TakerNGN74 Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Calling the Wrestlemania 27 Main Event: Cody Rhodes and Mike Tyson vs S and The Tooth Gap. Wrestlemania 27 already happened dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Maybe the press release from USA network will help confirm that viewership in TV is way down from 1999, so with the adjusted ratings kept in mind, WWE is actually doing very well. Buyrates are still low... but thats another matter entirely. There was no such thing as justin.tv and webstreaming live ppvs in 1999 either. http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/USA_Network_Touts_The_Most_Watched_Qaurter_In_The_History_Of_Cable_TV.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 SD was okay, not as good as some recent shows. Mark Henry is still on fire. The fans love Air Boom. Sin Cara #2 makes a Mistico reference and unveils a new costume. Happy that Sheamus didn't get pushed down to a midcard title reign. Zack Ryder's getting a sort-of push! Orton and Christian again??? Decent match but I didn't need to see them wrestle again so soon. As for Mania and the Undertaker: I'm not sure Sheamus should be taking him on so soon after a face turn but they could work a good match. Daniel Bryan would work because he could keep Taker grounded on the match so he doesn't kill himself, with Bryan desperately trying to make Taker submit. My pick would be Miz/Truth v Taker handicap match. Truth ends up turning on Miz so he can get the pin only for Taker to Toimbstone them both. Could be a fun match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakerNGN74 Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 SD was okay, not as good as some recent shows. Mark Henry is still on fire. The fans love Air Boom. Sin Cara #2 makes a Mistico reference and unveils a new costume. Happy that Sheamus didn't get pushed down to a midcard title reign. Zack Ryder's getting a sort-of push! Orton and Christian again??? Decent match but I didn't need to see them wrestle again so soon. As for Mania and the Undertaker: I'm not sure Sheamus should be taking him on so soon after a face turn but they could work a good match. Daniel Bryan would work because he could keep Taker grounded on the match so he doesn't kill himself, with Bryan desperately trying to make Taker submit. My pick would be Miz/Truth v Taker handicap match. Truth ends up turning on Miz so he can get the pin only for Taker to Toimbstone them both. Could be a fun match. I think WM 28 would probably be the last time Taker wrestled at Mania (he might retire after WM 28 at least thats how I see it) but if WM 28 was his last match I don't think having him go 20-0 in a handicap match would be the way to go. He had a handicap match at WM 19 against A-Train and Nathan Jones and not a lot of people probably even remember that this match even happened. So for his last match to mean something it should be a singles match in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Century Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I think WM 28 would probably be the last time Taker wrestled at Mania (he might retire after WM 28 at least thats how I see it) but if WM 28 was his last match I don't think having him go 20-0 in a handicap match would be the way to go. He had a handicap match at WM 19 against A-Train and Nathan Jones and not a lot of people probably even remember that this match even happened. So for his last match to mean something it should be a singles match in my opinion. I actually loved that one match at WM19. He was actually against The Big Show and A-Train. If I recall correctly Nathan Jones was supposed to be Taker's tag partner, but they changed that with a quick beatdown angle on the Sunday Night Heat right before the PPV. It was a good big man match IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eayragt Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I actually loved that one match at WM19. He was actually against The Big Show and A-Train. If I recall correctly Nathan Jones was supposed to be Taker's tag partner, but they changed that with a quick beatdown angle on the Sunday Night Heat right before the PPV. It was a good big man match IMO. That's the one. WWE, who have had celebraties and announcers wrestle on PPV, decided that professional wrestler Nathan Jones sucked too much to even wrestle a tag team match. They did let him come out to "hit" a spinning kick on Big Show... I say "hit" loosely as rarely have I seen a kick miss by that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tha Black Phenom Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 This PPV tonight is my biggest WWE pet peeve ever but I still hope it's a good event and that Henry retains and solidifies himself here. Another staple monster heel wouldn't be bad, everyone else(Kane, Show, Taker) is fading away. And I guess they halted on Big Zeke, and God knows what they're doing with Mason Ryan. I think WM 28 would probably be the last time Taker wrestled at Mania (he might retire after WM 28 at least thats how I see it) but if WM 28 was his last match I don't think having him go 20-0 in a handicap match would be the way to go. He had a handicap match at WM 19 against A-Train and Nathan Jones and not a lot of people probably even remember that this match even happened. So for his last match to mean something it should be a singles match in my opinion. Personally, I don't see why it couldn't be a handicap match, with the right people and the right storyline/build/momentum it could pass on as pretty memorable. That said, it's pretty hard to figure how to get it right so I wouldn't count on it happening, but if they had a decent idea on the back of their minds, something like Awesome Truth vying to end the streak or a similar 'potential' duo, it could work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakerNGN74 Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 This PPV tonight is my biggest WWE pet peeve ever but I still hope it's a good event and that Henry retains and solidifies himself here. Another staple monster heel wouldn't be bad, everyone else(Kane, Show, Taker) is fading away. And I guess they halted on Big Zeke, and God knows what they're doing with Mason Ryan. Personally, I don't see why it couldn't be a handicap match, with the right people and the right storyline/build/momentum it could pass on as pretty memorable. That said, it's pretty hard to figure how to get it right so I wouldn't count on it happening, but if they had a decent idea on the back of their minds, something like Awesome Truth vying to end the streak or a similar 'potential' duo, it could work. I am not saying it couldn't work but for me its just more of a personal preference I would rather see Takers last match at Mania be a singles match then a handicap match. That's just me though and the WWE will do whatever they want to do. and @WrestlingCentury thats the one I was thinking about but I may have got the participants mixed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I see where you're comming from. A "Taker versus one opponent" match definately is more dramatic and means more. Problem is, no one knows what shape he's in or how good he can perform. There's rumors all over the place so we'll just have to see when he comes back I guess. If he can't perform well, they'll have lots of people involved and overbookt he crap out of it to make it more memorable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostDogg Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Awfully Quiet tonight.