The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

[Nedew]

(I don't need my ass heated. It's warm enough. Thanks though! ).

 

Well, that's my dream job gone then

[Self]

I might check out this PPV. Even though the idea of Joe vs Daniels vs Styles for the title deeply offends me as a storyteller, it'll probably thrill me as a fan of wrestling matches. I've been YouTubing a lot of Wolfie's segments, still waiting to be sold on the guy, but have been pretty unimpressed thus far. Maybe this'll turn it around.

 

P.S. I would have killed to have seat warmers in my car this morning. Literally. If the devil had showed up offering them to me in exchange for ganking the postman, I would have shown up to work covered in blood, with an extremely warm arse.

[thommohawk]

I have to say that Angle vs Wolfe was a fantastic straight up wrestling match, it's also the first time I've seen McGuiness wrestle and he's pretty good I have to say I was impressed - being English myself I love the guy lol - calling the crowd wankers = golden! lol.

 

But that main event triple threat match was absolutely ubelievable! That shooting star type move where AJ skinned the top rope was insane. I've really been getting into TNA these last couple of years, been watching it almost religiously for the past 8 months due to the consistency of what I consider great wrestling matches. WWE to me is boring, I haven't watched WWE properly for a long time, only snippets - Edge, CM Punk and Orton are their best talents right now....Taker vs Michaels was previously the best match I'd seen this year - but that triple threat was really good! Definitely a great advert for TNA.

 

Let's hope the quality of this PPV is a big indication of the direction they are going in. I thought it was interesting how the crowd in the iMPACT zone made it clear to Dixie in the main event that this is what they want (quality wrestling matches without overbooking) and to screw Hogan (if it's wcw 2.0) and I think the superlatives and crowd reaction speaks volumes and I'm sure Dixie Carter is listening intently, so with any luck she's found the firm direction to go in. The crowd made it pretty clear.

[stratusfaction]

Completely random...but this is the TNA thread...

 

I just want to say how much I really don't like LACEY VON ERICH! She is pretty sure but she is a HORRIBLE wrestler! I want Angelina Love to come back and kick Lacey's a$$ out of The Beautiful People and out of TNA!

[Remianen]

Completely random...but this is the TNA thread...

 

I just want to say how much I really don't like LACEY VON ERICH! She is pretty sure but she is a HORRIBLE wrestler! I want Angelina Love to come back and kick Lacey's a$$ out of The Beautiful People and out of TNA!

 

Well yeah, but she fits the theme of that group. The Beautiful People has always been a group of women known more for their looks than their in-ring ability. They're TNA's version of the Divas. I thought that was obvious.

 

Lacey fits them perfectly. Though Madison Rayne can wrestle decently, she's not anywhere near the league of a Kong or Tara or Melissa or Sarah Stock or Ayako Hamada or even Shantelle. But she's the capable one in the group and the other two are serviceable at best. All Lacey has to do is be tall and vaguely menacing (in a 'Mean Girls' kinda way).

[Hyde Hill]

I do hope this puts them out of the title picture for a while though and gives Alissa and Ayako more time. And yeah the BP where never great wrestlers but LVE is just awfull and I really mis the chemistry between love and Velvet in promos.

[Self]

I'm watching Turning Point now (work sure got a lot more fun since I got my own office) and I just watched the Beautiful People match. I liked it. I really didn't think this show would make me want to watch Impact again, but this match kinda did. I knock TNA a lot, but the Knockouts just have more personallity (well... gimmicks) than the Divas, and I dig that.

 

Lacey was well protected, she didn't embarrass herself. I've always liked Velvet in a 'wrestling skill has nothing to do with it' kinda way. Madison totally won me over in that match. After reading Remi's positive review I was looking extra closely at her, and she seems pretty good. She was the one taking all of Taylor & Sarita's high flying spots and she bumped off ODB's clotheslines like she was getting hit by a frieght train. Solid heel work. Making the babyfaces look good.

 

Also, I like the Sarita/Taylor team. They remind me of early Motor City Machine Guns in the way that they are two vaguely similar workers, put into a team seemingly at random, but have thrown themselves totally into it with matching outfits and dual poses. It's very cute.

[rodzillahotrod]

just finished watching the show myself today. i thought it was great i skipped a few spots like the lashley match. though i was shocked from my predictions of the winners i really cant believe they had stiener beat lashley with a freaking steel pole was very lame. im a lil confussed that kong lost, for one odb has acted like she was turning heel and then stayed face (she was attacking tara a lil if u remember) which is fine with me but they built kong up so much to lose to tara which is what i dont understand y have another odb vs tara fued? dont get me wrong i love tara but we havent seen a odb vs kong match in a while and it will be the first one with odb being the champ. im also surprised there was no interferences or dq's i really though kim was going to attack tara or the mystery guy attack aj. the angle match was freaking awesome it was up there with one of angles best matches and tnas best matches imo. did anyone catch the name of the moved aj did the shooting star to the outside, the announcers called it something it was great though i think it was one of the best spots on the match. does anyone else feel like this kevin nash thing is a set up? i really dont think hogans going to ally himself with nash again right off the bat....

