brothers and I would jokingly always try to get Farouq to take a sick bump and he'd always refuse. We knew he would never do it; We would jokingly try all the time.</p><p> </p><p>

As mentioned already, definitely separates hardcore matches from promotion to promotion.</p>

[praguepride]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DreamGoddessLindsey" data-cite="DreamGoddessLindsey" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25024" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> The only thing this could be used for is for National promotions who fall to Cult despite being profitable, so they can still keep their top talent. For promotions starting at Cult or below, the $7,000,000 requirement will likely never be fulfilled.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Actually, this might be the main point of this feature, not for rising feds to get a deal but National+ feds that drop to cult will still be able to extend written contracts and not get all their talent stolen because they were forced to sign PPA's for a couple months.</p>

[Donners]

I would have thought that if a National promotion fell a level, and weren't able to bounce straight back up, their momentum would be very low - so low that they would not qualify for the feature.

[falling_star]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="praguepride" data-cite="praguepride" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25024" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Actually, this might be the main point of this feature, not for rising feds to get a deal but National+ feds that drop to cult will still be able to extend written contracts and not get all their talent stolen because they were forced to sign PPA's for a couple months.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I agree; it always bugged me that TCW and SWF fell to Cult (usually on ther path to International/Global), and then their talent would end-up working in USPW and SWF, or USPW and TCW.</p><p> </p><p> Personally, I think the amount should be lowered to allow true Cult feds to utilize it better; I think anywhere from 3-5 million is more than enough. Given that the owners personality factors into written deals for Cult feds, an owner who is driven to succeed at all costs might sign some not-so-smart written deals because he is sure that they will come out ahead because of it. Rather than just thinking about the situation NOW, the logic would consider the present and possible impact on the future.</p><p> </p><p> Heyman, for example, was so sure that ECW would succeed in rising to levels more comparable with WWF and WCW (or at least he needed to look that way to the boys) that he overextended himself with the thought the product would continue to grow and generate more income to pay these deals.</p>

[DreamGoddessLindsey]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="falling_star" data-cite="falling_star" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25024" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I agree; it always bugged me that TCW and SWF fell to Cult (usually on ther path to International/Global), and then their talent would end-up working in USPW and SWF, or USPW and TCW.<p> </p><p> Personally, I think the amount should be lowered to allow true Cult feds to utilize it better; I think anywhere from 3-5 million is more than enough. Given that the owners personality factors into written deals for Cult feds, an owner who is driven to succeed at all costs might sign some not-so-smart written deals because he is sure that they will come out ahead because of it. Rather than just thinking about the situation NOW, the logic would consider the present and possible impact on the future.</p><p> </p><p> Heyman, for example, was so sure that ECW would succeed in rising to levels more comparable with WWF and WCW (or at least he needed to look that way to the boys) that he overextended himself with the thought the product would continue to grow and generate more income to pay these deals.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not to mention most people consider TNA Cult sized, and TNA is bleeding money. With this, TNA still wouldn't qualify for Written deals, even though most of their talent are signed to Written contracts.</p>