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FINisher Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Why the hell did I order the PPV? Seriously. Crowd utterly sucked, so did the matches. Ending was a failure, hopefully the payoff will be something great but I have my doubts. Not sure if I liked ANY of the matches tonight. What the hell happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestling Century Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Why the hell did I order the PPV? Seriously. Crowd utterly sucked, so did the matches. Ending was a failure, hopefully the payoff will be something great but I have my doubts. Not sure if I liked ANY of the matches tonight. What the hell happened? What was the ending? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FINisher Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Del Rio's ring announcer unlocks the HIAC door, comes in with a lead pipe, Cena blocks him, gets him on his shoulders and leaves the cage, FU's him outside the HIAC but then gets blindsided by Del Rio, who locks the cage leaving Cena out. CM Punk had just crashed trough a table prior to that. Del Rio hits CM Punk with the lead pipe across the face and pins him 1-2-3. Cena storms in the cage as it's being lifted, then two hoodies jump into the ring and start beating all three + referees etc., turns out it's Miz and R-Truth. Suddenly the HIAC cage lowers back down and the whole roster tries to get inside to no avail. Triple H and John Laureanatis rush in with the whole roster and the police too, finally they cut the lock open and police rush in and arrest Miz and Truth. When they're being escorted Triple H assaults the two and he gets arrested too, he also punches/pushes Laureanatis away. All matches were below *** and the crowd was dead troughout. Sin Cara vs. Sin Cara was filled with 'boring' and it was. Their chemistry was awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldStingberg Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Anytime you have the chance to end three straight PPVs with screwy finishes that create more questions than answers, all the while jerking around two of your few potential superstars (Punk and Del Rio), and cheapen the WWE Championship even more, you've gotta take it. I can't imagine what could possibly go wrong in that situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borman_48 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I just going to quote a little nugget of info that I found on former WWE writer Dave Lagana's twitter. Kinda sums up the current state of the WWE. WWE Title changed hands 8 times times in the last 78 days. 1978 to 1989 the WWE Title changed hands 7 times There's a time and place for hotshotting titles, but 8 changes in 2 and a half months? Gracious. Not quite sure if they are trying to show that all 3 are equally matched or what, but I'm not 100% sure its working anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakerNGN74 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I thought that the pay per view was good tonight, I thought that the main event was really overbooked towards the end. However it was a lot better than the match a few years ago between Kane and The Undertaker because the finish in that match was horrible IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysin Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I just going to quote a little nugget of info that I found on former WWE writer Dave Lagana's twitter. Kinda sums up the current state of the WWE. There's a time and place for hotshotting titles, but 8 changes in 2 and a half months? Gracious. Not quite sure if they are trying to show that all 3 are equally matched or what, but I'm not 100% sure its working anymore. Since Edge vacated the title, the World title has changed hands four times. And this part is strictly because one thing TNA bashers tend to use as an argument is how they "hot shot" the belt around, well their world title has only changed hands three times in that same time period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatChizzle Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I loved it when Cody brought out a new version of the old school Intercontinental Title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FINisher Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 WWE Title changed hands 8 times in the last 78 days. 1978 to 1989 the WWE Title changed hands 7 times I almost cried when I read that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teh_Showtime Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 that is irrelevant. There was hardly any TV play back then. Compare it to the attitude Era when there were the same amount of PPVs and how the TV format changed with the Monday Night Wars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milamber Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Christian v Sheamus - Strong opening match. Sin Cara v Sin Cara - Fun but repetitive with all the head scissors and arm drags. Air Boom v Ziggler/Swagger - Fun match again with a good finish. Henry v Orton - A cell match was the perfect way to hide Henry's flaws and have him and Orton unload on each other. Second best match of the night. Rhodes v Morrison - I love how they're using Cody to make the Intercontinental Title more prestigious. I smell a streak brewing. Beth v Kelly - I actually enjoyed this one. Del Rio v Punk v Cena - Epic! Good in-ring psychology and a some killer spots towards the end (Punk through the table, Cena locked out ensuring he wouldn't retain). Match of the night. Awesome Truth are now a hundred times better than Nexus ever were and JR's commentary was priceless. Solid PPV all the way through and more memorable than Night of Champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldStingberg Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I do like what they're doing with Rhodes. He's a guy that should be main eventing, but since Henry's doing such a good job, it makes a lot of sense to keep Rhodes with the IC title for a while, building up both Rhodes and the IC title. I watched the OMG DVD yesterday. I was pretty disappointed all the commentary was done in character. I thought that made it much less interesting than it could have been. But it was still a worthwhile watch on Netflix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTandSilentBob Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I also enjoyed the HiaC ppv. The crowd was the worst thing about the ppv for me. They killed any momentum the Sin Cara match could have had. I'm very anxious to watch raw tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookerman Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Last PPV that didn't have a WWE title change....Capitol Punishment...in June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Just flicked on Raw for the first time in god knows how long...and was instantly reminded why I don't. Video of two guys attacking people with bats after a match. The two guys get arrested. Other guy punches them while they're in cuffs. The two guys press charges for assault. I know they're going for a younger audience than when I was watching as a teen...but I'm pretty sure there are 10 year old scratching their heads at that one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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