[Hyde Hill]

Yeah only naming him Hulk instead of the full name could be a set up for someone else. Tara vs. ODB hasn't been done for the title as a true feud yet though there was just some tension going into the BFG three way. I agree that Kong still should have gone over though and Steiner winning was weird but it gives extra legs to the feud so did 3D and Rhino winning which was the other surprise imho plus that it wasn't a streetfight as semi advertised.

[Self]

The "Shooting Star" that AJ did was a Fosbury Flop. It's not a wacky name for a cool move, but rather the technical term for how high jumpers clear the bar in modern athletics. It's so named because it was popularised and perfected by Dick Fosbury in 1968.

 

The rest of the show was fun. Nigel needs to work on his kick outs. They look really weak. The finish of Beer Money/British Invasion/MCMG just made me not want to watch TNA ever again. Really fun match spoiled by a ridiculous ending involving two characters I have no interest in seeing.

[Wrestling Century]

Well yeah, but she fits the theme of that group. The Beautiful People has always been a group of women known more for their looks than their in-ring ability. They're TNA's version of the Divas. I thought that was obvious.

 

Lacey fits them perfectly. Though Madison Rayne can wrestle decently, she's not anywhere near the league of a Kong or Tara or Melissa or Sarah Stock or Ayako Hamada or even Shantelle. But she's the capable one in the group and the other two are serviceable at best. All Lacey has to do is be tall and vaguely menacing (in a 'Mean Girls' kinda way).

 

Angelina Love could wrestle, but after she got fired now their stable is sort of falling apart. Then again, maybe their stable ending would be for the best. They were entertaining when Angelina was there, but now they are just annoying IMO.

[rodzillahotrod]

The "Shooting Star" that AJ did was a Fosbury Flop. It's not a wacky name for a cool move, but rather the technical term for how high jumpers clear the bar in modern athletics. It's so named because it was popularised and perfected by Dick Fosbury in 1968.

 

The rest of the show was fun. Nigel needs to work on his kick outs. They look really weak. The finish of Beer Money/British Invasion/MCMG just made me not want to watch TNA ever again. Really fun match spoiled by a ridiculous ending involving two characters I have no interest in seeing.

thanks thats a kick ash move thats only my 2nd time seeing it.

Yeah only naming him Hulk instead of the full name could be a set up for someone else. Tara vs. ODB hasn't been done for the title as a true feud yet though there was just some tension going into the BFG three way. I agree that Kong still should have gone over though and Steiner winning was weird but it gives extra legs to the feud so did 3D and Rhino winning which was the other surprise imho plus that it wasn't a streetfight as semi advertised.

yea tara and odb hasnt fued for the title but its still a face vs face but i think their turning odb for this, but i really think kong got screwed they should of had kong win beat odb and then either had a 3 way match for the title or a rematch with tara but now we might see it reversed hopefully tara wins and feuds in a 3 way or with kong again

Angelina Love could wrestle, but after she got fired now their stable is sort of falling apart. Then again, maybe their stable ending would be for the best. They were entertaining when Angelina was there, but now they are just annoying IMO.

 

tbp wasnt bad until lve showed up i usually dont mind crappy wrestlers long as they have something going for them they could do in the ring or on the mic but imo she has nothing i dont even think she looks that good imo shes the ugliest out of all tbp. i say they just need to either add one more girl maybe even add the melissa girl (kongs former manager i really dont think ive seen her actual face but shes still a great wrestler and has a body) or ditch lve and keep it 2 people until the find a better replacement or love comes back

[liontamer]

missed the last impact, but I found out they are posting them free on spikes site now so I'm part way through. Have to say it's the hottest TV crowd I think I've heard on their show. I don't know if it was the opening segment that got the crowd started, or if they planted mics or whatever. But the crowd has been active non stop.

[Wrestling Century]

 

tbp wasnt bad until lve showed up i usually dont mind crappy wrestlers long as they have something going for them they could do in the ring or on the mic but imo she has nothing i dont even think she looks that good imo shes the ugliest out of all tbp. i say they just need to either add one more girl maybe even add the melissa girl (kongs former manager i really dont think ive seen her actual face but shes still a great wrestler and has a body) or ditch lve and keep it 2 people until the find a better replacement or love comes back

 

Melissa was Awesome Kong's manager, but she's also Alissa Flash. She's doing fine with her current gimmick. I just don't like the direction they are taking The Beautiful People. None of those three are good on the mic IMO. Sorry about that kinda-rant!