[Remianen]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DreamGoddessLindsey" data-cite="DreamGoddessLindsey" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25024" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I don't think the "Sneaking Written Deals" are going to take place hardly ever if at all. The $7,000,000 requirement is a bit over-the-top I think. I seem to recall ROH having one or two Written deals at various times (Bryan Danielson used to have one) and they have nowhere near $7,000,000. I have never seen a Cult promotion get to that high amount of money either. Hell, starting National promotions in most databases (including TCW in the default database) only have $10,000,000.<p> </p><p> So unless the amount is lowered to something more reasonable like $1,000,000, this feature will probably never take place.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> You're wrong. See, you're falling into the same trap everyone else does. If people ran their Cult level promotions like they run their 0/0/0 local promotion, they'd have 7 mil by mid-Cult (do it and see). But no, most people do a bumrush to Regional/Cult trying to get to National ASAP. So saying something is 'impossible' or 'will never take place' just because "everyone" plays a certain way, is myopic and well, wrong.</p><p> </p><p> And Adam's right. Danielson's never been exclusive to ROH.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DreamGoddessLindsey" data-cite="DreamGoddessLindsey" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25024" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not to mention most people consider TNA Cult sized, and TNA is bleeding money. With this, TNA still wouldn't qualify for Written deals, even though most of their talent are signed to Written contracts.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> So lemme get this straight. You think TNA is Cult and 'bleeding money'? How long have they been bleeding money? Eventually the body runs out of blood but TNA hasn't (and won't). Why is that exactly? TNA in TEW terms would be Cult sized with an International or Global sized bank balance due to Panda so your comparison is fatally flawed. There's also no way in TEW for a promotion's worker's contracts to be subsidized by their network (like Spike does for Angle & Sting's deals).</p><p> </p><p> I can tell you unequivocally that if you run your promotion responsibly and keep your books balanced, you can have 7 mil by mid to late Cult (assuming the economy/industry doesn't spend too much time in the crapper). But nobody wants to do that so you're probably right, it'll mainly be used most by fallen SWF/TCW types of promotions. That doesn't mean 7 mil is 'impossible' or 'too high'. It means every Tom, Dick, and Troy Winner isn't going to be able to lock up the top of their card just because they're Cult. 1 mil would be complete <a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=monty%20haul" rel="external nofollow">Monty Haul</a>. If that's the number, you might as well just give written deals to Cult promotions outright. Even 5SSW can hit a mil by Cult and they start with a few onerous written deals on their books. 21CW starts with what, 2.5 mil at low Cult? 4.5 is doable before National if they actually ran their shows in a sensible fashion. The difference is, it'll take you longer to get to National because you have to be conservative in your approach (and the UK sucks for that in TEW).</p><p> </p><p> The feature is meant to make it possible to achieve, not a gimme. There are several folks here who can tell you it's possible to get to 7 mil in cash before National (foolinc would be one, I'd imagine).</p>

[djthefunkchris]

I think the bigger question is going to be, at least for me, what is going to be the rules for House shows. Are they staying the same (must be on written contract), or will we have a way to replicate the old days with regional promotions being able to capitalize on house show income? Will making the promotions Cult end up being the work around? Etc.

[Enkay]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="djthefunkchris" data-cite="djthefunkchris" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25024" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think the bigger question is going to be, at least for me, what is going to be the rules for House shows. Are they staying the same (must be on written contract), or will we have a way to replicate the old days with regional promotions being able to capitalize on house show income? Will making the promotions Cult end up being the work around? Etc.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well, what I did in a recent game while playing CZCW was I just put a few weekly events on my schedule, for Thursdays Fridays and Saturdays. They're pretty much the equivalent of a house show, so long as too many of your workers aren't under contract to other bigger promotions. </p><p> </p><p> The extra booking work is the only downside, but if you don't mind that, then its a good way to expand faster and get some sizable income flowing.</p>

[Adam Ryland]

Please stop arguing about the seven million figure - it's ridiculous that people are comparing that figure to what real promotions have (the finances are nothing alike) or how the figure is "too high" \ "impossible" for the game (firstly none of you have any idea what the finances are like in TEW2010, and secondly do you not think that maybe we test these figures to see how they work???). Testing shows that the figure works well, and if it turns out that it's unpopular once it's released it's a very easy alteration.

[Sons of Kohral]

<p>Daddy's angry... <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

Anyway, sick bumps are... well... sick. Will definitely help in my dream for an ultra hardcore, backyard garbage fed. Rooftop of Mom's Garage Match, here we come!</p>

[sebsplex]

<p>So many great features announced already, especially mod-focussed ones. I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on the editor this year, especially with so much added influence on shaping how the world expands.</p><p> </p><p>

On the latest features though. I love the idea of cult promotions being in a position to offer written deals instead of this being an editor-exclusive phenomonen (sp?) and being able to book sick bump spots adds some much welcome additional ability to shape matches. Now at least they won't be restricted to the realms of imagination and diaries. I wonder if Cornell and RDJ would have agreed to the sick scaffold bump I had them take in my old HGC diary?</p>

[cappyboy]

You know with some of the stuff that's been done to offer context to various eras, I wonder if the definition of what a sick bump is will be era specific. Like for instance, Snuka's legendary Superfly off the cage. While it's been topped time and again in the years since then, it would have been regarded as insanely sick at the time. And I imagine the top rope moves we consider routine now might have been viewed as sick back in the WW2 era. I know I don't remember having ever seen any in old clips until you get into the 70's.

