The Official TNA / Impact / GFW Discussion Thread

[cappyboy]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="jhd1" data-cite="jhd1" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div><p> As I said earlier, I think a re-brand could be a good thing for TNA, but only if they do it properly. Like, by making it obvious if they are rebranding the entire company or not <img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I don't think it's any secret what my feelings on this subject are either. If they really are rebranding and they do it right, then bravura for TNA or Impact Wrestling (good name BTW) or whatever they are calling themselves now. The TNA name was only going to take them so far. Adopting a new brand that more concretely says wrestling can only help them with the uninitiated as it will create less confusion about what their product is intended to be.</p>

[BHK1978]

I was just reading spoilers for the Impact that taped yesterday and let me say that, that show is probably going to be pretty bad. I will not post the spoilers on here but yeah it looks like I might be not watching that episode when it airs.

[Fantabulous]

Wrestling really <em>does</em> matter now in TNA.

[UkWrestleFan]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I was just reading spoilers for the Impact that taped yesterday and let me say that, that show is probably going to be pretty bad. I will not post the spoilers on here but yeah it looks like I might be not watching that episode when it airs.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I <em>really</em> does sound bad...</p>

[sebsplex]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="BHK1978" data-cite="BHK1978" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I was just reading spoilers for the Impact that taped yesterday and let me say that, that show is probably going to be pretty bad. I will not post the spoilers on here but yeah it looks like I might be not watching that episode when it airs.</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> It's always hard to judge a show from a few taping spoilers and I'll probably still watch it regardless, but yeah... new show, new facepalms.</p><p> </p><p> <em>Slight spoiler below...</em></p><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Perhaps Bischoff is getting to the 'rebuilding of the X-Division' he spoke of so passionately in an interview a while ago? </span><img alt=":p" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/tongue.png.ceb643b2956793497cef30b0e944be28.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;"> </span></p><p><span style="color:#FFFFFF;"> And apparently Sangriento is Amazing Red... not sure why.</span></p>

[Bigpapa42]

Rebrand, refocus, rewhatever, but the spoilers sure make it look like the same old TNA. Its really disappointing - if they could just do what they talk about doing, I'd probably start watching again regularly. But with the endless crap (and yes, I realize some people enjoy), I just can't do it.

[sebsplex]

Here's a glance at the new show set-up for anyone interested...

 

http://www.tnastars.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/impact-wrestling-tnastarsdotcom.jpg

 

It's not exactly a radical overhaul, but I like it.

[Fantabulous]

You can't polish a turd.

[Eisen-verse]

<p>I just read something on Wrestlezone.com that best explains the gaping hole that lies between TNA & the WWE...</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>The 5/16 edition of Tough Enough did a 1.6 rating with 2,442,000 viewers. Last weeks edition of Tough Enough also did a 1.6 rating.<p> </p><p> The replay of Tough Enough that aired after Raw did a 1.14 rating with 1,641,000 viewers which is nearly the same as last week.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I love TNA but it's pretty sad when the WWE's reality show ends up beating your flagship program...</p><p> </p><p> TNA pulled around a 1.26 rating.</p>

[Hashasheen]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Eisen-verse" data-cite="Eisen-verse" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>I just read something on Wrestlezone.com that best explains the gaping hole that lies between TNA & the WWE...<p> </p><p> I love TNA but it's pretty sad when the WWE's reality show ends up beating your flagship program...</p><p> </p><p> TNA pulled around a 1.26 rating.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> Differences though. USA Network is much bigger than Spike, and Spike doesn't exactly promote TNA as much as they can. Plus you know, TNA's got plenty of problems.</p>

[juggaloninjalee]

<p>I feel like TNA should air commercials during WWE programs in order to let wrestling fans know there is another wrestling promotion on this other channel.</p><p> </p><p>

Then when people come over to see what it is TNA needs to book shows that make sense.</p>

[Slim Jim]

<p>Tough Enough should be higher <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p><p> </p><p>

Honestly think it's the best wrestling show on TV at the moment.</p>

[sheepy]

So, watching Sacrifice, first time I've watched TNA in a while. Is Crimson a knock off of Goldberg?

[20LEgend]

Not a knock off just another power house getting hyped as a undefeated monster IMO

[Blackman]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="Slim Jim" data-cite="Slim Jim" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Tough Enough should be higher <img alt=":(" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/frown.png.e6b571745a30fe6a6f2e918994141a47.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /><p> </p><p> Honestly think it's the best wrestling show on TV at the moment.</p></div></blockquote><p> </p><p> True at that. I freakin' love it to death. TNA is... well. It's awkward just watching it. <img alt=":)" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/smile.png.142cfa0a1cd2925c0463c1d00f499df2.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Eisen-verse]

<p>From what I've read on wrestlezone, It looks like TNA is continuing to make some really questionable decisions... </p><p> </p><p>

Highlight underneath to find out...</p><p> </p><p>

<span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Abyss is the new X-Division Champion... Really?!?! God, I hope there is a REAL good reason the change was made because this makes no sense to me..</span></p>

