The Official WWE / NXT Discussion Thread *May Contain Spoilers*

[smurphy1014]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Crychon" data-cite="Crychon" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I dunno, Roman has a pretty heelish beard now, anything could happen. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It has been proven that the Goatee is the true sign of evil. Perhaps the beard is just step one towards that. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Russelrules44]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="smurphy1014" data-cite="smurphy1014" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>It has been proven that the Goatee is the true sign of evil. Perhaps the beard is just step one towards that. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Today the beard....</p><p> Tomorrow the goatee....</p><p> And then, THE WORLD!</p>

[Alan James]

Fear the beard.

[Russelrules44]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Alan James" data-cite="Alan James" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Fear the beard.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yes, we must fear the- Hey, wait a minute. Didn't Daniel Bryan have an awesome beard at one point? And he wasn't heel for that time?</p>

[Alan James]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Russelrules44" data-cite="Russelrules44" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yes, we must fear the- Hey, wait a minute. Didn't Daniel Bryan have an awesome beard at one point? And he wasn't heel for that time?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yes indeed. </p><p> </p><p> Daniel didn't have a good beard or bad beard, he had thee beard. But in the classic sense, beard = bad, I think. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[K-Nection]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Alan James" data-cite="Alan James" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Yes indeed. <p> </p><p> Daniel didn't have a good beard or bad beard, he had thee beard. But in the classic sense, beard = bad, I think. <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Well the announcers continue to try to paint a sympathy angle for Roman which makes for very strange TV when the fans are dumping all over him...did anyone else hear the unnatural piped in Roman chants. It was jarring because the crowd was pretty silent looking during them.</p>

[Alan James]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well the announcers continue to try to paint a sympathy angle for Roman which makes for very strange TV when the fans are dumping all over him...did anyone else hear the unnatural piped in Roman chants. It was jarring because the crowd was pretty silent looking during them.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> They continue to try in vain.</p>

[smurphy1014]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well the announcers continue to try to paint a sympathy angle for Roman which makes for very strange TV when the fans are dumping all over him...did anyone else hear the unnatural piped in Roman chants. It was jarring because the crowd was pretty silent looking during them.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Didn't see Raw last night but I did notice the crowd volume did seem lower on Sunday at the PPV when he made his entrance. They need to just go and turn Roman heel. Just lose it like he did after Survivor Series, just destroying everyone.</p>

[Erock]

"Zack Ryder was off his game tonight."

[Dave_Scott]

"Zack Ryder was off his game tonight."

 

"The locker room was a bit frustrated with Kalisto (Sin Cara according to JBL) for sweating on the turnbuckle, causing Zack Ryder to mess up a spot."

[Jaysin]

Shelton Benjamin is coming back and he's going to Smackdown.

 

Who needs lame Brock Lesnar when you have one of the most exciting performers of the last decade or so on your brand?

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Jaysin" data-cite="Jaysin" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Shelton Benjamin is coming back and he's going to Smackdown.<p> </p><p> Who needs lame Brock Lesnar when you have one of the most exciting performers of the last decade or so on your brand?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> That women's segment looked so forced...I like the draft concept but it has been executed poorly, which means WWE Style. But it has potential and once both brands are set this could be very good. Some differences are already visible. And heck, when was the last time I watched Smackdown for the value of Smackdown itself? Hope this keeps evolving well.</p>

[liontamer]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Alan James" data-cite="Alan James" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Fear the beard.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> hey.... it's not a good beard.... its not a bad beard... it's the beard</p>

[K-Nection]

Holy crap the Female Roman Reigns (Eva Marie) is finally a heel! And my jaw fell to the floor when I seen her open that coat....I have to remember I'm a married man.

[shawn michaels]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Holy crap the Female Roman Reigns (Eva Marie) is finally a heel! And my jaw fell to the floor when I seen her open that coat....I have to remember I'm a married man.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> If only she could wrestle. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[K-Nection]

<p>I think it's official....I think I like Smackdown more. There is things about RAW I like and it's alot but Smackdown is the one I favor.</p><p> </p><p>

I only have one thing to complain about and that is how can Zack Ryder screw up his own finishing move?</p>

[Rickymex]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="shawn michaels 82" data-cite="shawn michaels 82" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>If only she could wrestle. <img alt=":D" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/biggrin.png.929299b4c121f473b0026f3d6e74d189.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> She gets enough heat that she's useful to pass some babyface fire to those who need it. It's kind of like passing overness by spamming menace angles on a wrestler to do the job.</p>

[thecoolestjedi12]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I think it's official....I think I like Smackdown more. There is things about RAW I like and it's alot but Smackdown is the one I favor.<p> </p><p> I only have one thing to complain about and that is how can Zack Ryder screw up his own finishing move?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Seeing Dolph win a big match was enough to convert me, though Finn was a real heart pull on which show I prefer more</p>