[James Casey]

<p>That would tie in with eras, at a guess - and could even be defined by the company's own risk rating. The big 'sick bump of the year' spot(s) in WWE tend to occur during the MITB matches. Ladder assisted SSPs to the floor, Hardy's Swantons from '30 foot' up and that dive onto Edge through the ladder... All those equate to sick bumps by WWE standards, but in CZW (or WEXXV) they'd be big but not sick.</p><p> </p><p>

I wonder for myself whether sick = big, or whether a gimmick match could end gorily without necessarily being ultra-dangerous. Cactus Jack famously getting tied up so badly in barbed wire ring ropes that the match had to be stopped was pretty sick. A similar finish could be done off a bump, but in terms of sick = spectacular, not so much...</p>

[Historian]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="DreamGoddessLindsey" data-cite="DreamGoddessLindsey" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25024" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>You overlook the fact that the game uses much smaller amounts of money than the real world. Do you think Triple H works for $30,000 a month? No, he has a multi-million dollar deal, probably at least $100,000 or more a month. That means all the money amounts are downscaled for playability purposes.<p> </p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> This is the only part of your post that really concerns me. Actually, the game uses a rather inflated economical scale in most aspects.</p><p> </p><p> No independent referee gets paid $1,000 per appearance like I have seen Jay Fair ask for. Your majority of Independent wrestlers are not getting the $600 and $700 salaries that I've seen low-level independent guys such as Eddie Howard or DC Rayne ask for. Your standard Independent wrestler gets paid much less. So, with that said, most of the money being paid out by the Pay-Per-Appearance deals is much larger than it would be in real wrestling, so everything is actually adjusted rather nicely. In TEW, companies pay more money, but they also have more money in the bank than your real life company of the corresponding size. </p><p> </p><p> The TEW scale is actually rather close in terms of national contracts. Occasionally it dips onto the higher side, I feel, but for the most part, it's damn near close. I do not know everyone's individual contracts or anything, but I remember reading or hearing, Ric Flair speak of his contract in WWE where he was getting paid around 400,000 a year guaranteed. He also mentioned that his salary was very large, especially since he was not doing a lot of wrestling. Chris Jericho, in his book "A Lion's Tale" mentions that he was guaranteed 165,000 a year. The top level people in WCW, at Jericho's time, had salaries guarenteed of $750,000 a year, and when he signed his first WWE Contract, it was for a guaranteed $450,000 a year, with incentives and bonuses (also courtesy of his book). Jericho was also brought in with the purpose of being a main event star. If you take Jericho's guaranteed salary and divide it by 12, you get 37,500 a month, awfully close to a 30,000 a month deal. I also remember Bret Hart's deal with WCW was worth over 1 million a year guaranteed, and that was considered unbelievably high. </p><p> </p><p> In regards to Triple H's deal, his contract is worth a considerable amount of money [i do not know the exact figures] at the base level. But his guarentee, I'm willing to bet, is not over $100,000 per month, because that would mean he is guaranteed to make $1,200,000 a year. The bulk of Triple H's money comes from his Pay Per View bonus' and his merchandise cuts. If Triple H is guaranteed to make over $1,200,000 a year, I would be very surprised. I'm more apt to believe that with all the extra incentives he makes over a million a year, but not just on his base guarantee.</p><p> </p><p> Those are my two cents <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png"></p><p> </p><p> P.Ss: Sorry this might be a little late or out-dated, I have been away for the weekend... And, I think the sick bump feature is a very good addition, I'm glad to see it back. It's nice to have in the arsenal of road agent notes.</p><p> </p><p> I think the 7. mil bank is just fine with me. It should be nay-impossible for a Cult level promotion to lock up talent in long-term written deals.</p>