[TLLK]

<p>Another nail in the frame of an eventual coffin, E-V.</p><p> </p><p>

I haven't watched a bunch of TNA since the pre-Angle days...I wasn't even around to get my heart ripped out by Hogan and Bischoff.</p><p> </p><p>

That spoiler is garbage if it's true. Who books this stuff? <img alt="" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Eisen-verse]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TheLeviticalLawKid3" data-cite="TheLeviticalLawKid3" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Another nail in the frame of an eventual coffin, E-V.<p> </p><p> </p><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;">I haven't watched a bunch of TNA since the pre-Angle days...I wasn't even around to get my heart ripped out by Hogan and Bischoff.</div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> That spoiler is garbage if it's true. Who books this stuff? </div><img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></div></blockquote><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> I'm hoping, as I haven't read the spoilers all together, mostly cause I want to watch the show and see it unfold, that there is a story behind it all. I'm sure it has something to do with Bischoff and the X-Division wrestlers who spray-painted their car last week. That said, it just seems odd to go that route; unless there is a concrete story that follows. </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> Is it just me or is there a severe lack of basic booking 101 these days? I mean, I know that almost every angle has been done thus far, in a way, but there's nothing wrong with a basic wrestling framework for storytelling... Just adding some new twists into the fold along the way. </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> Meh.</div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> Cheers.</div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><p></p><div style="margin-left:25px;"> </div><div style="margin-left:25px;"><strong><em>E-V</em></strong></div><p></p>

[Bigpapa42]

<p>Another spoiler from the same TNA tapings...</p><p> </p><p>

<span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Bischoff tagged with Matt Hardy against Generation Me... and Bischoff got the pinfall</span></p><p> </p><p>

Its too bad that TNA's talk about "wrestling matters" is likely just talk. I have zero faith in them following through on that. In all fairness, they've hardly had the chance so far... but its not really different from what Hogan has been talking about since they first took over and its never proven to be true. That history combined with what has happened at the most recent tapings hardly gives one faith. </p><p> </p><p>

You are absolutely correct that a return to some booking fundamentals would be a great thing, E-V. </p><p> </p><p>

I would quite honestly just be happy if they really would focus on the wrestling. That change alone would be enough to get me watching against.</p>

[ZMAN]

Yeah, don't see what <span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Eric pinning someone and Abyss winning the X Title is supposed to accomplish.</span> Neither one is going to draw a big rating, so why bother doing it? I guess it's supposed to draw big heat since <span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Abyss</span> isn't a typical X guy, and Eric isn't a wrestler. Thing is, this has all been done before, and it doesn't seem like it's being executed any better than the last 1000 times. It's like these guys just stick to the WWE playbook as far as booking and storylines go. Next we'll have Mike Tenay turn heel and being involved in a storyline against Taz.

[TLLK]

Gah, these spoilers that I keep reading just flat-out confuse me. I mean, who would even LIKE this stuff?

[Eisen-verse]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TheLeviticalLawKid3" data-cite="TheLeviticalLawKid3" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Gah, these spoilers that I keep reading just flat-out confuse me. I mean, who would even LIKE this stuff?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> I think, if it's done in a spiteful way (<span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Bischoff </span>attempting to 'raise hell' by being annoyed with talent & the network) then I guess I understand the moves. If not, if it's just done without such a focus then I'm afraid it will feel really weird; phony even. I don't mind non-wrestlers winning matches... IF... There is a story attached and it's made to, eventually, put over that babyface that he pinned. I mean, I can always go for a good 'McMahon vs. Austin' vibe.</p><p> </p><p> <span style="color:#FFFFFF;">As for Abyss winning the X-Division gold... </span>Again I think it's suitable for such a storyline IF it's used in which to strengthen the X-Division as a whole. Now, initially it looks like a terrible decision; however, it COULD shed light on the fliers as they stand up for what it is that they love. In the end, we could have one, if not more, standout people coming forward as the 'faces' of the division by gaining the title back!</p>

[GruntMark]

<blockquote data-ipsquote="" class="ipsQuote" data-ipsquote-username="TheLeviticalLawKid3" data-cite="TheLeviticalLawKid3" data-ipsquote-contentapp="forums" data-ipsquote-contenttype="forums" data-ipsquote-contentid="25170" data-ipsquote-contentclass="forums_Topic"><div>Gah, these spoilers that I keep reading just flat-out confuse me. I mean, who would even LIKE this stuff?</div></blockquote><p> </p><p> ...People who enjoyed WCW in 2000? <img alt=":eek:" data-src="//content.invisioncic.com/g322608/emoticons/eek.png.0e09df00fa222c85760b9bc1700b5405.png" src="<___base_url___>/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png" /></p>

[Russo]

I like the new look.

[Zeel1]

<p>"I'm sure the internet is burning over this!" Ha ha ha.</p><p> </p><p>

Also, Abyss out-smarting someone feels wrong, somehow...</p>