[Rone Rivendale]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> I only have one thing to complain about and that is how can Zack Ryder screw up his own finishing move?</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> As stated earlier in the thread, a sweaty turnbunckle caused by Kalisto.</p>

[dvdWarrior]

<p>Never thought I'd say this, but I thought Raw was really good this week, enjoyed the whole show. SmackDown! for me was all right, but it had a little more talking than I was expecting/hoping for. I just liked Raw better.</p><p> </p><p>

This 'new era' thing might be pretty cool after all.</p>

[mrwhippy]

<p>Well they screwed up Apollo Crews again. If they want to get him over then have him eliminate everyone. But to have Kane (!) throw everyone out and then basically run himself over the top was silly booking.</p><p> </p><p>

Also Ziggler gets a World title shot basically because there's no one else? And to have Styles eat a pin when he didn't even take the finisher? Odd.</p><p> </p><p>

I was way more hyped for SmackDown after the draft but I'm a RAW convert already on the basis of this week. Shane and DB are just awkward and annoying.</p>

[K-Nection]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Rone Rivendale" data-cite="Rone Rivendale" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>As stated earlier in the thread, a sweaty turnbunckle caused by Kalisto.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Was Kalisto so sweaty that it caused Ryder to whiff that dropkick only 2 minutes before? I like Ryder and atleast he had the presence of mind to jump on his opponent and lay in punches to attempt to cover them up.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Well they screwed up Apollo Crews again. If they want to get him over then have him eliminate everyone. But to have Kane (!) throw everyone out and then basically run himself over the top was silly booking.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Not necessarily....in a battle royal you want several people to get a rub in different ways. If you give the glory all to one person then you fail at what a Battle Royal is meant to do. They have a smaller roster on Smackdown and still need to have most of them look dangerous. Think about how you book in TEW do you always give the most eliminations to the winner or do you give it to somebody you want to be a threat later on? If it was me booking that Battle Royal I probably would have subbed Erik Rowan in Kane's spot but that is just nitpicking.</p>

[TheCrippler]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="mrwhippy" data-cite="mrwhippy" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> Also Ziggler gets a World title shot basically because there's no one else? And to have Styles eat a pin when he didn't even take the finisher? Odd.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I always thought that Ziggler deserved another run with the title. He is a great worker in the ring and has charisma and it seems the fans are behind him. Plus he can play the face or heel role really well. I am looking forward to the match between him and Ambrose at Summerslam, I just wonder if one of them is going to turn heel or AJ somehow gets involved.</p>

[mrwhippy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="K-Nection" data-cite="K-Nection" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Not necessarily....in a battle royal you want several people to get a rub in different ways. If you give the glory all to one person then you fail at what a Battle Royal is meant to do. They have a smaller roster on Smackdown and still need to have most of them look dangerous. Think about how you book in TEW do you always give the most eliminations to the winner or do you give it to somebody you want to be a threat later on? If it was me booking that Battle Royal I probably would have subbed Erik Rowan in Kane's spot but that is just nitpicking.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Yeah I get that, but why Kane? Do they think it would add to Crews' credibility by have him eliminate Kane? I for one am not any more invested in Apollo Crews after last night.</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TheCrippler" data-cite="TheCrippler" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I always thought that Ziggler deserved another run with the title. He is a great worker in the ring and has charisma and it seems the fans are behind him. Plus he can play the face or heel role really well. I am looking forward to the match between him and Ambrose at Summerslam, I just wonder if one of them is going to turn heel or AJ somehow gets involved.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I'm not against Ziggler being the man to have the match, per se. But they haven't built him in any way, shape or form so in my opinion it just devalues the match, the title and the opponents in the Six-Way. Unless there's a massive swerve or turn in the works then it'll end up being a throwaway match in the Summerslam midcard which makes absolutely no sense considering they made such a big thing about Ambrose being their #1 and bringing the title to SmackDown.</p><p> </p><p> I don't mean to come across as a moaner. I love the direction RAW is headed and with the likes of Ambrose, Wyatt, Styles, Orton and Cena, SmackDown has great potential too. Just not a great kickoff for the Blue on the back of a pretty flawless RAW. I've not enjoyed WWE this much in a couple of years.</p>

[sabataged]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TheCrippler" data-cite="TheCrippler" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25169" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I always thought that Ziggler deserved another run with the title. He is a great worker in the ring and has charisma and it seems the fans are behind him. Plus he can play the face or heel role really well. I am looking forward to the match between him and Ambrose at Summerslam, I just wonder if one of them is going to turn heel or AJ somehow gets involved.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Ziggler has no change in hell of winning the title off of Ambrose. THis is just a filler. Ambrose is having a nice run and he won't lose it until AJ Styles or Bray Wyatt most likely. WWE is just giving the fans what they want for once, which is a solid in ring performance. No one in the business outside of AJ Styles gives us as good of a match as Ziggler</p>