[mike b]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Historian" data-cite="Historian" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25024" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>This is the only part of your post that really concerns me. Actually, the game uses a rather inflated economical scale in most aspects.<p> </p><p> No independent referee gets paid $1,000 per appearance like I have seen Jay Fair ask for. Your majority of Independent wrestlers are not getting the $600 and $700 salaries that I've seen low-level independent guys such as Eddie Howard or DC Rayne ask for. Your standard Independent wrestler gets paid much less. So, with that said, most of the money being paid out by the Pay-Per-Appearance deals is much larger than it would be in real wrestling, so everything is actually adjusted rather nicely. In TEW, companies pay more money, but they also have more money in the bank than your real life company of the corresponding size. </p><p> </p><p> The TEW scale is actually rather close in terms of national contracts. Occasionally it dips onto the higher side, I feel, but for the most part, it's damn near close. I do not know everyone's individual contracts or anything, but I remember reading or hearing, Ric Flair speak of his contract in WWE where he was getting paid around 400,000 a year guaranteed. He also mentioned that his salary was very large, especially since he was not doing a lot of wrestling. Chris Jericho, in his book "A Lion's Tale" mentions that he was guaranteed 165,000 a year. The top level people in WCW, at Jericho's time, had salaries guarenteed of $750,000 a year, and when he signed his first WWE Contract, it was for a guaranteed $450,000 a year, with incentives and bonuses (also courtesy of his book). Jericho was also brought in with the purpose of being a main event star. If you take Jericho's guaranteed salary and divide it by 12, you get 37,500 a month, awfully close to a 30,000 a month deal. I also remember Bret Hart's deal with WCW was worth over 1 million a year guaranteed, and that was considered unbelievably high. </p><p> </p><p> In regards to Triple H's deal, his contract is worth a considerable amount of money [i do not know the exact figures] at the base level. But his guarentee, I'm willing to bet, is not over $100,000 per month, because that would mean he is guaranteed to make $1,200,000 a year. The bulk of Triple H's money comes from his Pay Per View bonus' and his merchandise cuts. If Triple H is guaranteed to make over $1,200,000 a year, I would be very surprised. I'm more apt to believe that with all the extra incentives he makes over a million a year, but not just on his base guarantee.</p><p> </p><p> Those are my two cents <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p> P.Ss: Sorry this might be a little late or out-dated, I have been away for the weekend... And, I think the sick bump feature is a very good addition, I'm glad to see it back. It's nice to have in the arsenal of road agent notes.</p><p> </p><p> I think the 7. mil bank is just fine with me. It should be nay-impossible for a Cult level promotion to lock up talent in long-term written deals.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Actualy HHH makes over 2 million a year</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://wwecharacters.blogspot.com/2007/04/wwe-wrestler-salaries.html" rel="external nofollow">http://wwecharacters.blogspot.com/2007/04/wwe-wrestler-salaries.html</a></p>

[Comradebot]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mike b" data-cite="mike b" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25024" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Actualy HHH makes over 2 million a year<p> </p><p> <a href="http://wwecharacters.blogspot.com/2007/04/wwe-wrestler-salaries.html" rel="external nofollow">http://wwecharacters.blogspot.com/2007/04/wwe-wrestler-salaries.html</a></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think that 2 mill is achieved thanks to his cut of merchandise/ppv money, and no clue if it includes all the other perks listed next to it. The article kind of alludes to that being the case. I don't believe he makes two million dollars a year, PLUS a cut of merchandise and/or PPV sales.</p>

[crayon]

<p>Loove the new booking statistics split. Should make good for giving AI promotions their own personality, such as "oh man, how do these guys wind up booking this monkey crap?".</p><p> </p><p>

Wonder how well it'll be able to simulate the wwe crapfests which managed to stop me watching them several years ago <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[King Chono]

I enjoyed Adam's example of Russo. Before I even finished the paragraph that's who I thought of. This will be a great feature, Shohei Baba is someone I'd use an example for the opposite, only puro fans and Dave Meltzer really give him any credit, but he was probably the best booker on the planet from 1988-his death in 1999, but it's also unlikely he would have been hired anywhere else in the world had he left AJPW. This feature will really allow more realistic historical mods, as if every other feature Adam's announced doesn't do this already.

[1PWfan]

I'm a fan of this one too- I tend to prefer the smaller features that enrich the universe, rather than changine it.