[Self]

thanks thats a kick ash move thats only my 2nd time seeing it.

 

You should check out the Summer Olympics. It'll blow you mind.

 

I'm half joking. It did look really cool. I'm just surprised anyone can find it that impressive as I was taught how to do that in High School. I'm guessing it wasn't a standard technique taught all around the globe though.

[Wrestling Century]

Anybody else think that Sting will do some more matches?

[Remianen]

Angelina Love could wrestle, but after she got fired now their stable is sort of falling apart. Then again, maybe their stable ending would be for the best. They were entertaining when Angelina was there, but now they are just annoying IMO.

 

For the record, Lauren "Angel" Williams has never been a particularly good in-ring performer. Neither has Talia (Velvet Sky). They've both been either heavily protected by tag team partners (April Hunter, for example) or kept as primarily 'personalities' or 'managers' (go look at OVW/DSW footage when Angel was there).

 

That's not to say they 'suck', just that their strengths don't lie with their in-ring prowess. When you put them in the ring with experienced multi-style vets like Kong, Melissa, Stock, it becomes easily apparent. Many people don't know that Kong has really good charisma and could work a gimmick akin to Mark Henry's 'Sexual Chocolate'. But that's not where her typical strength lies.

 

Personally, I think the best addition for TNA would be Tiana Ringer, if she's done getting her Master's.

 

i say they just need to either add one more girl maybe even add the melissa girl (kongs former manager i really dont think ive seen her actual face but shes still a great wrestler and has a body) or ditch lve and keep it 2 people until the find a better replacement or love comes back

 

erm, rod? Melissa = Alissa Flash = Raisha Saeed She was working twice a show for some time now (often playing jobber as Alissa Flash).

[rodzillahotrod]

Melissa was Awesome Kong's manager, but she's also Alissa Flash. She's doing fine with her current gimmick. I just don't like the direction they are taking The Beautiful People. None of those three are good on the mic IMO. Sorry about that kinda-rant!

 

erm, rod? Melissa = Alissa Flash = Raisha Saeed She was working twice a show for some time now (often playing jobber as Alissa Flash).

 

lol sorry like i said guys i never looked her up to actually see her face i thought she was going to be stuck in that gimmick a lot longer to even care to see her face. well shes awesome and i still think she could fit in with the gimmick she has now yea she might not be a tbp in looks but i could see the gimmick working with tbs.

 

You should check out the Summer Olympics. It'll blow you mind.

 

I'm half joking. It did look really cool. I'm just surprised anyone can find it that impressive as I was taught how to do that in High School. I'm guessing it wasn't a standard technique taught all around the globe though.

 

what school u from? us ohio people dont get privileged with things like that my first year of high school was the first time they had a soccer team and a swim team so just to give u an example lol. so ur a gymnast? well id still like to see u try that jump over the ring ropes and take some guy out with out hurting him or u now thats whats impressive besides the fact the shooting stars r hard enough to do let alone right over a ring rope with just jumping. now u can do that i'd be even more impressed . maybe since u know how to do it ur not looking at everything everyone else is looking at, just think how long they was already wrestling and possible how slippery that mat could of been from everyones sweat and for him to hit it perfect like that without getting hurt is amazing if i was still a lil kid i would of flipped seeing that...

[Self]

what school u from? us ohio people dont get privileged with things like that my first year of high school was the first time they had a soccer team and a swim team so just to give u an example lol. so ur a gymnast? well id still like to see u try that jump over the ring ropes and take some guy out with out hurting him or u now thats whats impressive besides the fact the shooting stars r hard enough to do let alone right over a ring rope with just jumping. now u can do that i'd be even more impressed . maybe since u know how to do it ur not looking at everything everyone else is looking at, just think how long they was already wrestling and possible how slippery that mat could of been from everyones sweat and for him to hit it perfect like that without getting hurt is amazing if i was still a lil kid i would of flipped seeing that...

 

I wasn't saying it in a negative way, or to sound superior. I'm genuinely surprised that the 'Fosbury Flop' isn't a thing that people automatically know. Then again, I'm British, so I probably went through a vastly different curriculum than most folks in the world.

 

Also not trying to take anything away from AJ either. He's a physical freak. However... I think I could probably do it. I'm no gymnast. I haven't flopped for several years. I'm not even particularly tall. Still, give me a couple of goes practice and I reckon I could clear those ropes. Could I land properly? Probably not. Could I do it without hurting Joe & Daniels? Perhaps not. Could I do it in the middle of a wrestling match? Oh God no. Never said I could.

