brashleyholland Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 So Reem says it was due to an anti-inflammatory drug he didn't know contained testosterone. Wonder if it'll fly. There is one very, very simple response to that statement if you A) work for the UFC, B) are on the next AC panel that licences Overeem or C) are the next journalist that interviews him. Could you show me the prescription for the anti-inflammatory drug your were prescribed? Problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 What kind of anti-inflammatory drug raises your testosterone again? Shoot, if people get can big as Overeem using Tylenol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 What kind of anti-inflammatory drug raises your testosterone again? Shoot, if people get can big as Overeem using Tylenol... Cortisone would be the one that most people are probably familiar with. Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs like Ibuprofen and Diclofenac don't cut the mustards for athletes. They need something more potent, and Cortisone shots fit the ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantabulous Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 So Reem says it was due to an anti-inflammatory drug he didn't know contained testosterone. Wonder if it'll fly. Which would be his third story for why he flunked the test. I know why almost nobody who flunks a test comes out and admits they knowingly took steroids or whatever, but why do they all seem to come up with the most preposterous bullshit and expect people to believe it and/or not realize how stupid it makes them look for trying it in the first place? It wouldn't to take much to expose this as yet another line of crap, but the sad part is I don't expect anyone involved to ask the necessary question and instead they'll play along, wag their fingers and refuse to license him for a year and act like they're being tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoutureLegend Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 There is one very, very simple response to that statement if you A) work for the UFC, B) are on the next AC panel that licences Overeem or C) are the next journalist that interviews him. Could you show me the prescription for the anti-inflammatory drug your were prescribed? Problem solved. Even if he was to show that prescription, he should, & would still be handed a suspension. King Mo i believe proved that his positive test was down to a supplement he took that contained a banned substance that he did not know about... The commission just don't care about these excuses. Fighters should know better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 Which would be his third story for why he flunked the test. I know why almost nobody who flunks a test comes out and admits they knowingly took steroids or whatever, but why do they all seem to come up with the most preposterous bullshit and expect people to believe it and/or not realize how stupid it makes them look for trying it in the first place? It wouldn't to take much to expose this as yet another line of crap, but the sad part is I don't expect anyone involved to ask the necessary question and instead they'll play along, wag their fingers and refuse to license him for a year and act like they're being tough. In this case the excuse isn't that preposterous at all. Cortisone (or similar) injections are really common. My mum is 58 and still rides horses; she gets them in her hip. I used to get them in my knee and right hand when I was actively training, and I'll have to have them when I start to go up a gear again (hoping to fight before the year is out). To me what's naughty about this is him saying that he didn't know. Say you took it out of competition when you weren't licensed. Get a doctor to send the prescription to the AC. Job done, you've not broken any rules and they can't touch you. (Assuming that's the truth, of course. If not, lie and pay a naughty doc to falsify a script for you). If this was some meathead moron (which Overeem isn't, he's a really smart, intelligent dude) I could understand it. But knowing the amount of work that guy does on his body, there's no way I'm buying that he didn't know what was in the shots he was given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damonster Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 BFC fighter Raphael Davis arrested on fraud charges, that's never good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 BFC fighter Raphael Davis arrested on fraud charges, that's never good. I wonder if it's as bad that Bellator fighter claiming workers' compenstation while fighting LIVE on TV. He was charged with insurance fraud, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I wonder if it's as bad that Bellator fighter claiming workers' compenstation while fighting LIVE on TV. He was charged with insurance fraud, of course. I think that is the same guy he is talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Looks like you're right. Yeah, what was this guy thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damonster Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I think that is the same guy he is talking about Yeah it is. He is facing fraud charges for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makhai Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 BFC fighter Raphael Davis arrested on fraud charges, that's never good. Chael Sonnen laundered 250 large through his reality firm, is fighting for the title. Mike Whitehead pulled the old "yeah you can sleep in my bed... " trick in his marijuana grow house and then resisted arrest. He just got comped tickets by the UFC to 145... Somehow I think he'll be fine. MMA, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I think, anymore, athletes, celebrities, etc. have such egos that they think they can get away with just about anything, even if the do it in broad daylight, or national television for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Chael Sonnen laundered 250 large through his reality firm, is fighting for the title. Mike Whitehead pulled the old "yeah you can sleep in my bed... " trick in his marijuana grow house and then resisted arrest. He just got comped tickets by the UFC to 145... Somehow I think he'll be fine. MMA, man. This is different. This offense is more offensive, because he technically not only lied to the government, he might have also lied to Bellator as well. If he as on worker's compensation, no way he should be fighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shape Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 So Silva/Sonnen 2 is happening at 148. Kinda wanted to see the mayhem in Rio tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brashleyholland Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 Don't even know what so say after sitting on the conference call for that entire hearing. I think I'll stop pretending that MMA is a real sport for a while. What a farce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantabulous Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 It's a complete joke. I'd like to think this could spur the UFC to take a more aggressive approach to drug testing now. Then again, I'd like to think central defenders have the common sense not to knee opposing players in the back in a CL semi-final. Total bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makhai Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Hector Lombard officially a member of the UFC. Get Hype! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansLanda11 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 So Silva/Sonnen 2 is happening at 148. Kinda wanted to see the mayhem in Rio tbh. I love when they go to Brazil because I like the loud and rowdy crowds so I'm very dissapointed about this fight being in Vegas but heck, atleast we still get to see it. Maybe when Sonnen dominates Anderson for 5 rounds and wins the belt, we can see Silva/Sonnen III in Brazil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ampulator Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Don't even know what so say after sitting on the conference call for that entire hearing. I think I'll stop pretending that MMA is a real sport for a while. What a farce While I haven't settled my own feelings yet on this matter, what are yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makhai Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Don't even know what so say after sitting on the conference call for that entire hearing. I think I'll stop pretending that MMA is a real sport for a while. What a farce After watching the Overeem hearing unfold on twitter: I don't know if I'm most upset by, Tra Telligman recommended "Dr. Molina", the NSAC for all but asking "Mr. Overeem" for his autograph during sentencing, or the fact athletes still think "the dog ate my homework" excuse that is "I didn't know what I was taking" is going to fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKenwyne Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 So I was wandering the wastes of Wikipedia one dull afternoon and ended up surfing my way through recent UFC events. I headed over to 146, and lo-and-behold, what faced me but a deletion notice? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_146 See also this page for some of the 'points' suggesting why UFC pages should be deleted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:UFC_145 A bit of research reveals we have a couple of wiki-zealots trying to remove or downgrade a lot of the MMA information on the site. If anyone has any pull over there (I don't) and wants to make their voice heard and can do so without feeding the trolls within that beaurocratic nightmare, please do. Unite, my MMA-loving brothers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makhai Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 According to Liverkick writer Rian Scalia it's one high-ranking reality show wikian named MTKing who deleted almost every K-1 event from wikipedia on the same grounds; that MMA and K-1 events fall under the same guidelines as single NFL, MLB, or MLS games do. Thus aren't "notable enough to be encyclopedic" It's bullshit. But, According to Wikipedia's ToD you can kiss it all goodbye very soon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:UFC_145 Here's the talk thread btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damonster Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I have made the argument and won on many pages that, of you were to delete one you would have to delete all, including UFC 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtplaystew Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Don't even know what so say after sitting on the conference call for that entire hearing. I think I'll stop pretending that MMA is a real sport for a while. What a farce I'm not 100% sure of what went on witht he conference call that was so upsetting, but if MMA is trying to minimize a PED abuser, it would sound like any real sport to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.