 

AJ is awesome, it just makes me chuckle to see folks this excited about such an 'exotic' move. Not just you, but I've been on other forums that were completely marking out.

[Nedew]

'Fosbury Flop'? Let's stop giving it a fancy name, it's a freakin' high jump I am seriously amazed if American schools don't do High Jump.

[rodzillahotrod]

I wasn't saying it in a negative way, or to sound superior. I'm genuinely surprised that the 'Fosbury Flop' isn't a thing that people automatically know. Then again, I'm British, so I probably went through a vastly different curriculum than most folks in the world.

 

Also not trying to take anything away from AJ either. He's a physical freak. However... I think I could probably do it. I'm no gymnast. I haven't flopped for several years. I'm not even particularly tall. Still, give me a couple of goes practice and I reckon I could clear those ropes. Could I land properly? Probably not. Could I do it without hurting Joe & Daniels? Perhaps not. Could I do it in the middle of a wrestling match? Oh God no. Never said I could.

 

AJ is awesome, it just makes me chuckle to see folks this excited about such an 'exotic' move. Not just you, but I've been on other forums that were completely marking out.

 

'Fosbury Flop'? Let's stop giving it a fancy name, it's a freakin' high jump I am seriously amazed if American schools don't do High Jump.

 

thats because american schools dont have enough money, its a shame that most countrys have better stuff then us just look at chine those kids r way smarter then i am and their peobably learning stuff i learn in 12th grade (last year of high school) at grade 6 (middle school for us) its sucks i really hated being in school i always felt smarter then most kids i didnt even try i slept for most of every class i only struggled in english as u guys can probably tell from the way i type. u.s. schools r seriously in need for better things i really dont get it we got tobacco taxs and lottery and still nothing. well to get back on the subject i cant wait for this thursday i wonder who machismos facing....i hope its jake the snake roberts so he can call him snake man again lol or how about bird man ko ko beware!

[liontamer]

'Fosbury Flop'? Let's stop giving it a fancy name, it's a freakin' high jump I am seriously amazed if American schools don't do High Jump.

 

We do. I remember it well cuz I stunk at it. I could walk over bars that I'd knock down doing the flop. Lets just say I was not a jumper for long.

[Nedew]

thats because american schools dont have enough money, its a shame that most countrys have better stuff then us just look at chine those kids r way smarter then i am and their peobably learning stuff i learn in 12th grade (last year of high school) at grade 6 (middle school for us) its sucks i really hated being in school i always felt smarter then most kids i didnt even try i slept for most of every class i only struggled in english as u guys can probably tell from the way i type. u.s. schools r seriously in need for better things i really dont get it we got tobacco taxs and lottery and still nothing. well to get back on the subject i cant wait for this thursday i wonder who machismos facing....i hope its jake the snake roberts so he can call him snake man again lol or how about bird man ko ko beware!

 

Your schools might be underfunded, but all you need for high jump is 3 poles! Basically a mini version of your field goals for American football. You sure you didn't just miss your class that day?

[Franchise22]

so.....was the title name change explained or just snuck in there? legends to global....

[thommohawk]

Call it what you want - Olympic Flop, High Fosbury or even the Fosbury Flop lol - whatever you call it it's an awesome looking move that takes a lot of skill and technique to perfect and to do safely, as do most of the flashy moves that AJ does, which is what makes him the literally phenomenal wrestler that he is. Taz was right on commentary during that match - AJ Styles is flawless!

 

I'm just surprised he hasn't done that move more often.....though the way he hit it in the 3 way the other night was picture perfect in how the jump and mid air twist was more sideways on. Looked really good on camera.

 

I often wonder why with matches as good as this people complain about TNA's booking because for me it's not good but it's also not bad, and personally I think TNA is all about the in ring action and when it comes to the actual point which is wrestling TNA is fantastic. Makes you wonder quite how they are going to improve and how they will facilitate this....the actual wrestling isn't the problem and for Hogan to come in and mess with that would be a huge mistake. It's the best part about TNA.

 

Personally I think Hogan will bring in guys like Ken Kennedy and Ric Flair, but TNA is only going to grow properly when they start nabbing proper WWE guys like Chris Jericho when their contracts expire or they get released - it'll never happen but just imagine if TNA brought The Rock back to the wrestling business!

 

I just think the booking needs spicing up a little bit that's all, they could do with Paul Heyman in this regard or a Cyrus The Virus type character....the point I'm making is it might be more compelling to watch the non wrestling segments if they nudged and winked the fact that it's a wrestling show - kind of like how the original ECW on TNN regularly referenced "smart marks" and things like that. Maybe if TNA went more counter culture verbally at least to spice things up.....but saying that, it's been done before.